First of all, No, you do NOT have to register, pay or sign any document to get your SB Live to work under Linux.
Secondly, I am well aware of the fact that the Jukebox is NOT the SB Live, but they are both produced by the same company, and the support they give to one mature device reflects on how they might support other devices as they get mature.
I was debating between a NJB and a PJB. You know what won me over to the NJB?
$375 versus $600.
I don't know about geek-friendly (I'm sure it will be more geek-friendly as time goes by), but it certainly is more wallet-friendly. Besides, Creative does support Linux (look at the SB Live,) it just takes them awhile. And with the upgradable firmwire, I'm sure problems will be solved as quickly as they are spotted.
The point the article was making is that Eazel is a "revolutionary" GUI. We all know KDE and Gnome, while they are "world-class" GUIS, are basically trying there hardest to replicate the Windows 9x look&feel.
Dude, you're an idiot (or is it 1d10+ ?) The DC can copy games and it's easier because there is no mod chip needed to play them. Do some research before you post, eh?
Oh my..
Forty years of darkness! Rivers and seas boiling! The dead rising from the grave! Dogs and cats living together... Sega and Nintendo merging... mass hysteria
Who would have ever thought that day would happen? It's like Oracle merging with MS!
Guys, you can't make a bootable windows game cd simply because if the CD contains some components of windows (such as the abstraction layer, api and media runtimes, etc) then you'd have to BUY a license for that OS since it is essentially bundled with the cd.
So, shipping games with Windows already included is a bad idea... MS will make EVEN more money, and games would cost more.
And sadly enough, a linux boot game cd is pointless. Most gamers out there run windows, they'd like to put in a cd and autoplay the game. They don't want to reboot. And honestly, the gaming companies don't see linux as a major market, so why make bootable linux cds when you can just make games that work on Windows?
..that when Microsoft donates a bunch of money and a ton of resources to an institution, we all lambaste the university for selling out and becoming a "Microsoft"-Institution.
When Redhat does the same, we praise it and start sending our applications to it.
A smell of whiff of hypocrisy amongst the slashdot posters... oh wait, what should I expect?
How about an OS-agnostic institution? Now *THAT* I would prasie.
32meg's of ram (upgradable with compactflash)
133mhz processor
65,536 colors
Headphone Jack/speakers
Wireless Connectivity possible with compactflash
Built in IE
Transcriber, regular handwriting recg.. very good too
Sounds like your perfect PDA is out already. Unfortunately, it's MS, and people just hate MS. And Palm is using their market monopoly to maintain control with an inferior product.
Quite a role reversal for MS... they have the better product but a monopoly is shutting them out.
The Dreamcast currently runs WinCE (as it's proudly mentioned on the machine) and I've never had a crash once with my DC... in fact, a the concept of a crashing dreamcast or console in general just makes giddy.
Crashes happen because of hardware configurations that the developer of the OS wasn't prepared for.
1) I bet it's not just off-the-shelf Win2k.
2) I bet the components aren't off-the-shelf parts.
3) I bet MS knows EXACTLY what is going into this machine.
Hence, I think we won't have any OS issues. Most likely, the OS will be completely invisible (ala Dreamcast.)
Of course, that still won't stop all the microsoft-bigots from attack anything with the words Windows in it.
-Nick
I'm a CS major, and I own a Powerbook G3. But seriously, do you really really want to program in the Mac OS? Really Really? I do have Codewarrior and I've done it... but, hey... I don't recommend it. With OS X, that might be a different story, but good luck if something you compiled crashes in Mac OS 9 and less... BOOM goes the system.
And LinuxPPC, YellowdogLinux and SuseLinuxPPC... how many have actually tried these? I have, and they are NOWHERE near on par with their wintel counterparts... sure, Linux is a crossplatform OS, but the driver development just isn't there for the Mac. Now before you scream at me, JUST RECOMPILE IDIOT, find me a way to mount HFS+ volumes in Linux... you can't yet. Hell, developers had a bitch of a time getting USB to work under Linux and it only really happened when USB caught on in the PC world.
If you program on a Mac as a CS major, woe is you. Maybe in the 100 level classes (my college uses Macs on them) but once you hit 300 level classes, the only thing you'd use your Mac for is Telnet.
That's why I have two computers. The Powerbook (which is a GREAT laptop, and a GREAT design tool for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Indesign, Quark, and other GRAPHICAL design programs) and a rocking Athlon for FreeBSD and Win2k for everything else.
Don't kid yourself. Macs are great for design and they look damn cool (that's why all these TV shows use powerbooks/ibooks for probs and not Thinkpads) but for power and programming... the PC is the place to be.
