Thus in the context of the game, choosing to punish was a very counter-selfish act - not selfish at all, but quite the opposite. That's what makes the research so interesting.
Except that it was a game. Unless real stakes were involved, any inference to people's behaviour in real life is wishful thinking.
Dave.
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All of these will work. Note a variant of #4 was used by Clinton: "I did not sleep with that woman" (thinking of his mother).
All lie detection requires calibration to be even this effective. That means a minimum of 3 yes/no questions before asking any important questions.
This technology is far too expensive and ineffective to happen in the near future. It's just the media cashing in on September 11th again.
Sorry AC, but I'm the one actually DOING the research.
I professionally treat people addicted to many things, but rarely nicotine.
People who smoke are more addicted to the habit than the nicotine. Witness the thousands of people NOT addicted to the Inhalator (pure nicotine).
About 2-3 hours of the Dune movie were cut. I heard Lynch himself hated it.
People who read the book generally like the movie. People who didn't, hate it. The monologue by Princess Irulann at the beginning is crucial.
The 2nd and 3rd books in the series were MUCH better than the first but they really need to do the internal dialogue, as well as close-ups on the body language. If they can get that right, they'll make filming history.
Humour is a subtle quality and benefits from many re-writes eg scripts for The Simpsons, even when it was funny, were religiously scruntinised by the writers for refinement.
Although the Appeals Court looks like it's being paid to let MS off, what MS did is pretty irrelevant.
All the battles that MS are being investigated for are ancient history.
What companies are able to do in the future is surely what this case should be about.
The existing law obviously didn't work. Since the case started, MS have reduced their monopolistic activities by 90%.
The courts should be focussed on making any behaviour which actively prevents competition (tying, changing proprietary standards etc) not just illegal, but easy to prosecute.
Whilst I am really interested in the potential of this technology, I think we might want to remember that we already know that:
1. Your eyeballs and lenses already adapt their shape in response to the visual information you're getting.
2. Some neuroscientists report that upto half the brain is involved with visual processing. In other words, we don't SEE, we CALCULATE. Permanently changing things like contrast might be a bad idea.
3. We don't just have foveal vision, we have peripheral vision too, which to me is more important (why see one thing when you can see thousands?) Laser surgery doesn't tend to improve peripheral vision as much.
4. Whatever's preventing you from having good eyesight is unlikely to be changed with surgery. Hence many people's eyesight starts getting worse again after surgery.
So surgery, being fairly permanent, seems quite drastic to me. I'm looking forward to those multi-function (infrared/microscope/telescope/X-ray!) glasses!
The success of Deus Ex will hopefully make a big difference to the games industry. It looks average, and runs slowly, even on a 1GHz processor. But it's still one of the best games ever.
I say hopefully, because I prefer games which challenge more than my ability to point and click. When games become repetitive they become boring.
AI is another aspect which may need developing for the exact same reasons.
I'm happy for others to give their DNA record if they're stupid enough to do so. However, to give my own DNA makes me a potential slave of ANY future government.
If you haven't seen Gattaca yet, go do it. It's a great film anyway. And it's happening now.
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Thus in the context of the game, choosing to punish was a very counter-selfish act - not selfish at all, but quite the opposite. That's what makes the research so interesting.
Except that it was a game. Unless real stakes were involved, any inference to people's behaviour in real life is wishful thinking.
Dave.
All of these will work. Note a variant of #4 was used by Clinton: "I did not sleep with that woman" (thinking of his mother).
All lie detection requires calibration to be even this effective. That means a minimum of 3 yes/no questions before asking any important questions.
This technology is far too expensive and ineffective to happen in the near future. It's just the media cashing in on September 11th again.
Greed is taught - not inherent. To run a company you almost have to act like this.
The problem exists because the government allows it. The government exists because we allow it.
Our fault.
Faster hardware? Who cares...
I'm still waiting for some decent software.
Dave.
Oliver Sacks book is almost as good as VS Ramachandran's book, "Phantoms in the Brain".
Sacks himself called it 'One of the most original and accesible neurological books of our generation.'
Ramachandran is the world's authority on brain structure, and invented the mirror cure for Phantom Limb pain.
ISBN 1-85702-895-3
Dave.
It IS a real condition, caused by damage to the hippocampus:
http://www.23nlpeople.com/Hippocampus.htm
However, the rote learning bit is sadly BS. Made for a great film though.
Dave.
Sorry AC, but I'm the one actually DOING the research.
I professionally treat people addicted to many things, but rarely nicotine.
People who smoke are more addicted to the habit than the nicotine. Witness the thousands of people NOT addicted to the Inhalator (pure nicotine).
Dave.
How can a substance be addictive in itself? Surely it requires someone to addict themselves to it?
Dave.
PS. Before you mod me to 0, try and at least understand what I'm writing.
I agree, we are very capable of addicting ourselves to anything. The addiction simply results from a short-term biased, usually split-second decision.
To break any addiction (except crack maybe), spend 3 minutes before indulging, whilst thinking about the long-term consequences of your actions.
With computer games, do this every hour.
Dave, http://www.deep-trance.com
About 2-3 hours of the Dune movie were cut. I heard Lynch himself hated it.
People who read the book generally like the movie. People who didn't, hate it. The monologue by Princess Irulann at the beginning is crucial.
The 2nd and 3rd books in the series were MUCH better than the first but they really need to do the internal dialogue, as well as close-ups on the body language. If they can get that right, they'll make filming history.
Dave, http://www.deep-trance.com
Humour is a subtle quality and benefits from many re-writes eg scripts for The Simpsons, even when it was funny, were religiously scruntinised by the writers for refinement.
Interesting note about Kafka btw.
Dave.
Although the Appeals Court looks like it's being paid to let MS off, what MS did is pretty irrelevant.
All the battles that MS are being investigated for are ancient history.
What companies are able to do in the future is surely what this case should be about.
The existing law obviously didn't work. Since the case started, MS have reduced their monopolistic activities by 90%.
The courts should be focussed on making any behaviour which actively prevents competition (tying, changing proprietary standards etc) not just illegal, but easy to prosecute.
For the sake of our ears, we should keep musicians poor. Everyone knows that bands go downhill with too much success.
Whilst I am really interested in the potential of this technology, I think we might want to remember that we already know that:
1. Your eyeballs and lenses already adapt their shape in response to the visual information you're getting.
2. Some neuroscientists report that upto half the brain is involved with visual processing. In other words, we don't SEE, we CALCULATE. Permanently changing things like contrast might be a bad idea.
3. We don't just have foveal vision, we have peripheral vision too, which to me is more important (why see one thing when you can see thousands?) Laser surgery doesn't tend to improve peripheral vision as much.
4. Whatever's preventing you from having good eyesight is unlikely to be changed with surgery. Hence many people's eyesight starts getting worse again after surgery.
So surgery, being fairly permanent, seems quite drastic to me. I'm looking forward to those multi-function (infrared/microscope/telescope/X-ray!) glasses!
The success of Deus Ex will hopefully make a big difference to the games industry. It looks average, and runs slowly, even on a 1GHz processor. But it's still one of the best games ever.
I say hopefully, because I prefer games which challenge more than my ability to point and click. When games become repetitive they become boring.
AI is another aspect which may need developing for the exact same reasons.
We don't need schools to teach kids what to think. That's what commercials are for.
Why not find out something really worthwhile like the correlation between skill at Starcraft and (lack of) success with the opposite sex?
"Not to mention that I have to wear a suit to work, how do I stop it getting seriously creased in my backpack"
Leave it at work.
I'm happy for others to give their DNA record if they're stupid enough to do so. However, to give my own DNA makes me a potential slave of ANY future government.
If you haven't seen Gattaca yet, go do it. It's a great film anyway. And it's happening now.