Primates evolved from a more primative animal and then evolution split off what became humans on one pranch of the Primate tree, while monkeys, apes, lemurs, the GOP, et al, are some of the other branches on that same tree.
So, to recap, You're a dolt. Humans and Apes evolved from a common ancestor. Humans did not come from monkeys, monkeys did not come from humans.
Our common ancestor was some manny of small furry creature, that ran about on all fours.
Stop spreading creationist crapoloa and read a book. "Origin of Species" would be a good start.
"As I said, a contract does not have to be signed to be a contract. If you think it does, then show me the contract where CVS transferred the title to you."
The receipt that the cash register spits out that says "One CVS camcorder@$29.95". THAT'S the contract.
"And when you return your camera, do you get that back? So according to you, you have to pay them $20 and give them a camera which you own, in order to get the DVD?"
Yep. Funny how that works out.If you think it's a good deal to spend US$50.00 to get 20 minutes of video on a DVD, then CVS will be happy to take you, er, that is, take your money and give you a DVD with 20 minutes of video on it.
So, let's settle this once and for all.
Show me where CVS claims ownership of the camera after you hand them US$30.00.
OK, you show me in the contract form you have to sign at CVS before they hand you the camera that they are only renting it to you and that you have to return it.
Oh, wait, there IS no contract and you're not renting it. Not only do you NOT get your $30.00 back, you have to pay them $20.00 MORE to get your video off the camera and onto a DVD.
SO, if you can somehow twist these facts into some manner of "contract" where CVS "owns" the camera that they are merely "renting" to you, well, <Brian the dog from Family Guy>"Can I buy some pot from you?"</Brian the dog from Family Guy>
The language did not change, only the perception of what a hacker really is, changed, due to lazy media types who needed a simpleminded, one word definition. I guess THIEVES & VANDALS was too much of an intellectual reach for them.
"Hacker' is still a badge of honor, a term of distinction, Whether you like it or not.
Now go back and kiss Ranum's ass some more. You missed a spot.
It is NOT "hackers" causing all those problems with the internets that Dumbfuck McCumstain so laments. (Yes, I AM being really insulting and offensive to Marcus Ranum! He's been really insulting and offensive towards me and my fellow hackers.)
It is thieves and vandals causing all those problems.
Hackers invented the micro/home/personal computer. Hackers invented the diverse protocols that allowed these machines to talk to one another. Hackers invented the operating systems. Hackers invented the Internet. A hacker invented the World Wide Web.
Thieves and vandals merely took advantage of what hackers have invented and shared with the world. Took advantage and turned these tools to an evil purpose. Not hackers, THIEVES & VANDALS!
So fuck you, Ranum! Fuck you with Bill Gates dick! Fuck you with Monkeyboy Ballmer's dick! Fuck you with the collective dicks of SCO!
Just fuck you in general for your stupid, blinkered, stereotypical "oh, it's those damned hackers causing all my problems!" bullshit.
"The guy who wrote the SoundJam owned SoundJam - and he happened to be an Apple employee all along! Apple sure didn't have to look far for the basis of iTunes!"
Ex-Apple employee. As was the fellow who designed the user interface. Your nits seem in greater need of picking than mine.
Owned, Published, either way, C&G were making money off it. Apple ecame calling and SOMEONE sold the rights to SoundJam to Apple.
Shortly thereafter, C&G no longer sold SoundJam.
Dude, what makes you think I'm slagging either SoundJam or iTunes. I was pointing out an interesting bit of trivia regarding early versions of iTunes, relating to its SoundJam origins. Said origins seemingly predating the patent that Contois claims iTunes in now infringing. They had several years to file a suit against C&G concerning infringement, yet they waited until now to do so.
You know, I was using something that infringed...
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...their patents back in the 1980s.
SIDPlayer and SID Symphony on the Commodore 64.
The 64 could control a MDI device, it could transfer MIDI data from one device to another via it's serial line, it could even move digital music from the C64 to a portible music player (A Walkman cassette player) via the sound out port and a patch cable.
"Yeah. And it's only been out for, what 4 and a half years now (Jan 2001)? Longer, actually.
Apple bought SoundJam MP from Casady & Greene, and used it as the basis for iTunes. In fact, early version of iTunes have dialog boxes and controls identical to SoundJam, right down to screen placement when they're opened.
My SoundJam CD has a 1999 copyright date, and the about SoundJam file indicates a 1998 copyright date.
So poor old Contois, your "patents" have been infringed for far longer than you think, at least for 7 years.
And what about the software used by the first portible MP3 player, that surely must have infringed some of your patents, and yet, you did nothing about it, it seems, until 2005.
Indeed, the folks who own and license the rights to USB and FireWire certainly must be liable for SOME damages, what with their reckless aiding and abetting the transfer of bits to and from hard drives and flash RAM in portible MP3 players.
Such sloth on the part of your legal department surely has earned them all a collective bitchslap!
I would replace them all instantly! I hear that the SCO legal team will be looking for work soon.
There needs to be another "moderation" lable added to the list of "Funny", "Insightful", "Flamebait", etc.
"Linux Bigot".
As the carping and kvetching in this thread has so graphically proved.
"You've got to config it. And then you have to write some shell scripts. Update your RPMs. You have to partition your drives. And patch your kernel. Compile your binaries. Check your version dependencies. Probably do that once or twice.
It's just so easy. And so simple. I don't know why everyone doesn't run Linux."
...if you buy a Mac PPC G5 today, it'll be supported by Apple for the next 3-4 years or so.
By which time, not only will you likely be in the market for a new computer, the shakedown as Apple intgrates Intel into its hardware line will have been completed. 2008/9 era Macs will work fine, run fast and cool, and very, very likely run all the software you're using on that just purchsed today PPC G5, save for the OS, of course.
I swear, substitute "PPC" for "68040" and "IBM" for "Intel" and this whole non-issue sounds just like the bloviating when Apple went RISC and dropped Motorola's 68xxx CPUs.
Go and buy that new PPC G5 you want. It'll be just fine. You'll have a good computer that you'll be happy with for the next few years.
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Finishing up with a "In Soviet Russia..." joke
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Look the judge instructed the jury that mere possession of encryption software could be used ti infer criminal intent on the part of THIS ONE PERSON!
Damn! It's like the RIAA making a patently absurd claim that just because one COULD use an iPod for storing illegally copied MP3s, therefore ALL iPod owners are using them to store illegally downloaded MP3s...
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So Abreu sez:
"But lets be honest, if I can get an AMD system with a 15inch LCD screen, Sempron 2200 proc, and half a gig of ram for about 450usd, how am I gonna convince my wife that I should buy a 600usd mac mini, plus 250usd for the monitor, plus the keyboard and the silly one button mouse?"
Pardon my French, but what the goddamn fucking fuck are you using to access/. right this instant? (Assuming you're not using a laptop.)
You obviously HAVE a keyboard. You OBVIOUSLY have a monitor. Odds are that you have SOME kind of input device akin to a mouse or a trackball.
That's whay the Mini is sold without all that other stuff. If you're upgrading from a Windows desktop, you already have the peripherals.
And, frankly, unless the Apple Enforcement Gundams are pointing guns at you, you are not being forced to even contemplate buying a Mac Mini, no more than you are being prevented from buying that AMD system you mentioned.
I have been using one of these for well over a year.
Coupled with USB Overdrive (Sorry, Mac only!) this is the best mouse I've ever used. Good luck finding one in North America, though.
I keep my hand straight and rest my arm on the desktop. The mousepad I use raises the mouse just enough so that I can rest my wrist on the pad and move the mouse with my fingers and a minimum of wrist/arm movement.
I've rotated the pad 90 degrees, so that the "top" is now one of the "sides". This give me more than enough room to move the mouse and still have sufficient area for resting my wrist on the pad. YMMV.
Not only is it a functionally superior mouse, it's also bloody gorgeous, too. A beautiful little piece of abstract sculpture on my desktop.
I can, and have, used it for hours at a time with no distress whatsoever.
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None of you are asking the most important question of all about a Futurama movie:
Are we going to see Amy naked?
And not that lame "from behind so all we see is her butt" style nudity, either!
Give us full frontal naked Amy!
And naked Leela!
But no naked Hermes or Farnsworth.
Or Zap. Definitely no naked Zap.
That would be bad.
"The De Facto standard is USB. I can't tell you the last time I saw a Windows machine with PS2 ports.
Dude, y'all need to get out more, or stop shopping for hardware at Goodwill.
One or the other."
and I get moderated as troll.
I see where I went wrong.
I should have also said,
"Windows is teh suxx0r!"
In Soviet Russia, trolls moderate YOU!
The De Facto standard is USB. I can't tell you the last time I saw a Windows machine with PS2 ports.
Dude, y'all need to get out more, or stop shopping for hardware at Goodwill.
One or the other.
And you have been obsessed with my ass and inserting things in it for how long?
Project much?
So MustardMan sez:
"...NO WAY proves that men came from monkeys."
You're right. Humanity DIDN't come from monkeys.
Primates evolved from a more primative animal and then evolution split off what became humans on one pranch of the Primate tree, while monkeys, apes, lemurs, the GOP, et al, are some of the other branches on that same tree.
So, to recap, You're a dolt. Humans and Apes evolved from a common ancestor. Humans did not come from monkeys, monkeys did not come from humans.
Our common ancestor was some manny of small furry creature, that ran about on all fours.
Stop spreading creationist crapoloa and read a book. "Origin of Species" would be a good start.
"As I said, a contract does not have to be signed to be a contract. If you think it does, then show me the contract where CVS transferred the title to you."
The receipt that the cash register spits out that says "One CVS camcorder@$29.95". THAT'S the contract.
"And when you return your camera, do you get that back? So according to you, you have to pay them $20 and give them a camera which you own, in order to get the DVD?"
Yep. Funny how that works out.If you think it's a good deal to spend US$50.00 to get 20 minutes of video on a DVD, then CVS will be happy to take you, er, that is, take your money and give you a DVD with 20 minutes of video on it.
So, let's settle this once and for all.
Show me where CVS claims ownership of the camera after you hand them US$30.00.
OK, you show me in the contract form you have to sign at CVS before they hand you the camera that they are only renting it to you and that you have to return it.
Oh, wait, there IS no contract and you're not renting it. Not only do you NOT get your $30.00 back, you have to pay them $20.00 MORE to get your video off the camera and onto a DVD.
SO, if you can somehow twist these facts into some manner of "contract" where CVS "owns" the camera that they are merely "renting" to you, well, <Brian the dog from Family Guy>"Can I buy some pot from you?"</Brian the dog from Family Guy>
You're right. Words DO change meaning over the years.
Good luck with your career of being a douche, douche!
<Stewie_Griffin>"That's right. I went there!"</Stewie_Griffin>
What you are describing are (all together now!) THIEVES AND VANDALS!
A cracker is something you eat with a small piece of cheese on it.
The language did not change, only the perception of what a hacker really is, changed, due to lazy media types who needed a simpleminded, one word definition. I guess THIEVES & VANDALS was too much of an intellectual reach for them.
"Hacker' is still a badge of honor, a term of distinction, Whether you like it or not.
Now go back and kiss Ranum's ass some more. You missed a spot.
It is NOT "hackers" causing all those problems with the internets that Dumbfuck McCumstain so laments. (Yes, I AM being really insulting and offensive to Marcus Ranum! He's been really insulting and offensive towards me and my fellow hackers.)
It is thieves and vandals causing all those problems.
Hackers invented the micro/home/personal computer. Hackers invented the diverse protocols that allowed these machines to talk to one another. Hackers invented the operating systems. Hackers invented the Internet. A hacker invented the World Wide Web.
Thieves and vandals merely took advantage of what hackers have invented and shared with the world. Took advantage and turned these tools to an evil purpose. Not hackers, THIEVES & VANDALS!
So fuck you, Ranum! Fuck you with Bill Gates dick! Fuck you with Monkeyboy Ballmer's dick! Fuck you with the collective dicks of SCO!
Just fuck you in general for your stupid, blinkered, stereotypical "oh, it's those damned hackers causing all my problems!" bullshit.
Strongly worded comment to follow!
"The guy who wrote the SoundJam owned SoundJam - and he happened to be an Apple employee all along! Apple sure didn't have to look far for the basis of iTunes!"
Ex-Apple employee. As was the fellow who designed the user interface. Your nits seem in greater need of picking than mine.
Owned, Published, either way, C&G were making money off it. Apple ecame calling and SOMEONE sold the rights to SoundJam to Apple.
Shortly thereafter, C&G no longer sold SoundJam.
Dude, what makes you think I'm slagging either SoundJam or iTunes. I was pointing out an interesting bit of trivia regarding early versions of iTunes, relating to its SoundJam origins. Said origins seemingly predating the patent that Contois claims iTunes in now infringing. They had several years to file a suit against C&G concerning infringement, yet they waited until now to do so.
...their patents back in the 1980s.
SIDPlayer and SID Symphony on the Commodore 64.
The 64 could control a MDI device, it could transfer MIDI data from one device to another via it's serial line, it could even move digital music from the C64 to a portible music player (A Walkman cassette player) via the sound out port and a patch cable.
Sounds like a WHOLE lot of WAY prior art to me.
So daveschroeder sez:
"Yeah. And it's only been out for, what 4 and a half years now (Jan 2001)?
Longer, actually.
Apple bought SoundJam MP from Casady & Greene, and used it as the basis for iTunes. In fact, early version of iTunes have dialog boxes and controls identical to SoundJam, right down to screen placement when they're opened.
My SoundJam CD has a 1999 copyright date, and the about SoundJam file indicates a 1998 copyright date.
So poor old Contois, your "patents" have been infringed for far longer than you think, at least for 7 years.
And what about the software used by the first portible MP3 player, that surely must have infringed some of your patents, and yet, you did nothing about it, it seems, until 2005.
Indeed, the folks who own and license the rights to USB and FireWire certainly must be liable for SOME damages, what with their reckless aiding and abetting the transfer of bits to and from hard drives and flash RAM in portible MP3 players.
Such sloth on the part of your legal department surely has earned them all a collective bitchslap!
I would replace them all instantly! I hear that the SCO legal team will be looking for work soon.
There needs to be another "moderation" lable added to the list of "Funny", "Insightful", "Flamebait", etc.
"Linux Bigot".
As the carping and kvetching in this thread has so graphically proved.
"You've got to config it. And then you have to write some shell scripts. Update your RPMs. You have to partition your drives. And patch your kernel. Compile your binaries. Check your version dependencies. Probably do that once or twice.
It's just so easy. And so simple. I don't know why everyone doesn't run Linux."
Well, you've destroyed those nice scientists computers.
Go to your rooms and I want you to think long and hard about what you've done!
...if you buy a Mac PPC G5 today, it'll be supported by Apple for the next 3-4 years or so.
By which time, not only will you likely be in the market for a new computer, the shakedown as Apple intgrates Intel into its hardware line will have been completed. 2008/9 era Macs will work fine, run fast and cool, and very, very likely run all the software you're using on that just purchsed today PPC G5, save for the OS, of course.
I swear, substitute "PPC" for "68040" and "IBM" for "Intel" and this whole non-issue sounds just like the bloviating when Apple went RISC and dropped Motorola's 68xxx CPUs.
Go and buy that new PPC G5 you want. It'll be just fine. You'll have a good computer that you'll be happy with for the next few years.
This is the traditional post stating that the Mac OS is superior because it is unaffected by danmfool DLL or other interactionsi.
Also included in the traditional post is a gratuitous slam against Windows users: "Windows users are poopieheads for using Windows!"
Finishing up with a "In Soviet Russia..." joke
In Soviet Russia, Internet Explorer breaks Netscape!
It has been my pleasure to provide the Slashdot Community with the traditional posting making fun of the Windows OS and WIndows Users, contrasting the Windows OS with the Mac OS, in a snarky, oh, so superior and ultimately uninformative manner, in a comment thread about yet another flaw/fault/sploit in the Windows OS.
Thank you for your kind attention!
Apple Extended Keyboard.
20 years old and works & feels better than anything on the market today.
I'm using one right now and have 3 more in the closet for when this one finally craps out in another 20 years or so.
Look the judge instructed the jury that mere possession of encryption software could be used ti infer criminal intent on the part of THIS ONE PERSON!
Damn! It's like the RIAA making a patently absurd claim that just because one COULD use an iPod for storing illegally copied MP3s, therefore ALL iPod owners are using them to store illegally downloaded MP3s...
Oh, wait...
As long as you buy US$50.00 a year in merchandise from Thinkgeek, that is.
This is the traditional post stating that the Mac is OS is superior because it is unaffected by Windows viri.
Also included in the traditional post is a gratuitous slam against Windows users: "Windows users are poopieheads for using Windows!"
Finishing up with a "In Soviet Russia..." joke
In Soviet Russia, you infect Reuters!
It has been my pleasure to provide the Slashdot Community with the traditional posting making fun of the Windows OS and WIndows Users, contrasting the Windows OS with the Mac OS, in a snarky, oh, so superior and ultimately uninformative manner, in a comment thread about yet another flaw/fault/sploit in the Windows OS.
Thank you for your kind attention!
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So Abreu sez:
/. right this instant? (Assuming you're not using a laptop.)
"But lets be honest, if I can get an AMD system with a 15inch LCD screen, Sempron 2200 proc, and half a gig of ram for about 450usd, how am I gonna convince my wife that I should buy a 600usd mac mini, plus 250usd for the monitor, plus the keyboard and the silly one button mouse?"
Pardon my French, but what the goddamn fucking fuck are you using to access
You obviously HAVE a keyboard. You OBVIOUSLY have a monitor. Odds are that you have SOME kind of input device akin to a mouse or a trackball.
That's whay the Mini is sold without all that other stuff. If you're upgrading from a Windows desktop, you already have the peripherals.
And, frankly, unless the Apple Enforcement Gundams are pointing guns at you, you are not being forced to even contemplate buying a Mac Mini, no more than you are being prevented from buying that AMD system you mentioned.
That ain't no octopus.
What you got there is a "prarie squid". Beloved by all genders and sexual persuasions of SubGeniuses worldwide.
Looke like a right frisky little feller, too!
Praise "Bob"!
I have been using one of these for well over a year.
Coupled with USB Overdrive (Sorry, Mac only!) this is the best mouse I've ever used. Good luck finding one in North America, though.
I keep my hand straight and rest my arm on the desktop. The mousepad I use raises the mouse just enough so that I can rest my wrist on the pad and move the mouse with my fingers and a minimum of wrist/arm movement.
I've rotated the pad 90 degrees, so that the "top" is now one of the "sides". This give me more than enough room to move the mouse and still have sufficient area for resting my wrist on the pad. YMMV.
Not only is it a functionally superior mouse, it's also bloody gorgeous, too. A beautiful little piece of abstract sculpture on my desktop.
I can, and have, used it for hours at a time with no distress whatsoever.