I concur..games are supposed to be a stress relief...when I am doing poorly at a game, or get too frustrated, I can turn it off. The joy of games I think would be lost when the focus of playing them is monetarily based.
But damn, half a mil to play games for a year is not bad, not bad at all...I suppose you have to make sacrifices somewhere. And $60,000 bucks for "finger insurance"? Are you kidding? Must be nice to work for a compay that actually gives you insurance...as opposed to the 12 million Americans that work everyday and reap 0 insurance/benefits from it.
I've noticed the most ludicrous answers to my computer questions are answered by Best Buy employees. Sometimes I go there to buy hardware to get that "instant gratification", but most hardware can be bought for much cheaper over the internet, even with shipping.
I once went there to buy a stick of Crucial pc2100 to add to my pc. First off, the ram is behind the counter at the Best Buy in my area, I suppose to prevent theft, even though there seems to NEVER be anyone at the desk to help you, so it's pretty difficult to even read prices/ram info. I finally got an associate at the desk after a while and asked him if they had any crucial pc2100 512mb sticks in stock:
me: "Do you have a 512mb stick of Crucial PC2100 in stock?"
counter monkey: "Yes, we sure do!" (hands me a 256mb stick of Kingston)
me: "No, I meant Crucial RAM."
counter monkey: "Oh, all RAM is crucial to your system!"
Needless to say I had to point to the package that I wanted, after trying to explain to him it was a brand and I needed 512mb stick, not 256.
"If Microsoft went down the tubes, where do you think hardware manufacturers would be putting their support?"
I suppose in the 2nd largest PC OS available, Linux. What's your point? Regardless of whether manufacturers support Linux or not (the majority of them still don't) doesn't mean that there aren't a large group of talented coders out there that make drivers/software anyways. Most likely at least half the drivers I use are probably reverse engineered to begin with. Just because they're huge doesn't mean that they are the end all be all.
"I agree absolutely. I think we've gone beyond the stage of it being useful having two competing desktops."
What do you mean by that? Having two competing desktops is EXACTLY why I moved to Linux in the first place...there are a myriad of choices to choose from when it comes to just about anything. If Linux came as one, pre-packaged clump of software, like other OS's, then IMHO the user base would be much smaller than it is now. I think having choice is one of the biggest selling points of Linux on the desktop.
"In fact I seem to recall that Bill Gates himself (or Ballamer) said that he was very pleased that Linux had two competing desktops. That should be a wake-up call if nothing else."
Who cares? As much as everyone wants to topple M$ from their pedestal, ultimately it won't affect ME as a Linux user. As long as Linus is still coding with a team of kernel hackers, and people are still interested in writing OSS/Free software, who cares what they (M$) say/think/do. I don't use Windows, or any M$ products for that matter.
...if you happen to be part of the elite few that have money and time you can just spend like that. hopefully this could pave the way for a future where the average (in good health) joe could travel in space, but it won't be for a long while.
this is complete crap. i guess it's not illegal for them to ask for donations, it just displays how weak and un-inventive their company/business model is. i guess if you like mandrake that much, then 5 bucks is worth it. i personally wouldn't pay them, even if i was a mandrake advocate. mandrake is a newbie os (i doubt many would argue that) that is focused on usability, and not much more. i think that asking for something like this may almost "trick" newbies into using mandrake without trying the plethora of other distros out there. slack 4 was the first distro that i tried, and i was frustrated by my lack of knowing what to do. i tried mandrake 7.1, and learned enough to put slack back on and make it go.
putting slack back on was definately the best thing i did; mandrake basically took what i liked about red hat, dumbed it down, and broke it. in it's attempt to be compatible and more user friendly, it breaks many functions that i like about linux.
if mandrake isn't making money off of their current business model, they need to revise it or fail. there have been a multitude of projects that were a lot better than this that have failed
i remember not going near a computer for a while after seeing that movie, for fear it would bring malicious acts against me. midnight commander had never been so evil looking.......
heh, i used to work at kmart too. that's no joke. that was one of the worst ran business' i had ever seen. the only reason kmart has survived for so long is due to the fact that they sell cheap products to the largest percentage of americans: the ones who must be thrifty and live paycheck to paycheck. but as stated everywhere, the economy is having a bit of a seizure right now, which is having obvious effects on businesses everywhere.
i think the fact that amazon is making money is good for <i>any</i> company right now.
ford just laid off 45,000 and closed 4 factories also.
you're a rare breed, then. you would probably fit into the same tiny percentage that pirate games, with the intention of only "previewing" it, and then buying the legal copy if they like it.
let's face it; linux users are spoiled. when i discovered i could install an os that i could basically make do anything i want for nothing, and add package after beautiful package of excellent software for nothing. that alone was enough to give me chub. this as opposed to paying a ludicrous amount of money for an os and software that is designed to make things easier, not better.
as far as loki goes, it sucks, i hate seeing any linux based project that is trying to bolster the uses of the os go down in flames. but people just aren't willing to pay for linux services; they're too used to getting things for free.
not to mention the fact that there is a definate performance degredation between a windows run game and a linux one. playing quake 3 in linux is cool, but not when i'm going from 70 fps to 40.
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I concur..games are supposed to be a stress relief...when I am doing poorly at a game, or get too frustrated, I can turn it off. The joy of games I think would be lost when the focus of playing them is monetarily based.
But damn, half a mil to play games for a year is not bad, not bad at all...I suppose you have to make sacrifices somewhere. And $60,000 bucks for "finger insurance"? Are you kidding? Must be nice to work for a compay that actually gives you insurance...as opposed to the 12 million Americans that work everyday and reap 0 insurance/benefits from it.
I've noticed the most ludicrous answers to my computer questions are answered by Best Buy employees. Sometimes I go there to buy hardware to get that "instant gratification", but most hardware can be bought for much cheaper over the internet, even with shipping.
I once went there to buy a stick of Crucial pc2100 to add to my pc. First off, the ram is behind the counter at the Best Buy in my area, I suppose to prevent theft, even though there seems to NEVER be anyone at the desk to help you, so it's pretty difficult to even read prices/ram info. I finally got an associate at the desk after a while and asked him if they had any crucial pc2100 512mb sticks in stock:
me: "Do you have a 512mb stick of Crucial PC2100 in stock?"
counter monkey: "Yes, we sure do!" (hands me a 256mb stick of Kingston)
me: "No, I meant Crucial RAM."
counter monkey: "Oh, all RAM is crucial to your system!"
Needless to say I had to point to the package that I wanted, after trying to explain to him it was a brand and I needed 512mb stick, not 256.
"If Microsoft went down the tubes, where do you think hardware manufacturers would be putting their support?"
I suppose in the 2nd largest PC OS available, Linux. What's your point? Regardless of whether manufacturers support Linux or not (the majority of them still don't) doesn't mean that there aren't a large group of talented coders out there that make drivers/software anyways. Most likely at least half the drivers I use are probably reverse engineered to begin with. Just because they're huge doesn't mean that they are the end all be all.
"I agree absolutely. I think we've gone beyond the stage of it being useful having two competing desktops."
What do you mean by that? Having two competing desktops is EXACTLY why I moved to Linux in the first place...there are a myriad of choices to choose from when it comes to just about anything. If Linux came as one, pre-packaged clump of software, like other OS's, then IMHO the user base would be much smaller than it is now. I think having choice is one of the biggest selling points of Linux on the desktop.
"In fact I seem to recall that Bill Gates himself (or Ballamer) said that he was very pleased that Linux had two competing desktops. That should be a wake-up call if nothing else."
Who cares? As much as everyone wants to topple M$ from their pedestal, ultimately it won't affect ME as a Linux user. As long as Linus is still coding with a team of kernel hackers, and people are still interested in writing OSS/Free software, who cares what they (M$) say/think/do. I don't use Windows, or any M$ products for that matter.
Actually, I use Mozilla to go to First Union's site all of the time, but you're right, Capitol One is IE only.
are you nuts? why format and reinstall? use pkgtool and such (upgradpkg, installpkg) to install/upgrade your packages/libs.
this is an advanced os, it can do things most can't, such as not suck ass (or need to be 'reinstalled' whenever a newer version comes out).
most distros could learn a lot from slack.
...if you happen to be part of the elite few that have money and time you can just spend like that. hopefully this could pave the way for a future where the average (in good health) joe could travel in space, but it won't be for a long while.
this is complete crap. i guess it's not illegal for them to ask for donations, it just displays how weak and un-inventive their company/business model is. i guess if you like mandrake that much, then 5 bucks is worth it. i personally wouldn't pay them, even if i was a mandrake advocate. mandrake is a newbie os (i doubt many would argue that) that is focused on usability, and not much more. i think that asking for something like this may almost "trick" newbies into using mandrake without trying the plethora of other distros out there. slack 4 was the first distro that i tried, and i was frustrated by my lack of knowing what to do. i tried mandrake 7.1, and learned enough to put slack back on and make it go.
putting slack back on was definately the best thing i did; mandrake basically took what i liked about red hat, dumbed it down, and broke it. in it's attempt to be compatible and more user friendly, it breaks many functions that i like about linux.
if mandrake isn't making money off of their current business model, they need to revise it or fail. there have been a multitude of projects that were a lot better than this that have failed
i remember not going near a computer for a while after seeing that movie, for fear it would bring malicious acts against me. midnight commander had never been so evil looking.......
heh.
fp yo.
heh, i used to work at kmart too. that's no joke. that was one of the worst ran business' i had ever seen. the only reason kmart has survived for so long is due to the fact that they sell cheap products to the largest percentage of americans: the ones who must be thrifty and live paycheck to paycheck. but as stated everywhere, the economy is having a bit of a seizure right now, which is having obvious effects on businesses everywhere.
i think the fact that amazon is making money is good for <i>any</i> company right now.
ford just laid off 45,000 and closed 4 factories also.
>I buy both of them
you're a rare breed, then. you would probably fit into the same tiny percentage that pirate games, with the intention of only "previewing" it, and then buying the legal copy if they like it.
let's face it; linux users are spoiled. when i discovered i could install an os that i could basically make do anything i want for nothing, and add package after beautiful package of excellent software for nothing. that alone was enough to give me chub. this as opposed to paying a ludicrous amount of money for an os and software that is designed to make things easier, not better.
as far as loki goes, it sucks, i hate seeing any linux based project that is trying to bolster the uses of the os go down in flames. but people just aren't willing to pay for linux services; they're too used to getting things for free.
not to mention the fact that there is a definate performance degredation between a windows run game and a linux one. playing quake 3 in linux is cool, but not when i'm going from 70 fps to 40.
wow, you have a girlfriend? man you're lucky.....