Art normally is done by and for itself, it is not born out of a need to do something else (playing games) and then, 40 years later, all of the sudden, realizing that it is art.
Video games may be aesthetically pleasing for some, but their main purpouse (to entertain middle class and upwards, mainly male, young adults) clearly signal that art is the last of the concerns of the game makers.
The "A Bar at the Folie-Bergere" I believe is in the Courtaud(Sp?) Gallery in London.
So whoever can do it go and compare. Even if it is not there there are superb examples of impressionist painitng there, and the famous self portrait of Van Gogh after chopping his ear.
Maybe you have heard that anecdote about Mozart: there was this sacred song that the Vatican I believe, would not allow to copy to anybody. Then Mozart came, heard the thing, memorized it, wrote it all down and performed it later.
Repeat after me 300 times: once it is perfomed, it can be recorded.
Good, that is reality. Unless you come with a convenient way to popularize somebody like Big Brother in a democratic society there is no way you can stop all the Mozarts of the world.
Even if there is no way to directly copy a movie from a DVD, that does not stop anybody to go, watch the movie and create a crappy animated version (which will improve with time, it is just a matter of waiting until kiddies in their garage can produce movies of passable quality with their Beowulf clusters) and release it for free.
All of the sudden all this crappy legislation would become just a paliative and people would have handed over (via passive acceptance) their rights to fair use.
For music this is done and dusted. Let the big companies make it technically impossible to copy anything,it is trivial to hear the music, write it down, play it and distribute it.
Even worst for the IP companies, as Open Source is changing the way many people think about software, something like Open Music (the way music always was before recording was invented) will change the way people think about music, Open Movies, Open Photos and Open Books will shortly follow. What are they going to do? Forbade us to sing, write and make crappy home videos unless we distribute them through their Copy Right aware distribution chanels?
There is no way this can be stopped. Any legislation and business model should deal with this reality, legislation is there to organize our actions around a given reality, no the other way around (in which case it is bad legislation).
Companies with a legitimate business proposition will adapt around this. All the others will be remembered with certain desdain, perhaps as steel and coal industries are seen in many places where they are vanished: they were good for a while, but they were a bad thing after sometime, and basically everybody was happy to see them go.
The answer has been said several times, but let me join the chorus:
1.- Definition of basic digital rights for the average person. 2.- Acceptance from the legislature that they are not there to gurantee profits for any industry. 3.- The IP industry needs to work more with their customers to find what they really need and want. If that means less margins and profits better they bite the bullet now.
And the immense distances between Galaxies are fake.
And Evolution happening under our noses (investigate about HIV strains or dog breeds if you are intellectualy honest) is also fake.
Your jar alegory is pathetic. Life happened just by chance, in many other places your "jar" was shaken and nothing happened (as far as we know so far). That you dismiss that is highly dishonest intellectualy speaking.
Science aims to find the truth, religion thinks it has it.
How many more times do we need to see religion yet failing again to help us deal with the real world before we get rid of it altogether?
Humanity prayed and feared all kind of gods for millenia, it was not until humanity began to use its brain to solve problems when things like disease began to be less harmful. All the prayers of the world didi not do a single iota to save people from rabies. One man thinking and inventing vacination has saved millions of lifes.
That is the difference between science and religion.
It does. Believing in this crap just for the hell of it shows a deep ignorance.
Whenever one presents to an alien abduction proponent, for example, with hard cold facts about interestelar distances, the speed of light and other niceties they come with weird wet pseudo scientific dreams.
There is no worst ignorance than the one willingly self practiced.
All those places that are banking in the vanity of mostly women that want the perfect tan, they are selling something that one can get for free, they just offer it in a convenient, stilyzed environemnt.
In Mexico and Nicaragua the US killed democracy plain and simple, and that was before the excuse of the Cold War.
The US at one time or another supported people like Fulgencio Batista, Anastasio Somoza, Augusto Pinochet, the Argentinian miltary junta, the Duvaliers, the Guatemalan golpists (to prompt up a fruit company of all democratic causes).
Other freinds had included Mobuto, and o yes Saddam.
Get your idiotic rethoric out of here and keep it in that dreamland where the US are champions of freedom and democracy and not slaves of their interests.
The ideal would be to have "adulthood" examinations (some people would never pass:-) ) but the easiest and most practical is to set an age threshold.
This threshold assumes that in a given community most young people have received the adecuate education and awarness that prepares them for adult life.
In Holland, where for example sex education starts from a very young age, this threshold is 12.
In other countries, where sex education is shunned upon and better not discussed, well, the age one is considered a child is higher, and rightly so.
If the objectives are: a) Share files between UNIX and Windows machines in a transparent manner. b) Share printers between UNIX and Windows machines in a transparent manner.
Why do we have to use MS stuff?
There is PC-NFS and maybe other solutions.
And what is stopping us to create a SAMBA-FS system with a new protocol (the necessary software to understand the protocol would be installed in the Windows machine to make things transparent to users). I believe it is time to solve problems and not to mimic MS solutions, which is what sadly has been happening for a while in many OS projects.
As both a long time Linux enthusiast (1996, Slackware) and as an specialist in HCI I can say with confidence that Debian installation is the less user frienldy of all the Linux distros I have seen (I have tried RH, Suse, Mandrake, Slackware, Progeny, Corel, SmoothWall and maybe one or two more).
dselect is the antithesis of what user friendliness means, I congratulate the people in the Debian project for getting rid of it to hopefully use a piece of software more fitting of the best distribution currently available.
Now it is clear that the.com bomb was a balloon full of hot air.
Now, the same media that hyped the whole affair wants us to believe, that the new balloo.... I mean... boom will be even bigger.
Lets obviate the fact that building weapons of mass destruction is a pretty shortsighted way of make a living, and I will ignore also how hyocratical that is.
What is really idiotic is the same group of talented technologists falling over immediately for exactly the same hype: oh yess, the boom is coming, oh yesss, now it is arms, cryptography, surveillance not websites and e-commerce.
What is jugded is the artistic quality of a work, not how much sweat was used to produce it.
Which three films did he do at the same time? And so what? Maybe for having his hands in so many things at the same time he could not make it the best movie, which is horribly dificult whit a movie where the stars are the battles and visual effects.
Movies are much more than pliatives for videogames, people that know what movies are all about recognize that, other people think that if something is midly enjoyable or amusing it is the best of all times ever.
Which is a bunch of nonsense because most probably have not seen movies older than 5 years.
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In many places to hold for too long to a job is seen as a sign of stagnation (nobody considered worth snatching you).
You either decide to make a career somewhere or forget about it. 2 years average per job sounds about right.
Not even for the masses.
Art normally is done by and for itself, it is not born out of a need to do something else (playing games) and then, 40 years later, all of the sudden, realizing that it is art.
Video games may be aesthetically pleasing for some, but their main purpouse (to entertain middle class and upwards, mainly male, young adults) clearly signal that art is the last of the concerns of the game makers.
The "A Bar at the Folie-Bergere" I believe is in the Courtaud(Sp?) Gallery in London.
So whoever can do it go and compare. Even if it is not there there are superb examples of impressionist painitng there, and the famous self portrait of Van Gogh after chopping his ear.
Videogames art? Yeah, sure.
Don't force a PDA to do the work of a real computer...
Bacteria mutate?
You herectic!
Evolution is evil. Did not you know that?
You'll rot in hell.
Can you mention three things you would like the most to be addressed by enthusiasts of Open Source software?
Maybe you have heard that anecdote about Mozart: there was this sacred song that the Vatican I believe, would not allow to copy to anybody. Then Mozart came, heard the thing, memorized it, wrote it all down and performed it later.
Repeat after me 300 times: once it is perfomed, it can be recorded.
Good, that is reality. Unless you come with a convenient way to popularize somebody like Big Brother in a democratic society there is no way you can stop all the Mozarts of the world.
Even if there is no way to directly copy a movie from a DVD, that does not stop anybody to go, watch the movie and create a crappy animated version (which will improve with time, it is just a matter of waiting until kiddies in their garage can produce movies of passable quality with their Beowulf clusters) and release it for free.
All of the sudden all this crappy legislation would become just a paliative and people would have handed over (via passive acceptance) their rights to fair use.
For music this is done and dusted. Let the big companies make it technically impossible to copy anything,it is trivial to hear the music, write it down, play it and distribute it.
Even worst for the IP companies, as Open Source is changing the way many people think about software, something like Open Music (the way music always was before recording was invented) will change the way people think about music, Open Movies, Open Photos and Open Books will shortly follow. What are they going to do? Forbade us to sing, write and make crappy home videos unless we distribute them through their Copy Right aware distribution chanels?
There is no way this can be stopped. Any legislation and business model should deal with this reality, legislation is there to organize our actions around a given reality, no the other way around (in which case it is bad legislation).
Companies with a legitimate business proposition will adapt around this. All the others will be remembered with certain desdain, perhaps as steel and coal industries are seen in many places where they are vanished: they were good for a while, but they were a bad thing after sometime, and basically everybody was happy to see them go.
The answer has been said several times, but let me join the chorus:
1.- Definition of basic digital rights for the average person.
2.- Acceptance from the legislature that they are not there to gurantee profits for any industry.
3.- The IP industry needs to work more with their customers to find what they really need and want. If that means less margins and profits better they bite the bullet now.
Show us the evidence, otherwise go troll somewhere else.
And the fossils are fake.
And the immense distances between Galaxies are fake.
And Evolution happening under our noses (investigate about HIV strains or dog breeds if you are intellectualy honest) is also fake.
Your jar alegory is pathetic. Life happened just by chance, in many other places your "jar" was shaken and nothing happened (as far as we know so far). That you dismiss that is highly dishonest intellectualy speaking.
Godel. Try Godel.
And to the rest : bullshit.
Science aims to find the truth, religion thinks it has it.
How many more times do we need to see religion yet failing again to help us deal with the real world before we get rid of it altogether?
Humanity prayed and feared all kind of gods for millenia, it was not until humanity began to use its brain to solve problems when things like disease began to be less harmful. All the prayers of the world didi not do a single iota to save people from rabies. One man thinking and inventing vacination has saved millions of lifes.
That is the difference between science and religion.
To observe species for 200 million years and record changes wil be quite a Lab experiment.
It does. Believing in this crap just for the hell of it shows a deep ignorance.
Whenever one presents to an alien abduction proponent, for example, with hard cold facts about interestelar distances, the speed of light and other niceties they come with weird wet pseudo scientific dreams.
There is no worst ignorance than the one willingly self practiced.
All those places that are banking in the vanity of mostly women that want the perfect tan, they are selling something that one can get for free, they just offer it in a convenient, stilyzed environemnt.
In Mexico and Nicaragua the US killed democracy plain and simple, and that was before the excuse of the Cold War.
The US at one time or another supported people like Fulgencio Batista, Anastasio Somoza, Augusto Pinochet, the Argentinian miltary junta, the Duvaliers, the Guatemalan golpists (to prompt up a fruit company of all democratic causes).
Other freinds had included Mobuto, and o yes Saddam.
Get your idiotic rethoric out of here and keep it in that dreamland where the US are champions of freedom and democracy and not slaves of their interests.
And I have had the opossite experience.
So that leaves us where?
What would be your workable alternative?
:-) ) but the easiest and most practical is to set an age threshold.
The ideal would be to have "adulthood" examinations (some people would never pass
This threshold assumes that in a given community most young people have received the adecuate education and awarness that prepares them for adult life.
In Holland, where for example sex education starts from a very young age, this threshold is 12.
In other countries, where sex education is shunned upon and better not discussed, well, the age one is considered a child is higher, and rightly so.
If the objectives are:
a) Share files between UNIX and Windows machines in a transparent manner.
b) Share printers between UNIX and Windows machines in a transparent manner.
Why do we have to use MS stuff?
There is PC-NFS and maybe other solutions.
And what is stopping us to create a SAMBA-FS system with a new protocol (the necessary software to understand the protocol would be installed in the Windows machine to make things transparent to users).
I believe it is time to solve problems and not to mimic MS solutions, which is what sadly has been happening for a while in many OS projects.
If you are a MS shareholder it is pretty clear: crush the hippies of the OS movement. Declare Stallman and Linus terrorists, antiamerican, etc.
If you are a user: document your damn formats and protocols.
As both a long time Linux enthusiast (1996, Slackware) and as an specialist in HCI I can say with confidence that Debian installation is the less user frienldy of all the Linux distros I have seen (I have tried RH, Suse, Mandrake, Slackware, Progeny, Corel, SmoothWall and maybe one or two more).
dselect is the antithesis of what user friendliness means, I congratulate the people in the Debian project for getting rid of it to hopefully use a piece of software more fitting of the best distribution currently available.
I worked for ML for a couple of years:
-Yes, all email is handled with Exchange.
-Windows is not used much for critical stuff (Sun shop, some IBM stuff).
Internal development is mainly UNIX development. I can't think of much stuff that was done in NT machines...
Active directory? You are joking, right?
In most companies I have worked for NT people administer in average less machines (far many less) that similarly sized groups of UNIX people.
Now it is clear that the .com bomb was a balloon full of hot air.
... boom will be even bigger.
Now, the same media that hyped the whole affair wants us to believe, that the new balloo.... I mean
Lets obviate the fact that building weapons of mass destruction is a pretty shortsighted way of make a living, and I will ignore also how hyocratical that is.
What is really idiotic is the same group of talented technologists falling over immediately for exactly the same hype: oh yess, the boom is coming, oh yesss, now it is arms, cryptography, surveillance not websites and e-commerce.
Technology rulez.
Great, way to go.
What is jugded is the artistic quality of a work, not how much sweat was used to produce it.
Which three films did he do at the same time? And so what? Maybe for having his hands in so many things at the same time he could not make it the best movie, which is horribly dificult whit a movie where the stars are the battles and visual effects.
Movies are much more than pliatives for videogames, people that know what movies are all about recognize that, other people think that if something is midly enjoyable or amusing it is the best of all times ever.
Which is a bunch of nonsense because most probably have not seen movies older than 5 years.
For very silly movies.
enough said.
A film can be very good as a whole but not excell in certain aspects.
They got prizes that were truly deserved it, they did not get them were they were clearly lacking depth.
From a cinematoraphic point of view it is far more dificult to act and direct something like "A Beautiful mind" than it is LOTR.
In LOTR any artistic qualities get lost behind the screams of all the funky characters during the battles.
Thank goodness that another blockbuster bites the dust to higher artistic acomplishments.