Of course, now that NVidia is doing the video cards for the new macs and Apple is talking to other chip makers (transmeta) for a new source of processors... things might change... hmm....
Ok, I don't like bad Microsoft products like Win98, MS' SQL server, IIS, etc... but if you guys want a great color gameboy emulator get a Cassiopeia E-115 PocketPC. It runs color gameboy games well, has a directional keypad on the pda and unlike wince 2.11, it actually works... REAL WELL! I can telnet from it, I can get compactflash ethernet cards, I have a 128megs of compactflash for my mp3s, i can voice record meetings, I can play movie files, and I can do everything the palm can do (as fast as the palm can do it now with ce3.0) I hate to say it, but MS is losing this battle with a better product just because of marketshare/marketing... talk about bizzaro-world.
The article admits numerous times to NEVER having seen a PocketPC device and quotes Palm heavily. If we've seen a pro-Microsoft article in this fashion it'd be screamed at for FUD.
It's just not fashionable to point out FUD that's not written for MS.
Once again... Microsoft bigotry on a slashdot forum... what a surprise! First of all, I've owned both, a PALM IIIx, and a Cassiopeia E-105. I love my E-105 and never use my IIIx any longer. I can't believe this post was moderated up to three already...
>>> Full Email: They list "No" for the Palm. Multimail Pro provides it, so I consider that a Yes if I ever wanted to do email on a palm sized computer. Of course we're talking Pocket Outlook Express here. Considering the Deja poll on email clients has OE in the middle of the pack with the only two clients I recommend (PMMail and The Bat! topping the list chances are I'd look for third party email even if I were going to.
Multimail Pro? Is this a Palm V thing? Or is this an addon? I thought we weren't comparing add-ons... If this is an addon, it's rather unfair to consider add-ons for the Palm but not for the PocketPC device.
>>>> Web-Browsing: Well, considering the resolution (320x240) there aren't many sites that will come across looking decent in the first place. On a palm sized computer I prefer only snippits and text. IE, content instead of fluff. This is doubly true when you consider the bandwidth restrictions of wireless communications.
Ok, Let's take this once piece at a time. Guess what, there are websites around that are made for these devices and most of them have more content then fluff. However, if I need to color coded heating diagram of a house, guess which device screws me over? Who are you to determine what's content and what's fluff? I have a friend who does security installations... blueprints of homes are not fluff even though their images. If you consider it fluff, don't download it... at least with the PocketPC device you HAVE that option.
>>>>> AvantGo: Was a pig on the Palm, most likely a pig on MS's stuff and, IMHO, not worth a damn. I get more use out of iSiloFree and their web convertor for a fraction of AvantGo's space.
Why are we comparing an addon? I take it's MS's fault that AvantGo is bloated, right?
>>>>> Color: Hope the sun isn't out, right?:)
Wow, we really have to do our research don't we? The new PocketPC devices have light sensors that detect ambient light accordingly. Can your Palm IIIc do that?
>>>>> Memory: 16-32Mb given. This is MS, something tells me 24Mb of it would be needed just to store everything they want to shoehorn in there leaving 8Mb, what the Palm offers.:)
Becuase the Palm offers a multimedia, multitasking OS, correct? And frankly, the PocketPC OS is on ROM so guess what... come on.. guess... That's right, it TAKES NO MEMORY! Once again you are making claims without any substance. Have you ever touched one of these devices? Naturally slashdot will moderate you up, since your claims are anti-MS.
>>>>> Speed: Up to 206Mhz compared to the Palm's 20Mhz. Of course, all the MS applications aren't coded as tight as Palm applications so they feel like it is 20Mhz. Honestly, I have a Palm IIIe that I have used Afterburner II to slow-down to save on battery life. I normally run at 13Mhz compared to the normal 16Mhz and it is fine. Most of the time the machine is idling anyway. Isn't like we've got RC5 going in the background.
What a geek you are, not wanting to run RC5 in the background?:) Secondly, I guess my old 8088 running WordStar is just fine for all my work. Right? Of course, you need 200mhz when you are doing as much as these PocketPC devices... try decoding an MPEG on a 13mhz machine... oh wait, you don't even have color, or a speaker, or the storage... damn, you're out of luck. Plus, let's look at prices.. A 13mhz Palm IIIe costs $200, a 200mhz PocketPC costs $500. Would you make this same argument if they were actual PCs? You might say, but it's a PDA. But, seriously... why limit yourself? oh, I know... becuase it's Microsoft.
>>>>> Expansion Slot: Welll, ok, they got it there, maybe.
Maybe? It's got CompactFlash! The only addon's for Palms are proprietery. I can go anywhere and buy TONS of CF stuff.
>>>>> Sync: "Always ready to go with ActiveSync!" Like, ActiveX? ActiveDesktop? Uhm, I dunno about you but me, I'm fine with pushing a single button.
Wow, once again, something you have apparently NEVER TRIED!!!! ActiveSync is a great piece of software that not only allows you to sync up your stuff (just like the palm) but you can also search your device as if it's another drive... How can you tell me that you DON'T WANT THAT FEATURE? If you don't, at least you can ignore it. It's not an option on the palm.
>>>> USB connection: Aaand? USB may be nice but I've not really worried over a sync before.
That's becuase your palm doesn't have the ability to play Mpeg files and mp3 files which are pretty large. Oh wait, I guess that's the bloat you were referring to!
>>>>> IrDA: No comment
Same thing on both. I guess the Palm does tie on something.
>>>> Handwriting Recognition: OK, everyone who can't read their own handwriting please raise their hands. Grey raises his hand. I like Graffiti because it is easy. Microsoft really is going for the lazy people here. "No more buttons to press, don't have to learn an input system that 90% resembles what you write anyway!"
Um... no. Once again it's an option that can actually be removed from the system. If you want Graffiti, you can have it. It just won't take up that screen real-estate when it's gone.. Pretty nice don't you think? Can your silk-screen disappear like that?
>>>>> Voice Recording: Why? With 32Mb you can barely cram anything into that of any value. Besides, there are add-ons for the Palm that allow this.
With one line you say it's not needed, with the next you say you can get it. Why bother stating it? Plus, we're talking out of box. In addition, voice recordings don't have to be CD-Quality, and low quality (but understandable recordings) are rather small. I fit an entire lecture class of 90 minutes on my Cassiopeia before upgrading it's ram (which is cheap since CF is standard) and still had TONS of room free.
>>>>> On-Board Financial Software: Wow, Money for PocketPC included. Works with Microsoft Money 2000. I use Quicken 2000 and PocketQuicken on my Palm. Wow, imagine that. I guess we both have it. Cool, but guess which one is more feature rich?
>>>>> Mapping Software: "Clarity of maps confined to low resolution screens." 160x160 compared to 320x240. Both of those, to me, are low resolution. Besides, those same low resolution screens work fine on specialized GPS devices for years now. I don't need the extra space for an effing animated streetsign (2nd cousin to the paperclip) to tell me to turn left now. One back-seat driver will be quite enough, thank you. Needless to say there are several applications for the Palm that provide this as well as several GPS modules for the Palm.
Right, apparently you've never used this either. The map is obviously going to be easier to read in 16bit color.
>>>>>> Play MP3s: "No need to carry an additional MP3 player". Pocket PC, 32Mb. Rio, IIRC, 96Mb. There is a reason why I don't want my Palm to do MP3s, the specialized device does it better.
Does it? I can't skin my Rio (which I also own.) My Rio can't play WMAs, MOVs and WAVs. My Rio can't be upgraded to newer versions. Aside from that, I really would rather carry one PocketPC device over 10 little devices. Everyone argues how bulky the PPC is... but you know what's bulkier? A book, a voice recorder, an mp3 player and a PDA. This has everything in one package.
>>>>>>> Text reader: iSilo, Peanut Press, DOC format (dozens of readers there) TealDOC, etc, etc, etc
Right, and they're out for the PPC as well. You're penalizing MS for a bundled piece of software?
>>>>>> Animated Games: The whole reason I started writing this. First off, I hate the corpspeak "experience". "A wonderful web experience!" "A great gaming experience!" "That new Star Trek show furthers the TV experience!" Get over it, it isn't an experience, it is a game. Furthermore, I guess Zap 2000! doesn't count as an animated game. What comes standard with the Palm PC that is awesome? Solitaire and Minesweeper? Definintely have to look add-on here in both cases.
I guess you do... but then again, the Palm's games aren't too stellar either... add-on or packaged. At least I can get Doom (which runs at 24fps and only takes up 5megs) for my CE device... or a color gameboy emulator. Can your palm play color gameboy games?
Sure you might not waht to play color gameboy games... but then you don't have to install that feature. Once again, with the PPC it's an option.
I love my WinCE device and can't wait to upgrade to the PPC devices. And no, I'm not a Microsoft lover... I'm running FreeBSD over here and even own a Mac (running LinuxPPC) Before you jump on me, yes the WinCE device CAN sync to Linux PCs.
Don't flame MS because it's "cool" and they're evil. They actually did good with this device, and I think Palm should really have to worry. Especially if the IIIc is all they can come up with.
FOr those of you that don't know, "Firewire" is the same as "Sony i.Link" and 1394 ports. Sony just calls it that to prevent mindshare from Firewire.
Firewire is not "Sony i.Link." Firewire also provides a line of power to the devices connected, whereas products plugged into Sony's i.Link do not. A subtle difference, but one that could make a difference when buying a firewire drive WITHOUT an AC Adapter.
In light of all the linux and Internet companies being worth billions for producing no revenue... we have:
LINUX.COM announces IPO
(December 21,1999) NEW YORK -- Linux.com, the definitive linux commercial, e-commerce, e-world, e-desktop, internet/intranet open-source based solutions in the western half of New York state, has filed with the SEC for an inital public offering. Pending approval of the SEC, which is inevitable since linux.com follows all internet stock trends of having no revenue, no content, no business model, and no paradigm, linux.com will start trading under the stock ticker LINC on the Nasdaq.
Investors are anxiously awaiting to jump in on this IPO which is expected to shatter VA Linux Systems record setting 700% increase in one day. "It's got Linux, and it's a dot-com! What more can you want!?" asked an unnamed Goldman Sachs employee. "Who cares about what they do? I'll just ride the wave and then jump off at 315 1/2!"
Sitting in his two room apartment in Eastern Syracuse NY, Ned Flounder, CEO, CTO and "Big Boss of the Company" highlights what Linux.com is all about. "It's about bringing a new operating system to the masses. It's about Microsoft sucking! It's about the Internet. It's about connecting these operating systems together in a world of global internet intranet mass PAN connectivity! It's about open source, and it's about closed source! It's about the global economy and e-commerce and amazon.com! It's about computers, and calculators! About the end of the millennium, with two N's, and the ball drop at Times Square... it's about positioning ---", at this point, Ned's ramble became incoherent. When WSJ reporter, I. M. Bile, asked about pecific business plans and company missions, he was told he had to leave since the plumber was coming to fix the toilet.
Already, news is a buzz across the Linux community which is featured in such sites as Slashdot.org. "Hey! We already have a website called Linux.com! This is BULLS**T PATENT INFRINGEMENT! FREE THE CODE!", exclaims one Slashdot user. "FIRST POST!!!!", screams another. All, in all, the Slashdot community eagerly awaits a faithed letter, that will allow them to access this IPO if they deposit $10,000 into an E-Trade account and pass a multiple choice exam. Slashdot users, as well as wall street, wait with baited breath for the Linux.com IPO.
Ever noticed how pompous people in the computer industry get? I doubt I'd ever see a doctor consider his patients "stupid" for inquirying about a treatment and demanding a description in laymen's English (ie "Your leg is broken" instead of "Your laterial tibia has a fracture.")
How come the computer industry is always full of these people that demand their consumers know the in's and out's of wiring a network, downloading BIOS patches, and configuring device drivers? It's something that the computer industry needs to get over eventually.
Of course, there are still power users who demand complete control over their system (I, for one, am one of them) however, we have to remember the average consumer can't tell the difference between Ethernet and Token Ring. The average user may be an international editor for Newsweek, but may not know what a "jack" is. What's wrong with that? Should he condemn you for not knowing the first thing to producing a weekly magazine? Every person has something they are knowledgable about. To condemn someone for not being techie is ridiculous.
Let's all get off our high horses. Once we do that, and only when we do that will Linux and our community as a whole affect the entire world.
Guys, look at the photos. According to the photos, the hard drives, floppy drives and the power supply are all kept outside of the case safe from the oil... only the motherboard is submerged.
Actually, Quicktime 4 uses the Sorence (SP?) codec which unfortunately isn't supported by Xanim. I gotta admit though, that codec kicks serious ass. Not only is it 44.1khz stereo, but it also has amazing image quality. The trailer was 640x480, hiquality, stereo 44.1khz sound and only about 10 megs. I wish we'd get access to the codec for xanim!
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First of all, No, you do NOT have to register, pay or sign any document to get your SB Live to work under Linux.
Secondly, I am well aware of the fact that the Jukebox is NOT the SB Live, but they are both produced by the same company, and the support they give to one mature device reflects on how they might support other devices as they get mature.
I was debating between a NJB and a PJB. You know what won me over to the NJB?
$375 versus $600.
I don't know about geek-friendly (I'm sure it will be more geek-friendly as time goes by), but it certainly is more wallet-friendly. Besides, Creative does support Linux (look at the SB Live,) it just takes them awhile. And with the upgradable firmwire, I'm sure problems will be solved as quickly as they are spotted.
The point the article was making is that Eazel is a "revolutionary" GUI. We all know KDE and Gnome, while they are "world-class" GUIS, are basically trying there hardest to replicate the Windows 9x look&feel.
Dude, you're an idiot (or is it 1d10+ ?) The DC can copy games and it's easier because there is no mod chip needed to play them. Do some research before you post, eh?
Oh my..
Forty years of darkness! Rivers and seas boiling! The dead rising from the grave! Dogs and cats living together... Sega and Nintendo merging... mass hysteria
Who would have ever thought that day would happen? It's like Oracle merging with MS!
Guys, you can't make a bootable windows game cd simply because if the CD contains some components of windows (such as the abstraction layer, api and media runtimes, etc) then you'd have to BUY a license for that OS since it is essentially bundled with the cd.
So, shipping games with Windows already included is a bad idea... MS will make EVEN more money, and games would cost more.
And sadly enough, a linux boot game cd is pointless. Most gamers out there run windows, they'd like to put in a cd and autoplay the game. They don't want to reboot. And honestly, the gaming companies don't see linux as a major market, so why make bootable linux cds when you can just make games that work on Windows?
..that when Microsoft donates a bunch of money and a ton of resources to an institution, we all lambaste the university for selling out and becoming a "Microsoft"-Institution.
When Redhat does the same, we praise it and start sending our applications to it.
A smell of whiff of hypocrisy amongst the slashdot posters... oh wait, what should I expect?
How about an OS-agnostic institution? Now *THAT* I would prasie.
If you leave your mouse over any particular image, their alt tag would pop up and tell you exactly what that image is depicting
Cassiopeia's stats:
32meg's of ram (upgradable with compactflash)
133mhz processor
65,536 colors
Headphone Jack/speakers
Wireless Connectivity possible with compactflash
Built in IE
Transcriber, regular handwriting recg.. very good too
Sounds like your perfect PDA is out already. Unfortunately, it's MS, and people just hate MS. And Palm is using their market monopoly to maintain control with an inferior product.
Quite a role reversal for MS... they have the better product but a monopoly is shutting them out.
This thread is going to devolve into this, or at least some messages will... so here goes. What are the geekiest colleges out there?
I know CMU, MIT and Caltech are pretty high up. My college, Cornell University, seems to have a pretty high geek ratio too. Any other geeky schools?
-Nick
The Dreamcast currently runs WinCE (as it's proudly mentioned on the machine) and I've never had a crash once with my DC... in fact, a the concept of a crashing dreamcast or console in general just makes giddy. Crashes happen because of hardware configurations that the developer of the OS wasn't prepared for. 1) I bet it's not just off-the-shelf Win2k. 2) I bet the components aren't off-the-shelf parts. 3) I bet MS knows EXACTLY what is going into this machine. Hence, I think we won't have any OS issues. Most likely, the OS will be completely invisible (ala Dreamcast.) Of course, that still won't stop all the microsoft-bigots from attack anything with the words Windows in it. -Nick
I'm a CS major, and I own a Powerbook G3. But seriously, do you really really want to program in the Mac OS? Really Really? I do have Codewarrior and I've done it... but, hey... I don't recommend it. With OS X, that might be a different story, but good luck if something you compiled crashes in Mac OS 9 and less... BOOM goes the system.
...
And LinuxPPC, YellowdogLinux and SuseLinuxPPC... how many have actually tried these? I have, and they are NOWHERE near on par with their wintel counterparts... sure, Linux is a crossplatform OS, but the driver development just isn't there for the Mac. Now before you scream at me, JUST RECOMPILE IDIOT, find me a way to mount HFS+ volumes in Linux... you can't yet. Hell, developers had a bitch of a time getting USB to work under Linux and it only really happened when USB caught on in the PC world.
If you program on a Mac as a CS major, woe is you. Maybe in the 100 level classes (my college uses Macs on them) but once you hit 300 level classes, the only thing you'd use your Mac for is Telnet.
That's why I have two computers. The Powerbook (which is a GREAT laptop, and a GREAT design tool for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Indesign, Quark, and other GRAPHICAL design programs) and a rocking Athlon for FreeBSD and Win2k for everything else.
Don't kid yourself. Macs are great for design and they look damn cool (that's why all these TV shows use powerbooks/ibooks for probs and not Thinkpads) but for power and programming... the PC is the place to be.
