Slashdot Mirror


20 Factors That Will Change PCs In 2002

bstadil writes: "CNN's tech site has posted a list of the 20 most significant factors that will change the PC in 2002. Its not very technical but it would be interesting to get the take on this from the Slashdot community plus what they think needs to be added."

481 comments

  1. the only factor by donabal · · Score: 1

    i believe porn is the only real factor in shaping technology

    look at the space program ;)

    --donabal

    --
    Safety First Day?
    1. Re:the only factor by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IIRC, porn (or Adult Entertainment, if you prefer) is the first market to make use of tech advances. I've got some old Apple ][ magazines from 1981 and they even feature porn ads. With the number of techies surviving by going to work for porn you can bet the quality will get better, or they'll just become more ruthless bastards at finding ways to launch from email and take over your PC.

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    2. Re:the only factor by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Funny
      i believe porn is the only real factor in shaping technology

      I can hardly wait for IM porn spam

      Sounds like a dream come true.

      --
      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    3. Re:the only factor by Lordrashmi · · Score: 1

      I already get IM porn spam. Over the holiday weekend (friday-tuesday) I recieved 32 porn related instant messages on ICQ.
      BLEH
      it sucks

    4. Re:the only factor by Tackhead · · Score: 1
      > I've got some old Apple ][ magazines from 1981 and they even feature porn ads.

      Ah, "Soft Porn Adventure", which most of you young 'uns remember with graphics as "Leisure Suit Larry!"

      The good old days, I tell ya. (Anyone remember "Bilestoad"? We were doing two-player fighting games with blood spurting everywhere long before Mortal Kombat!)

    5. Re:the only factor by rosewood · · Score: 1

      Well I doubt your parent has ever heard of such programs as "ICQ"

    6. Re:the only factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ripped the new ICQ client off my machine and pitched it.

      What a piece of shit. I'm sorry, it isn't appropriate for an IM client to take over the machine.

    7. Re:the only factor by rosewood · · Score: 1

      You must not know how to change settings then. Even the newest version of ICQ can be made very clean. Also, with the new installer, you dont have to install many of the features that a lot of people don't use!

  2. "The perfect communication device" by reaper20 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think that 1GHz Palmtops, IM, new fuel cells, and that new screen technology could be combined into one super PDA that has been promised since someone uttered convergence.

    The Handspring Treo will replace my phone, my PDA, and my Blackberry. Now there's a something I'd shell out hard cash for in 2002.

    1. Re:"The perfect communication device" by plover · · Score: 2
      Y'know, I used to think this.

      I was ready to fork out major bucks for a Handspring Visorphone, but then I got a PSC scanner Springboard for my Visor. It was only 1.3 oz, but the Visor simply became too heavy to carry comfortably in my shirt pocket. With the Visorphone module it also then becomes too big. (And I have never, ever cared for earphones.)

      A friend has a Kyocera Palm/phone thing. Again, it looks really cool. But as a Palm, it's too small. And as a phone, it's really large.

      And another friend has the Qualcomm PDQ phone/Palm. As a brick, it's about the right shape and size, but as a piece of consumer electronics, it shouldn't have to come with its own two-wheeled cart.

      I have sadly come to the realization that any audio device is going to be unwieldly if it includes an adequate GUI. And vice versa. So, I personally have given up on the Holy Grail of the One True PDA. What I would like to see, though, is how the promise of a Bluetooth phone and a Bluetooth PDA work together. (So far, all I've seen are promises.) But I think if anything is going to make it, it'll be ultra short range communications between two separate devices, each optimized for its own interface.

      John

      --
      John
    2. Re:"The perfect communication device" by GlassUser · · Score: 2

      Why not make something PDA-sized, and use a wired (or bluetooth) headset? It would be doubly nice if you could use it for voice recognition input.

    3. Re:"The perfect communication device" by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      Remember oled screens? That is what is going to be required. Then you can have a fold out screen with a little tiny device. Nothing else is really suitable unless we go with somethine like those goofy Sony glasstron viewer.

      --
      Just a Tuna in the Sea of Life
    4. Re:"The perfect communication device" by HawkinsD · · Score: 1

      I agree. It would go a LOOOONG way if I could look up a phone number on my PDA, and then tell the PDA to tell the phone to dial the number. Or tell the phone: Here, send this e-mail.
      That'd be plenty integrated for me!

      --
      Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by mere idiocy.
    5. Re:"The perfect communication device" by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

      You're just thinking too short sighted. The technology today isn't the stuff that will be around in 10 years.

      In 10 years you'll just have a pencil-thin, transparent band that sits on your ear and extends forward in front of one eye. It will project the image of whatever the GUI du jour is, directly onto your retina, which can make it seem as large or small as needed. It will be able to project stereographically, meaning it will look three dimensional, and it will track eye-movement to determine focus. The earpiece will have a small speaker to give you aural feedback, as well as a microphone for the speech recognition system for more-than-eyesight control. Optionally, you can use a hand driven tactile feedback interface that will really just be a comfortable and nearly-invisible glove, for those quiet places like church.

      Ten years after that we'll all just have chips (although they won't be called that) embedded in our brains that can use all our senses, computing and memory capacity directly so we won't have to worry about any of that peripheral junk. The only real trouble will be making your brain secure so someone doesn't hack in and use it for their own devious purposes.

      --

      --
      Promoting critical thinking since 1994.
    6. Re:"The perfect communication device" by Derek+S · · Score: 1

      Ten years after that we'll all just have chips (although they won't be called that) embedded in our brains "Crisps"?

  3. IDE by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 3, Funny

    And still IDE controllers will only support 2 devices.

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    1. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops, serial ATA may be faster, but one device per controller eats up a lot of real estate on a motherboard!

    2. Re:IDE by djocyko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      frankly, who would want more than 2 devices on a single channel? It would only cause miserable slow down. If you need more than four devices, get an IDE card. The promise 100 is sweet - and an amazingly cheap upgrade (~$30) that will boost system performance significantly.

    3. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rm IDE

    4. Re:IDE by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      So instead of increasing scaleability, they reduce it? WOW, major concept there :)

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    5. Re:IDE by Zapman · · Score: 2

      I would. Life would be much easier (not to mention cabling) if I could just have 1 bus that had:

      1) plenty of bandwidth and low latency
      2) the ability to move data from 2 devices within the bus swiftly and without contention
      3) room for my hard disk, dvd, cdrw, and removable media (that's a VERY standard list).

      And amazingly enough, the technology to do it has been around longer than IDE, and it's called SCSI. To bad the parts are so expensive... :( You can actually copy data from device c to device f on the same bus without killing your transfer speed... More than one device can talk at the same time...

      You ever tried to stretch those silly, 18", ribbon cables from the lower edge of your motherboard to the top devices in your mid-tower case? Let alone a full tower...

      Serial ATA looks nice, and I'll be happy when it arives, but it won't solve the problems I list above.

      --
      Zapman
    6. Re:IDE by SuzanneA · · Score: 1
      Not nessecarily, the connectors are a lot smaller, and no doubt sATA manufacturers will squeeze 4+ bus controllers into single chips.

      1 Device per connector is my biggest gripe with sATA, but it will probably work out ok.

      My second biggest gripe is that they didn't bother to think hard about external cabling issues. sATA doesn't define an external device standard at all, IMO the inside of a PC case is getting too crowded.

      We still have SCSI160 and SCSI320 I guess...

    7. Re:IDE by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Why dont we just have a standard connector and buss for EVERYTHING in the box? Let the box figure out how to deal with it.

      Just plug n go.

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    8. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be really new to computers.

    9. Re:IDE by MacGabhain · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Having more than two devices on a channel only causes slowdown on a broken channel design. I've had 5 drives chained onto an UW SCSI card and benchmarked better data transfer off of them while simultaneously running the benchmark on all five drives than I got from a singe 7200RPM ATA66 drive in my other system. (This was a couple years back.)

      I wouldn't expect most people to realize that, of course. SCSI is, as was noted, really quite pricey. But it's damned fast and doesn't break a sweat being chained. It's unfortunate that it was never able to get into competative price points with IDE and the various kludges that have been made to it over the year. While I don't have the systems to test it, I'd be willing to bet that a fast SCSI II system with the best drives available from 1992 would still blow the doors off of a brand spanking new ATA 100 system in data transfer.

    10. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ATA is a botched standard that wasn't thought out properly. The Master/Slave relationship of drives sharing the bus is rediculouse. I'll hold out for Fire Wire 2.0 drives.

    11. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you need is an old Mac. I actualy have a Spare 8600 sitting here with a 2 gig SCSI 2 Drive and an 18gig ULTRA 2 Wide LVD drive and controller.

    12. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to include your scanner and printer on that SCSI chain.

      Really, the SCSI (Small Comptuer Standard Interface) has been around for longer than any modern PC platform, and it's a big kludge. Serial and parallel interfaces all ty-wrapped together. In the early days a SCSI controller was basically a board with some UART and PIO chips on it.

      But it's cool, it's morphed into a standard where the kludges are deeply embedded and highly integrated, etc. etc.

    13. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't break a sweat while chained.

      It often enough breaks entirely while chained, though. Unless you spend $40-80 on funny adapters and cables and terminators to make it all work right.

    14. Re:IDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because, idiot, there is no 'master/slave' relationship between drives. It's just words. Of course, you'd know all this having read and understood the ATA spec yourself.
      http://www.ata-atapi.com/

  4. Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Brento · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really got my hopes up as I read through it - I thought for once, I would see an article about The Future that didn't say the equivalent of, "This year is really the year when voice recognition will be everywhere." But noooo, they had to say that voice-driven web portals will be one of the Big Things.

    What is it about voice recognition that suckers journalists in every time? Nobody seems to get it: voice recognition is here, it's been here for a long time, it's just that the accuracy isn't good enough. You can't walk up to somebody else's installation of ViaVoice and start dictating a letter without missing a few words in each paragraph at the bare minimum.

    Now they're talking about voice navigation of web sites? Let me get this straight: half of the sites I visit are so poorly designed that it's hard to tell where to CLICK, let alone what I would say if the site was actually listening to my voice. And if I have to read instructions on how to surf a specific site, you can bet I won't bother reading it - or even clicking.

    I didn't bother reading the rest of their Big Futuristic Ideas, but if they're the kind of journalists that include voice recognition, it's not the kind of article I want to read.

    --
    What's your damage, Heather?
  5. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    Heh, I tried a voice control package with my computer and all it would do was Maxamize and Minimize my windows, anything else it just couldnt handle properely.

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  6. Flamebait article by Johnny+O · · Score: 4, Funny

    This ARTICLE should be modded -1 Flamebait

    > Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    [..snip..]

    > Operating system: Some version of Windows (you
    > expected Linux, perhaps?)

    1. Re:Flamebait article by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm an avid Linux user, but I think this is correct; Linux will not have penetrated the desktop far enough to be a major player in 2004. It will probably have made some pretty great strides by then (I figure both GNOME and KDE will be fully useable for newbies by 2003 - and no, they aren't today), but it will take longer than that (if ever) to become the dominant desktop.

      /Janne

      --
      Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    2. Re:Flamebait article by mvw · · Score: 2
      One day we will have nice usuable systems.

      The problems IMHO are more the technologies that are inheritantly proprietary, like media formats or certain netservices (IM, passport, ..) with no popular free alternative.

      Regards,
      Marc

    3. Re:Flamebait article by Kiffer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In one way I agree and in an other I'm anoyed, It said "Your Pc in 2004" . not the average PC, it's fair enough for them to say that the average PC will be using MS windows 2004 (or what ever they'll be calling it) but it seems like they thought of linux and then thought "even people who use it now wont be using linux"
      there where a number of other things in that article that anoyed me ... one thing was sound ... What sort of sound cards will be around in 2004?

    4. Re:Flamebait article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt they meant it that way, it was probably just a poor choice of words. However, I must admit it rubbed me the wrong way.

      I doubt Linux will have acheived world domination by 2004, though. As was mentioned, KDE and GNOME aren't quite newbie-friendly enough yet (though I think KDE is 98% there and GNOME is in the 75-80% range). I used to use KDE, and though I prefer GNOME, I do admit KDE is more ready for newbie users. However, I'm using Debian 2.2, so I don't have the latest version of GNOME (no Nautilus, etc.), when 3.0 goes stable, we'll see how far it's come.

      Hopefully by 2004, though, the XP backlash will be more widespread (i.e., general public, not just us geeks). That trend isn't mission-critical to the sucess of Linux, but it would sure help. In order for people to want to switch from Windows to Linux, we have to present them with some tangible advantage. The open-source component (sad to say) will likely never be seen as that kind of advantage. There needs to be something they want that Windows doesn't have. If that's freedom from DRM, so be it, if it's fancy new programs, that's fine too. Linux has to give them something Windows can't AND that they appreciate. It's not there yet, but I hope by 2004, it will be starting to happen.

  7. MRAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me, or does this sound like a very old technology, or atleast why they seemed to be trying to push it. I'm of course referring to core memory (the little ferrite donuts), whereby you could pull the power and bring the system back up exactly where you were, only difference I can see is price and density.

  8. My wish list by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hard disks that are faster, not bigger. If I need more space, I'll add more spindles. How about giving me a disk that can push 50 or 100 MB/sec from the platters?

    Bring back those monitors-with-built-in-USB-hubs.

    Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

    Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

    A decent NFS client for Win32.

    That's all I can think of for now. I'm not terribly interested about vapor markup languages or 1 GHz palmtops. Give me something I can use.

    dd if=/dev/coffee of=/dev/geek

    --
    I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
    1. Re:My wish list by QuMa · · Score: 1

      Don't solve your problems with scheduling with hardware.

    2. Re:My wish list by Brento · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bring back those monitors-with-built-in-USB-hubs.

      I'm shopping for a new LCD display, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that most of them have a USB hub. I wasn't quite so happy that many have junky built-in speakers, but of course you don't have to use 'em.

      Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week.

      Swing by your local CompUSA. Dual CPU motherboards are now under $100, often well under $100. A quick check of Pricewatch shows that two P3-667's will cost you less than a single P3-1ghz, so the only thing stopping you from SMP heaven is - well, you.

      Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      Well, I can't help you there. At least it's not Microsoft Bob.

      --
      What's your damage, Heather?
    3. Re:My wish list by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Some comments on your wish list:

      1. Hard drives are already pretty fast, especially now with ATA-100/133 IDE connections. Serial ATA will raise the data transfer rate by a factor of six. I do expect quiet 10,000-20,000 rpm Serial ATA hard drives in the next few years, though. For higher-end applications, expect the cost of Fibre Channel connections to come down, which will essentially put an end to SCSI.

      2. Why do you want monitors with built-in USB hubs? I don't find them that useful, especially nowadays most pre-built systems now have USB connectors in front of the system case.

      3. Unfortunately, not that many applications take full advantage of multi-processor boxes (or require their use). It's only with very specialized apps such as CAD/CAM and very high-end image processing that you really need multi-processor computers.

      4. If you're looking for a less patronizing Windows UI, Windows XP's Luna interface is already a step in the right direction. You'll probably see other changes in the next few years.

    4. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      i am dumb so this could be wrong. but i believe if you want a faster hard disk then that automatically happens when you make them bigger. as the data density per platter increases so does the amount of data you can read off it in a unit time. the 10x data density or whatever in the article would result in 10x more speed from the platters (disregarding head seek/access times). assuming an 80GB disk now can do 30-40MB/sec or whatever then the 800GB disk (assuming same number of platters) should manage 300-400MB/sec. a fair bit more than you are requesting.

      but i am dumb so i could be wrong.

    5. Re:My wish list by Junta · · Score: 2

      I would dare say that Luna, if anything is *more* patronizing, that is the whole point. In any event, the My Computer, My Documents, can easily be renamed, if that is such a huge deal...

      --
      XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
    6. Re:My wish list by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Simple :-) High end SCSI U160.

      Many of us have had super speed hard drives for wuite a while now. a 3disk array in a raid 5 arrangement with U160 drives makes anything you can purchase in the stores look like a joke.

      It's here, you just have to spend money on it.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    7. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saddly acad really does not support SMP. The second cpu just idles most of the time, unless you're also doing something else.

    8. Re:My wish list by renoX · · Score: 2

      > Hard disks that are faster, not bigger. If I need more space, I'll add more spindles. How about giving me a disk
      > that can push 50 or 100 MB/sec from the platters?

      Me, I'd like to get rid of HDD entirely: they are slow, fragile and noisy..
      MRAM would be perfect, but I doubt that we will have gigabytes of MRAM anytime soon :-(

      > Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the
      > desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

      You will have "soon" some kind of parallelism on your desktop: it won't be SMP but SMT (or in Intel buzzword-speaking: "hyperthreading").

    9. Re:My wish list by rhost89 · · Score: 1

      Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")


      Rename it, as far as i know (although its been a while, last time i checked) you could, at least on the desktop. I cant help you with changing the taskbar allthough im sure there are tweek tools out there for it.

      --
      I will bend your mind with my spoon
    10. Re:My wish list by denzo · · Score: 3, Informative
      Hard drives are already pretty fast, especially now with ATA-100/133 IDE connections.
      Yeah, the latest ATA-133 interface may be fast (up to 133MB/sec), but the (consumer) hard drives have hardly caught up with it. It's just another one of those big buzzwords that computer salesmen use to make a computer seem like it's super-duper-fast.

      Current hard drives can just about sustain 33MB/sec transfer rates right now, and not very much more. Hard drives are still the bottleneck in our systems, otherwise Windows and the latest games would start up in a flash and you wouldn't have to watch the hard drive light blink for a few minutes.

    11. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > 1. Hard drives are already pretty fast, especially now with ATA-100/133 IDE connections.

      The interface is, but getting the actual data from the disk has barely changed over time, and the seek-time is still in the millisecond range.

      It would be nice if there were disks with multiple heads per platter, distrbuted around the spindle so that they don't have to spin quite so much before they get under a head. If you had two heads on opposite sides of the axis, seek times would be halved.

      The only real problem is calibration between the head groups... but a slightly smaller disk, with say four heads per disk, and thus a quarter of the access time would probably sell...

    12. Re:My wish list by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

      Since the main limitation on the speed of the system is the bandwidth of the memory bus putting eight processors on one backplane ends up a pretty expensive proposition.

      For any given technology the practical limit on the number of SMP processors that it is usefull to put in a box is four. Note that manufacturers have always soild eight and sixteen processor boxes, it is not unusual for these to be slower than boxes with far fewer processors when running realistic processing tasks rather than cooked up benchmarks.

      A good eight way box will typically cost four timnes as much per CPU as a two way box. The answer is to write programs in a manner that does not require shared memory. Then you can go to 1000 processors without hitting the backplane limit. Unfortunately the costs of recoding apps is high and none of the new languages is designed to support MIMD well.

      --
      Looking for an Information Security student project suggestion?
      Try http://dotcrimeManifesto.com/
    13. Re:My wish list by NumberSyx · · Score: 2

      Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

      It is true, as cheap as SMP motherboards have gotten there is no reason why SMP systems are not more available. The choices right now are pretty much, build yourself or buy an expensive workstation. All the first tier OEM's should be selling SMP desktop systems in thier high end product lines ($2000+) and maybe even thier mid range lines ($1200-$2000). Dell did it for a little while with the Optiplex line and some 2nd tier OEM's are doing, like Alienware, but SMP should be more common place then it is.

      --

      "Our products just aren't engineered for security,"
      -Brian Valentine,VP in charge of MS Windows Development

    14. Re:My wish list by CyberDruid · · Score: 1

      My wishlist basically contains one thing:
      Busspeed!
      CPU isn't the bottle neck for any of the normal uses (not for the freaky ones either ;).
      I want my RAM lightning fast, trying to program with the CPU-cache in mind is just awful. All RAM should be that fast. What we need is busspeed that fulfills Moore's Law (they don't, I have seen estimations of doubling every 3 years or so).

      --

      Opinions stated are mine and do not reflect those of the Illuminati

    15. Re:My wish list by Bronster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In any event, the My Computer, My Documents, can easily be renamed, if that is such a huge deal...

      I take it you've never tried to tech-support people who've renamed their My Computer, My Documents, etc.

      Especially not other people trying to use said computers with the 'clever' renamings.

      Most especially not technical-iliterates who really can't handle the idea of thinking about the icons (don't even get me started on themed desktops with both new non-intuitive icons and non-intuitive names).

      Very much especially when you're on a phone line and can't see the other screen.

      VNC + VPN has become my friend for all still-functioning systems. (here, install software from the following Windows share. Set default password. Don't watch my drunken mouse movements over your modem while I fix the password in the registry. Ahh, all better now).

    16. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The speed of the interface has little or nothing to do with the sustained data rate that the drive can maintain across it's platters as todays interfaces are not the bottle neck. Even a fast ATA drive can only saturate a 33MB interface on it's outer tracks. Get near the spindle and you're down to 20-29 MB/s. No IDE drive yet can saturate an ATA66 interface. In all reality, not even the fastest of the SCSI drives could saturate a ATA66 interface if they could be hooked up, but you can at least access multiple SCSI devices concurrently.

      So, ATA100, ATA133 is totally pointless right now, even with two IDE drives as IDE can only talk to one drive at a time per channel. If you really need read performance from IDE, use a mirroring RAID on alternate IDE interfaces.

      Now you want monster read perf, hook 3 X15-36's to a SCSI 160 and run them in mirroring RAID. With an average xfer rate of 52 MB/sec sustained per drive you would saturate the PCI bus capacity of 132 MB/sec.

      We don't need faster ATA interfaces right now, we need faster drives.

      Not a coward, but I did not feel like getting an account.

    17. Re:My wish list by cheetah · · Score: 1

      I agree that hard drives are the fastest they have ever been, but at the same time when compaired to the relitive increase in Cpu speed they are the slowest they have ever been. We may have ide drives that can push 30-50MB a sec but we also have 1.6-2.2Ghz Cpu's. Also, if you think that Fibre Channel is going to replace scsi you are wrong. They are designed to do two different things, scsi is great at filling a Pc with high end drives and Fibre Channel is all about San's. If you try to put together a San using just scsi you will be in a for a nightmare. I would say that it is almost impossible when just using scsi, but I guess it could be done but it would just be a major hack. And I would like to know where you can get fibre channel that works inside a Pc. I know you can get those copper, most use cat5, Fibre Channel adapters, and they work well, but they are not spec and I wouldn't setup a server with them, but I would use them at home. They are just different standards for different applications.

      I totally agree with you about USB hubs on monitors. Not only do many machines now have front USB connectors but by this time next year most of the shipping chipsets will support 3 or 4 USB buses and that gives you 6 or 8 USB connectors. I think that this will remove the need for a USB hub in most cases.

      It is not true that you need an application that supports smp to see any advantage from smp. If you alot of heavy multitasking then you can see a hugh improvement if you have a Smp system. But for the aveage person smp is just a waste of money.

      josh

    18. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      DIY. Right-click, "Rename".

      FURRFU.

    19. Re:My wish list by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      2004 prediction: "Bill Gates' Documents". "Bill Gates' Computer".

    20. Re:My wish list by MSG · · Score: 2

      Hard disks that are faster, not bigger.

      Darn tootin'. In the meantime, use LVM with stripes. :)

      Cheap SMP. I'll take my dual 550 over a single 1 GHz any day of the week. How about 8x500 MHz on the desktop, instead of 1x4GHz which is still crippled by 1 CPU hogging app?

      If your one app is hogging the CPU, then your OS isn't doing its job. I love SMP. Most of my boxen have been SMP systems for several years. However, until *all* of your apps are heavily threaded, they're limited to a fraction of your availalbe processing power. When they are, they'll be able to hog all of your CPU's, instead of just one.

      A decent NFS client for Win32

      Uh... no. Most NFS implimentations suck. A decent client needs a decent server, and there aren't a lot of those available. How about something smarter, like CODA?

    21. Re:My wish list by MSG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For higher-end applications, expect the cost of Fibre Channel connections to come down, which will essentially put an end to SCSI.

      You should be aware that fibre channel isn't the death of SCSI, it's a new life for SCSI.

      Fibre channel is a physical transport. SCSI is a data transport/command set on top of a physical transport (which is also called SCSI). Fibre channel is just going to provide a newer, faster physical transport for the next generation of SCSI devices. Furthermore, SCSI is expensive because it requires complex controllers on the host and on devices. Fibre channel won't change that. As the cost of fibre channel comes down, it'll approach the current cost of SCSI, but won't make them any less expensive.

    22. Re:My wish list by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      How about giving me a disk that can push 50 or 100 MB/sec from the platters?

      RAID can fake that pretty well.

      Cheap SMP.

      That's pretty much here. People have been doing it with cheap Celeries and the cheap ABIT BP6, really good (and eventually cheap) dual Athlon motherboards are probably just a few months away, and dual-G4 Macs (and dual-processor ZIF boards) have been available for quite some time.

      --
      As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
    23. Re:My wish list by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      denzo,

      I think the 33 MB/sec. limitation is based on the fact that most consumer hard drives run at 7200 rpm, unlike the fastest SCSI drives, which spin at around 16,000 rpm (and sound like jet engines).

      Expect that when Serial ATA becomes widely available the spindle speed of most Serial ATA drives--thanks to better noise isolation design for the drive casing--will be more like 16,000 to 20,000 rpm. With pixie dust storage medium coatings on the platters for much high storage density plus spindle speed at least double that of today's ATA-100/133 drives, I expect Serial ATA drives to transfer data more like 125-135 MB/sec. sustained, with short bursts 2-3 times that. Imagine loading Linux (including the graphical UI) in 1/3 or less the time it takes now. :-)

    24. Re:My wish list by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      I happen to be a sysadmin here, and I know what you're saying about customisation overkill. But then, every machine I've had since 1996 has been set up to my liking.

      Every so often, my boss or another I/T person will try to use my machine. Two minutes later, they give up and go elsewhere. It's largely the trackball (why does everybody hate these?) but also the total lack of desktop icons and reorganised Windows Start menu (but my other disk boots Mandrake!).

      GTRacer
      - too tired...

      --
      Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
    25. Re:My wish list by idiotnot · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're running the *same* software....

      Code bloat strikes again!

    26. Re:My wish list by denzo · · Score: 1
      I think the 33 MB/sec. limitation is based on the fact that most consumer hard drives run at 7200 rpm, unlike the fastest SCSI drives, which spin at around 16,000 rpm (and sound like jet engines).
      I agree... it seems that hard drives are mostly dictated by their rotational speed, and I've also noticed buffer sizes help too. I upgraded from an IBM 7200RPM drive with 512k cache to a Maxtor 7200RPM drive with 2MB cache, and it made a world of difference. I would guess there would be a point of diminision return for cache size as well... there are 120GB drives out with 8MB cache, but I would guess that's more because of the higher density platters. But I have noticed no difference between 7200RPM 2MB cache drives going from ATA-33 to ATA-100.

    27. Re:My wish list by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Sure you can rename "My Computer".

      Everybody does that in the long run.

      Sure you can rename "My Documents".

      BUT I FREAKING WANT TO DELETE IT.

      I FREAKING DON'T WANT Word, Excel, PowerPoint AND ALL THOSE OTHER M$ SHIT I NEED TO USE ..... I don't want those shit allways trying to save my documents there.

      Every new document I make forces me to climb through the folders to final save it where it belongs to. Those apps are to dumb to remember where I saved my document the last time.

      Sure, there might be a geeky tool to change some entry in registry or somewhere ... but I have better things to do then to read help files or search tweak tools.

      Next desktop will run Mac OS X (no not linux, sorry, I fully support that Be Guy making his comparision of LINUX, BeOS adn Mac OS X some days ago reffered to on /.) and a Windows Emulator.

      Over the years WinXYZ degraded to become more and more unuseable over the time ...

      I can not even access my old mailbox files from exchange. EXCHANGE.PST and EXCHANGE.OST are just binary garbage and I NEEEEED some of the files inside, any hit how to get them out?

      Regards,
      angel'o'sphere

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    28. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one that gets me furious are those scratch-and-sniff pointing interfaces that (thankfully) seem to have died out, EXCEPT ON THE MACHINES THAT TURD IN THE NEXT LAB USES. He's also fond of the Microsoft Heat-damaged keyboards (sometimes called 'Natural' although nobody I know can sit down and use them in a mixed environment of all varied keyboards.

    29. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember a little over a year ago reading one of the advice column writers at Linux Journal tell someone writing in to just implement Samba to share drives across his Linux and SunOS machines.

      That's right. Use a knock-off reverse engineered Microsoft protocol, because NFS on Linux is (was at the time?) such a disastorous crock of excrement.

    30. Re:My wish list by Bronster · · Score: 2

      Start->Run

      regedit

      Edit->Find

      My Documents

      F3 a few times

      HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur re ntVersion\Exporer\User Shell Folders\Personal = "C:\My Documents\".

      Doesn't look too hard to find to me. I also have a stupid Kodak App that appears to not use this default (though it may read it during install to set it's own current_dir).

      I just had to VNC into my desktop machine at work for Word2000 (don't have Office installed at home - yay for not funding the M$ monopoly), but it was the work of seconds to find [Tools]->[Options]{[File Locations]}{Documents}.

      Don't blame the software for your own laziness in finding out how it works.

      I can see both advantages and disadvantages in having it always start in the same directory, but I think the advantages probably win for software like Word that may people of varying skill level have to use. I get enough *can't find my documents* tech support problems without having it default to a network share on a no-longer-present laptop that a geeky teenager came and f*&$ed over someone's setting with.

      Don't tell me that geeky teenagers wouldn't do that and then rant at their luddite relatives who can't even work out how to change the directory, the lusers.

    31. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well,...

      1) ATA-100/133 IDE refer to burst rates, sustained transfer rates haven't improved as dramatically

      2) Given that my system is hidden under the table, I really would find a desktop USB hub much more useful.

      3) sux doesn't it. You'd think that given we all run more than one app at a time you'd be able to take advantage of multi CPUs

      4) oh. a soft-toy gui.

    32. Re:My wish list by rabidcow · · Score: 1

      It's largely the trackball (why does everybody hate these?)

      Trackballs require fine motion control with the thumb, mice use the whole hand/arm/wrist. Unless you're naturally predisposed for it, trackballs are much harder to use without practice.

      but also the total lack of desktop icons and reorganised Windows Start menu

      Man, I'd hate to see someone else try to use my computer... I've got a VWM, a command box, and keyboard shortcuts. No icons, no taskbar, no start menu. heh. Gotta love LiteStep. (luckily this is my home computer...)

    33. Re:My wish list by Sabalon · · Score: 2

      Why do you want monitors with built-in USB hubs? I don't find them that useful, especially nowadays most pre-built systems now have USB connectors in front of the system case.

      My monitor is right in front of me, as is my keyboard. My case is about 5 feet away behind me. Too many USB devices don't come with long enough cables. By having in on the monitor or keyboard, I don't have wires stretched to their limit. A USB hub would work as well, but this means one less device hanging around in the way.

    34. Re:My wish list by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Less patronizing Windows UI ("My Documents", "My Computer")

      Well, I can't help you there. At least it's not Microsoft Bob.

      My Computer can be renamed, though I forget exactly how, and paths to most common windows folders (favorites, my documents, program files, etc.) can be altered using TweakUI. Recyle Bin is the only thing I haven't figured out how to permanently rename/get rid of. On my Win98 system root C: has just four folders: bin, home, tmp, and sbin. And, of course, Recycled.

      Having seen WinXP in action, I'm not sure that Bob wouldn't have been better.

      --
      I want my Cowboyneal
    35. Re:My wish list by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Man, I'd hate to see someone else try to use my computer... I've got a VWM, a command box, and keyboard shortcuts. No icons, no taskbar, no start menu. heh. Gotta love LiteStep. (luckily this is my home computer...)

      I have the same setup, with the addition of a systray and a minimalist menu invokable with a right click to the desktop. I mostly don't use it for start menu purposes, though, because I launch everything from LSXCommand (CommandAlias's! Woo!) Combine this with some nifty themes, WindowBlinds, custom cursors, and a desktop background that's hard focus your eyes on, and no one else has a chance. I've mannaged to make my family affriad to so much as touch my mouse for fear of it doing something they least suspect.

      --
      I want my Cowboyneal
    36. Re:My wish list by Rysc · · Score: 1

      It's even easier than that. While running the Explorer shell, with the My Documents folder not removed from the desktop (if you did this, just re-add it) right click My Documents on the desktop and get properties. You'll see a path here. Change it to something else, and presto! you have a new system My Documents folder. This can also be done with TweakUI under the "general" tab, along with a lot of other windows path changes. So, it's easy to change even for those who are frightened by the registry.

      --
      I want my Cowboyneal
    37. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Hard disks that are faster, not bigger. If I need more space, I'll add more spindles. How about giving me a disk that can push 50 or 100 MB/sec from the platters?

      You can have 90 MB/s with 4 IDE-disks (each on a separate IDE channel) striped in Linux

    38. Re:My wish list by jo42 · · Score: 1
      > Unfortunately, not that many applications take full advantage of multi-processor boxes (or require their use).

      Not true. I've been running a dual processor PIII box for over two years now (ASUS P2B-DS based). You would find that even simple day-to-day stuff such as browsing, e-mail, document writing and so on feel far smoother on a dual-processor system simply because the underlying OS takes advantage of the extra processor.

    39. Re:My wish list by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      2. Why do you want monitors with built-in USB hubs? I don't find them that useful, especially nowadays most pre-built systems now have USB connectors in front of the system case.

      Ever used a KVM switch? Like to keep your machine somewhere besides on top of your desk or next to your feet? Connectivity away from the machine is a godsend. If I had Apple moved FireWire into their ADC connectors, I'd be ecstatic. I'd get a G-whatever right then and there. I could have the computer out of the way, with a single cable running from it to my desktop. Then, the monitor would be the center of my actual experience as a user. I could plug my keyboard into it and chain my mouse off it. I could hae a FireWire CD recorder on the desktop. I'd still have ports to spare for devices I wanted to use that weren't part of my normal setup. Hook the DV-cam up without going near the PC. Connect a game pad for the occasional emulated game. Unplug and put back in the drawer when done.

      The closest you can get to this experience now is with a USB hub and FireWire hub on your desk. It's not as simple as it could be.

      --
      ± 29 dB
    40. Re:My wish list by Jonathan+C.+Patschke · · Score: 1
      My Computer can be renamed, though I forget exactly how

      Highlighting it and renaming it, just like any other object, has always worked for me.

      Recycle Bin is the only thing I haven't figured out how to permanently rename/get rid of.

      Edit the "default" value in the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-0 0AA002F954E}. Mine's been "Bit Bucket" since Win95. If you pay careful attention to how COM objects in the registry work, and how they interact with the shell, you can probably figure out how to conjure up and destroy these "special" folders and desktop objects at will[1]. It's a really neat (if underexposed) system.

      Note: Slashcode has probably broken that key reference. There are no spaces in it[2].

      I've always liked IRIX's "dumpster", complete with a gratifying th-thunk sound when you drop an offending file into it. However, it'd be really nice if it didn't just behave like a regulal folder (specifically, it'd be nice if it remembered where to restore files to, instead of just holding them).

      [1] This is left as an exercise for the reader. It's documented in MSDN, if you really care.
      [2] Apparently[3], the "lameness filter" now introduces lameness to balance-out the lameness that it previously removed. Hmm.
      [3] Yes, I know the reason, and I think the cure is worse than the disease.

      --
      Pining for the days when The Glorious MEEPT!!! graced SlapDash with his wisdom.
    41. Re:My wish list by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The point is:

      I DON'T WANT ANY "My Documents" Folder.

      I do not like it to be renamedd or moved.

      I like it deleted!

      Gone awy!

      Not used by MS Apps at all!

      I have no "My Documents", my docuemtns a re sorted and filed by the topic they belong to.

      And some are for historical reasons on C:, some on D: some on E: depending which drive I added over time.

      I'm mostly working on G: now. There is the data for my company.

      The only way to work with those Apps in a standard manner is to duplicate an existing document in the desired folder, open that and working with it.

      Just opening Word via the start menu leads to the point where Word offers you to save finaly in "My Documents".

      I simply HATE that. No idea why, but it anoys me so that I get mad when I forgett it by accident.

      There is no point for me in changing "My Documents" to be now "G:\company\contracts".

      Because next day I work on an article for a magazine and that will definitly not be saved n "G:\company\..." at all!

      angel'o'sphere

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    42. Re:My wish list by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Edit the "default" value in the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-0 0AA002F954E} .

      Ahh, excellent. I think my recycle bin shall become tmp, and my old tmp shall be moved into my home directory.

      Mine's been "Bit Bucket" since Win95. If you pay careful attention to how COM objects in the registry work, and how they interact with the shell, you can probably figure out how to conjure up and destroy these "special" folders and desktop objects at will[1]. It's a really neat (if underexposed) system.

      I concur. As awful as the registry is for a lot of things, there are many nifty things that can be done with it. I'd really like to to have a little while (years, probably) with the windows source and a compiler. I'm pretty sure one could produce some really nice different-but-compatible versions of windows with only a relatively few small changes.

      --
      I want my Cowboyneal
    43. Re:My wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...vapor markup languages...


      ROTFLMGDARTFO!!!

  9. Laptops by cxvx · · Score: 1

    Did you notice the last piece of the article about laptops?
    It says "Operating system: windows"
    I never knew that laptops couldn't run linux :)
    No seriously, what ignoramus wrote that article?

    --
    If only I could come up with a good sig ...
    1. Re:Laptops by Publicus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Operating system: Windows

      Price: $2,000 and up

      You didn't read that correctly; The price of the hardware will be so cheap it will be laughable. Windows, on the other hand, will cost $2000 and up. The funny thing is many suckers would probably pay it.

      --

      My Karma was at 49, then they switched to words. All that work for nothing!

    2. Re:Laptops by rob+colonna · · Score: 1

      The assumption of Windows is logical enough on the desktop, but perhaps less so with laptops. Mac laptops have always been competitive, price/performance-wise with Intel-based ones, never more so than today. Besides which, they offer features which Intel notebooks does not or cannot deliver, such as dongle- and antenna- free networking, longer battery life, and instant-on capability with OS X. Couple that with the popularity of the iBook with schools, and their attractive price, and the assumption of Windows on the part of CNN does not look so cut and dried.

    3. Re:Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cry about it, who cares what they say, when you get one put your own OS on it, there is nothing stopping you.
      are you one of those guy's that want to see everything running linux even including the family dog. jeez, get a aibo then and stop trying to ram cpu's and ram sticks up your pet's ass.

    4. Re:Laptops by SaDan · · Score: 1

      I agree, 100%. It makes LESS sense to run some form of Windows on your laptop these days, especially with Windows XP and Windows 2000. The hard drive thrashing associated with these two versions of Windows doesn't help with your battery life, and while the networking systems are vastly improved over Windows 98SE, they still leave a lot to be desired.

      I just bought a Sony VAIO FXA36 laptop which I have dual booting between Windows 2000 Pro and Linux. I see up to an extra half an hour of battery life with Linux doing simple things like running Mozilla and StarOffice.

      I was very tempted to buy a laptop from Apple, but decided to stick with x86 because that's what I know. That, and the price tags were too high.

    5. Re:Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm growing tired of people who don't seem to understand that I'm not going to throw away the hundreds of dollars worth of very usable Windows software and skip over to a totally new OS on a captive proprietary platform.

      No. I am not going to throw away Micrografx Designer, Picture Publisher, Flowcharter. No I am not going to scrap out Cool Edit. No I am not going to buy yet another version of Microsoft Office.

      You can spam us all you want about how wonderful Apple laptops are. They're not compatible with anything that I do with a computer.

  10. They forgot software as a service by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Subscription based Software / Services (games, streaming content etc etc)

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    1. Re:They forgot software as a service by mrfiddlehead · · Score: 1
      That was last year's next big thing. Guh!

      Sheesh!

      --
      :wq
    2. Re:They forgot software as a service by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Yeah but like most technologies/concepts they never take off the 1st time around. Remember MiniDisc :) . 2002 Subscription services will be more widely available to the desktop.

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    3. Re:They forgot software as a service by MrAndrews · · Score: 1

      The MiniDisc only died in North America. In Japan it's thriving (still, somehow). Sony has even come out with a little cable that connects your MD player to your computer so you can download and play MP3s there (and no copy protection... the Japanese are very lax on copyright issues). I bought my in-laws a super-MD player in Japan a year ago and it was bloody cheap for the whole thing plus 100 MDs to go with it. That technology is, I think, one of the biggest oversights we as N.A. consumers have made in a long time.
      The other great technology that they mentioned in the article was 3G, which they failed to mention as existing in Japan already. They said incompatible standards between the U.S. and Europe... but really, incompatible standards between New York and Seattle. By the time 3G finally makes it to most of N.A., the Japanese will have forgotten it's a novelty and come up with some crazy content brilliance for the format. Of course, they have to pay to use land-line phones at home, so I guess it's even.

    4. Re:They forgot software as a service by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Subscription based Software / Services (games, streaming content etc etc)

      Good point. And with them saying that today's 80G hard drives are "already too large for most users to make full use of", what do you want to bet that that 400G hard drive will be utterly useless because SSSCA will have made it illegal to actually store content on it?

  11. # 21? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Your PC/network will NOT be held hostage/for ransom by convicted softwar gangster felons? Happy holidays/GNU year/millennium from all of US, to all of GNU.

  12. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by kubota · · Score: 0

    I think one of difficulties of voice recognition is like handwriting recognition; it is *very* different between languages.

    European languages (such as English, French, German, Italian, Spanish,...) are rather similar one another. However, the world is far larger. The number of vowels and consonants are very different between languages (European, east Asian, south-east Asian, Arab,...).

  13. Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by shoemakc · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Microsoft has made IM a key component of Windows XP: Besides sending simple text messages, with Windows Messenger you can exchange files, conduct audio or video conferences, and collaborate on documents over the Net
    ICQ and AIM have had all of these features for well over 3 years now. Yet another user who never ventured outside of what came on their start menu.
    --
    --an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
    1. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by alcmena · · Score: 1

      Reminds me when IE finally had the ability to block third party cookies. The media when crazy over this new and great idea to protect privacy... then promptly backpedaled when they realized Netscape had that ability in for over a year before IE.

    2. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by BlaKnail · · Score: 1

      Additionally, by claiming the downside is the inability for AIM and M$IM to communicate, the author obvioously hasn't done much homework, or he would have discovered Trillian

    3. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by dillon_rinker · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      Ah, yes...the MSNBCNN disease...

    4. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by *ZiggyP0P* · · Score: 1

      Yes yes yes... I have seen .. every day... that Microsofts IM is a "key componet" of the windows XP.

      What I want to know is how to get rid of the blasted thing. I dont want a process running on my box sucking up my cycles when I KNOW there is no way I will be using it.

      --
      I didn't do it. ;p
    5. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by Faust7 · · Score: 1
      Yet another user who never ventured outside of what came on their start menu.

      And that's why Microsoft may win.

    6. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To disable it just rename/delete the folder its in under Program Files, MSMessanger or something like that.

    7. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I want to know is, when were these glory days of ICQ?

      I tried it not long ago. It has the biggest spammiest client of any of the IMs I have tried. It's got nag screens, it pulls up the web browser at will, and finally one day when I booted up W2K it autostarted over and over and over and over again and the only way I was able to kill it was to uninstall the binaries.

      Was it something other than a crock of shit at some point in the past?

    8. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by AbsoluteRelativity · · Score: 1

      I never had those problems (crashing or nag screens) unless I did something stupid, and I have been using it for over 3 years, and only spammed a few times with in the last year, less then the times I have been spammed in IRC and AOL. ICQ was the internet alternative to using AOL for messaging, when I first started using it, there was no Yahoo IM or MSIM, or AIM for that matter (in order to use aol messaging you had to have an aol account), the other alternative was IRC which really was not designed for instant messaging more so then chatting.

      --
      disclaimer : My views do not represent those of every one else in slashdot.
    9. Re:Instant Messanging - Where has this guy been? by Whelkman · · Score: 2

      All I want to know is, when were these glory days of ICQ?

      1996-1998. By early 1999 people already started migrating to AIM, though most used both at that point. The ICQ99 client killed the interface. Proior clients were lean in requirments and were optimized for memory usage (kinda) and screen real estate (no IM client even comes close to ICQ 97's/98's small screen footprint, about a 2 × 4 inch box). ICQ2000 killed it even more with the obnoxious ads, and ICQ2001 competely broke connectivity with all prior clients except ICQ2000. This effectively killed all the clones, but it left some 25% of their total audience still using ICQ99 or before in the dark, which is probably what AOL wanted.

      These days even I don't use ICQ, though I was with it early on. I can't even send messages to people, and only about two people use it that aren't on other services. If they haven't already, Mirabilis will probably see a decline in "regular" (e.g. the dedicated) users, and by 2004 we'll just see a link to aol.com on the homepage.

  14. What they missed by shawkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Advanced operating systems. Defining technology as a subset of an unresponsive monopoly OS is a waste of time.

    Efficient programming tools. If four programmers could write a better Photoshop in two months and distribute it electronically, then things will change.

    Human factors driven technology. People will buy more stuff that works easily and makes them happy.

    1. Re:What they missed by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      Efficient programming tools. If four programmers could write a better Photoshop in two months and distribute it electronically, then things will change.

      Do you seriously think the tools are what makes this impossible? Ha!

      Don't you get it? The reason why software monopolies and practical monopolies exist is because writing good software is hard. If I took ten random programmers, selected from among all the programmers in the world, and gave them a copy of "I Can't Believe It's an IDE!" they would still be lousy programmers. They'd just write lousy programs faster.

      You wanna talk about changing things in 2002? How about one job applicant-- just one!-- who doesn't give me a blank stare when I ask if they've read Knuth.

      Humbug.

    2. Re:What they missed by babbage · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Efficient programming tools.

      Go back and read Fred Brooks' excellent book, The Mythical Man-Month (original copyright, 1975, 20th anniversary edition in 1995), and specifically chapter 16, "No Silver-Bullet -- Essence and Accident in Software Engineering". If you come across the 20th anniversary edition, also check out chapter 17, "No Silver Bullet" Refired, and the following chapter that discusses which of Brooks' predictions did, didn't, and were/are waiting to come to pass. Chapter 16 is captioned, succinctly,

      There is no single development, in either technology or management technique, which by itself promises even one order-of-magnitude improvement within a decade in productivity, in reliability, in simplicitly.

      Even though that was written decades ago now, it's every bit as true now as it was then. There are no programming breakthroughs on the horizon. Four programmers never will be able to write a better Photoshop in four months, because Adobe has been pouring dozens or hundreds of very smart programmers on the problem for years now, and they've had access to the very best development tools and methodologies available.

      As one very smart and very skilled Perl hacker I know mentioned recently, he *hates* Perl and he *hates* programming, not because Perl is such a bad language -- he doesn't seem to think that it is -- but that even a cleverly idiomatic, high level language like that can't do anything to make the everyday logical issues in programming go away. All it can do is, as much as possible, minimize the burden of having to juggle syntax, implementation details, and high & low level logical issues all at the same time.

      No software development breakthrough has been able to eliminate those problems. Not high level languages, not object-oriented tools & methodologies, not artificial intelligence or expert systems or graphical / icon based programming or fancy debuggers or advanced IDEs or more powerful hardware. None of it has made the essential, intractable problems go away, though most of them have made the ancilliary issues less problematic. As Brooks puts it (emphasis his):

      I believe the hard part of building software to be the specification, design, and testing of this conceptual construct, not the labor of representing it and testing the fidelity of the representation. We still make syntax errors, to be sure; but they are fuzz compares to the conceptual errors in most systems.

      If this is true, building software will always be hard. There is inherently no silver bullet.

      And that about sums it up. You might as well focus on the hardware advances, because Moore's Law is still making it proceed at an incredible clip. But software? It isn't growing any faster than any other human endeavour, which is to say, it's moving slowly and it always will. It's not the software's fault that the hardware is making it look pokey, so please don't ask any more of it [in terms of methodology or technique] than the last fifty years of experience have been demonstrate. Clearly, we're moving ahead as fast as we can, and that means slowly...

    3. Re:What they missed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that Brooks tried to compare hardware and software developement. That's like comparing apples to airplanes. IBM would want him to do something like that because they develop both software and hardware but in reality the two activites are not related.

      Right now we are at the cave man stage in terms of using computers. That's not going to change in the next two years but developing software doesn't have to be as painful as it is today.

      The languages we use today are painful. C++ has no standard libraries worth mentioning. There are no good C++ compilers on any platform. Java is slow and not portable (despite the hype.)

      We don't have good tools to handle programs with over a million lines.

      There is still very little sharing of code. Partly this is because the code is written in different languages. Partly it's because the licenses make code sharing difficult. Partly it's because we don't have good interfaces to use shared code easily.

      These are things that could change. And given enough years they will change.

    4. Re:What they missed by jo42 · · Score: 1
      > There is inherently no silver bullet.

      This is what I tried to enlighten upon the dot-com generation kids when Java began its fad-dom. Didn't get anywhere. They wanted to rewrite all of the world in Java. Now time and experience has, once again, proved me right.

      - Java needs to die - me.

    5. Re:What they missed by babbage · · Score: 1
      Well, yes. All the speed & efficiency of an interpreted language like Perl/Python, coupled with the simple elegance of a low level language like C/C++/Assembler. Brilliant! Where do I sign up?

      I heard a nice quip within the last month or so, saying that all the new recruits in a typical IT department want to redo the world from scratch using their new [untested] tools & methodologies, while all the old guys are quite happy with the way things work now and don't want to change anything at all, including their precious old Cobol.

      Of course, the real way forward will be a blend of something old & something new, and like all [r]evolutions will ultimately look more like what preceded it than not. I don't think there is anything that will make the issues of software development any fundamentally easier than they already are, which isn't to say that it's not worth trying -- it is -- but that misguided hopes of finding this mythical silver bullet are going to be frustrated, always. *sigh*

  15. Markup languages than proprietary binary formats? by kubota · · Score: 0

    If markup languages such as XML will substitute proprietary binary formats like MS Word and so on, it will be very nice!

  16. Something missed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Some time back, I read on theregister about replacing PC bus with a bunch of fiber optics.

    I believe this can turn on faster data than any physical/electrical bus.

    But then every chip will have to have bunch of optical tranceiver/filter built in. As a good effect of this there will be only one physical "wire" capping single fibre carrying say 64 wavelengths, from each chip. Mobo size will be down to 20% of existing...

    I don't believe that won't change the world...

  17. Your comment is helping the terrorists by nethole · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else sick of the 'civil liberties help terrorists' rant? Similar logic will be used to enforce digital rights management. No more music. No more fair use. Just pay per use, and having your keystrokes recorded and used against you whenever the current administration feels like it

  18. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    Standard configuration files for applications which are XML based (like .net applications app.exe.config files)

    Transactional file systems (SQL Server or Oracle based)

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  19. The only thing i was looking for by KingKire64 · · Score: 1

    Was serial ATA and they had it the only quesiton is sure the connection can push 400m/s but.... how fast are these drives going to be? is it going to be the same thing we are seeing with the ide drives? faster interfaces with the same speed drive? Either way i cant wait to see Serial ATA HW.

    --
    "All I can tell the "lesser of two evils" folks is that if they keep voting for evil, they'll keep getting evil."-Lp.org
  20. 802.11x by Jaggar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that the largest change coming in the next few years, at least for laptop users, will be the increasing prevalence of pervasive, high bandwidth wireless networks based on the IEEE 802.11a-g protocols. I have the pleasure of working for one of the few companies that makes extensive use of these devices (we design them, actually), and I can't imagine working without them. When I go to a meeting, I just plug a card into my laptop and go. In the meeting I can bring up all of the relevant documents and data, check my email and stocks, and, most importantly, read Slashdot.

    These technologies will have an even larger impact in academic institutions. At this moment, I know of at least two universities (Carnegie Mellon and, interestingly, Akron University in Ohio) that have essentially omnipresent 802.11b wireless networks. Students with laptops can access the campus network as well as the internet from any point in the university, even the football field.

    I think that this will be the area of largest noticeable change because it is not incremental. We expect faster processors, greater storage capacity, faster busses, etc., but the ability to connect to the internet with a broadband connection from almost anywhere, that will be new and therefore more noticeable. However, even though it is novel, it is implemented with mature technologies that have been tried and tested for several years now, at least in the case of 802.11b.

    1. Re:802.11x by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I'll agree with you on the 802.11x, but laptops?

      I'm inclined to believe it'll be things like cell phones, PDA's, automotive electronics. Perhaps futher down the road and slow to adoption, home electronics (i.e. the totally networked home with microwave, toaster, lights, TV, etc. all accessible by your neighbors hacker kid.)

      Damn, the toast is burned again and Barney keeps interrupting Wallstreet Week!

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    2. Re:802.11x by biohazard99 · · Score: 1

      University of Kentucky has rolled out 802.11b acess across most of the campus as well.

    3. Re:802.11x by jpostel · · Score: 2

      many business grade laptops are shipping with this standard or as a built-in option.

      Toshiba and IBM (and of course Apple) are just a few that offer it today off the top of my head.

      --
      Ummm, Jon, aren't you supposed to be dead...? - Otter(3800)
    4. Re:802.11x by Estragon · · Score: 1
      While I would really like to see this happen, I do not believe it is slated for the next few years.

      It is easy to imagine that a company would put one of these networks in all of its buildings. Or that an academic institution would put one on its campus. This part of your prediction will come true.

      But I do not believe that the ability to connect to the internet from almost anywhere will occur. The killer application for wireless access is talking to each other. How many places are there where your cell phone does not work? Mine works everywhere but the most important place -- my house. I therefore have zero confidence that your "wireless broadband connection" will work at my house (which is the most important place that I want it).

      --

      --
      I rejoice that there are owls.
  21. Computers are going to change (for the better) by Gopal.V · · Score: 2, Funny

    400 gigs and a cloud of dust: AFC hard drives
    well talk about storage problems. I'm having problems filling up my 48gigs.

    I GHZ PDA & 10 Ghz PC
    Allright what about workstations (maybe they'll start GIGIHertz and Mebihertz too)

    LCD Replacement ?
    Let them first replace CRT first

    Instant messenger
    hasn't it arrived here yet ?

    Ah XML it's mentioned
    this is going to be there "leave my files alone" -- Federal employee

    Hyper Threading ?
    Talk about "hype"

    Good bye PCI ? costlier PC's ?

    P2P
    well it rocks (my gnutella !)

    MRAM
    Don't put that speaker near it !

    The see-through PC: TFT computers
    let me see it before commenting

    Distributed Computing That works look at SETI@HOME:)

    10 ghz
    it's good to dream, but this overdid it

    Serial ATA
    bye bye ribbon cables

    E-Wallet
    we'll see more cyber crimes



    well they didn't say Microsoft would change :) !

    1. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by Comen · · Score: 1

      I could fill up 400 gigs like it aint nothing.
      Between MP3 (currently 20 gigs)
      Divx Movies (Currently about 20 gigs now)
      PORN (pictures and Movies for days)
      Video Games (1 gig a install if you lucky now adays)
      I could fill up 400 gigs easy just give me a week.
      Ill dump every DVD movie I got on my pc just for kicks.
      I think it would be nice to have that much space sitting there just so I can abuse it :)

    2. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Allright what about workstations (maybe they'll start GIGIHertz and Mebihertz too)

      Why? Last time I checked, frequency was not in binary form.

    3. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by jd142 · · Score: 1

      I have around 40 gigs worth of mp3's. It was a cd christmas this year, and every cd that comes into the house goes right onto the hard drive. Hell, I've got enought music of my own, I don't need to make illegal downloads.

      MP3 Observer says I have 22 days, 4 hours and 37 minutes worth of music on my drive. And I'm running out of space on my drive. The 10 cd's we gave each other yesterday will take up my remaining space. :(

      What will happen when the all of Buffy comes out on dvd and i want to store them all on my hard drive? (Season 1 is out in a couple of weeks; 3 cd's but only 12 episodes that season.) Good thing I can add 3 more drives to my Promise card.

      Then, when I get my 5 or 6 megapixel camera, I'll need space for all those pictures.

      Too bad I can't just get a SAN with raid and hotswappable drives set up in the living room.

    4. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by hurst · · Score: 2, Insightful

      LCD Replacement ?

      Let them first replace CRT first


      Let them get colors right on LCDs before they completely replace CRTs.

      Ever try to do color work on an LCD? It sucks. Colors change depending on viewing angle, and the viewing angle difference between the center of the screen and the edge is enough to change the color and luminance signifigantly. So chances are, you have your color pallete on the edge of the screen... Pick a color and use it in the center of the screen, and it appears to be a different color! Arrgh!

      I do admit that if you're coding or staring at spreadsheets all day, you can't beat an LCD. In fact, I'm using one now, but when I have to use photoshop, and especially if it's something that I have to print, I find a good CRT-equipped computer.

    5. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by amRadioHed · · Score: 1
      MRAM Don't put that speaker near it !
      Sure MRAM will primarily replace RAM at first, and RAM isn't magnetic, but it will also eventually replace disks too. Those of us who don't accidentally degauss our hard drives on a regular basis should be able to handle MRAM.
      --
      We hope your rules and wisdom choke you / Now we are one in everlasting peace
    6. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember the olden days when 'audiophiles' would buy expensive turntables and only play the actual vinyl record one time, to record it onto a crappy cassette. MP3 brings that backward attitude forward, and into the future.

    7. Re:Computers are going to change (for the better) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With 4 80GB drives at home now, the only problem with space I have is freeing more up.

      The last company I worked for had more than 200 1TB drive arrays. One would fill in about a month. 400GB is tiny.

  22. CNN's Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article of the future is brought to you by the great people of Windows! Try XP today!

    bwahahahahha

    Whoever wrote this article has a perma-hardon to Windows and the XP version.

  23. Ashcroft: All your keystrokes belong to us by nethole · · Score: 1

    I'm suprised no one else has suggested this catch phrase for magic latern yet.

  24. personal data protected by micro$oft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the cant even secure there own OS !
    and im going to let them protect my data ?.
    ok!

    1. Re:personal data protected by micro$oft by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      OS, SQL server, webserver, passport, IE, outlook, etc.

      With integration comes responsibility, well, unless you have a big house in Redmond, the you just issue conforting statements, "It's not too serious, we have it fixed, if people set it up right the first time, if John Ashcroft would prosecute people who report bugs as the criminals they are..."

      Sad part is the cost in time and money in recovering/repairing credit history, identification, privacy, personal data, systems after someone has stolen it thanks to their bugs. Seems like they're ripe for a class action suit.

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  25. Distributed 3, P2P 5, but E-Wallet a 9? by hiryuu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't half tell that the non-hardware concepts got some severe business bias, can we? Gees... I don't want "Presence," that's for damned sure. If I want to be found, I make myself easy to find - so why on earth do I need to be tracked to wireless devices, PCs, cell phones, etc? And the concept of having to "pay" to avoid it? Their comparison to caller ID and the blocking of such is bogus - if I'm calling someone, that's one thing, since I initiated the contact, but, but tracking location and usage? Ick.

    And that's before the potential terrors of an electronic wallet - not that it's a bad concept, but I don't think it should get a '9' particularly when you consider that some monolith or other will be providing the service, and in a nasty, centralized fashion.

    Bah.

    --
    Karma: Excellent, but still won't get you laid.
    1. Re:Distributed 3, P2P 5, but E-Wallet a 9? by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I worked for a company (know basically out of business) that sold a "presence" system. They never got that many folks don't WANT to be found, and so were always over-estimating the market. Almost none of the people in the technical office even turned the junk (follow-me and find-me) on there "assistants".

    2. Re:Distributed 3, P2P 5, but E-Wallet a 9? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think the ratings represent so much a "we like it" factor - but how much impact it'll have on our society, for better OR worse. (Which is probably why they use the term "Impact meter" instead of "coolness rating".)

    3. Re:Distributed 3, P2P 5, but E-Wallet a 9? by hiryuu · · Score: 1
      ...but how much impact it'll have on our society, for better OR worse.

      Point taken - still, I can't imagine that "Presence" will even come to have that kind of an impact, given market forces and the likely consumer distaste for this.

      --
      Karma: Excellent, but still won't get you laid.
  26. Ashcroft: All your keystrokes belong to us by nethole · · Score: 0

    Magic lantern: Major change for all 2002 PCs.

  27. instant messaging by archen · · Score: 1

    When's it coming? Windows Messenger is here already, and its competitors are sure to respond soon

    Gee, thank God Microsoft Invented instant messaging. Since they came up with Hotmail, I guess that means they invented e-mail too huh? (and yes, that's sarcasm - I know MS bought Hotmail out). Well that's what you get from a technical article from cnn

    1. Re:instant messaging by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Well, they actually bought (erm, aquired) Hotmail :)

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
    2. Re:instant messaging by alexmeaden · · Score: 1

      Umm, that's what he said!
      R T F Message.

    3. Re:instant messaging by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Whoops :)

      Posting at xmas is like a shopping spree :)

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  28. Deja Vu? by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    400 gigs and a cloud of dust: AFC hard drives
    "640 is enough for anybody"

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  29. Moore's Law still holding... by Tryfen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's cool? Even Moore's Law eventually gets trumped by the laws of physics. In a few years, the current method of packing ever greater numbers of transistors onto a chip will hit a wall. But a technology called Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography may break that barrier. Intel estimates that EUVL chips will boast 400 million transistors -- about ten times more than the Pentium 4's 42 million.

    Sooooo...
    (42 * 2)^n = 400

    n = 3.3 lots of 18 months

    3.3 * 18 = ~60 months

    60 / 12 = 5 years

    When's it coming? In three to five years.

    Move along people... nothing to see...

    --
    If a square is really a rhombus, why aren't all triangles purple?
    1. Re:Moore's Law still holding... by Comen · · Score: 1

      I love it when people throw equations out in the forums and I just got to take thier word for it they proved thier point for good!
      HAHA sorry I aint to bright i guess.

    2. Re:Moore's Law still holding... by kigrwik · · Score: 1

      Just a slight typo correction:

      Actually, Moore's Law reads like this:
      42*(2^n)

      Not like that:
      (42*2)^n

      <just checking>
      So your computation runs like this:
      n= log (400/42)/log 2
      n # log(10)/log(2) # 3.32
      </just checking>
      (# here is supposed to mean 'not very different from')

      We need Deep Thought to design computers whose computing power is (twice) multiplied by 42 every 18 months ! :-)

      Nice catch, though ! :)

      --
      -- don't discount flying pigs until you have good air defense
    3. Re:Moore's Law still holding... by Tryfen · · Score: 1

      I guess I was just blinded by the thought of all those 42s and the smell of brandy custard!

      Shame on you moderators for modding me up without checking my mathematics!

      --
      If a square is really a rhombus, why aren't all triangles purple?
  30. Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by ellem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For the desktop and laptop the writer(s) stop at 512MB RAM. Why? Why not go Gig? It is the future after all.

    The OS choices were "unfriendly" at best. <Paraphrase>Some form of Windows (What, you were expecting Linux?)</Paraphrase>

    I know I will sound like a madman but I think OSX or a *nix with a good, consistent GUI could easily replace Windows. It has in my house, and we appear to be discussing home computers.

    Good article for someone who hasn't read any tech stories in the past 3 years.

    --
    This .sig is fake but accurate.
    1. Re:Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by Gavitron_zero · · Score: 1

      Yeah, i have 512 right now...and most of the people i know have at least 512...most computers are coming standard with 256...and since people only trust current numbers X2, 512 should be coming up pretty soon as standard.

    2. Re:Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hell, now that EverQuest: Shadows of Luclin has come out the average home computer has AT LEAST 512MB RAM today!

      Someone needs to either tell CNN to look at the EQ recommended label for hardware specs or tell Verant to stop copying Microsoft bloatware practices.

    3. Re:Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by rtscts · · Score: 2
      I know I will sound like a madman but I think OSX or a *nix with a good, consistent GUI could easily replace Windows. It has in my house, and we appear to be discussing home computers.
      This is the same disease the Amiga, Mac and OS/2 users had 10-20 years ago. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, WON'T.

      Yes, it's good tech. No, it don't mean shit.
    4. Re:Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      Ahh, no, 512MB is the working minimum for those (Windows) PCs.

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    5. Re:Specs :: Odd memory and OS choices by ellem · · Score: 1

      My A500 _still_ rocks!

      (damn you, damn you to Hell!)

      --
      This .sig is fake but accurate.
  31. Removable Storage by Wire+Tap · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    That's according to the article, but, I have not used a floppy disk in nearly three years. I took all the floppy drives out of my computers at home, and simply use CDs or CDRWs for all my data transfer needs. They are leaps and bounds more reliable (Ask me about reports on magnetic disks "Escaping" in my bookbag), and are generally just more sensible to use (more space for better presentations, etc). Even with driver issues - most, if not all, new machies are CD bootable, so, voila, you can have all your drivers on once nice CD.

    I don't understand why any (non tech person) would still use a disk (as opposed to a disc).

    --

    Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    1. Re:Removable Storage by oops · · Score: 1

      Here's why I still use a floppy. Some of my clients value the security of their network so much that they refuse me a DHCP connection from my laptop into their system (!)

      So my only means of getting stuff on/off my laptop at a client site is via floppy (or similar - zip drive etc.). Otherwise I can post to my Yahoo briefcase and then download at home.

    2. Re:Removable Storage by SiIverFish · · Score: 1

      Ys, everyone hates floppies, but sometimes we are left with no choice. Say you are installing your new os, whatever it maybe, and it askes for a driver for your nic nard, but the company only gave you it on a floppy. And with out a your nic card you cant go online. Sure, you could go dirve over to a friends house and put it on a cd there, but it would be a lot easier just to pop the floppy in and wait a few seconds. More companies need to stop puttingdrivers on floppies and start putting them on cd's, cds are practically free now.

    3. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the word 'disk' is originally an Americanised version of the British English word 'disc' (ultimately from the latin 'discus').

      in England, even floppies are discs not disks :-)

    4. Re:Removable Storage by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but here, I always learned that the difference between disk and disc was that a disk is magnetic, and a disc is optial.

      --

      Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    5. Re:Removable Storage by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

      Yep, this happened to me at school last month - I had to copy the drivers for my NIC onto a CD using my roommate's computer. But, now, I have everything on CD, and I never have to use a floppy drive again (unless the next time I buy hardware there is STILL a floppy in the mix). I hope manufacturers get their act together soon and start going all CD.

      --

      Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    6. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and you perform bios updates how? FDD's are still quick and easy, alright slow and convient, but they get the job done. Yes I have a CDRW and use it a lot.

    7. Re:Removable Storage by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

      I preform BIOS updates by running the flasher from my hard disk. I used a floppy to do it once and the floppy failed halfway through. Had to send the computer away to have the damage repaired. I hate floppies.

      --

      Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    8. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be a a download your NIC driver here sort of thing. It is good to have several ways into the machine and I have needed a floppy to get in.

    9. Re:Removable Storage by Salgak1 · · Score: 1
      Thus spake "Wire Tap". . .

      I don't understand why any (non tech person) would still use a disk (as opposed to a disc).



      Let's see. . . Legacy Boxes, many of which have CD-ROM drives that are incompatible with some CD-Rs (like the extended "80-minute/ 700 MB CD-Rs I just picked up the other day)



      The sheer waste of burning a 660/700MB CDR to transfer a 1MB or less file. . .and CD-RW doesn't count, not all drives can READ a CD-RW. . . heck, my corporate desktop is a P-III 633, no burner, 64MB. . . . and doesn't read CD-RW (as I found to my dismay, had to copy to home box HD, burn as CD-R. . . )



      The 1.44 floppy still exists, and is likely to exist, for one reason: it's USEFUL. . .

    10. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok people, here's my take: what we need is some kind of memory card reader instead of the floppy, be it a CF, SC, SD or MMC reader, and have it automatically recognized by the bios so we don't need drivers for it. Than we'll get rid of the floppy.

    11. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course you could use a system with decent plug and play that would at least get the NIC functioning, even if only at the most basic level, without any extra software. But you get what ya pay for...

    12. Re:Removable Storage by theEd · · Score: 1
      "At present, few scientist foresee any serious or practical use for atomic energy. They regard the atom-splitting experiments as useful steps in the attempt to describe the atom more accurately, not as the key to the unlocking of any new power"
      - Fortune magazine, 1938

      Let the fortune tellers, mystical card readers, and alchemists make their predictions, in a feeble attempt to glorify themselves and stroke their own egos. If it will make them feel better and sleep well at night, so be it. I think we all know who will be right in the end.

      Besides, my vote is for a 5.25" floppy drive. *ha ha ha*

      --
      "And now you shall learn the secret of boot to the head"
    13. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like using it to piss off Apple zealots.

      They piss all over themselves at the thought that it still exists, and that I can still hand them data on one and laugh while they scramble around the office to find the single USB drive we have that will read them.

    14. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      be it a CF, SC, SD or MMC reader,

      Well, there, you've listed a whole bunch of the reasons why it's a problem.

      No matter which one of the above formats it reads, you'll have data on one of the others you need to get to.

      Sorry. I like the fact that CDR disks are 20 cents and floppies are that price too. They're both standards-based, and more importantly, they are widely available.

    15. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You're obviously not using Windows, are you? Installing Win2000 requires 4 floppies, and you're definately going to need that floppy drive for the recovery floppy when Win2K thrashes your hard drive. Plus, Win2K doesn't include drivers for no-longer manufactured 3Com Ethernet cards, so you'll need that floppy to load the NIC driver from. And yes, Linux has a recovery floppy too -- it just takes only 1 floppy to install instead of 4. (Yes, you SHOULD be able to boot off the CDROM, but in practice, installing both Win2K and Mandrake 8.1 on all my PC's required a floppy!)


      I agree, non-technical people that buy their PC's with everything pre-installed probably don't need a floppy. I built my own PC's from scratch; beleive me, I put a floppy in all 5 of them.

    16. Re:Removable Storage by rabidcow · · Score: 1

      Legacy Boxes

      These don't count for new computers for home users. Typical home users have one computer, and this is it. It's useful for some people (me, for example), but not most.

      The sheer waste of burning a 660/700MB CDR to transfer a 1MB or less file. . .and CD-RW doesn't count, not all drives can READ a CD-RW

      Now that's a shame... current drives should be able to read CD-RW.

      Personally, I usually use ethernet to transfer files, but the many home users don't even have the problem to begin with.

    17. Re:Removable Storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "
      I like using it to piss off Apple zealots.

      They piss all over themselves at the thought that it still exists, and that I can still hand them data on one and laugh while they scramble around the office to find the single USB drive we have that will read them.
      "

      Sounds like a real efficient and friendly shop you're running over there. Are you hiring?

  32. 2003? Try 2004+ by Garfunkel · · Score: 1

    Wasn't the article supposed to be the things that will change PCs in 2002? The whole article was about what will change in 2003 and beyond. Their computer specs even said 2004.

    Anyway, I should have quit when they mentioned digital nirvana. I can't stand that term.

    --
    -jay
  33. 2002? by alexmeaden · · Score: 1

    Is it just me that noticed that most of these technologies are not expected for three or four years? It seems to me that they were stuck for new things that would actually come in 2002.

  34. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2
    The only thing I can think of that would drive voice-driven navigation is access to the web through cell phones. Of course, there are a lot of other problems (screen-size anyone?) to overcome as well.

    Still, I could see some use for a voice-driven interface to a web-mail portal, so my phone can read me my voice mail, and for things like news and stock quotes as well. Of course, these things may already exist, and I've just been too Neanderthal to figure out how to do them from my cell.

    --
    You can only drink 30 or 40 glasses of beer a day, no matter how rich you are.
    -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
  35. No mention of security by ruvreve · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I saw no mention of security improving. I realize that the hardest part of maintaining a secure environment is making the 'user' comply but there HAS to be a better way of protecting people from themselves. Sort of like if a burglar trips and breaks his leg in your house he can sue you.

    I mention security because of the "Presence technology" that was discussed. If somebody can get ahold of my network identity and then use that identity to pinpoint my location we could have a whole new wave of identity theft. Not that I have thought it over much but knowing exactly where somebody is opens up a whole new set of opportunites for exploit.

    White collar criminal -**- Signing Off.

    1. Re:No mention of security by snatchitup · · Score: 1

      And, you didn't even touch on the new security concern of all Western civilization. Bio-Terrorism.

      I think 2002 will be the huge year for gadgets that go with your computer to do things such as Performing a generic spectral-scan of something, then sending the sprecto-gram over the Internet to analyse it for the Bio-Threat Du Jour.

      People more and more are going to want to know what they are coming in contact with.

    2. Re:No mention of security by ruvreve · · Score: 1

      I missed quite a few different security topics but one can only post so much while waiting for another email to arrive.

    3. Re:No mention of security by Kirruth · · Score: 1
      2001 saw the coming of age of the full set of free-to-use security protocols for the Internet, including IPSec (IPSec, network layer encryption), OpenSSL (Transport layer encryption),OpenSSH (application-layer encryption) and OpenPGP(file encryption). Each one of these now has one or more solid open-source implementations. I'm hoping next year these protocols start to become built into mainstream apps.

      If Microsoft can stop issuing apps which are holier than the pope, and build these protocols in without any of their usual embrace-and-extend nonsense, and if the Feds can keep their noses out, we might actually get somewhere with network security.

      Yeah, I know, "keep dreaming". But I do, you know.

      --
      "Well, put a stake in my heart and drag me into sunlight."
    4. Re:No mention of security by jo42 · · Score: 1
      > full set of free-to-use security protocols

      Still doesn't stop bad code from buffer overflow and the like. In fact, the more features and protocols that you do add, the more likely something will have a security hole in it... :)

  36. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by nmos · · Score: 1

    Back when I was using OS/2 I found the voice navigation on the web to be pretty good. I never really found the dictation that usefull though.

  37. Where M$ want him to be? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He's been there where M$ want him to be... never knowing he needed it until he got it right in front of him. Him and the great crowds like him is what will give M$ the IM monopoly too, because "everybody else" will be on messenger. Yet another blatant case of M$ extending their monopoly, but I don't suppose that rises any eyebrows here because it happens so often, and nowhere else either because they don't care, in particular the Justice Dep.

    Kjella

    --
    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  38. Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I guess they are kidding: 512 MB DDR RAM is nothing, even by today's standards. I guess people will hit the 4 GB limit on traditional x86 desktops even before the end of 2004.

    There's a rule that today's hard disk capacities are RAM capacities in five to seven years. By this estimate, we're going to hit 4 GB during 2003, I suppose.

    1. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by mrfiddlehead · · Score: 1

      And, by extension, that means 100GB of RAM between 2006 and 2008. How much RAM is reserved for the linux kernel ...

      --
      :wq
    2. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by MattRog · · Score: 1

      I have 512MB DDR now and it's great.. But seriously Windows 2000/XP doesn't 'need' more than 256MB or so nor could I discern a difference between 256MB (on my laptop) and 512. Linux runs great as a DB/web server on my PII400 with 384MB.. Even 4 years ago I was using 128MB with no probs. Why would the average home user need more than 512MB? Even with the eventual Windows bloat I highly doubt 512MB will be 'needed'.

      --

      Thanks,
      --
      Matt
    3. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I have 512MB on my PC at work and constantly run out of memory because Office 2000 has so many memory leaks. With quality such as this people will want more memory so they can open one more word document. (Why is is that 4 meg of data translates into over 200meg of memory?)

      As for Linux, it runs great in 64 Meg!

      Seriously, though, as more people get into fatter media (Audio/Video) memory use will skyrocket. Even now, digital camcorders are available, but to do anything with them you need some serious memory. I'd think with the lean memory usage under Linux it'd be a natural to tap this consumer segment (home video editing and burning of DVD's)

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    4. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moores law also applies to microsoft windows minimum spec requirements. That's why we will need 4 gigs of ram just to boot windows XP version 3 without any apps running.

      Niz.

    5. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by MattRog · · Score: 1

      I guess I don't notice the Office2000 leak or it doesn't effect me that much. Then again, I only run Word 2000 to spell-check my forum/slashdot posts so perhaps I'm just not running it enough to notice the leak? But you're right that as more and more people like to download movies off of Morpheus, edit their home movies, and open 70MB images in Photoshop more RAM will certainly help.

      --

      Thanks,
      --
      Matt
    6. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by bzbb · · Score: 1

      I have 768 Megs of ram in my computer, pc-100, and currently, with a winamp, an opera and a aim running, I have 500 megs unused. however, my games load nice and fast.

      --
      The coffee god lives!
    7. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      All I can put in my laptop is 128, running 64 atm, but open one ~500k jpeg in Adobe Photodeluxe (freebie w/laptop stripdown of photoshop) and it'll use it all and start paging. Sad. That's windows code for you.

      --

      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    8. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by WNight · · Score: 3, Informative

      Worse than that, why does ~100k of text and formatting bloat into a 4mb .doc file? The fact that it then takes 200MB to load it is to be expected after that.

      And ugh, have you ever output to .html from word? Not only is it completely *not* compliant HTML, but it's so very redundant... In a way that a 1st year comp-sci student could fix too.

      Ugh.

    9. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by MisterBlister · · Score: 1
      Well, once Windows is loaded (or Linux for that matter), you usually run applications or games on top of it. These games/apps will grow to fit available RAM.

      One thing I can point you to already is the new Everquest expansion. It requires 256MB, and runs like crap with anything less than 512MB. This is mostly do to extremely poor programming, but its probably a sign of things to come.

    10. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by tempmpi · · Score: 1

      Well, 640k is enough for everyone. Isn't it ?

      --
      Jan
    11. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > Well, 640k is enough for everyone. Isn't it ?

      s/k/M/

      At least, that's the argument some people seem to be making.

      --
      Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
    12. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much RAM is reserved for the linux kernel ...

      None. Get a clue.

    13. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by jonearth · · Score: 1

      we're going to hit 4 GB during 2003, I suppose.

      Yes, but Windows needs 2GB of RAM to run that time...

    14. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by Whelkman · · Score: 2

      Not a direct reply to your statement, but it's related to this and other statements in the thread.

      If we all went by the idiom, "the average person will NEVER need more than X," then we'd still be shipping 450Mhz CPU, 128MB RAM, Windows 98 desktops. We aren't obviously, and haven't in a while. Several factors lead to this:

      1) What are they doing? Your wimpy 450MHz doesn't look like much compared to his dual 8 GHz. The fact that his will actually cost less at that point doesn't help much.

      2) Cost less? Yes, because (grossly) obsolete technology is always more expensive to produce since it relies on obsolete manufacturing methods. Furthermore, less demand also inflates price.

      3) There is ALWAYS something to do with a new PC, and there is never an exception. Encoding DivX movies using today's PCs is like using a 1996 computer to encode MP3s. Editorials are complaining about the XBox not having 128MB of RAM and that's a dedicated game console. Games aren't going to decrease in requirements, and 1GB will be required to run that latest game to the fullest by the end of the year. Developers don't like waiting hours for their large source to compile, be it C or frames of computer rendered animation. In short, until we have that fabled LCARS thing that knows what we want before we want it, computer growth will not falter.

      Anyway, since standard RAM configurations double about every two years (from 256K in 1982 to 256MB in 2002), 512MB doesn't seem like *too* low an estimate for the average machine 2004, though I have a feeling that will be more of a low end model. 1 or 2 GB seems more reasonable with the 4GB for power users.

    15. Re:Only 512 MB of RAM in 2004? by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Pfft! I've had 512MB of RAM in my SMP system for about two years now. Upgraded to 2GB when Fry's started selling 1GB DIMM sticks for just over $100. And 155MHz 256MB DIMM sticks for $16 a piece - bugger me.

  39. "Passport" makes the list?? by ConsigliereDea · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My hope is that the people who were polled to come up with this list were rating the Microsoft Passport with "Impact meter: 8" as a warning, not a subtle endorsement. The Presence Technology rating of 7 scares me. I don't want people to be able to track my every move, and shouldn't have to pay for the right to be left alone. Isn't this a little to close to the conspiracy theory of the government implanting chips at birth? I have never been one to take that sort of thing seriously, but I want to know I can keep on eating and breathing technology without some hacker knowing my life.

    1. Re:"Passport" makes the list?? by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I will not endorse the Passport for many reasons (proprietary, MS platform only, database owned by M$, etc). But I definitely do support some kind of identification on the net based upon private/public key technology preferably stored on a secure device (eg, smartcard). Can you imagine not having to remember a password ever again, or at most 1 password to unlock your smartcard.

      I cannot believe that in 2002 we are still securing our networks with username/passwords written on sticky notes stuck to monitors.

  40. actually, your comment is helping the terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People like you will give in to anything anyone who runs a government agency will say, as long as it protects your precious physical security.

  41. Arapahoe can prioritize? by Publicus · · Score: 1

    Arapahoe can employ from 1 to 32 lanes; each lane consists of a pair of wires and can shuffle more than 200MB of data per second between the CPU and add-in cards or integrated parts. Arapahoe can also prioritize data, so that, for example, real-time streaming data is processed faster.

    Why does this worry me? Why do I think some companies will be able to prioritize their content and others won't? Is this type of thing usually open or is it like most hardware where open source folks have to figure it out the hard way? I'm sure time will tell.

    --

    My Karma was at 49, then they switched to words. All that work for nothing!

  42. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by homebru · · Score: 3, Funny
    What is it about voice recognition that suckers journalists in every time?

    They're writing about what they see as most important. You need to remember that reporters/journalists/comentators in the print media want desperately to be in the non-print media (radio / tv). And to those in the non-print media, their voice is the most beautiful thing in the world. It's no points for content or relevance and full points for inflection and intonation.

    With voice being that important (at least sub-consciously), of course voice response gets played up.

  43. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Brento · · Score: 1

    You should try TellMe. It's a free service that does news, stock quotes, sports scores, gets taxis, and more.

    --
    What's your damage, Heather?
  44. Laptops... by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

    Again, I disagree with the things said about Laptops:

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD; some form of CompactFlash card

    Why on Earth would Laptops come with CompactFlash card readers standard? The article makes no effor to explain this unseemly turn of events, and I can't figure it out. I love CompactFlash, as I am in love with all solid state media, but I really don't see why it would be a standard for removable storage, if SIMPLY because, right now, only once device can interface with it concurrently without the other data being raped.

    Secondly:

    CPU and RAM: 2- to 3-GHz chip with 256MB of RAM

    What are they THINKING??? I am fine with the chip expectations, heck, we might be even farther along than that, but, really, only 256MB of RAM? I don't think so. Whoever wrote this article must be behind the times a bit, as some Laptops can come equipped with that much RAM now. In two years, if engineers and designers haven't found a way to (economically) pack at least a gig of RAM in a laptop, I'll be very suprised. With all the demanding data processing going on (Hey! 3 GHz chip!) there is a _need_ for more of that precious RAM.

    Methinks the writer of this article is a bit confused with some of his points. If he is right, in two years, I'll eat my shorts.

    --

    Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    1. Re:Laptops... by Treylis · · Score: 1

      Given that I'm writing this on a laptop with 512MB of RAM at the moment, I'd like to point out that the future is now in regards to having a gig of RAM in laptops... and, really, it's economically feasible, as well.

  45. Wireless Campus by ruvreve · · Score: 1

    Purdue University has implemented a limited wireless network. Any engineering student can register for it and it is available when you are near the engineering mall. The school of technology has also begun to deploy wireless networking but they are still too security conscience to give people pr0n while in class.

    As for the rest of campus *ahem* school of liberal arts, they aren't worthy.

    1. Re:Wireless Campus by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

      CMU's Campus (Carnegie Mellon) has a wireless network on the entire campus. Very neay to be anywhere on campus using the internet. The potential for outdoor LAN parties is limitless. :)

      --

      Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

    2. Re:Wireless Campus by MattRog · · Score: 1

      Miami University in Oxford, OH also makes extensive use of 802.11b. It's in most of the admin buildings and quite a few academic buildings. It also lives in all the libraries and extends to the surrounding outside areas (as if anyone could read their laptop LCD outside anyway :))

      --

      Thanks,
      --
      Matt
    3. Re:Wireless Campus by vtechpilot · · Score: 1

      Add Erskine, a small private Methodist Church backed university in Due West, South Carolina to the stack of schools with a campus-wide wireless network. Honestly they are someone I'd never expect to see on the list of wireless schools, but they are. (My little sister attends and when I visit I am surprised to see students sitting on lawns computing away.)

      Another surprising issue at Erskine is that they didn't ban Peer to Peer networks. They just changed their policy to read bandwidth intensive applications (Such as P2P, or downloading Linux distros) should only be done between 9PM and 6AM when network demand is at a minimum. (That is not the exact wording of the policy but you get the idea.) Me thinks Erskine actually has an IT department with a brain, or the school has leaders smart enough to let the IT department make IT decisions. Either way Erskine is setting a great example for other schools.

      --
      Slashdot is an anagram for Has Dolts, and I am Dolt number 468543
  46. Instant Messaging vs. Network Security by EaglesNest · · Score: 1
    The most significant impact for me will be next generation instant messaging.

    I love Peer-to-Peer networking, and it only makes sense for IRC to evolve to instant messaging to evolve to peer-to-peer. What frightens me is the security implications given the convergance of several factors. First, the click and drool crowd will soon have unlimited access to other click and droolers. Second, AOL is going out of its way to try to give users the power to install and use its product despite measures such as blocking ports at the firewall. Third, traditional virus protections currently have been designed for an e-mail architecture - they also do not appear to apply the same scrutiny to quiet back doors or grappling hooks as they do to louder, cruder viruses.

    What options does the administrator of a large collection of LANs have when he doesn't have any direct control of the policies of how each LAN sets up their users and workstations. What policies can he apply to the network at its internet perimeter?

    Perhaps there is no adequate answer. It may be that the network must remain stupid, end-to-end, and the only security possible is at the desktop. Does this mean that we must require every person who has a computer to attend two weeks of security training every year? The option choice appears to be to suffer back doors, malicious keyboard stroke loggers, and routine virus outbreaks.

    1. Re:Instant Messaging vs. Network Security by tweek · · Score: 1

      I agree with what you said about applications going out of thier way to bypass firewalls. I'm finding it more and more frustrating to block filesharing apps that constantly want to go out on port 80 because they know it will be open. I've resolved myself to blocking access to entire class C's owned by companies like musiccity and napster and the ip addresses of the main gnutella routers.

      --
      "Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
    2. Re:Instant Messaging vs. Network Security by platypus · · Score: 2

      I know that problem...
      Out of curiosity, have you thought of proxys + DMZ? Are the clients in your network too diverse?

    3. Re:Instant Messaging vs. Network Security by tweek · · Score: 1

      Unfortunatly that won't work either. The company I work for is a software testing lab and many times the testers get applications that require unfetered access to the internet. At that point, we move the tests outside the firewall. Sometimes I'll open ports on a case by case basis for the period of testing and then close them off afterwards. The only real sort of application level proxy I have is a big ole Squid box on our DMZ that the firewall forwards all web traffic to. Typically that breaks most filesharing stuff that wants to use port 80 and I get better regex mapping with squid than I do with ipf (read: none).

      That also answers the question about restricting what software users can install. I can't do that because, again, they are installing software all the time on various machines. The only upside is that I've become a master at one-click (screw you amazon!) reimaging processes. ;)

      --
      "Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
    4. Re:Instant Messaging vs. Network Security by platypus · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your answer. I have similar problems.

      And as nice as xml-rpc, soap, webdav and anythingelseunderthesun-over-http is, soon nobody will be able to be sure what really passes his DMZ config.

  47. Applications! by defunc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The article seems to be focused on hardware. Rather, it should have been on future applications taking advantage of these new and powerful hardware/interfaces.

    People want stuff that they can use everyday. Having a PC with software that uses voice recognition and learn my pattern usage is what I really want. I don't want to have to mess around anymore with DLLs, the registry, LD_LIRBARY_PATHs or .conf files. Applications should learn on how to adapt to my usage and fix themselves when broken. How about an instantaneous boot up people. My g4 with osx wakes up in 5 secs. Boots under 2 mins.

    The idea of HyperThreading will create a new breed of applications, both on the client and server side hopefully. The hope of having a reatime application on my desktop is very appealing. No more me waiting for the application to respond to my command!!!

    --
    .defuncrc
    1. Re:Applications! by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Adaptive user interfaces are comming.

      HyperThreading, we need SMP (Symetric MultiProcessing) to take advantage of all this concurrency otherwise this will be the largest bottleneck.

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  48. price by MoceanWorker · · Score: 1

    Price: $1,500 to $2,000

    By 2004, we'll definitely be out of this recession and business will be running back to normal... i assume... but would that still really start to drive computer prices up again?

    i remember before your typical desktop PC was about $2000+ for a big name computer... a computer with those specs will not necessarily cost $1500-$2000.. you could probably build it yourself for (what i'd assume) about $1000... processor prices, RAM prices, video prices and HD prices are all dropping... some by a huge percentage... and i'm assuming in the future LED monitors are gonna start dropping too... you can already get a 15 inch for what? $300?

    only thing on their i see that might actually be worth its price is the DVD rewritable...

    plus if you take Windows out you'll be saving yourself another good $100+ ;-)

    --


    "The ones who dont do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down" -- Henry Rollins
  49. wrong x 20? by thogard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look at the price...
    PC's are commodity items of last year. If people can't buy a computer for $500, they won't be paying 4x that in 2004.

    OLED? When they start to come out the LCD people are going to get very nervous and they have much more room to play on the price cut front. Result, OLED meet ch 11 and its back to LCD.

    IM? Thats too much like peer to peer file sharing for the media folks. I predict M$ will get its self in court with the MPAA people as well as RIAA within a year.

    Wireless? Why? The last stuff that was rolled out is a hackers dream. You think large compaines are going to try it again? Other than the cool, look I can do ____ from the other side of the room, whats it worth to most compaines? No one is spending on toys anymore.

    XML? TLA for the decade. Its going to be here for a long time. Much more difficult to parse than most text files and this looks like a cool idea to thouse who didn't understand why we have LALR grammar.

    Multi-threading made faster. Oh joy... how many programs do I have now that are multi-threaded. Most users are more than happy with the spell check thread running under word and about 90% of applications thread well.

    Magnet bubble memory is back... one more time its going to be the best thing since sliced bread. Its cool to be able to put the same 64mbyte card in my camera and my mp3 player but my rio seems to be having problems with its 1st sector as its fash has faded.

    Fuel cells will be great if they don't get banned by the local fire marshal. I figure with H2's bad rap (think Hindenburg), all it will take is one accident and this will be baned in some major city. Then others will follow.

    Voice portals... One more thing to strangle... too bad I can't put my hands around the things neck.

    Smart cards are great. Now its difficult to get a magnetic card writer (who do you know that has one). Now everyone with a PC and the balls to walk into a Tandy shop can get what it take to reprogram some smart cards. The CPUs are too slow to do meaningful crypto and as the cable TV compaines have found out, there are people who can tell you the circut thats sealed in that thin plastic. My bet is smart card fraud will exceed US$500 by Dec of 2002.

    G3? is this Gimik 3? DoCoMo will finaly get its act together, get live porn to phones in Japan. G3 will be dead anywhere they can export to or thouse parts of the world that don't have the guts to drop dead tech that isn't going to work.

    Digital Cameras with more pixels. Ever try to explain to Mom why the screen can't show as many dots as the camera took and why good 35 mm fill is still 20000 lines of resulution while the overpirced camera has a few thosuand? What I want to know is why can't these $300 cameras have a lense better than a $10 disposable camera?

    1. Re:wrong x 20? by mrfiddlehead · · Score: 1
      Fuel cells will be great if they don't get banned by the local fire marshal. I figure with H2's bad rap (think Hindenburg), all it will take is one accident and this will be baned in some major city. Then others will follow

      Gha! Someone wasn't happy with Santa's visit.

      The same way they stopped building automobiles the first time someone was killed by one. Or how about an automobile crashing into a small hotel and igniting its supply of natural gas. That would convince everyone to stop using methane as a source of energy now wouldn't it.

      The fatality rate in 1999 for automobile accidents was 14.2 per 100,000 in the YooEss. That's 42000 people and that's a lot of bodies if you pile them up. You'd have to have one hell of a lot of notebook fires to kill that many people.

      Okay, I don't even know what my point is ... fuck it.

      --
      :wq
    2. Re:wrong x 20? by rikkards · · Score: 1
      Fuel cells will be great if they don't get banned by the local fire marshal. I figure with H2's bad rap (think Hindenburg), all it will take is one accident and this will be baned in some major city. Then others will follow.

      I can understand the concern about hydrogen but then someone needs to point out that gas can be just as flammable as Hydrogen so they may as well ban cars in general then we can all run aroung on Segways (hmm maybe the inventor knows something that we don't....)

    3. Re:wrong x 20? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can put out a cigarette by dousing it in liquid gasoline. When a tank of gasoline is ruptured at room temperature it doesn't expand out into a combustible cloud.

      Those characteristics do NOT apply with hydrogen.

    4. Re:wrong x 20? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      smart cards are an asenine idea from day one. an iButton (www.ibutton.com) is better ,cheaper and durable. The reader costs $15.00 pre-packaged or free if you hack one together and write the device driver to use a serial or parallel port pin.

      Only morons use smartcards.... Oh look at who is using smartcards in their products.... GRIN
      I have a ring on my finger that opens my front door, logs me into my computer, starts my car (my harley too if I would have bought that one that had ibutton support) stores all my passwords and logins for about 30 different websites so I dont have to have them all the same, my bank accounts numbers and information, my public and private PGP keys and has room for a Java interpeter to run java apps on the ring. Oh and it has built in RSA security, cannot be opened to be scanned (opening the device starts a super rapid zeroization) and can be recovered if my body was sent through a wood chipper.

      Can a smartcard do that? nope, and it never will.

    5. Re:wrong x 20? by thogard · · Score: 1

      Cars already exist. Their product liability is well defined "Whats good for GM is good for the US". With modern product liability you could not introduce many existing products today such as silverware, fans, bicycles since the lawyers would take all the profits.

      The Hindenburg went splat and it killed off that form of transport and killed many hydorgen based concepts. I don't expect reality to change that in the future since its rather inmaterial.

    6. Re:wrong x 20? by Angst+Badger · · Score: 2
      XML? TLA for the decade. Its going to be here for a long time. Much more difficult to parse than most text files and this looks like a cool idea to thouse who didn't understand why we have LALR grammar.

      Thank you, thank you, thank you a thousand times for burying the sword of computer science up to the hilt into the lard-filled cranium of corporate IT. Hurt them some more, please!

      Don't forget the other major drawback of XML: it's enormously redundant. (For those who didn't understand the LALR reference, please add the Claude Shannon to your reading list once you're done with the Dragon Book.) More than a few large corporations are upgrading their network capacity to handle the demands of bandwidth-hungry XML applications.

      All of this could have been solved by developing a universal data-format and -transformation language, and keeping everything in its original compact binary representation.

      --
      Proud member of the Weirdo-American community.
    7. Re:wrong x 20? by Rysc · · Score: 1

      >All of this could have been solved by developing a universal data-format and -transformation language, and keeping everything in its original compact binary representation.

      Didn't Be do something like this?

      --
      I want my Cowboyneal
  50. Quite Obviously... by SonnicJohnny · · Score: 2, Funny

    We need an imbedded AI to determine the data running across our networks is not copyrighted... as well as a slot for quarters so that every time we play an mp3 we can drop in our spare change... I heard Alternative Tentacles could use the money.

    --

    I'll add a sig just as soon as I clean up this room...

  51. Re:actually, Hellooooo sarcasm by nethole · · Score: 1

    Have a cookie

  52. faster disks by kubota · · Score: 0

    Electric "disks" (such as memory device) are always researched in order to replace mechanical disks. The biggest problem is the cost. If this problem would be solved, "disks" (it would not be disk-shaped) would be drastically faster than today's disks.

  53. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by gCGBD · · Score: 1


    Have you tried the voice portal - tellme?

    Pretty cool stuff IMHO.I think the voice technology may have been around a long time, but it has been making a lot of strides in very recent times...

    --

    O=='=++
  54. CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids... by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    400 gigs and a cloud of dust: AFC hard drives


    Not a bad idea. As the average amount of free space per PC increases, software makers will find a way to utilize it. They always have.


    PDAs move to another level: The 1-GHz palmtop


    Doubtful. Unlike cell phones, the demographic that buys palmtops aren't made up of teenagers. The people who buy and use palmtops aren't obsessed with making them smaller. They want connectivity first, then speed, then glitz. Besides, the typical uses of a palmtop don't extend to high-end computing. Having 1 Ghz under the hood isn't going to allow you to write your term paper any faster.

    Scintillating screens: Organic-light-emitting diodes


    Vastly overhyped. The intensity of OLEDs fade with time. When compared next to TFT, they look like shit, perform like shit, and go bad far quicker than TFT. They're also more expensive to produce. It'll be a novelty, but, it wont go anywhere in the end, IMHO.

    The message is the medium: Next-generation instant messaging


    Uhhh.....Ever heard of IRC? CUSeeMe? This is hardly a new technology. Its the same paradox as the video phone. Everyone thinks that videophones would be totally cool, but no one's willing to have their hair and make-up done in order to answer the phone. Pound for pound, text remains the best medium for large groups of people to share information. What good is a teleconference if only one person at a time can talk? If more than one person starts talking, you might as well be listening to a washing machine.

    Tireless wireless: 802.11 networks


    I absolutely agree. 802.11 is the beginning of something very big. Community networks, and the death knell for wire-provided technologies like DSL, Cable, 56K modems, etc.

    In search of a common language: Markup languages for everything

    Here we go again, failing to learn from history. People, its like this -- Programmers dont think alike. Thats what makes them programmers. You'll no sooner see people using the same language for markup as you'll see people coding in Smalltalk. People gravitate towards languages based on their ability to be proficient at it. No matter how good XML is, people will still use HTML becuase it suits them better, or PHP, or Perl, or C, or Assembly, or freakin Smalltalk if they want. Name a single time in history when a programmer was considered proficient in his art, WITHOUT knowing more than one language. Get my drift?

    Getting a little hyper: Hyper-threading


    Big clue for ya, gang--99.9% of your PC's lifespan is spent waiting for your lazy human ass to tell it what to do. Hyperthreading assumes that Moore's Law will flatline. It wont. What good is greater availability of processing power when you're STILL not addressing the fact that for most of your machine's usable lifespan, it's sitting idle anyway? Its like code optimization research. As time goes on, it becomes more and more irrelevant.

    And now, my short list of what WILL take off:

    802.11 and its offspring

    Corporation-controlled P2P trading

    P2P For Programmers--Wide and seamless code-sharing environments that replace segmented environments like SourceForge, Savannah, etc. Why not search for a bunch of good 3D engine s to pick from instead of just MP3s?

    GUI optimization. Out with the old, in with the new. The need for a more intuitive interface always wins in the long run, over tradition-based designs. (cough)Scrollball(cough) :)

    User-centric computing instead of application-centric computing.

    Self-regulating and self-maintaining applications...Just picture it. Your antivirus software is eventually rendered obsolute because each of your applications, independant of one another, monitors its own structure and is aware of viruses that may attempt to exploit it. Also downloads and applies new updates, code patches, etc. Maintenance-free from a user standpoint.

    Government requirements for both OS security and application security. Possibly even a ratings system.

    Where will it end! :)

    Cheers,

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

  55. Re:ashcroft will be spying on every pc by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    major change, in 2002

    How will this be different from 2001. By the way, your email box needs cleaning.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  56. Faster, smaller, cheaper? by robathome · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not being a businessman on the hardware side of the world, there's one question that I've been wanting an answer to for some time. Is there a viable market for PC systems in the less-than-$700 price range? It would seem that educational institutions (especially public school disctricts) and the less-affluent consumer would be the perfect targets for this sort of marketing.

    I realize that as technology ages, margins get slimmer and slimmer. What, however, is the floor? It would seem that in a world of "faster, smaller, cheaper," that there would be use for $200-300 machines that are new, out of the box, with warranty service, but are fully functional PCs. Net appliances were interesting, but for the average consumer nothing more than a pretty terminal device. Is it possible in this marketplace for a company to build and sell a cheap Wintel box to the budget consumer and still turn a profit?

    It would sure beat having school districts full of old, beat-up, barely functional corporate write-off machines.

    --

    At 3 A.M. you can see people's auras; at five you can see their contrails...
    1. Re:Faster, smaller, cheaper? by RabidChipmunk · · Score: 1


      Demanding WinTel ties you to a lot of extra costs. You can't sell a $200 PC that comes with a $100 OS.

      Similarly, backward compatibility is a major cost issue. For people with old equipment, doing away with it will cost them. For the manufacturer keeping it adds a lot to the cost, and degrades performance.

      If you want small, fast, and cheep you're better off looking at a beefed up embeded system. Note that you can keep Intel, if you want.

      --
      This is not a political statement. This is not legal advice. It's a frick'n Slasdot post. However: I'm Running For
    2. Re:Faster, smaller, cheaper? by Julian352 · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know about the market, but it is easily possible to build a system (without monitor, but those rarely age, and don't sell for much used) for under $500 with fairly good specs. About a year ago I've build myself Duron 650 for $300 or so, but that did not include a hard drive. I think a lot of schools could benefit from having some local company provide the cheap used/assembled computers.
      The problems starts from the need by the schools to have some type of licensed support or warranty, which would bring the costs up. It might be possible to have the students get certified through the school, and that way provide both the education to students and support personal to the school.

    3. Re:Faster, smaller, cheaper? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

      Check out this article to see why you are dead on and why the hardware makers hope it isn't so. The only other point I'd make is if you can make it smaller, that will be a plus, too.

      --
      That is all.
    4. Re:Faster, smaller, cheaper? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2
      Definately. Nobody likes spending money. Really, you just need to convince people that a GHz machine with all sorts of nifty-keen features isn't necessary for what they want.


      I don't think that it would do all too well in the home consumer market ... People who don't really know what they need always assume they need every little gadget, which bumps the price significantly, and those of us who know what we want build their own. However, I think that you're right about the target market -- schools or small businesses, I think.


      My obligitory rant -- school administrators always love upgrading their computer labs. Somehow, they're on the upgrade-every-two-years treadmill, even though the upgrades are unneccesary. (You could type reports, research stuff on the web, and even write programs on a 486 or pentium.) If someone would provide low-end-but-decent computers, at reasonable prices, as well as support etc., and somehow manage to get public schools to go that route instead, they'd be doing a great service, both to the students and to the taxpayers. (And to themselves, as they wallow in their profits.)

      --

      How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
    5. Re:Faster, smaller, cheaper? by JamieF · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, margins are razor thin, and various PC companies (Compaq and IBM, for example) have publicly expressed that they may give up soon, and stop making PC's. Network appliance makers couldn't seem to get their products under the $400-$500 price range without removing a critical component such as the hard disk. Many years ago when I was selling PC's in college, the minimum price was about $1200, below which the mfrs would just give up and discontinue the product. Apparently some combination of obsolescence and shrinking profit made it pointless to keep making them at that time.

      Of course, PC's are much cheaper now. From what I've experienced in the past 2 weeks while visiting friends who are normal people (not computer weenies like me), the reason they upgrade is mostly to fix software configuration problems that make the computer ridiculously slow, and less to get new features, although that's nice too. Stuff that power users wouldn't put up with, like a 4-5 minute freeze at boot time due to a configuration problem, are things that normal users put up with. "This computer is so slow, I need a new one" is a real quote from a person I know who had a problem like that.

      I think that disposable PC's might be a viable idea, if someone could figure out how to make the important data survive while killing the worthless corrupted data. My parents had an old black-and-white TV set with old-style knobs to change the channel, and it went on the fritz. Did they fix it? Hell no, they tossed it and bought a new one. If PC's reach the $100 price point, that's what people would do with them, too. But the data is an issue.

      Maybe instead of NC's using broadband to get to a central server, we could have a central server in the house and NC's running the apps? Separate the data three ways: app installers, data, and user profile info. Apps install on the local machine, data is on the server, and profiles are on the server. If the apps hose each other, nuke the local macine and reinstall apps as needed. No more DLL rot. If your profile is broken, nuke it but your data is safe.

      Regardless, it's clear to me that complexity is the issue, not price point. If PC's were free, there would still be people who wouldn't want one.

  57. Availability by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    We will still have the concept of have's and have not's. What we need is cheap affordable roll outs of the basic infrastructure for all this wonderful technology.

    Not everybody will be able to afford the prices, and not everybody will be able to get access to technologies (broadband for example in some locations whether wireless or wired).

    --
    ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  58. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    Yeah, I know I mispelled "obsolete". Its 6 AM here, and i'm still a little goofy from all the egg nog.

    :)

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

  59. CNN == AOL != PCWORLD by satanami69 · · Score: 1

    Hmm, I just finished this story in PCWorld during my after Christmas boweling.
    It's probably best to combine a few of these to get some really cool techo ideas. For example:
    Cross Peer-to-peer networking with Tireless wireless: 802.11 networks. Now every you're at that Nascar BBQ, you could be getting the latest Tim and Willy CD.

    Or

    Guided by voices: Voice portals combined with May we see some ID, please: The electronic wallet, so retailers have to yell at my butt to get my money.

    --
    I really hate Dan Patrick.
  60. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by tshoppa · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If markup languages such as XML will substitute proprietary binary formats like MS Word and so on, it will be very nice!

    Oh, the hard drive manufacturers will love this. A simple one-page document will take gigabytes of hard disk space :-).

    Wasn't there a slashdot story in the past year about how a common binary protocol was being replaced with XML, with a corresponding increase of a factor in the hundreds in storage/network requirements?

  61. Re:Ashcroft: All your keystrokes belong to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does Ashcroft remind anyone else of the smoking
    man in X-Files?

  62. PC of 2004 ... by JohnyDog · · Score: 1

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    If you'd have even only CD-writer, why the heck buying something as slow, low-space and unrealiable as floppy ? Bootable CD's replaced diskettes long time ago, and so does cheap home networking. I haven't used floppy for past 3 years.

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not
    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)


    Pretty apocalyptic vision.

    --
    People who like this sort of sig will find this the sort of sig they like.
  63. Furture tech I want! by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Wearable computers. The article mentioned flexi-displays. Just didn't put it together with the GHz handheld.


    Solid State storage. I'm tired of these Victorian style moving platters and arms. Almost steam punkish. Check out the USB based Piccolo storage keys w/o drivers. They're up to 128MB. Prices should be dropping for GB size stuff, I hope.


    Real Firewire hard drives, not these IDE drives with adapter cards on them. Again, it's a serial style cable connection that will feed the beast faster and help neated up the case internals. Serial ATA would do the trick too. Now if only we could connect these cables up to the solid state storage.

    --
    I drank what? -- Socrates
    1. Re:Furture tech I want! by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

      Not only weable computers, what about immsersive experiences, ie., iWare and gesture controls for gaming/simulations etc.

      --
      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong
  64. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Brento · · Score: 1

    Have you tried the voice portal - tellme?

    Yeah, I actually suggested that a poster above use it, but that's not voice web navigation. It's just a voice-response system, basically, with their own customized back end. Don't get me wrong, voice recognition is great - I love being able to say my responses to my bank's voice system when I'm on my cell phone, but that doesn't mean it's good for surfing the web yet.

    --
    What's your damage, Heather?
  65. Magnetic Core Memory? by ZigMonty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Data magnet: Magnetic RAM

    What is it? Fast memory that retains data even after you've turned the power off.

    What's cool? MRAM uses magnetic charges instead of electricity to store bits; when you turn off your machine, your data remains in memory.

    This sounds a hell of a lot like magnetic core memory. It's funny that they portray magnetic RAM as something new. Yes, I know the new implementation of this will be very different (sub micron scale etc) but the idea was popular decades ago. Does anyone have a good comparison of the old way and the planned new way?

    1. Re:Magnetic Core Memory? by Croaker · · Score: 2

      Heh. I don't know any more about this technology, but it does seem really funny that they are touting this as a new technology...

      My 70+ year-old father's first job at Raytheon in the mid 50's was... to oversee core memory manufacture. Whoo hoo... cutting edge.

      But at least this will address the #1 stupidity I see in compters today... why is it I have to have the computer load a bunch of crap from scratch every time I turn it on? I can;t wait for computers to be more like my PDA in this respect...

    2. Re:Magnetic Core Memory? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Core wasn't the only kind of magnetic memory. Do you remember bubble memory? It actually had little magnetic bubbles that paraded past a read/write head in a kind of magnetic conga line. It also retained its configuration between power cycles. It was horribly slow, and accessed the bits serially as they glided past the heads. Here's a great page that shows how they worked.

      --
      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    3. Re:Magnetic Core Memory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is great. I happen to have an actual Intel bubble memory development kit from the late 70's, complete with chips marked 'PROTO' and a honking big 1 megabit bubble memory in a magnetically shielded enclosure. IIRC, in the early 80's, this was where it's at. That and stringy floppies and you had a killer 1982 PC.

    4. Re:Magnetic Core Memory? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Oh god, I thought I was the only one who saved and scrimped to buy a stringy floppy! I still remember that sounnd - wee-WAH, wee-WAH, hummm....

      What memories - I thought it was the cat's meow, that stringy floppy. It was way faster and more reliable than the silly cassette player, and certainly more cool. Those tapes were unbelieveably skinny; something like a 16th on an inch!

      Thanks for the memory...

      --
      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    5. Re:Magnetic Core Memory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cleaning up a pile of long forgotten trade rags
      today:

      Electronic Products (May 1981)
      Update: Bubble memories make their move.

      Shudder!

      Wonder where those bright sparks at BubbleTec
      are now?

  66. DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the BIGGEST factor in the next three years will be the unfolding battle between users, Microsoft, and content publishers (music, eBooks, videos, etc.) for control of your PC hardware.

    By 2004 we should start to have a clear idea of whether our own hardware still belongs to us, or whether the music industry and Hollywood convince Congress to put DRM-enforcing, watermark-detecting chips into every consumer device.

    In 2004 will we still be able to buy general-purpose PC's? Will we be able to buy blank analog media? Will we be able to buy CD-R's that are capable of storing arbitrary binary files on them? When we turn on our PC microphone in a room with a radio playing, will it detect the watermark in the music and turn the microphone off again? Will we be risking serious jail time for even mentioning the possibility of evasion techniques in a forum like this?

    Publishers envision (a world in which it is impossible to purchase or own software, books, music, or videos, only to rent them for short periods of time). If DRM even BEGINS to implement these changes, IMHO it will make FAR more difference to our lives than cheap 400 gig disk drives.

  67. Voice Rec. in its infancy by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    That I have a hard time understanding a lot of people (yes, I work in The Valley) should be an indicator that this is a difficult thing to accomplish. Maybe in middle america it's easier. I don't even like to use it on the phone and hit buttons instead (lord knows these phone things are slow enough that you want to avoid making any mistakes and having to listen to the $&^%@ menu again)

    And the're plenty of variation on people who were born in the US or UK or AU (or wherever else people natively speak some strain of english) that tone and inflection are significantly difficult to work with.

    Expect either of the following:

    computers are fast enough, have enough memory and storage to actually understand the butchered english of the worst Teaching Assistant

    OR

    There's a massive Hitlerian (this should be a word, if it didn't exist, I claim to have invented it) effort to violate all of our civil liberties and force everyone to correctly speak the same way or be shipped off to concentration camps (in New Jersey, probably.)*

    *You may laugh, but there's actually schools which teach you not to speak with a southern drawl. Scary.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    1. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      there's actually schools which teach you not to speak with a southern drawl.


      Good. The classes should be funded by taxing the southern states.

    2. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      There's a massive Hitlerian effort to violate all of our civil liberties and force everyone to correctly speak the same

      1. Sort of like Palm did with Graffiti - write the way they say or it won't work.
      2. In Germany, they do this...every little region of Germany has its own accent (not unlike England, actually), but the schools teach and enforce a single "correct" pronunciation.

    3. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by markmoss · · Score: 2

      force everyone to correctly speak the same

      dillon cited the single German dialect (out of dozens) enforced by schools in Germany. It's not just Germany. Linguistic imperialism is far more common than linguistic freedom. In France, the government has forced the Parisian dialect on the rest of the nation. In England, they don't care how the peasants and servants talk, but I believe Eton and the other high-priced schools have been teaching the entire upper-class a particular and highly distinctive accent for a couple of centuries. In China for at least 2800 years, anyone wanting a role in government had better speak the Mandarin dialect; Cantonese is tolerated in south China, but that's just one other dialect out of at least dozens that once existed.

    4. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by Negadecimal · · Score: 2

      every little region of Germany has its own accent (not unlike England, actually), but the schools teach and enforce a single "correct" pronunciation.

      Yup, Hochdeutsch. I grew up in Rheinland-Pfalz, which was notorious for its accent. My school definitely made us aware of the distinction, but I wouldn't say they "enforced" the higher standard.

    5. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 0
      You may laugh, but there's actually schools which teach you not to speak with a southern drawl. Scary.

      Scary? It sounds like an excellent idea to me...

      --

      This sig is xenon coated, and will glow red when in the presence of aliens

    6. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Its basicly off topic what you wrote:

      2. In Germany, they do this...every little region of Germany has its own accent (not unlike England, actually), but the schools teach and enforce a single "correct" pronunciation.

      So I assume my answer is also off topic.

      However: thats plain wrong.

      In most European languages you have dialects.

      In most languages you have a written version of the language.

      The written language is considered the "high language".

      The high language is the language used in TV, newpapers and radio, and of course in law and governmental issues.. Everybody understands it.

      No one is forced to SPEAK actually the high language, only writing is needed.

      I would bet you would not easyly be able to understand all written dialects of your own language.

      If you meet poeple in the street, they *ALL* speak dialect. And the so called "high language" is only a dialect, too! It is only THAT dialect which won the competition to be the official writing/speaking version of the language.

      And the reason why the language won the competitio is in germany: Martin Luther wrote his bible in "high german", Gutenberg living at the same period in time printed the bible, of course in "high german".

      Well, in fact he did not write it in "high german" but in his own dialect, which evolved over time to the now known "high german". So one widely available printing was the vehicle transporting the high language into the regions.

      Your claim pupils would be forced to speak "high german" is wrong. They learn it form TV ... only a moron teacher, those exist of course, would force pupils to speak high german.

      Regards,
      angel'o'sphere

      P.S. yes I'm german :-) But I know that the above is also true for france and italy.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    7. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      "In England, they don't care how the peasants and servants talk, but I believe Eton and the other high-priced schools have been teaching the entire upper-class a particular and highly distinctive accent for a couple of centuries." YOU ABSOLUTE TWAT - THAT IS TOTAL BOLLOCKS

      --
      That was classic intercourse!
    8. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      isn't Xenon a fairly inert gas? what a shitty sig.

    9. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      • *You may laugh, but there's actually schools which teach you not to speak with a southern drawl. Scary.

      Do they also teach you that "there's" is a contraction of the singular form "there is" which can't be used with plural nouns like "schools"?

      On a more pedantic note, you should also have used "that" rather than "which"--the latter generally requires a comma.

    10. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      The written language is considered the "high language".
      But we're discussing voice recognition...I'm talking not simply about word choice, grammar, and other issues that are common to both spoken and written language. I'm referring to how phonemes are pronounced. For example, my cousin, a southerner, pronounces "are" and "air" the same, although he knows how to write them and use them. He is well-educated, and writes with great skill, but his pronunciation differs from mine. A system trained to recognize my accent would choke on his.

      That said, I yield to your obviously superior experience in the matter of German language education. :)

    11. Re:Voice Rec. in its infancy by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      You are right, if you use language recognition which needs to be trained and can not take into account context. (Or context is not unique enough).

      Well, I was only refering to the wrong claim that in germany nazi teachers or a nazi like government would enfource pupils to speak in a "high language".

      It happends but it is not a goal of the government nor would it be accepted by the public.

      Probably I answered to a end of a thread allready far away from topc ... sorry for that :-)

      angel'o'sphere

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  68. Cheap ADSL by JohnHegarty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the only thing that will shape the (home) computer world for the next few years is weather and when cheap broadband is available for the masses.

  69. Increasing airflow? by FleshWound · · Score: 2, Funny
    Under the section about Serial ATA, I found this little gem:
    It also uses longer, thinner cables that won't block airflow inside the system case, which lets systems run cooler and allows PC makers to build more-compact desktops and notebooks.
    So, the cables will INCREASE airflow by taking up less space, but, because of these new, smaller cables, the PC manufacturers are going to DECREASE the amount of space inside the chassis in which the air can actually flow? *boggle*
  70. Guided by voices: Voice portals by NiftyNews · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Guided by voices: Voice portals"

    Imagine how many websites would pop up if you announced that you wanted to see "mindless crap."

  71. dunno about you.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..but the alias 'pixie dust' sounds more fitting to some sort of street drug rather than a hard drive technology

  72. To quote a President... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The economy. This is the number one factor that will affect PCs in 2002. When the economy is shite, research firms are cut back which slows development of new technology. Manufacturers cut back which slows deployment of new technology. Consumers cut back which slows take-up of new technology.

  73. I like the specs, but have some thoughts (duh :)) by MattRog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Re: Me getting a new desktop in 2004:
    I doubt it -- I have a PII400 I've used for the last 4 years... it served me very well until I got bitten by the Wolfenstein 3D bug over the summer and realized I 'needed' a new box so I built myself a 1.333GHz Athlon which I expect to keep until it blows up. Same with the PII400, it's a linux test box for FanHome which I keep all the dev code on .

    I suspect, though, if things are that cheap in the year 2004 I'll go ahead and pick another computer up; I already have 3 -- another couple couldn't hurt (except the electric bill).

    Wireless mouse and keyboard? Puh-lease. Those have been around for 5+ years and never, ever caught on (both infrared and RF). I doubt somehow we're going to want to sit on our couch and stare at our monitors. Why waste bluetooth bandwidth on your keyboard/mouse? I think the biggest drawback will be the need to replace batteries and/or plug the keyboard into the wall to recharge them. You'll always be working on a big paper or playing the perfect game of Counter Strike when your keyboard batteries die.

    I dislike the idea of everyone using Bluetooth until their protocol isn't redicoulously easy to crack. Weren't there some stories posted a while ago about how easy it was to crack 128bit 802.11b -- with everyone and their mother using bluetooth it would be a cinch for someone to set up a wireless sniffer and read all your keyboard inputs (passwords, etc.).

    Re: Laptop
    I have a Dell Insprion 8000 that I purchased last May. It was faster than my desktop at the time so it truely was a replacement. It's a PIII850 with 256MB RAM. Runs great for what I use it for (when I'm on the road or otherwise away from my home computer it checks my mail and provides Age of Empires 2 gaming ) and I don't hope to replace it any time soon. It has a 15" LCD already and I couldn't imagine anything larger since as they said it would get HUGE. As soon as they develop those 'roll up' organic LCDs (which they've been talking about for 3 years or more now so I doubt all of a sudden they'll appear) they could have a laptop without any screen and then some sort of 'projector' type screen which you set up. I also have and use 802.11b at home and at work which is great although it is a separate PC card which sometimes I forget. If it was built-in like the Mac Ti Books (which are AWESOME btw) it would be a lot easier... Although one would think that would limit upgradeability since you'd have to rip the thing apart to replace the 802.11b with 802.11a. I don't know why they've limited the RAM to 256MB -- mine has that now with one slot free (for another 256MB DIMM I guess). If we're going to truely have desktop replacement laptops I'd see no reason why to get 512MB RAM (certainly whilst it is pennies on the dollar compared to even a year ago).

    --

    Thanks,
    --
    Matt
  74. Battery life of 4-5 hours by fxj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As long as I can remember the battery of my notebooks all lastet ONE hour. I think thats a magic number. Obviously users dont need more than one hour and it is not as important as a faster cpu or a brighter display. The same is valid for PDAs or else they wouldnt sell so many ipaqs.

    1. Re:Battery life of 4-5 hours by PMan88 · · Score: 1

      umm. i have been getting almost 4 hours of battery life for over two years, since i bought my ibook

  75. Not just CAD/CAM by moogla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SMP does not require a special application to take advantage of, only the operating system needs to support it (Windows 2000, XP Professional and Linux all do this).

    It is useful if you like to do more than one thing at once. If you are like me and open up multiple instances of Netscape or IE, Word, MP3 players, all while burning a CD and hosting a Quake3 server, you would immediately experience the benefit from SMP.

    Any multithreaded app can gain the benefit of SMP (not to mention running many simultaneously)

    --
    Black holes are where the Matrix raised SIGFPE
    1. Re:Not just CAD/CAM by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2
      SMP does not require a special application to take advantage of, only the operating system needs to support it (Windows 2000, XP Professional and Linux all do this).
      If you take out the phrase 'to take advantage of' and put in 'to function' you'd be correct. There are all sorts of things you have to do to use SMP *as well as possible* or you wind up with an eight lane highway with a single lane on ramp; sure, eventually everything will get on and off, and once on, will be fine, but you get some real bottlenecks unless you're careful.
      --
      Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
    2. Re:Not just CAD/CAM by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Again a clueless moderator modded a plain wrong or nearly plain wrong posting: insightfull.

      If you application is single threaded, it has no benefit from SMP.

      The only benefit from SMP then is: as many single threaded programs as processors exist can run truely simultaniously.

      Usualy two.

      OTOH if you write an application to support multithreading: AFAIK Netscape is written for that, the single application benefits from SMP.

      With two processors, bad behaving programs eating up the CPU have not a such heavy (recognizeable) impact, propably you mean that.

      Regards,
      angel'o'sphere

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    3. Re:Not just CAD/CAM by moogla · · Score: 1

      Wasn't that what I just said? When did I say a single-threaded app could suddenly run x times faster with SMP?

      --
      Black holes are where the Matrix raised SIGFPE
    4. Re:Not just CAD/CAM by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      SMP does not require a special application to take advantage of, only the operating system needs to support it (Windows 2000, XP Professional and Linux all do this).

      Well, as I understand this, its wrong.

      SMP requires a special application, it requires a application which is multithreaded ...

      Otherwise the application runs as one thread.

      Well, I think you tried to explain something different and I did not understand :-) sorry then.

      angel'o'sphere

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  76. I wish that Floppy disk will die by DrD8m · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's time to forget floppy disks, 2002 is a good date to stop using this old magnetig faulty devices.

    1. Re:I wish that Floppy disk will die by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Mods, how is that rated funny? My new box has no FDD, and the only problem wiht that is school (the school blocks everything and allows certian websites)
      -rob

  77. Unfair! by _mt99 · · Score: 1

    One thing that I have noticed, were the little "weights of importance" for each category. Annoyingly enough, the two genuinely interesting(to me anyway) topics of P2P and distributed computing are apparently just something that would be "nice to have", which to me sounds like utter rubbish. P2P and distributed computing is underutilised and underdeveloped, which is why its benefits don't come through as clearly as, say the eternal fuel cells etc. The author clearly went for the "impress the average CNN.com reader by throwing in some abbreviations"-approach, for which, some people might want to see him put down. I really could not care less. Oh, another thing was that the "applications able to harness this power [of hyper-threading] are nowhere to be seen". Ahem, that is just funny. Can I have a job writing for CNN too?

  78. Yes, the plan is working perfectly. by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Redundant
    Microsoft invented the computer, the phone, the TV, the Internet, the Hubble Telescope, fought and won the war on terrorism, and led us all to the promised land.

    Get with it, there are clueless people who think M$ is so big and wonderful that every innovation has come from them and Microsoft will be the last company to correct them on any praise. Now if they continued, ".. and in so doing, hopelessly choked the Net with bloat and brought the last broadband provider to their knees." then they might have something. Of course, Microsoft would happily correct them then "that's not bloat, that's a feature!"

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  79. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so your phone can "read" your "voice" mail? The whole idea of voice mail is that it is already a recorded voice. I assume you mean email?

  80. Markup language for everything? by eaddict · · Score: 1

    Ha! Unless it will me MsXML. If there is a standard out there AND MS isn't making money from it I am sure they will then create thier own. As if that hasn't happened in the past already...

    --
    "If you are on fire you can just stop, drop, and roll. If you fall into Lava you are just dead." - my 5yr old daughter
  81. Interesting...but missing the point by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was thinking over the holidays about how much I prefer playing games on a dedicated console instead of my PC. PCs have gotten to be necessary evils, especially in recent years. Consider:

    1. Upgrading one piece of software or one hardware component (e.g. video card) can easily turn into a cascade of upgrades and a week's worth of evenings. I've gotten afraid to upgrade; I don't want to mess with something that works.

    2. The rash of awful virii and worms that get released for whatever system provides the most opportunity (note: If Linux were on 95% of all desktops, there would be just as many Linux viruses; thinking otherwise is like thinking you have developed an unbreakable copy protection scheme). Keeping up with all the security patches and such has been a real headache. And unless I keep up with sites where these things are announced, I'd never know about them.

    3. There's still a general unreliability factor associated with PCs. Sometimes my PC doesn't boot completely, and I have to power down and try again. Ever run a game and hear the monitor click indicating a resolution change, and then nothing happens and even if you could kill the game you can't get your video card to reset without a reboot. This is a common occurrence in both Linux and Windows.

    4. 99% of the time there's a problem with a game or application, the response is "Do you have the latest video card drivers?" They seem to be released stealthily every few weeks. Who wants to deal with it? And whenever you upgrade there's a high probability of trouble with older software. See #1.

    If PCs change in a drastic way, I'd like to see that change in the reliability direction. Yes, yes, yes, Linux is more reliable than Windows 95/98/ME, but Windows 2000 and XP are right up there with Linux. The OS wars dodge the issue. If PCs could be make as reliable as cell phones or PDAs, then I might be interested in them again. Right now I simply view them as mainframes for your home, with all the same system administration headaches.

    1. Re:Interesting...but missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errr... I use a G4 that I bought in 1999. I don't have most of these problems. Then again, I didn't have them with my old Performa (1994) or my Classic II (1991) or even my father's old Mac Plus. I've never had any problems when upgrading. I've had three viruses that I killed using Disinfectant (freeware). I sometimes have that problem with games crashing after a resolution change. In fact, that is the ONLY time my mac has crashed since I switched to OS X.

      Reliability? I've always had reliability with my Macs. My PCs have been consistently unreliable. Even my most stable PC (running SuSE) crashes sometimes and often responds strangely to hardware changes.

      The technology is not the problem. It's simply a matter of you-get-what-you-pay-for when it comes to hardware. It only follows that my $4000+ Macintosh is more reliable than my $300 PC. You expect a Mercedes to be more reliable than a Yugo, don't you?

    2. Re:Interesting...but missing the point by Raven667 · · Score: 2

      I would like to take exception to most of the points that you have made. They are not base problems with the technology, they are mainly problems endemic to DOS/Windows. Even running on the exact same hardware, most other OS's will not have these problems.

      • 1. Upgrading one piece of software or one hardware component (e.g. video card) can easily turn into a cascade of upgrades and a week's worth of evenings. I've gotten afraid to upgrade; I don't want to mess with something that works.

        The software component of your complaint is mainly a package management problem. Windows systems traditionally have terrible/non-existant software management tools and a very high level of interdependancy of software components that is usually completely non-obvious and opaque to both user and admin alike. To answer to the hardware part of your question this is generally just a Windows problem as well. For Mac's, hardware is easy (see the AC's post). On my desktop machine, all relevant drivers are included with the base OS and it has limited detection of new/changed hardware. I recently built a new Athalon MP system to replace my aging Pentium 233MMX system and merely moved the harddrive from one system to the other. It autodetected my new MB and NIC without any effort required on my part, changing my XF86Config-4 file consisted of adding a new Device section and changing one line. Less than 5 minutes effort all told. At no point did I have to scrounge on floppies/cdrom for drivers or have to update from the manufacturers website to get things working up to spec.

      • 2. The rash of awful virii and worms that get released for whatever system provides the most opportunity (note: If Linux were on 95% of all desktops, there would be just as many Linux viruses; thinking otherwise is like thinking you have developed an unbreakable copy protection scheme). Keeping up with all the security patches and such has been a real headache. And unless I keep up with sites where these things are announced, I'd never know about them.

        This has been hashed over again and again and I don't believe it to be true. Windows has a really bass-ackwards method for loading programs and in 9x versions absolutely no useful memory protection or system security. Last I checked NT based systems require many things to be world-writable, although SFP helps a little. Systems such as Linux have a completely different method for determining whether a program is loadable or not which significantly raises the bar for infection (ie. way higher than a Y/N popup from your web brower or email client) and can insure greater integrity of the system so that errors like rm -rf are more easily recoverable. With very little admin effort (which may be done by the vendor for you) you can make your system nearly invulnerable to everything short of a buffer overflow in your browser or MUA (and header and MIME parsing seems to be the only automatically exploitable vulnerability possible in an MUA). Anyway on a better designed system, without so many endemic design flaws, viruses have a much harder time infecting the system (propagating should be just as easy). Also there are even better security architectures that could be made default at any time (LSM w/Flask, SubDomain, Janus, POSIX, etc.) that could make the network a very hostile place for viruses. I predict that there will be no requirement for antivirus softare on Linux systems

      • 3. There's still a general unreliability factor associated with PCs. Sometimes my PC doesn't boot completely, and I have to power down and try again. Ever run a game and hear the monitor click indicating a resolution change, and then nothing happens and even if you could kill the game you can't get your video card to reset without a reboot. This is a common occurrence in both Linux and Windows.

        Ok, you've got me there. There is a lot of cheap, crappy hardware on the market with marginal reliability. It is generally difficult to tell the difference between unreliable hardware and unreliable OS software, but when one has a reliable OS, the unreliable hardware sticks out more. I do have to say, though, that simple operations like changing video resolution or from VGA text to graphics modes on my Linux machine is not an operation that causes system unreliability even though it is a more technologically intensive operation that what is possible under Windows (ie. virtual terminals with a mix of text and graphical heads).

      • 4. 99% of the time there's a problem with a game or application, the response is "Do you have the latest video card drivers?" They seem to be released stealthily every few weeks. Who wants to deal with it? And whenever you upgrade there's a high probability of trouble with older software. See #1.

        This is both a symptom of time-to-market pressure at the vidcard manufacturer and the poor GDI/display driver implementation in Windows. With XFree86 and its drastic seperation of video display and application, drivers are generally more stable, update less frequently and don't have application specific glitches. On my desktop at work I am still running the same copy of X that was started when I booted the machine last Oct, eg.
        879 ? S 12033:14 /etc/X11/X vt7 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth :0
        . For games the only real requirement is an accelerated OpenGL and any card will work fine. Oh, and with X11, backwards compatability is pretty much a non-issue, in fact some of the standard X apps are pretty old and haven't needed any serious changes in years (5+).

      Again, I think that your background (like mine 8^) has significantly colored your judgement, causing you to mistake endemic OS design and implementation issues with actual, hard, technology problems.

      Have Fun!

      --
      -- Remember: Wherever you go, there you are!
    3. Re:Interesting...but missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If PCs change in a drastic way, I'd like to see that change in the reliability direction. Yes, yes, yes, Linux is more reliable than Windows 95/98/ME, but Windows 2000 and XP are right up there with Linux. The OS wars dodge the issue. If PCs could be make as reliable as cell phones or PDAs, then I might be interested in them again. Right now I simply view them as mainframes for your home, with all the same system administration headaches

      Hah!

      I have an Ericsson T18s cellphone. It spontaneously reboots, freezes (requiring battery removal to reset), and fails to connect, instead giving me interesting digital howl. Unfortunately computers will not become more reliable, instead as complexity increases our other devices will become less reliable. (By computers I mean consumer boxes, not mission critical stuff).

      John

  82. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by ZigMonty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about gzipped XML? Or a compression scheme specially designed to compress XML? Really, this isn't that big a problem. In fact, a gzipped XML Word file would probably be smaller than the binary file as the text would be compressed as well. Faster processors make this easier than ever.

  83. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by dasheiff · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What is it about voice recognition that suckers journalists in every time?

    They're writing about what they see as most important. You need to remember that reporters/journalists/comentators in the print media want desperately to be in the non-print media (radio / tv).

    I was hoping you were going for the fact that print journalists have to write a lot and since they often dictate into personal recorders to get a story and would rather not have to transcribe it later, to their computers, by hand.

  84. What I�m expecting to happen in 2002 by Molina+the+Bofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    A new bug that allows remote access will be found in Windows XP. People will be urged to install the critical update or move to a real OS.

    A new bug that allows root access will be found in the latest version of wu-ftpd. People will be urged to patch it or move to a real FTP server.

    A new bug that allows root access will be found in the latest version of Sendmail. People will be urged to patch it or move to a real MTA

    A kid will be diagnosed with cancer, and will have few days left. People will send him lots of postcards.

    Youll receive a warning about a terrible virus that can reformat your hard drive, and neither Microsoft nor the antivirus companies has the ability to fix it.

    Motorolla will fill for Chapter 11 because it spent so much money giving cellular phones to everybody who sent lots of e-mails

    Amazon will not make profit in 2002

    --

    -
    Roses are #FF0000, Violets are #0000FF, find / -name '*base*' |xargs chown -R us && mv zig greatjustice
  85. Price? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2

    you know, it is sort of sad that this journalist is to ignorant of the techmarket to realise that a standard PC and a standard Notbook will never be sold for more than $1200 and $1600 respectivly.
    I thought it was sort of funny that he is predicting that PCs will cost the same as the did just before the tech boom. yeah never mind that the Cool new techs that came out in the last 10 years did not increese the cost of the PC or Notebook.

    --



    I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
  86. What about the SSSCA? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Requiring copy-protection to be built in every single computer peripheral capable of storage is kinda significant, yet merits no mention. Maybe nobody's supposed to know about it?

    -A.P.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  87. I don't like this... by AnarchySoftware · · Score: 1

    no more telephone or e-mail tag.
    ...and...
    What is it? A way to find people on the Net.

    One of the great advantages of email is that you can send it when you want, but the person who gets it, also gets it when (s)he wants. It doesn't interrupt you like the telephone.

    I see an advantage of this technology slipping away from us...

  88. Optial Disc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and a disx is optional.

    1. Re:Optial Disc? by Wire+Tap · · Score: 1

      Woops. I meant 'optical'.

      --

      Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.

  89. Wow, only Pentium will.... Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That 2-GHz Pentium 4 chip might be a barn burner, but parts of it are always sitting idle, waiting for your software to use them. Intel's Hyper-Threading technology will put those indolent circuits to use, allowing network servers to handle up to 30 percent more users. Desktops may see a similar gain once applications are written to take advantage of it, but the benefits would likely be felt first by compulsive multitaskers who like to play games, download files, and print databases at the same time.

    Notice they said Pentium. Methinks its because some other unnamed chip maker allready has much better performance at lower mhz...

  90. floppies still have their use. by Erris · · Score: 2
    I don't understand why any (non tech person) would still use a disk (as opposed to a disc).

    I don't know why anyone would not use an ftp server connected to a cable box. proftp works for me, who needs media for anything but archives?

    The kind of computer that lacks a network interface generally lacks a CDROM but has a floppy. Hate them as much as I do, I've still got a pile of floppies and several drives. Compared to the single CD writer, the floppy drives in my house are easier to write to when I have to run someplace unfamiliar.

    --
    DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
    1. Re:floppies still have their use. by GlassUser · · Score: 2
      I don't know why anyone would not use an ftp server connected to a cable box. proftp works for me, who needs media for anything but archives?


      Sounds absolutely great for everything but the NIC drivers . . .
  91. Fox News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who with a critical mind watches CNN anymore anyway? Time to graduate to Fox News Channel.

  92. CNN's editors have been in the eggnog by geckoFeet · · Score: 1
    Intel is developing a third-generation input/output interconnect specification, code-named Arapahoe, that's up to ten times quicker than today's fast PCI-X bus. PCI-X moves data in parallel along 64 wires, reaching a top speed of about 1GB per second. Arapahoe can employ from 1 to 32 lanes; each lane consists of a pair of wires and can shuffle more than 200MB of data per second between the CPU and add-in cards or integrated parts.

    Oh yeah, 200 MB is much faster than 1GB.

    1. Re:CNN's editors have been in the eggnog by _mt99 · · Score: 1

      that's per lane, perhaps?

  93. the mega instant messenger by vikool · · Score: 1

    check out the new Indiatimes messenger that can connect to five different messenger systems and chat simultaneously with all of them and even invite all of them for a conference. If this technonlgy is as goods as it sounds, why is there no hype about it?. why have i not heard of it before?.

  94. The biggest thing that isn't coming next year by pyramid+termite · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A new archetecture. No, we're just going to keep using the IBM-PC, with its IRQs and other funky crap that was invented in the early 80s and has to be hacked around to get today's computer working at a decent speed. Eventually, someone's going to have to take the plunge and reinvent the computer. Don't hold your breath.

    1. Re:The biggest thing that isn't coming next year by GlassUser · · Score: 2

      Heavens yes! I'm glad someone said it (otherwise I would have had to). x86 was great when it was invented, but it's horribly antiquitated now. Get me something modern, that doesn't have to be hacked to death to work with modern hardware and software. Forget backward compatibility, I don't like anything that's out right now any way!

    2. Re:The biggest thing that isn't coming next year by McDutchie · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Eventually, someone's going to have to take the plunge and reinvent the computer. Don't hold your breath.
      The computer has been "reinvented" many times. (Can you say Macintosh? NeXT? BeBox?) It's not the lack of innovation, but the sheep herd mentality of the consumers that cause this mess to continue.
    3. Re:The biggest thing that isn't coming next year by Sentry21 · · Score: 2

      PowerPC.

      It's an architecture designed fairly recently (within the last 6 (?) years). It's RISC, it's fast, and it's an open standard - anyone can make a 'PowerPC' chip if they want to. Apple's motherboards support PCI, AGP, USB, FireWire, IDE, and (I think) SCSI. I don't see why other people couldn't do likewise.

      Hell, Apple's PPC motherboards have in-ROM emulation software to emulate a 68k processor. That's rad.

      The only real thing keeping Apple's computers from becoming dominant (since the hardware and the OS (X) are easily superior to the alternatives in many ways) is the dominance of Windows and 86-based boxes, which everyone agrees is only there because they're there already.

      This is my take on the situation, anyway.

      --Dan

    4. Re:The biggest thing that isn't coming next year by GlassUser · · Score: 2

      Sounds good to me. As I see it though, apple has had issues capturing the market because they want to make dumbed down computers for dumbed down yuppies. This may change with OSX, but I think they're already stuck with the image.

  95. HD speed != interface speed by Gothmolly · · Score: 2

    I'm not interested in speeding up the interface. I want faster platters. The interface is already >> faster than the disk.

    --
    I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
    1. Re:HD speed != interface speed by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      I'm not interested in speeding up the interface. I want faster platters. The interface is already faster than the disk.

      The problem with current Ultra-SCSI 16,000 rpm drives is that they sound like a jet engine ready to takeoff--no thanks! :-(

      I think with better noise isolation design you will see within 12-24 months 16,000 to 20,000 rpm Serial ATA drives that generate the same noise level as today's 72000 rpm ATA-100/133 drives. At 20,000 rpm, the physical data transfer rate will work well with Serial ATA's speed of 6x ATA-133 speed. :-)

    2. Re:HD speed != interface speed by cheetah · · Score: 1

      We will not see even 15,000rpm ide drives for years. It is not a question of technology it's a business decision. The manufactures need to have performance differation between the professional drives and commodity drives. This will keep the ide stuff at least one step behind scsi. We should start seeing 10k ide drives soon, now that most manufactures have 15k scsi drives. Also I have no idea were you are getting the 20,000rpm numbers from, I havn't heard of anyone even testing 20,000rpm drives. If anyone comes out with a 20k drive it will be Seagate. They always annouce their dirves a year before they are on the market, at least that is what they have done in the past. And they usually are about a year ahead of everyone else when it comes to advancing rpm speeds. So if Seagate annouced 20,000rpm drives today (and it's thats not going to happen any time soon) I wouldn't expect to more than just Seagate shipping 20K drive for another two years... That being said, Serial ATA is a good thing, just the thin cables make upgrading worth it.

      josh

    3. Re:HD speed != interface speed by mojo-raisin · · Score: 1

      maybe you missed the part about MRAM

  96. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by pcx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Only a fool discounts voice recognition. I haven't dialed my sprint phone for the past six months, instead I simply tell it who to call and it does.

    I'm sure Douglas Adams would be giggling uncontrollably but that's OK, I think that's pretty neat technology.

    Voice recognition has come to high-end cars (remember the "rain stop" commercials?" And it's come to TV remotes. When it's put into microwaves I'll be one of the first to buy it.

    There was a time not ten years ago where nobody would dream of doing stuff like this but now we're on the verge of getting rid of the clunky typewriter keyboard and our children may look at our use of these devices as quaintly as we look upon our great great grandparents as they huddled around the radio listening to broadcasts of the lone rangers.

    So while you may stop reading future trend articles because they talk about voice recognition I won't read one that doesn't because like it or not, it IS the wave of the future and every year the technology entrenches itself a little more into our lives.

    And that is a very good thing IMHO :-)

  97. My Desktop: 2004: will be running... by dalutong · · Score: 1

    Linux for sure. I don't understand why we shouldn't be "hoping" for Linux on the desktop by 2004. I can understand that a lot of people don't think that granny could use Linux "out of the box." Well, hey. she can't use windows "out of the box" either. I use blackbox at home and my mother has never figured out how to use anything but she has figured out KDE and Kword and Konq. that is all she needs. Now i won't lie; we need much better microsoft compatibility for office documents, but openoffice doesn't do too bad of a job and by 2004 they will have become staroffice 6. maybe 6.5 or something.

    anyway. enough babble. linux is here to stay, we all admit that. i think we can also admit that linux is only getting better, and better faster than MS (even if it is catching up right now.) so, using the much fabled idea of "math" and "logic" I predict that at some point they will pass MS.

    "what about drivers?"

    hey, when i started using slackware back in 96' there were NO drivers. now i can get drivers from quite a few HW distributers. Not to mention the fact that i prefer the OSS drivers. they are nice. (and ideologically i refused to use closed code so nvidia isn't gonna be doing anything 3d for me) but OEMs figure these things out, though slowly, and soon enough there will be enough driver-power for linux to contend with MS.

    --

    What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
  98. UNL - Lincoln, Neb by andyring · · Score: 1

    The University of Nebraska - Lincoln (home to some alledgedly hot-shot theiving/conniving football team from what I hear) has a great wireless network covering a good chunk of their campus. The Union (student center) has complete coverage, as does the main library, the large chemistry building, the computer science building (duh) and I'm sure more buildings. You can roam around between these buildings and maintain decent connectivity.

  99. M$ collapses by presearch · · Score: 1

    The most significant change to computing in 2002 will be that Microsoft will do an Enron into oblivion. Xbox will prove to be a 3 month Xmas blip, XP sales will be a tenth of projections and a few key bank failures in March will induce panic in M$ investors.

  100. still useful by ekephart · · Score: 0

    ideally everyone could transfer data via the internet, intranet, etc. When this is not possible aand a sneakernet is the only way to go, floppies still are very useful for transfering small amounts of information (ie. term paper, program, etc.). Until CDRW is cheap (floppy drives are a few dollars and disks are almost free) floppy will still be used. There is no need to waste CDR after CDR unless you absolutely need the storage space.

    --
    sig
  101. Fuel/Cell - Hidenburg? by moogla · · Score: 1

    Well, it wasn't hydrogen that was the problem with the airship. The skin was painted with a highly flammable paint. I believe it was made of a magnesium (!) compound.

    If manufacturers just push how non-polluting fuel cells are, they'll be able to guilt people into using them instead of those messy, yucky chemical batteries.

    --
    Black holes are where the Matrix raised SIGFPE
    1. Re:Fuel/Cell - Hidenburg? by PaisleyFrog · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was powdered aluminum. Same net result, though...rocket fuel (-:

    2. Re:Fuel/Cell - Hidenburg? by Windwalker99 · · Score: 1

      Worse than that...it was powdered aluminum + iron, nowadays known as thermite.

      What really surprised me about it is that the company tried so hard to cover it up. They were already considered at fault, but thought it would be better to take the heat for using hydrogen (a known danger) than to explain that they'd been done in by a previously unknown chemical interaction. ::shrug::

  102. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Kirruth · · Score: 1
    People gravitate towards languages based on their ability to be proficient at it. No matter how good XML is, people will still use HTML becuase it suits them better, or PHP, or Perl, or C, or Assembly, or freakin Smalltalk if they want.

    Totally right. For this reason, I reckon this coming year is going to be huge for Java, Python and PHP. They are so going to be the next big thing.

    I appreciate they all suck in some way, Java because it belongs to M$-wannabe Sun, Python because its hard to get fast code, PHP because er...um..(sheesh, it must suck somehow). And of course, they are not C/C++, Perl, and HTML which are the languages of the Gods.

    Nevertheless, alot of people find it easy to become proficient in this new wave of languages, and do some pretty cool stuff. They're designed from the ground up to be pervasive. The development environments are awesome and free to download. As the current Internet was built with C/C++, Perl and HTML, so the future one will be built with Java, Python and PHP.

    --
    "Well, put a stake in my heart and drag me into sunlight."
  103. Your desktop PC specs in 2004 by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    Your desktop PC in 2004: Two years from now, your desktop system will be slimmer and trimmer. Flat-panel screens will replace bulky CRTs, and rewritable-DVD drives and fast graphics subsystems will turn your PC into a movie lover's dream.

    And DVD and CD so fscked up with copy protection that you can't use any of it on your PC

    CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus

    Try more memory, 512 isn't that uncommon in off the shelf computers today. And as for CPU, how about mentioning 64 bits, like the Hammer, instead of yammering on about that ancient Pentium 4

    Hard disk: From 300GB to 400GB on a Serial ATA bus

    And no backup technology even close, so you'll have to have RAID standard or risk losing all those pr0n videos. Rather have SCSI, too.

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    DVD+RW or something else, perferably without some built in copy protection lock, like HP's unit has.

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not

    If there's ANY left and IF they provide in a reasonably open service format and IF it doesn't cost $100/mo so they're profitable.

    Video: 3D graphics card with 128MB of video RAM

    And still able to play NetHack? :)

    Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution

    And weighs less than 20 lbs and lasts longer than 30 minutes on battery? I'd be happy with inexpensive 17", thanks.

    Ports: USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394

    Input devices: Wireless (Bluetooth) mouse and keyboard

    What? Now Eye-mouse or Gyromouse?

    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)

    Some version of Linux (you expected Windows, perhaps?)

    Other: An 802.11b wireless network designed for users with more than one PC

    Or a more up to date version of 802.11, but why not network it to more than just PC's, or did the future vision 15 watt bulb start to grow dim?

    Price: $1,500 to $2,000

    Well, ok, but only because the $900 model has that crappy P4 in it.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    1. Re:Your desktop PC specs in 2004 by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2

      Just for others' information, IEEE 1394 _is_ Firewire ... and is the same thing as i.Link (Sony).

      --
      - Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
  104. hhmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screw that hippie shit, I want OLED Display's right now!!

  105. MSN Messenger innovative???????? by Vicegrip · · Score: 2

    MSN messenger is barely a functional tool providing only the absolute bare bones of communication functionality.
    As for video? Try talking hooks with Microsoft Net Meeting. MNM doesn't work well behind many corporate firewalls (it's useless behind my company's simple little NAT network for talking outside).
    Finally, the idea that bundling the tool with the OS is an innovation could only come from a reporter who has had ear plugs over their ears and a paperbag over their head for the last five years. Puhhleeez.
    Microsoft needs to be forced, for each bundled application that comes with Windows, to allow competitors to bundle their own products.
    I wasn't too impressed with the first part.. stopped reading the article when I read this ditty.

    --
    Do not spread "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" over the internet, thank you.
  106. When's 2002 gonna get here? by jdavidb · · Score: 2

    Did anyone besides me wonder why most of these technologies that will change the PC in 2002 aren't expected until 2004 or so?



    From the article: Your Desktop PC in 2004: Operating System: Some form of Windows (You were expecting Linux, perhaps?)



    Stupid smart-off comment. My desktop PC has Linux now. The big change between now and then will be I quit using the Macintosh next to it. I'm tired of pompous folks telling me Linux isn't ready for my desktop. I'll make that decision, folks.

    1. Re:When's 2002 gonna get here? by micje · · Score: 1

      I think all the writer meant was that most computers in 2004 will be sold with Windows, not with Linux.

      --

      The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. - ast

    2. Re:When's 2002 gonna get here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but that isn't what he said, and he gets paid to write for a living.

  107. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when I got OS/2 Warp 4 from IBM a few years ago it came with a headset in the box and voice recognition software it worked good but unfortunaley when I had OS/2 Warp 4 the fastest computer out was like a P 166 and mine was a P75 and it required at least a Pentium 100 but I tryed it out on my newer computers when I got them and I could use the whole OS like with just my voice.

  108. The Top 3 Factors That Were Missed by Enonu · · Score: 3

    3. Political Bull-Shit (e.g. Intel and RAMBUS's agreement a while back)
    2. Ego
    1. Money

  109. A better title for Story: by mESSDan · · Score: 2

    "20 Factors that CNN was paid to advertise for in 2002"

    --

    -- Dan
    1. Re:A better title for Story: by ilsa · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I wish CNN would limit themselves to things that are news. Not things that might be news a year or ten from now. Not worthless surveys that at best waste bandwidth. You know, news. Things that are happening, and which might actually impact someone's life.

      --
      -- I Am Not A Terrorist.
  110. 2022 is next year by jhines · · Score: 1

    Almost all of the items presented are a year or more away.

    Give us some stuff that is really going to happen with in the next 53 weeks, and not years away, if it gets here at all.

    The only thing that looked relevent is that we can expect MS's IM product to cause further virus/worm activity in the workplace.

  111. Picture this by 6EQUJ5 · · Score: 2


    ... a phone, that has no cord!

    ... a machine that does the work of 20 math-crunching calculators, in ONE SECOND!

    ... a decent story from timothy! ;)

    --

  112. Digital Rights Management by necrognome · · Score: 1

    The list is missing something: attempts by various *AA orginazitions to add various DRM technologies to all things digital, including computers. A bill like the SSSCA is assinine, but of course the DMCA was too, and look what happened...

    --


    Let's get drunk and delete production data!
  113. How to hurt Adobe. by EdlinUser · · Score: 1

    If four programmers could write a better Photoshop in two months and distribute it electronically, then things will change.

    Your comment got me thinking. Gimp is close to Photoshop; it just needs a few things like CYMK. So contribute code, bug reports, or best of all: money. Maybe like the PERL community; people contribute money to hire a developer full time for a year. If the GIMP project had their 4 best developers working full time--could they pull it off?

    1. Re:How to hurt Adobe. by jo42 · · Score: 1
      > Gimp is close to Photoshop; it just needs a few things like CYMK.

      CYMK is not something that you can retrofit. CYMK needs to be written in from day one. Think 'rewrite from scratch'.

  114. My thoughts... by DennyK · · Score: 2

    Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    Your desktop PC in 2004: Two years from now, your desktop system will be slimmer and trimmer. Flat-panel screens will replace bulky CRTs, and rewritable-DVD drives and fast graphics subsystems will turn your PC into a movie lover's dream.

    CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus


    Only 512MB? DDR is cheap enough now. Why not a couple of gigs? The processor sounds about right, though.

    Hard disk: From 300GB to 400GB on a Serial ATA bus

    Sounds good to me. I'll definatly be at the high end. My 20GB drive has been full since the first month I bought my current PC... ;)

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    Honestly, the PC floppy drive just might die eventually. I haven't used mine in quite a while, except to create an extra emergency backup copy of my essays to take to school just in case their network is broken. Still, the floppy is the easiest way to transport small files at the moment...

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not

    I wonder how much bigger broadband will be in 2004? I'd think the number of people with broadband connections will grow, if the companies providing it can weather the current recession. I do expect all broadband connections (even cable) to have tiered pricing plans based on speed caps, and to be coming down hard on customers who actually dare to use their promised "unlimited" access, though... ;)

    Video: 3D graphics card with 128MB of video RAM

    I predict we'll see more than 128MB cards by 2004. 256MB wouldn't suprise me one bit. Also, I am sure all of the decent cards will have nice, speedy GPUs. Yummm...

    Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution

    You can have my CRT when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. I won't touch LCD for my desktop until it looks as good (read: bright, crisp, clear, and perfect) as my CRT. It's nowhere close yet. And until I get laser surgery, I won't be running at anything more that 1024x768, and that only on a 19" screen, thank you.

    Ports: USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394

    This will be nice. No more multiple serial and parallel ports using up IRQs, and lots of speedy connections for video and other high-speed applications.

    Input devices: Wireless (Bluetooth) mouse and keyboard

    Not for me, thanks. I'd prefer a wired system. I don't need my neighbor or the FBI tapping my keystrokes.
    Also, I expect that most, if not all, mice will be optical by this time, and scroll wheels and extra buttons will probably be even more commonplace than they are now.

    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)

    Windows for the masses, but some flavor of *nix (probably Linux) for me. With regards to Microsoft OSes, I doubt I will ever go beyond Windows 98 for my primary PC, though I may set up a dual-boot 98/2K box sometime in the future. I am not touching XP and it's descendants will probably be worse... ;)

    The article fails to mention other things that will affect PCs and other such devices, like content control, government intrusion and restrictions, nastier spyware than ever, etc. But I guess we don't want to alarm the masses, do we? ;)

    DennyK

  115. Voice doesn't work. Or does it? by markmoss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From what I've heard, voice recognition is fairly good at this point -- the one remaining problem is that human speech isn't all that clear. ("Humorist" would not be a viable career choice otherwise.) If you read a list of random words aloud in your normal speaking voice (not taking care to separate words and talk clearly), chances are most people would mis-identify a quarter to half of them. Read normal sentences aloud, and the error rate of humans who understand the topic is pretty low -- because usually there are many ways the words could be interpreted, but only one way they fit together into a sensible sentence. But there are always some misunderstandings of spoken speech, because now and then there is another coincidental interpretation that seems even better.

    Voice recognition systems are actually pretty good at identifying the words. Where they fail is at deciding which of the various possible interpretations of a sentence make sense -- since machine understanding of a typed-in English sentence is still hit or mostly miss, the machine is not going to get enough help interpreting ambiguous sounds from the context of the sentence...

    So you aren't going to be able to dictate to your Palm Pilot and get a business letter that you can mail without proofreading and revision. But a human stenographer can't do that either, unless she understands quite a lot about the subject and has experience with how _you_ want the letters to come out. But there was a time when most businessmen thought it worthwhile to pay the wages of a stenographer even though they had to revise every letter and send it back to be re-typed. It beat banging on the old typewriter yourself... I think the best voice recognition now is roughly equivalent to a stupid stenographer; it should do grammar better and spell perfectly, but get the wrong word more often. It's not for me (imagine trying to dictate C code!), but if you aren't willing to lug around a full-size keyboard, or haven't become good at typing, it is quite likely that it will be faster to dictate to a voice machine and then do the needed corrections than to type a document into a palmtop.

    As for why print journalists fixate on voice recognition, that's obvious. There was a time when they'd take notes on a little pad, then race to a typewriter -- now that they have laptops, they can add back strain from lugging around the 'puter and many sets of batteries to the older occupational diseases of writers cramp and carpal tunnel. And they still have to run around finding someplace to set the laptop. So say "voice recognition" and they're all dreaming about being able to just find a quiet corner and talk into a palmtop. And let the editors do the re-write, they will anyhow!

  116. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by joe-cecil · · Score: 1

    In search of a common language: Markup languages for everything Here we go again, failing to learn from history. People, its like this -- Programmers dont think alike. Thats what makes them programmers. You'll no sooner see people using the same language for markup as you'll see people coding in Smalltalk. People gravitate towards languages based on their ability to be proficient at it. No matter how good XML is, people will still use HTML becuase it suits them better, or PHP, or Perl, or C, or Assembly, or freakin Smalltalk if they want. Name a single time in history when a programmer was considered proficient in his art, WITHOUT knowing more than one language. Get my drift?

    XML is all about data exchange and messaging. No, it's doubtful that it will replace HTML but it is does appear to be becoming the standard for business to business transactions. XML has found it's purpose not in web pages but in unified data formats and standards... and will be used along side dozens of other programming tools.

  117. Tools by ka9dgx · · Score: 2
    Tools haven't advanced out of the primitive arragement of buggy C/C++ code, and probably never will at the current rate. Why someone wants to try to out-think a computer, instead of working with it, while writing programs, is beyond me.

    The tools we use still suck, we programmers are stuck in the 1950's, while the rest of the world gets all of the toys we built with this stuff, only with extreme tedium. We're trappist monks, trapped by the bounds of syntax. The time for change is near.

    --Mike-- (a.k.a. one who has seen a hint of the light)

    1. Re:Tools by foobar104 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We're trappist monks, trapped by the bounds of syntax. The time for change is near.

      Meanwhile, tons of the image processing code in the application I'm currently working on is hand-coded in MIPS assembly. It's not old code; it's actively maintained stuff. I don't think anyone did that because they thought it'd be fun. I think they did it because it resulted in a better end-product.

      Use all the drag-and-drop GUI tools you want. I still believe the things that separate a good program from a bad program lie at opposite ends: the overall design, and the twiddly optimizations. A computer might be able to help with the stuff in the middle-- linking objects to interfaces to objects, or whatever-- but it simply can't generate those two main things for you.

    2. Re:Tools by dachshund · · Score: 1
      A computer might be able to help with the stuff in the middle-- linking objects to interfaces to objects, or whatever-- but it simply can't generate those two main things for you.

      But that's a colossal amount of work right there. If the OS world could generate reams of well-written components, tools that would allow programmers to quickly snap them together would make it a lot easier to turn good ideas into reality.

      Of course there'd still be a need for hand-tooled code, but so much time is spent reinventing the wheel, or strapping it on with duct tape.

  118. Re:PDA with 1 Ghz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    >>PDAs move to another level: The 1-GHz palmtop

    >Doubtful.

    Two Words: Voice Recongition

    a PDA with a 500+ Mhz CPU will be able to support Voice Recongition for issuing command or typing simple notes. Corp Execs will eat this stuff up!

    However, PDA's need to be equipped with a lot more of memory (Atleast 128 DRAM + 64 MB Flash + 1 GB Microdrive). The real question is, is there power supply lite enough to power all this stuff?

  119. Display by ka9dgx · · Score: 2

    Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution

    Why such a crappy display? I run 1600x1200 already, and can't even look at the full frame of the pictures from my digital camera any more. I want at least 4000*3000 pixels if I'm going to be forced to look at an LCD. It had better be driving digitally, as well, just like my laptop.

    If the OS can't handle it, I'll just open the source, and fix it myself.

    --Mike--
    1. Re:Display by mojo-raisin · · Score: 1

      4000x3000 won't be here for at least a decade. The current digital interface, dvi, maxes out at 2048x1536... I'm not sure what the refresh rate would be on that.

      But a 8000x6000 100Hz 52inch TV will be shweeet (in the year 2025).

  120. What about 3G at home? by null_session · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen anyone mention it, but I see 3G as the broadband solution of choice in the next few years. Why not a 3G wireless modem (not really a modem in the technical sense, yes, but that's what they'll call it)?

  121. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by tshoppa · · Score: 1
    How about gzipped XML?

    I agree, compressed XML (my favorite is bzip) can save a huge factor in space requirements.

    That said, I wouldn't be surprised if certain big names in the OS business start coming out with "proprietary" XML extensions, just as they make postscript printer drivers that are printer-brand-and-model-specific.

  122. Marketplace reaction? by westfieldscientific · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised some marketing bimbo in a $700 miniskirt hasn't already proposed the abolition of over-the-air radio and tv broadcasting to be replaced by some kind of subscription and/or micropayment per-use scheme with a name like a disease.

    The hot new trend in the LAST 6 months, which hasn't been around long enough to be analyzed in depth or commented on much at a cultural level is simply gouging the consumer.

    There are a lot of recent examples of schemes like these being initially launched. Some, like m$ passport and diddled CD manufacturing being covered here within the last month, but it's much too soon to declare any of them even profitable, let alone the kind of major alteration to the way we as a society use technology hinted at in the CNN story that prompted the posting.

    I did hear broadcast this morning on Bloomberg and CNN though that retailers are complaining about a 26% drop in retail sales for this Christmas holiday under last year. There are a lot of additional contributing factors for this, but it still makes it abundantly obvious these new gimmicks aren't immediately selling like hotcakes.

    Maybe whole sectors of the investor community, business school graduates, and the institutions that produce them need to be ground into catfood. They have a way of coming up with one dumb idea after another without contributing anything of value..

    Remember "The New Economy" and "Profits don't matter"? Most of us were alive in 1999, but the purpose of all that free crap was motivated by the desire to build a large base of users which would lead to user-dependency. They half succeeded.

    A great deal is said, here and elsewhere, about the unsophistication of the "average user", whaterer that is, and beyond talk, a great deal of new funding, in addition to the $1 Trillion USD already lost is now being put into cybergouge, but the reaction of the marketplace based on statistics we have available so far is interesting and gives rise to optimism.

    From X-drive, to subscription Napster, to NetZero, to BlueMountain the ratio of free registrations to paying subscribers in aggregate is 0.03%. That's one third of one percent which is insufficient to sustain publically traded and financed operations on the scale these "goldmines of the future" have been structured to. Interestingly, the statistic bears an interesting proximity to the impression-to-purchase ratio of most banner ads, so get set for further rounds of layoff notices and spectacular bankruptcy announcements: There's gonna be a sequel to that movie coming soon to an economy near you.

    Consumers don't need an advanced degree in economics to know when they're being %&$*ed up the keister. It's already entirely too easy for the "average user" to find himself with too much month left at the end of the money, and these dudes are making impressively astute decisions on what they really need and what they can do without paying for - much more insightful than the thinking of cybergouge executives and their backers.

    So with that my fellow penguins, best wishes for a happy and successful 2002. Chances are it isn't gonna suck anywhere near as bad as some of the commentary of this posting implies.

    --
    give me a /home where the buffalo roam
  123. Hard drives more impact than handhelds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's surprising to see 400GB hard drives having more impact than handhelds. Don't people go to hell for picking hard drives over handhelds?

  124. I can probably only answer one of your questions.. by xtermz · · Score: 1

    Digital Cameras with more pixels. Ever try to explain to Mom why the screen can't show as many dots as the camera took and why good 35 mm fill is still 20000 lines of resulution while the overpirced camera has a few thosuand? What I want to know is why can't these $300 cameras have a lense better than a $10 disposable camera?

    The difference between that 10 dollar camera and the 300 dollar one is the cheap zoom lens they throw in on cameras these days.

    It is cheap and easy to make a slow, less contrasty zoom lens.. but the quality will be crappy and bla..

    it is also cheap, if not cheaper, to make 50mm f/1.8 lens , which has a fixed focal length. Though the zoom might cost the same or even more than the 50mm , the 50mm will blow the hell out of the cheap zoom lens any day ...

    Also, if you want a zoom lens on par with the quality of 50mm , it very well could cost up to a grand (ie. nikon 80-200mm f2.8 lens, $800 , tamron 80-200 f3.5 - 5.6 probably $300 , but real crappy quality and slow )

    but heres the paradox .. customers wont be happy with a new nifty camera and a single focal length lens. They want a wide range of focal lenths so they can take pictures of their cat hacking a hairball, or a nice wide group shot of their ugly relatives all on the same camera...

    Those cheap disposable cameras have a built in single focal lenght lens that will deffinately get better picture quality, and be cheaper to produce...

    --


    I lost my concept of community when my community lost all concept of me.
  125. Not valid for PDAs. by Thag · · Score: 2
    You need at least five-ten hours of ontime on a PDA, just to keep the silly thing from losing your data while you're away from your desk. If it goes dead on you more than a few times, guarantee it's going into the junk drawer or onto eBay. Battery needs will go up even more as people start surfing the net more from their PDAs.

    The weeks/months of uptime you get on AAAs is one of the big advantages of the Palm platform, and a major factor in their dominance.

    The same is valid for PDAs or else they wouldnt sell so many ipaqs.


    I hate to tell you, but they don't sell that many iPaqs. Palm has gained back the market share they lost early last year.

    Jon Acheson
    --
    All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
  126. No software to take advantage of 10+ Ghz chips?! by cayblood · · Score: 1
    Under the heading "To 10 GHz and beyond: Extreme ultraviolet lithography" the author claims that there is no software that can use such fast processors:

    >What's the catch? Software that's capable
    >of taking advantage of all this
    >processing muscle is nowhere in sight.
    What about real-time raytracing and perfect physics? I don't know a single 3D gamer who wouldn't love to have such power available to him.
  127. X86 goes 64 bit by MikeD83 · · Score: 1

    Sure, Intel's Itanium is out but no one is taking that seriously in the desktop market. Way too pricey for most users. AMD's 64 bit chip code named Hammer will come out in the first quarter of 2002. This is when the rest of us will see 64 bit computing.

  128. power needs by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 1


    anyone else find it ridiculous that both the 400 gig drives and 100 times faster processors are dismissed as "too powerful for people to need"

    bring on the obscenely powerful computers for obscenely low prices, please! I do digital audio stuff and I would LOVE a 400 gig drive and a processor that's equivelent to a 50 gighertz G4, with appropriately fast system/memory buses...

    it'd be nice to manipulate a large number of channels of stereo 24 bit 96khz audio doing massive fft effects on them, all in real time, from a laptop.

  129. Re:My wish list - SMP by twms2h · · Score: 1

    Just one comment on SMP:

    Even if no applications can use it to speed up the processing of the application in the foreground, SMP is very nice to make the whole system more responsive. If one program hogs all of the power of one CPU there is still a second (third/fourth...) that will run the other programs on the machine.

    I used to have an SMP machine with Windows NT for software development and then switched to one with a three times faster single processor. It didn't really feel faster due to my mouse moving and the windows scrolling less smooth.

    And that is even true when playing games. I started off playing Total Annihilation under Win95 on a fast box and later, when DirectX on WinNT cought up, switched to a SMP box with WinNT4. The difference was noticable.

  130. Too much CPU, not enough RAM by jurgen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's another thing journalists (and a lot of other people) don't get: more RAM is the best way to get more out of your computer! For their "specs of your PC in 2004" they list...

    Desktop: 512MB RAM
    Laptop: 256MB RAM

    Huh? I have more than that in both today. My desktop has 1GB and my laptop 384MB.

    On the other hand they see a 4-5GHz CPU in the desktop and a 2-3GHz CPU in the laptop. Who needs that? 1-2GHz is very fast... the main reason even todays 1GHz PCs often "feel slow" to their users is that they don't have enough RAM! I hear it all the time... "my PC is slow" (brand new PC with 1GHz CPU)... turns out they only have 128MB RAM and every time they switch between their Word processor and their browser half of the other gets paged out. Duh.

    I doubt that the default laptop will go much beyond a 1GHz CPU in the next few years anyway... what we need much more now in laptops (other than RAM ;-) is lower power consumption, less heat output, etc.

    And I doubt desktops will go much beyond 2GHz soon... servers, sure, some high-end workstations, sure, but a typical home/office PC? Who needs the speed? With what we have today you can process a live video stream while silumtaneously playing Quake at 60fps (with help from dedicated video/3D hardware) which are some of the most computing resource intensive apps anyone has come up with yet.

    :j

  131. PHP by GCP · · Score: 1

    PHP because er...um..(sheesh, it must suck somehow).

    Right you are, and indeed it does. Not Unicode based, so it's too hard to create global Web apps. (Not impossible, just not worth the extra effort.) Most serious organizations are waking up to the fact that if it's not fundamentally Unicode-based, it's not acceptable as a standard mission-critical platform.

    (And yes, of course there are exceptions, depending on other constraints and available resources. Plain ol' C comes to mind, when you are willing to pay for complete customization on every axis. That doesn't invalidate the general rule.)

    --
    "Those who have never entered upon scientific pursuits know not a tithe of the poetry by which they are surrounded."
    1. Re:PHP by Kirruth · · Score: 1
      Thanks for good heads up on the PHP Unicode issue. Although there are people working hard on the problem, (two unsung heroes) they look like they could definitely use a hand.

      http://news.php.net/group.php?group=php.i18n&i=195

      Interesting to note though that PHP is really big in Japan (albeit customised for the local character set).

      --
      "Well, put a stake in my heart and drag me into sunlight."
  132. I need to get a floppy... by Chasing+Amy · · Score: 2

    Currently, I don't have a floppy drive at all in my PC. I was thinking exactly like you are when I built it without a floppy. But, I need to go get one anyway.

    I didn't think I'd need a floppy because today's standard is CD. If I need to send someone files on physical media, I've got a CD-RW for that. If I get new software or new hardware with driver media, it'll be on CD. Great.

    But just a few years ago things were still being put on floppies. And that's my problem. See, I went to install the latest drivers for a used P II system I bought for a family member, and they were only available as disk images. Okay, there are tools which can decompress them, like WinImage. That's fine for getting the drivers out of the image. Annoying that it just isn't zipped like normal people would do, but workable.

    However, software disk images are another matter if they're in some weird self-floppy-writing format, which does sometimes happen. I have a lot of older software, mostly games, ("abandonware" sites mostly--call it piracy if you want, but I think we should preserve our gaming heritage, and if something is no longer retailed at all, I find no harm in archiving and occasionally playing it) on disk images in a dozen different formats. It's a big pain in the ass to deal with when you have to get around writing them to floppy, whereas you could write them on a floppy in no time if you actually had a floppy drive.

    That problem is increased since I'm using VMWare and a trial copy of VirtualPC for Windows. I wanted to run a free (legally, too) copy of DR-DOS I got, but it's in a disk image format, and as far as I can tell--I'm not *completely* familiar with the programs, so maybe one or both have this function and I haven't found it--both VMWare and VirtualPC need to install an OS from media (unless you buy one of their retail "packs") and you can't just copy the DOS files from your HD into the virtual PC's HD.

    So, it would be much easier if I just broke down and bought a floppy drive. Which I did, actually, but being a geek I thought it would be cool to get one of those old combo 3 1/2 inch and 5 1/14 inch drives that a couple of companies used to make, if I had to hook up a floppy. I bought one on eBay since they don't make 'em any more--but it arrived DOA, dammit. That of course is just a side rant. :-)

    But anyway, I'll probably end up buying a shiny new 3 1/2 inch floppy drive just to deal with disk images. Dammit.

    As a side note, I use and love Daemon Tools. Whenever I buy a new game with CD-check protection and can't find a simple way or crack to disable it, or if a new game I buy has CDA sound tracks, I can just make an image of the CD and a batch file to mount it in Daemon Tools before running the game. Very handy--no CD swapping, ever, which will be especially useful when I get around to building an ultimate arcade PC and an arcade cab around it. Daemon Tools is basically a free implementation of a Virtual CD program. I just wish there were a Virtual Floppy program that worked the same way, so that software and driver disk images could be easily and seamlessly written to a virtual floppy drive and then just as easily copied back onto the HD and zipped up in a standard archive if desired. That would be PERFECT for what I currently need a floppy for, and for all such "legacy" uses of floppy drives.

    It's times like this when I wish I could code anything other than HTML. ;-)

    --

    Chasing Amy
    (We all chase Amy...)
    "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
    1. Re:I need to get a floppy... by ubugly2 · · Score: 1

      http://www.oldskool.org/pc/flopper/
      try here

  133. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yes, I can definitely see why you'd rather not use a keyboard to express yourself.

  134. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 1
    ... huddled around the radio listening to broadcasts of the lone rangers ...

    Not very lone if they're plural, are they? ;)

    --

    This sig is xenon coated, and will glow red when in the presence of aliens

  135. Magnetic RAM by deviantphil · · Score: 1

    hmmm....RAM that maintains data after the power is turned off. Sounds like an EXCELLANT oppertunity for virus makers...

  136. Poor Implementation by hendridm · · Score: 1

    Our campus implemented it poorly. They implemented limited access to "try it", and now the same limited access is acting like a reason not to implement it further. There are a lot of holes, and you have to be in specific places to use it (which nobody seems to know where they are), so you can get disconnected by wandering to the wrong place. Also, the different colleges within our University are beginning to develop their own networks (because they want a piece of it too), so there are different SIDs with ZERO communication with the Help Desk. Students will come to out Help Desk looking for assistance, and we can just tell them "Try finding a professor in that college. They might know." Sad. Plus, the University will ONLY support Cisco cards, which are far too expensive for the average student. If you're looking for the wrong way to implement wireless, try UWEC.

  137. modularity = no more "PC" by daveking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Computers are transforming into collections of separate networked modules.

    Most computer components are already available as networked modules: storage, audio, input, printing. Even displays with graphics processors are available as tablets and webpads. This trend will continue. Protocols and software will evolve to support it.

    Soon, processors will find their way to the market as a separate networked module, probably coupled with memory. When you add one of these modules to your network, distributed processing will let you use it in addition to all the others you already have.

    You and your family (and maybe even your neighbors) will share processing and storage resources as you use your own separate portable terminals.

    Your most important data will be encrypted on a storage module that looks more like a safe, set in concrete in the foundation of your house.

    --
    ------DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE------
  138. Desktops in 2004? by iabervon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By then, we'll have the ability to connect a number of keyboard/mouse/monitor/removable-drive combinations to a single computer, and OSes will have enough stability and extra power to handle it. A family will buy a single fast computer and 2-3 heads for it, and then they'll never have to argue over it, because each head is really cheap. In fact, they'll probably get extra heads to have in different rooms, just because it's convenient.

    Once flat-panel displays are as cheap as CRTs, there's no reason to sit at a desk to use the computer; have something laptop-shaped, but attached to a machine in the closet. Everything that is expensive to make small isn't; everything that's small by default fits on your lap.

    Then people will want to ditch the cords, and they'll be out of Bluetooth range, so the heads will turn into 802.11 network appliances; LAN appliances, not internet appliances. You'll buy a computer, and it won't have a monitor or anything; those will be in the appliance. The whole thing will only cost a bit more than having a single unit, and it will be much more convenient.

    Eventually, of course, you'll be able to do things like use your home computer from a friend's house; since everything has been designed for having an 802.11 network between the user and the CPU, having the internet in between isn't much different.

    So, in 2004, my "desktop" computer won't be on a desk, and I won't be sitting at a desk to use it.

  139. cnn=wired? by autoshoes · · Score: 1

    is it just me or is CNN starting to sound as sensational as Wired?

  140. The people factor by bujoojoo · · Score: 0

    All those hardware/software things are great. But the one thing they didn't mention is the education of the masses. As more and more people become more and more familiar with computers and how to use them, these technological innovations will become more important to more people, thereby fueling the need for this Top 20 list...

    jmo

    --
    This space for rent
  141. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    OS X does this NOW. All of those .plist configuration files are xml configuration files. Apple also provides a nice editor for them if you install DevTools.

  142. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by marty-heyman · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Thanks, BrentO, you make a couple of good points. My $0.02 follows.

    The problems with dictation are two-fold. The technology is way too fragile. It is too easily thrown off by changes in ambient noise environment or the speaker's level of stress/emotion. That will slowly improve. More processing power and storage will become available for more robust pattern matching. But the second problem is probably more the point: people can't dictate. Dictation is a learned skill and few people are willing to take the time to learn or to be that disciplined. With a keyboard and a word processing program, you can noodle around and generally do what we do on pencil and paper until it's right. Dictation isn't easy.

    The other side of speech works well. We use it in offices, in factories and on trade show floors all the time. Browsing the Web and filling in forms designed for data entry by voice works . VoiceSurfer by Conversay works. The Web works as well by voice as it does by mouse. It would work better if Web developers did some simple things ... but they don't know what to do and nobody's pushing the isues. Conversay's software offers easy JavaScript scripting or effortless voice enablement. If you don't mind wearing a headset, you may find it is as easy and almost as fast as the mouse.

    The real message is that people don't talk to their computers. Most don't wear headsets or have high-quality directional microphones attached to their computers. And virtually everyone feels strange talking to a machine. I have a headset on mine that I use for voice over IP, I still don't run with VoiceSurfer on all the time :-( ... proof of BrentO's position at a powerful level. We'll see if that strangeness fades ... my prediction is that it's 2005 and beyond.

  143. New title by MSG · · Score: 2

    This article should have been called:
    "We've found a way to fit more advertising in less space and get people to pay attention at the same time."

  144. Slashdot of the future... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


    > And to those in the non-print media, their voice is the most beautiful thing in the world. It's no points for content or relevance and full points for inflection and intonation.

    "Your post is"
    "..."
    "Plus two, inflection"
    "..."
    "Plus one, intonation"
    "..."
    "Total, plus three."
    "..."
    "You have"
    "..."
    "one"
    "..."
    "more posts."
    "..."
    "Say 'next' to continue."

    --
    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  145. Human Factors by 2004? Yeah, right! by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2

    Most technology companies have had a terrible record over the last 20 years when it comes to designing technology for easy, efficient usage. I seriously doubt that in three years things will be any different, because that requires changing the attitudes of the people who design technology and changing the way they think about their designs. It's a lot easier for technology to change and evolve than it is for people to change and evolve.

  146. uhmm by bo0push3r · · Score: 2

    it looks like these projections are for 2002 and beyond. some of them aren't even due until 2006 or later according to this story.

    also, the release of some of the technology they're talking about is dependant on where you live in the world. for instance, in the US,the petrol corps have such a lobbying stranglehold on our govt. that we'll probably be among the last in the world to see any form of usable fuel cell technology.

    i think a lot of this is optimistic at best and utter drivel at worst.

  147. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    PHP because er...um..(sheesh, it must suck somehow)

    I am a PHP newbie (only a about a month and a half) but so far, I haven't found how PHP sucks. I went into the project expecting to run into walls and disappointment, but PHP keeps pulling its weight. Go figure.

    --
    As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  148. Voice app by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    I can think of a good app for voice: a car music player (or anything else in a car that would require a huge menu). You say "Play Powerslave" (and it only need to know your voice, since it's your car) and a fraction of a second later, Aces_High.ogg is blasting out the speakers.

    --
    As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  149. Pretty low end machine for 2004.. by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The description ot the PC of 2004 sounded pretty flat. A laptop with 256Mb of memory that is an inch thick and costs $2000.

    A mid range Sony Vaio can be had today with those specs for $1500, including the docking station. Admittedly the processor is 1GHz rather than 2, but batter life is the principle reason for that. And most people who have the choice today go for smaller machines that are lighter than huge brick like desktop replacements.

    What I think will happen is that the laptop phenomena will start to merge with the PDA line. Most people don't actually need or want a laptop, they want a PDA that can read email and do powerpoint presentations.

    Another thing to think about is that with 802.11b and the like it is not necessarily the case that you need a powerfull machine in your hand. We may well start to see the portable display tablet becomming detached from the desktop processor.

    --
    Looking for an Information Security student project suggestion?
    Try http://dotcrimeManifesto.com/
  150. the myth of computers that are too fast by markj02 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    [machines will be 100x as fast, but] Software that's capable of taking advantage of all this processing muscle is nowhere in sight.

    I find this fascinating. On the one hand, we have great programming languages, tools, and libraries whose only disadvantage compared to C, C++, Java, and C# is that they are maybe 10x slower. We have the processors to run them faster than we could run assembly a few years ago. Yet, whenever these new processors come out, everybody goes back, wastes lots of time tuning their C/C++ code and then complains that all those cycles are useless. There are still endless debates even in 2001 whether Gnome or KDE is faster. The Linux kernel developers don't even want to move to C++

    Folks, those cycles are very useful. Not for some obscure technology that you know nothing about. They are very useful to let you program faster by worrying less about fine-tuning your software and for automating lots of tasks. They are very useful also for making programs safer and more robust automatically by eliminating common bugs like buffer overflows. And they are very useful for component-based software construction, which requires some form of runtime reflection--much better done automatically.

    1. Re:the myth of computers that are too fast by McDutchie · · Score: 3, Insightful
      In other words, faster processors are useful to increase bloat with impunity. Exactly how does this benefit users, hmm?

      Proposal. To make a real high-quality, say, word processor (as opposed to M$ Word bloatware that thinks it knows what you want but doesn't), all the programmers should be limited to 486's, which are in themselves more than powerful enough for the task. And that would be generous. And performance should be snappy on those, and the software should have a modern feature set. The programmers would be forced to leave out unnecessary bloat and program efficiently. The effect on the overall quality, even on fast machines, would be astounding.

      Using processor speed, component architectures, etc. as an excuse for messy and bloaty programming is degrading programming as a whole. Unix had it right - one program for one function, and that one program should do the task well.

    2. Re:the myth of computers that are too fast by OhYeah! · · Score: 1

      You're missing the point. "Bloat" does come from silly, needless "features" like M$ paperclip, or similar. But that's not the bloat that the original poster was talking about.

      How does the user benefit if a programmer uses tools which cause processor_usage*=10, memory_usage*=10, programmer_time/=2, bugs/=2? (my factors are obviously random, feel free to insert your own) The user benefits because the app is more stable or secure, and because he has to pay less for the app (or he gets an app better suited to his needs, because a programmer can afford to write it for a smaller market). As long as the app still runs comfortably on relatively modern hardware, who cares. You might say that those who don't wan to, or can't afford to upgrade to faster hardware are losers. But actually, they are not, they can still run the apps that were written when they bought their system, they just won't be able to use as much of the new stuff. A regretable, but unavoidable side-effect of fast moving technology.

    3. Re:the myth of computers that are too fast by markj02 · · Score: 2
      The programmers would be forced to leave out unnecessary bloat and program efficiently.

      We see the results of that kind of "efficiency": Windows, Word, KDE, and Gnome are all "efficiently" programmed in "efficient" programming languages like C and C++. The result is huge, brittle systems (why does Galeon still crash on exit after months and months of attempts to fix the bug?) that take forever to make it to market.

      Program the same stuff in a VHLL and it may make the graphics a little slower, but it will be overall more reliable and more secure, and often more responsive as well.

    4. Re:the myth of computers that are too fast by JamieF · · Score: 1

      Bloat, no. Abstraction, yes. The problem that most people have with Microsoft's software is that as Mr. Gates is happy to explain, they target current/future hardware and expect users to upgrade. That would be OK, *if* there were high-quality releases that users could buy and stay with indefinitely. However, this is not the case - M$ software is notoriously buggy, and the only fix for the bugs you suffer today is to buy the next version, which requires a new computer. At some point, which I argue was reached with Win2K and Office 97, the features people use work, and the features that are broken are unimportant, so the upgrade treadmill breaks.

      I don't mind the fact that Linux is written in a portable assembly-language called C. I want my kernel code and drivers to be as fast as possible. I do mind the fact that people are still writing end-user and server applications in C, and are still trying to get all the goddamned buffer overflow and memory management bugs out. Come on, it's been what, about 30 years now? C++ fixes a lot of these problems, as do the higher-level garbage collected languages.

      The pity is that there is this constant murmur of bitching by the /. and Linux community that [insert high level OO language here] is so slow that it can't be used. Really? How fast is /bin/sh at running that floating point benchmark? How fast are sendmail rules? I don't see anybody benchmarking the code used for Linux's "make xconfig". That's because IT DOESN'T MATTER.

      Unix gets a certain idea right, and it isn't "everything has to be written in C for maximum speed". Look around a *nix system and tell me that everything is written in C. It isn't. The idea that Unix gets right is that of well-written modular components which can be assembled to do various different tasks. In Unix that happens to be accomplished by components which are written in C, and which are carefully tested, which are then glued together with slower, higher-level languages (shell scripts etc.). Contrast that with Windows, where everything is a C API that is implemented by a native DLL, but you are expected to use C or VB in an IDE to automate anything. That's not nearly as flexible or powerful as the way Unix does the same thing - with slow, garbage-collected, high-level scripting languages. This is why application installers on Windows use commercial installer products (written in native languages with proprietary scripting languages built on top of them) while Unix apps use /bin/sh scripts to install themselves. (Have you benchmarked autoconf lately? But I bet you've used it...)

      The more CPU power we have, the better, because it will allow us to push more code into the flexible, high-level, safe, garbage-collected languages which don't have seg faults, buffer overflows, endian issues, etc.

      If people buld software properly and write performance-intensive code in low-level languages, and write functionality-intensive code in high-level languages, we'll actually be able to use Moore's law to get better software written faster. If we keep bitching about Java, Smalltalk, Python, Eiffel, C#, VB, etc. being too slow for any purpose, we'll still be patching daemons every other week to avoid buffer overrun vulnerabilities in C code, and downloading & installing ever newer versions of each our crappy GUI apps in hopes that this one won't bomb when we actually try to do work with it.

  151. Drexel Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drexel University (in Philadelphia) has had a wireless campus for 2 or 3 years now. It was initially restricted to a few buildings, but now it's everywhere, and as far as I know anyone can use it.

  152. Passport poorly described by emarkp · · