In other news senators carrying large bags of money proposed changing the law and making it legal for music companies to DOS people accusing them of price fixing.
I think we might be able to avoid this by saying something on a front page like "By entering any farther into this web site, you hereby agree that all suits brought against this web site will be brought in the same state/country as the web server itself, all violaters may not enter this web page any farther"
Then you can ask anyone who sues you outside of your country/city, "how did you know there was content there? You had no right to enter the web site"
I suppose I'm a bit idealistic.
I think that the rulers of a cyber-government would be just as succetbale to Disney and such as the good ol' US of A, there are certain things like pop up adds, and falsy e-mail that where clearly made to cater to the coperations and their advertisements. Perhaps we should start the rally cry of "Keep the internet free"
Perhaps it is time for the geeks of the world to declare the internt a soverign country, with and end user licenses agrement that says something like the folowing:
ATTENTION by connecting your computer to the internet you agree that
1) Everyone has the right to say whatever they $^&# 'ign want and you can choose to listen or not.
2) you realize that the internet might be insecure, like walking down a street, Provide secruity for yourself.
3) We wil not take down a page you find offencive, someone wanted to say that.
4) We don't care about treaties you all signed, they are not ours.
5)By conneting your machine to our network you agree that you have read this agreement, even if you are a government this applies to you.
6) I said that we don't care if you are #$%'ing offended you controll where you browse.
7)Don't look to us to solve your internal network problems, it is YOUR fault they were not secure.
To governments:
we know your country has laws, so do we, we don't care what someone in another country did, it was not in your country. If you are so afraid of content perhaps you are closed minded or if you dislike content perhaps your citizens shouldn't be here.
Perhaps someone a little bit better should draft the deleration of indpendence for the net, But Hey the whole internet dosen't need to be indepented, Perhaps/. could declare soverinty along with other places that would work better too. I suppose my long rant ends with a summary. I don't reacall the citizens of the internet having a say, that is bad.
I agree that what is happning is terrible, but isn't arson allready a crime? isn't plotting any of these actvitices allready a crime? I don't belive anyone should be alloud to regulate speech, on the other hand all the things you listed seem to allready be crimes, like plotting arson or murder. I really do not see how you can regulate someones likes or dislikes for , but I there is (and should be) regulation of doing to.Trying to regulate actions because they somtimes lead to illgal actions seems pretty useless to me. (note I dislike saying bad things about people for things they can't change but protecting speech is protecting unpopular speech)
As I understand it, the probelm is not that consumers don't have a choice but that they have a headache uninstalling the microsoft software or making it the non default one.
if un-instalation took 5seconds or less I would not have a problem, Also I'm curious as how apple forces people to use their bundeled software it's rather easy to change default settings and easy to delete unwanted software, I think that forcing is when you can't get IE off your machine, not when software comes with your OS.
All it takes is one company that won't use this. If one company will make moniters and graphics cards of high quality that won't do this, a free market would favor them until companyts would need to meet there standards of un-encrypted to sell their productes, right?
I don't know mcuh if this is wrong I'm sure it'll be pointed out soon. But it only takes one comapny to stand up.
The way I read this, if I trasmit encrypted Nazi propaganda to another computer on a LAN in the USA, could I be arrested by 1) Germany for distibuting Nazi propaganda 2) AND france for useing encryption in a crime? I feel like writing to anyone and everyone that represents me in the government.(Just on principle I oppse this) I am an american citizen not a french and german citizen and I don't care a words worth about their laws espically concerning my LAN!!
And that at breaks that atmophere of the game at all (I have no problem with games looking more real, but FF with an ad for almost anything would ruin the atmosphere) I'd be tempted to repay you for breaking my atmosphere by not buying whatever your advertising and telling my friends "X comapany dosen't want you to have a good gaming exprience" and any ad in a MMPORPG would make me very mad (One of those people who insist or RP'ing inside the game)
You suppose M$ will put in "Special" V chips that filter out such Un-american themes as
Open Source. It could go something like this:
Bill G: The X Box has a special new V chip, it filters out the horrible things so children can't see them. This is a game that your child could play without you knowing if you don't have a V chip
a penguin happily runs across the screen and hands a CD labled open-source to another penguin
Bill G: Now we have the same game filtered with the X-box V chip to insure that your children see nothing but clean good AMERICAN themes
The penguin now has horns and looks mean. As he hands the CD crudly labled open source to a person who looks terrified we hear the person scream and a chain gun with the M$ logo kills the poor water-bird.
Bill G: *Sniff* makes me think of apple pie, baseball and a free America!
I find that a cut seen can be rewarding after you have just blowen away that "huge creature of ultimate nastiness" these rules would seem to develope titles with no class and story restriction rules out almsot any fantasy plot.
I think this is a horrible travesty. I think if this is the real killer of creativity and un-american not open source, after all why should M$ make a new producte when people are willing to pay for it month after month? Also what happens if the new OS dosen't run on the old machine? since you never owned the OS for that machine your stuck with hardware you can't use and you have to upgrade just so you can pay for the new OS, I think the consumer gets messed.
Honestly if there was a sega monolopy I'd rather give up consoles than use a dreamcast controller, but seriously dosen't PS2 and Gamecube prevent a monoply?
I'm confused by all of this, so anyone who kills something in a virtual reality is a murderer? Does this mean the authors who kill of characters are up there with america's most wanted? If not them then are people who kll other people's charecters in tabletop RPG's murderers as well? I'd like to belive people have a better grasp on reality than beliveing a virtual reality as real reality, I better stop those horrible UT Last man standing killing sprees of mine.
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In other news senators carrying large bags of money proposed changing the law and making it legal for music companies to DOS people accusing them of price fixing.
I think we might be able to avoid this by saying something on a front page like "By entering any farther into this web site, you hereby agree that all suits brought against this web site will be brought in the same state/country as the web server itself, all violaters may not enter this web page any farther" Then you can ask anyone who sues you outside of your country/city, "how did you know there was content there? You had no right to enter the web site" I suppose I'm a bit idealistic.
I think that the rulers of a cyber-government would be just as succetbale to Disney and such as the good ol' US of A, there are certain things like pop up adds, and falsy e-mail that where clearly made to cater to the coperations and their advertisements. Perhaps we should start the rally cry of "Keep the internet free"
Perhaps it is time for the geeks of the world to declare the internt a soverign country, with and end user licenses agrement that says something like the folowing:
/. could declare soverinty along with other places that would work better too. I suppose my long rant ends with a summary. I don't reacall the citizens of the internet having a say, that is bad.
ATTENTION by connecting your computer to the internet you agree that
1) Everyone has the right to say whatever they $^&# 'ign want and you can choose to listen or not.
2) you realize that the internet might be insecure, like walking down a street, Provide secruity for yourself.
3) We wil not take down a page you find offencive, someone wanted to say that.
4) We don't care about treaties you all signed, they are not ours.
5)By conneting your machine to our network you agree that you have read this agreement, even if you are a government this applies to you.
6) I said that we don't care if you are #$%'ing offended you controll where you browse.
7)Don't look to us to solve your internal network problems, it is YOUR fault they were not secure.
To governments:
we know your country has laws, so do we, we don't care what someone in another country did, it was not in your country. If you are so afraid of content perhaps you are closed minded or if you dislike content perhaps your citizens shouldn't be here.
Perhaps someone a little bit better should draft the deleration of indpendence for the net, But Hey the whole internet dosen't need to be indepented, Perhaps
I'm afraid this argument has been downgraded to a "think of the children" and can be safely disgarded
I agree that what is happning is terrible, but isn't arson allready a crime? isn't plotting any of these actvitices allready a crime? I don't belive anyone should be alloud to regulate speech, on the other hand all the things you listed seem to allready be crimes, like plotting arson or murder. I really do not see how you can regulate someones likes or dislikes for , but I there is (and should be) regulation of doing to .Trying to regulate actions because they somtimes lead to illgal actions seems pretty useless to me. (note I dislike saying bad things about people for things they can't change but protecting speech is protecting unpopular speech)
As I understand it, the probelm is not that consumers don't have a choice but that they have a headache uninstalling the microsoft software or making it the non default one. if un-instalation took 5seconds or less I would not have a problem, Also I'm curious as how apple forces people to use their bundeled software it's rather easy to change default settings and easy to delete unwanted software, I think that forcing is when you can't get IE off your machine, not when software comes with your OS.
All it takes is one company that won't use this. If one company will make moniters and graphics cards of high quality that won't do this, a free market would favor them until companyts would need to meet there standards of un-encrypted to sell their productes, right? I don't know mcuh if this is wrong I'm sure it'll be pointed out soon. But it only takes one comapny to stand up.
The way I read this, if I trasmit encrypted Nazi propaganda to another computer on a LAN in the USA, could I be arrested by 1) Germany for distibuting Nazi propaganda 2) AND france for useing encryption in a crime? I feel like writing to anyone and everyone that represents me in the government.(Just on principle I oppse this) I am an american citizen not a french and german citizen and I don't care a words worth about their laws espically concerning my LAN!!
It sounds to me alot like the moniter device in 1984 that made sure you didn't do anything wrong
And that at breaks that atmophere of the game at all (I have no problem with games looking more real, but FF with an ad for almost anything would ruin the atmosphere) I'd be tempted to repay you for breaking my atmosphere by not buying whatever your advertising and telling my friends "X comapany dosen't want you to have a good gaming exprience" and any ad in a MMPORPG would make me very mad (One of those people who insist or RP'ing inside the game)
Bill G: The X Box has a special new V chip, it filters out the horrible things so children can't see them. This is a game that your child could play without you knowing if you don't have a V chip
a penguin happily runs across the screen and hands a CD labled open-source to another penguin
Bill G: Now we have the same game filtered with the X-box V chip to insure that your children see nothing but clean good AMERICAN themes
The penguin now has horns and looks mean. As he hands the CD crudly labled open source to a person who looks terrified we hear the person scream and a chain gun with the M$ logo kills the poor water-bird.
Bill G: *Sniff* makes me think of apple pie, baseball and a free America!
Can someone plese tell me what these "Someone set up us the bomb" and "all your base are ours" things are Suppose to mean?
I don't know exacts but any school that can send up a sattalite in my mind is getting more funds than they should
I find that a cut seen can be rewarding after you have just blowen away that "huge creature of ultimate nastiness" these rules would seem to develope titles with no class and story restriction rules out almsot any fantasy plot.
I think this is a horrible travesty. I think if this is the real killer of creativity and un-american not open source, after all why should M$ make a new producte when people are willing to pay for it month after month? Also what happens if the new OS dosen't run on the old machine? since you never owned the OS for that machine your stuck with hardware you can't use and you have to upgrade just so you can pay for the new OS, I think the consumer gets messed.
Honestly if there was a sega monolopy I'd rather give up consoles than use a dreamcast controller, but seriously dosen't PS2 and Gamecube prevent a monoply?
are the two pages about the PS2 or do they just share the name? I don't speak the language.
I'm confused by all of this, so anyone who kills something in a virtual reality is a murderer? Does this mean the authors who kill of characters are up there with america's most wanted? If not them then are people who kll other people's charecters in tabletop RPG's murderers as well? I'd like to belive people have a better grasp on reality than beliveing a virtual reality as real reality, I better stop those horrible UT Last man standing killing sprees of mine.