Of course, now that NVidia is doing the video cards for the new macs and Apple is talking to other chip makers (transmeta) for a new source of processors... things might change... hmm.
Nick
But it doesn't roll!!!
:)
(Ok, so that was an anal nitpick
Um... no, the "geeks" got free NEW mice.. the NEW optical ones.. not the puck one.
Ok, I don't like bad Microsoft products like Win98, MS' SQL server, IIS, etc... but if you guys want a great color gameboy emulator get a Cassiopeia E-115 PocketPC. It runs color gameboy games well, has a directional keypad on the pda and unlike wince 2.11, it actually works... REAL WELL! I can telnet from it, I can get compactflash ethernet cards, I have a 128megs of compactflash for my mp3s, i can voice record meetings, I can play movie files, and I can do everything the palm can do (as fast as the palm can do it now with ce3.0) I hate to say it, but MS is losing this battle with a better product just because of marketshare/marketing... talk about bizzaro-world.
I was there during the keynote, and then I went to the exhibit floor. AT LEAST 10,000 people where on the floor, maybe even more.
The article admits numerous times to NEVER having seen a PocketPC device and quotes Palm heavily. If we've seen a pro-Microsoft article in this fashion it'd be screamed at for FUD.
It's just not fashionable to point out FUD that's not written for MS.
Once again... Microsoft bigotry on a slashdot forum... what a surprise! First of all, I've owned both, a PALM IIIx, and a Cassiopeia E-105. I love my E-105 and never use my IIIx any longer. I can't believe this post was moderated up to three already...
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:) Secondly, I guess my old 8088 running WordStar is just fine for all my work. Right? Of course, you need 200mhz when you are doing as much as these PocketPC devices... try decoding an MPEG on a 13mhz machine... oh wait, you don't even have color, or a speaker, or the storage... damn, you're out of luck. Plus, let's look at prices.. A 13mhz Palm IIIe costs $200, a 200mhz PocketPC costs $500. Would you make this same argument if they were actual PCs? You might say, but it's a PDA. But, seriously... why limit yourself? oh, I know... becuase it's Microsoft.
>>> Full Email: They list "No" for the Palm. Multimail Pro provides it, so I consider that a Yes if I ever wanted to do email on a palm sized computer. Of course we're talking Pocket Outlook Express here. Considering the Deja poll on email clients has OE in the middle of the pack with the only two clients I recommend (PMMail and The Bat! topping the list chances are I'd look for third party email even if I were going to.
Multimail Pro? Is this a Palm V thing? Or is this an addon? I thought we weren't comparing add-ons... If this is an addon, it's rather unfair to consider add-ons for the Palm but not for the PocketPC device.
>>>> Web-Browsing: Well, considering the resolution (320x240) there aren't many sites that will come across looking decent in the first place. On a palm sized computer I prefer only snippits and text. IE, content instead of fluff. This is doubly true when you consider the bandwidth restrictions of wireless communications.
Ok, Let's take this once piece at a time. Guess what, there are websites around that are made for these devices and most of them have more content then fluff. However, if I need to color coded heating diagram of a house, guess which device screws me over? Who are you to determine what's content and what's fluff? I have a friend who does security installations... blueprints of homes are not fluff even though their images. If you consider it fluff, don't download it... at least with the PocketPC device you HAVE that option.
>>>>> AvantGo: Was a pig on the Palm, most likely a pig on MS's stuff and, IMHO, not worth a damn. I get more use out of iSiloFree and their web convertor for a fraction of AvantGo's space.
Why are we comparing an addon? I take it's MS's fault that AvantGo is bloated, right?
>>>>> Color: Hope the sun isn't out, right?
Wow, we really have to do our research don't we? The new PocketPC devices have light sensors that detect ambient light accordingly. Can your Palm IIIc do that?
>>>>> Memory: 16-32Mb given. This is MS, something tells me 24Mb of it would be needed just to store everything they want to shoehorn in there leaving 8Mb, what the Palm offers.
Becuase the Palm offers a multimedia, multitasking OS, correct? And frankly, the PocketPC OS is on ROM so guess what... come on.. guess... That's right, it TAKES NO MEMORY! Once again you are making claims without any substance. Have you ever touched one of these devices? Naturally slashdot will moderate you up, since your claims are anti-MS.
>>>>> Speed: Up to 206Mhz compared to the Palm's 20Mhz. Of course, all the MS applications aren't coded as tight as Palm applications so they feel like it is 20Mhz. Honestly, I have a Palm IIIe that I have used Afterburner II to slow-down to save on battery life. I normally run at 13Mhz compared to the normal 16Mhz and it is fine. Most of the time the machine is idling anyway. Isn't like we've got RC5 going in the background.
What a geek you are, not wanting to run RC5 in the background?
>>>>> Expansion Slot: Welll, ok, they got it there, maybe.
Maybe? It's got CompactFlash! The only addon's for Palms are proprietery. I can go anywhere and buy TONS of CF stuff.
>>>>> Sync: "Always ready to go with ActiveSync!" Like, ActiveX? ActiveDesktop? Uhm, I dunno about you but me, I'm fine with pushing a single button.
Wow, once again, something you have apparently NEVER TRIED!!!! ActiveSync is a great piece of software that not only allows you to sync up your stuff (just like the palm) but you can also search your device as if it's another drive... How can you tell me that you DON'T WANT THAT FEATURE? If you don't, at least you can ignore it. It's not an option on the palm.
>>>> USB connection: Aaand? USB may be nice but I've not really worried over a sync before.
That's becuase your palm doesn't have the ability to play Mpeg files and mp3 files which are pretty large. Oh wait, I guess that's the bloat you were referring to!
>>>>> IrDA: No comment
Same thing on both. I guess the Palm does tie on something.
>>>> Handwriting Recognition: OK, everyone who can't read their own handwriting please raise their hands. Grey raises his hand. I like Graffiti because it is easy. Microsoft really is going for the lazy people here. "No more buttons to press, don't have to learn an input system that 90% resembles what you write anyway!"
Um... no. Once again it's an option that can actually be removed from the system. If you want Graffiti, you can have it. It just won't take up that screen real-estate when it's gone.. Pretty nice don't you think? Can your silk-screen disappear like that?
>>>>> Voice Recording: Why? With 32Mb you can barely cram anything into that of any value. Besides, there are add-ons for the Palm that allow this.
With one line you say it's not needed, with the next you say you can get it. Why bother stating it? Plus, we're talking out of box. In addition, voice recordings don't have to be CD-Quality, and low quality (but understandable recordings) are rather small. I fit an entire lecture class of 90 minutes on my Cassiopeia before upgrading it's ram (which is cheap since CF is standard) and still had TONS of room free.
>>>>> On-Board Financial Software: Wow, Money for PocketPC included. Works with Microsoft Money 2000. I use Quicken 2000 and PocketQuicken on my Palm. Wow, imagine that.
I guess we both have it. Cool, but guess which one is more feature rich?
>>>>> Mapping Software: "Clarity of maps confined to low resolution screens." 160x160 compared to 320x240. Both of those, to me, are low resolution. Besides, those same low resolution screens work fine on specialized GPS devices for years now. I don't need the extra space for an effing animated streetsign (2nd cousin to the paperclip) to tell me to turn left now. One back-seat driver will be quite enough, thank you. Needless to say there are several applications for the Palm that provide this as well as several GPS modules for the Palm.
Right, apparently you've never used this either. The map is obviously going to be easier to read in 16bit color.
>>>>>> Play MP3s: "No need to carry an additional MP3 player". Pocket PC, 32Mb. Rio, IIRC, 96Mb. There is a reason why I don't want my Palm to do MP3s, the specialized device does it better.
Does it? I can't skin my Rio (which I also own.) My Rio can't play WMAs, MOVs and WAVs. My Rio can't be upgraded to newer versions. Aside from that, I really would rather carry one PocketPC device over 10 little devices. Everyone argues how bulky the PPC is... but you know what's bulkier? A book, a voice recorder, an mp3 player and a PDA. This has everything in one package.
>>>>>>> Text reader: iSilo, Peanut Press, DOC format (dozens of readers there) TealDOC, etc, etc, etc
Right, and they're out for the PPC as well. You're penalizing MS for a bundled piece of software?
>>>>>> Animated Games: The whole reason I started writing this. First off, I hate the corpspeak "experience". "A wonderful web experience!" "A great gaming experience!" "That new Star Trek show furthers the TV experience!" Get over it, it isn't an experience, it is a game. Furthermore, I guess Zap 2000! doesn't count as an animated game. What comes standard with the Palm PC that is awesome? Solitaire and Minesweeper? Definintely have to look add-on here in both cases.
I guess you do... but then again, the Palm's games aren't too stellar either... add-on or packaged. At least I can get Doom (which runs at 24fps and only takes up 5megs) for my CE device... or a color gameboy emulator. Can your palm play color gameboy games?
Sure you might not waht to play color gameboy games... but then you don't have to install that feature. Once again, with the PPC it's an option.
I love my WinCE device and can't wait to upgrade to the PPC devices. And no, I'm not a Microsoft lover... I'm running FreeBSD over here and even own a Mac (running LinuxPPC) Before you jump on me, yes the WinCE device CAN sync to Linux PCs.
Don't flame MS because it's "cool" and they're evil. They actually did good with this device, and I think Palm should really have to worry. Especially if the IIIc is all they can come up with.
-Nick Vlku
FOr those of you that don't know, "Firewire" is the same as "Sony i.Link" and 1394 ports. Sony just calls it that to prevent mindshare from Firewire.
Firewire is not "Sony i.Link." Firewire also provides a line of power to the devices connected, whereas products plugged into Sony's i.Link do not. A subtle difference, but one that could make a difference when buying a firewire drive WITHOUT an AC Adapter.
-Nick
Boo! I know, I know. Linux.com is run by VA and they IPOed. I was trying to make a funny! =]
-Nick Vlku
In light of all the linux and Internet companies being worth billions for producing no revenue... we have:
LINUX.COM announces IPO
(December 21,1999) NEW YORK -- Linux.com, the definitive linux commercial, e-commerce, e-world, e-desktop, internet/intranet open-source based solutions in the western half of New York state, has filed with the SEC for an inital public offering. Pending approval of the SEC, which is inevitable since linux.com follows all internet stock trends of having no revenue, no content, no business model, and no paradigm, linux.com
will start trading under the stock ticker LINC on the Nasdaq.
Investors are anxiously awaiting to jump in on this IPO which is expected to shatter VA Linux Systems record setting 700% increase in one day. "It's got Linux, and it's a dot-com! What more can you want!?" asked an unnamed Goldman Sachs employee. "Who cares about what they do? I'll just ride the wave and then jump off at 315 1/2!"
Sitting in his two room apartment in Eastern Syracuse NY, Ned Flounder, CEO, CTO and "Big Boss of the Company" highlights what Linux.com is all about. "It's about bringing a new operating system to the masses. It's about Microsoft sucking! It's about the Internet. It's about connecting these operating systems together in a world of global internet intranet mass PAN connectivity! It's about open source, and it's about closed source! It's about the global economy and e-commerce and amazon.com! It's about computers, and calculators! About the end of the millennium, with two N's, and the ball drop at Times Square... it's about positioning ---", at this point, Ned's ramble became incoherent. When WSJ reporter, I. M. Bile, asked about pecific business plans and company missions, he was told he had to leave since the plumber was coming to fix the toilet.
Already, news is a buzz across the Linux community which is featured in such sites as Slashdot.org. "Hey! We already have a website called Linux.com! This is BULLS**T PATENT INFRINGEMENT! FREE THE CODE!", exclaims
one Slashdot user. "FIRST POST!!!!", screams another. All, in all, the Slashdot community eagerly awaits a faithed letter, that will allow them to access this IPO if they deposit $10,000 into an E-Trade account and pass a multiple choice exam. Slashdot users, as well as wall street, wait with baited breath for the Linux.com
IPO.
Ever noticed how pompous people in the computer industry get? I doubt I'd ever see a doctor consider his patients "stupid" for inquirying about a treatment and demanding a description in laymen's English (ie "Your leg is broken" instead of "Your laterial tibia has a fracture.")
How come the computer industry is always full of these people that demand their consumers know the in's and out's of wiring a network, downloading BIOS patches, and configuring device drivers? It's something that the computer industry needs to get over eventually.
Of course, there are still power users who demand complete control over their system (I, for one, am one of them) however, we have to remember the average consumer can't tell the difference between Ethernet and Token Ring. The average user may be an international editor for Newsweek, but may not know what a "jack" is. What's wrong with that? Should he condemn you for not knowing the first thing to producing a weekly magazine? Every person has something they are knowledgable about. To condemn someone for not being techie is ridiculous.
Let's all get off our high horses. Once we do that, and only when we do that will Linux and our community as a whole affect the entire world.
-Nick Vlku vlkun@stuy.edu
Guys, look at the photos. According to the photos, the hard drives, floppy drives and the power supply are all kept outside of the case safe from the oil... only the motherboard is submerged.
-Nick
Actually, Quicktime 4 uses the Sorence (SP?) codec which unfortunately isn't supported by Xanim. I gotta admit though, that codec kicks serious ass. Not only is it 44.1khz stereo, but it also has amazing image quality. The trailer was 640x480, hiquality, stereo 44.1khz sound and only about 10 megs. I wish we'd get access to the codec for xanim!
-Nick (vlkun@stuy.edu)