Then how do you explain the cottage industry that exists around teaching Windows stuff?
We have academies, books, videos, interactive CDs, corporate training, all of them trying to explain Windows to the masses. Why? Because the thing is damn confussing. When you have something truly easy to use there is no busineess in explaining how it works.
This only shows that what Goebels said is true: "repeat a lie enough times and it will become true". The lie here is tha MS software is easy to use. The millons of dollars poured into training people to use Windows stuff demonstrates this without the shadow of a doubt. The marketing team at MS deserves every penny they earn, they have created a myth that even many technologically minded people believe in spite of copious evidence of the contrary.
Fortunately, there is also that saying that says "you can't fool all the people all the time".
I in the other hand invested a bit of time to learn Linux, in exchange I have a computer that always works and that I understand what it is doing.
I know that if I need a new network card I should buy a supported one which will be recognized automatically.
Knowledge is power, and this exemplifies it perfectly: you have delegated knowledge into others, thus they hold the power (you are the person having to react to external events, fearing about DRM).
I decided to make the knowledge mine and now MS would need to come begging to me with applications for Linux for me to even consider making business with them. By investing some time in learning I have shifted the knowledge in my advantage, leveraging OSS in my benefit has saved me money and headaches.
Oh yes, and when I want to play games I go and a buy a 2nd hand console, which is much better suited for the task and does not demand outrageous hardware upgrades with each new game that comes into the market.
These and other sites is where the average user buys (not Dell or HP, those are for corporate users). These are companies advertised in Magazines of wide circulation in the UK.
In both cases the OS is charged and you save money if you don't buy it.
It is a real pity that they don't have (yet) a box with Linux on it showing an increase of 0 (or a nominally lower increase of price) when selected.
I will run now to my parents' and grandma's to uninstall that useless, time wasteful Linux. Man, after 3 years using it they have not complained, but thanks to/. wisdom now I know what a pain I have been inflicting on them. Man, I deserve to be punished for that. I am sure they will praise me for taking them back to the Windows eXPerience. Oh yea, they can't afford the 2 yearly upgrade cycle and were fed up with crashes and viruses, nevermond. it is for their own good.
I will not talk about my intrinsic masochism, I have been using Linux since 1995 as desktop OS to write documents, email, web browsing, graphics editing, programming. My 100US$/year salaried time should not be wasted using Linux in the desktop.
Oh shit! My company is rolling out Linux desktops next year.
It is only fair that you are able to enjoy the fruits of your hard work, but once you are a gonner (touch wood, may that be in the very distant future) frankly you can't enjoy those fruits anymore.
It is more natural to wish that your close relatives benefit from those efforts, but in most you can't stretch that to more than 50 years.
After 90 yaers we are not talking anymore about beneffiting the creator or its closest relatives, but a group of parasite whose only merit is to be liucky bastards that happen to inherit (and now more often than not, boughts) the copyrights.
Society is not benefitting, the creator and his losest relatives are not benefitting, the only ones benefitting are the lwayers and the big media corporations that little by little are claiming ownership of any creative work produced.
The 14 year term is too short perhaps, but the 90 year term is an insult and frnakly I can't see any reason why this can be considered sane.
Copyright is not intended to protect a business model.
Is MS wants you to buy WXP that should have absolutely no bearing in how a copyright claim regarding W95 is assesed.
Copyrights are excatly that, the definition of who has roghts to copy something legally. It has absolutely nothing to do about who could be "collateral damage" once a given right to copy is exercised.
Main Entry: democracy Pronunciation: di-'ma-kr&-sE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -cies Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dEmokratia, from dEmos + -kratia -cracy Date: 1576 1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections 2 : a political unit that has a democratic government 3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the U.S. 4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority 5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
And just to make sure you get the point, from above:
"a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections".
I have seen instances of one single, non accounted for, machine bringing down corporate services on its own.
A badly compiled program like top brought one enterprise wide service (formed of 4 big servers) to its knees.
Do not tell me I am marking my territory. I love Linux and I do anything I can to promote it, but once a policy is agreed I will ensure it is complied with because otherwise everybody can be affected. This means $$$ which is what pays my salary and the one of the jock that thinks he is too 3l33t to follow corporate policies.
If the 'knowledgable users" will never ever require IT support again for their machine(i.e. they become their own little SA) then they are very welcomed to have the root password.
Actually I would demand they change it and I don't want to know it.
... is the fact that the UK (where the BBC and Sky News are based) uses (nominally at least) the metric system and the US(where CNN HQ are) uses Imperial (or English, British or whatever is called) system.
... got to an small court claims, and requested that the judge force them to release how much they are paying to MS for WinXP licenses in order to set the amount you are entitled to in accordance to the EULA...
Why should I suscribe if currently I have in excess of 500 CDs with all the music I am interested on?
I spend on CDs around 50/year (tops).
Want a business model? Buy an album for 10 bucks (CD, downloaded) and you get unrestricted access to a given area on a big music archive for one year (let say you buy latest Brittney's crap, then you choose to have access to all the recordings of Sir Simon Rattle).
Today, any fresh infrastucture build from scratch is cheaper if one uses Linux. That includes the desktops. No threath of DRM, not threat of surprise audits by MS backed "protection" gangster like organizations, you choose when and who upgrades your software.
And if you are in a hurry, you can correct problems yourself.
You seem to forget that once upon a time Windows was the hobbist OS.
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Really?
Then how do you explain the cottage industry that exists around teaching Windows stuff?
We have academies, books, videos, interactive CDs, corporate training, all of them trying to explain Windows to the masses. Why? Because the thing is damn confussing. When you have something truly easy to use there is no busineess in explaining how it works.
This only shows that what Goebels said is true: "repeat a lie enough times and it will become true". The lie here is tha MS software is easy to use. The millons of dollars poured into training people to use Windows stuff demonstrates this without the shadow of a doubt. The marketing team at MS deserves every penny they earn, they have created a myth that even many technologically minded people believe in spite of copious evidence of the contrary.
Fortunately, there is also that saying that says "you can't fool all the people all the time".
I in the other hand invested a bit of time to learn Linux, in exchange I have a computer that always works and that I understand what it is doing.
I know that if I need a new network card I should buy a supported one which will be recognized automatically.
Knowledge is power, and this exemplifies it perfectly: you have delegated knowledge into others, thus they hold the power (you are the person having to react to external events, fearing about DRM).
I decided to make the knowledge mine and now MS would need to come begging to me with applications for Linux for me to even consider making business with them. By investing some time in learning I have shifted the knowledge in my advantage, leveraging OSS in my benefit has saved me money and headaches.
Oh yes, and when I want to play games I go and a buy a 2nd hand console, which is much better suited for the task and does not demand outrageous hardware upgrades with each new game that comes into the market.
Check any of these:
www.simply.co.uk
www.watford.co.uk
These and other sites is where the average user buys (not Dell or HP, those are for corporate users). These are companies advertised in Magazines of wide circulation in the UK.
In both cases the OS is charged and you save money if you don't buy it.
It is a real pity that they don't have (yet) a box with Linux on it showing an increase of 0 (or a nominally lower increase of price) when selected.
Show your eveidence that it si harmful in moderation or shut up.
Or are you one of those religious zealots?
...but to me all beers smell is reminiscent of vomit.
But that may be because drunken people that vomit (eek) do so under the influence of beer nad not of wine or whiskey?
Who knows...
I will run now to my parents' and grandma's to uninstall that useless, time wasteful Linux. Man, after 3 years using it they have not complained, but thanks to /. wisdom now I know what a pain I have been inflicting on them. Man, I deserve to be punished for that. I am sure they will praise me for taking them back to the Windows eXPerience. Oh yea, they can't afford the 2 yearly upgrade cycle and were fed up with crashes and viruses, nevermond. it is for their own good.
I will not talk about my intrinsic masochism, I have been using Linux since 1995 as desktop OS to write documents, email, web browsing, graphics editing, programming. My 100US$/year salaried time should not be wasted using Linux in the desktop.
Oh shit! My company is rolling out Linux desktops next year.
I should stop them now!
Foooools!
It is only fair that you are able to enjoy the fruits of your hard work, but once you are a gonner (touch wood, may that be in the very distant future) frankly you can't enjoy those fruits anymore.
It is more natural to wish that your close relatives benefit from those efforts, but in most you can't stretch that to more than 50 years.
After 90 yaers we are not talking anymore about beneffiting the creator or its closest relatives, but a group of parasite whose only merit is to be liucky bastards that happen to inherit (and now more often than not, boughts) the copyrights.
Society is not benefitting, the creator and his losest relatives are not benefitting, the only ones benefitting are the lwayers and the big media corporations that little by little are claiming ownership of any creative work produced.
The 14 year term is too short perhaps, but the 90 year term is an insult and frnakly I can't see any reason why this can be considered sane.
Copyright is not intended to protect a business model.
Is MS wants you to buy WXP that should have absolutely no bearing in how a copyright claim regarding W95 is assesed.
Copyrights are excatly that, the definition of who has roghts to copy something legally. It has absolutely nothing to do about who could be "collateral damage" once a given right to copy is exercised.
You and yur ilk frnakly get boring and tiresome.
Main Entry: democracy
Pronunciation: di-'ma-kr&-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dEmokratia, from dEmos + -kratia -cracy
Date: 1576
1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the U.S.
4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
And just to make sure you get the point, from above:
"a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections".
Idiot.
The unsung heroes of freedom.
And for that protection, you are willing to sacrifice your liberties.
Disgusting frankly.
Whn you go to France or Russia you are surely one of those that expects to be all the times greeted in US English I am sure.
Well, if you are not like that, then learn Linux and believe it or not, the machine will do what you want.
Annd what you say about RTFm is bullshit. There are tons of material in the net, how tos, faqs, perosnla pages, discussion board, USENET, etc.
If you don't find help it is because you don't want to.
I have been using Linux fo 8 years now and I have never been treated in the way you imply by anybody providing help.
You should upgrade to Linux, there you can see all this.
Try telneting to a W98 machine.
Or ftp.
Same thing, moron. If there is no server running the machine can't be affected.
I have seen top killing NIS+ servers running ins Solaris desktop.
I have seen one Linux workstation DOSing big NFS servers.
I have seen a Gnome sound applet generating so many syslog messages that our monitoring servers could not check for real alerts.
Take your cavalier attitude to where it belongs: to your home network.
I have seen instances of one single, non accounted for, machine bringing down corporate services on its own.
A badly compiled program like top brought one enterprise wide service (formed of 4 big servers) to its knees.
Do not tell me I am marking my territory. I love Linux and I do anything I can to promote it, but once a policy is agreed I will ensure it is complied with because otherwise everybody can be affected. This means $$$ which is what pays my salary and the one of the jock that thinks he is too 3l33t to follow corporate policies.
If the 'knowledgable users" will never ever require IT support again for their machine(i.e. they become their own little SA) then they are very welcomed to have the root password.
Actually I would demand they change it and I don't want to know it.
... is the fact that the UK (where the BBC and Sky News are based) uses (nominally at least) the metric system and the US(where CNN HQ are) uses Imperial (or English, British or whatever is called) system.
I don't have time to waste building my own boxes.
... got to an small court claims, and requested that the judge force them to release how much they are paying to MS for WinXP licenses in order to set the amount you are entitled to in accordance to the EULA...
I don't want to subscribe to any music service.
Why should I suscribe if currently I have in excess of 500 CDs with all the music I am interested on?
I spend on CDs around 50/year (tops).
Want a business model? Buy an album for 10 bucks (CD, downloaded) and you get unrestricted access to a given area on a big music archive for one year (let say you buy latest Brittney's crap, then you choose to have access to all the recordings of Sir Simon Rattle).
... Taliban or members of the Ba'hat party?
If you can't take the time to learn Linux to do that don't blame the OS. Blame you own incompetence.
All what you are saying is piece of cake with Linux/Unix.
You keep it because it is cost effective.
Today, any fresh infrastucture build from scratch is cheaper if one uses Linux. That includes the desktops. No threath of DRM, not threat of surprise audits by MS backed "protection" gangster like organizations, you choose when and who upgrades your software.
And if you are in a hurry, you can correct problems yourself.
You seem to forget that once upon a time Windows was the hobbist OS.
The advantage is that it puts your IT planning back in your hands.
Under the current situation you are hostage to whateve MS wants to take you today.
Sun does not use MS stuff and can communicate with their cleints fine. And that was before Star Office.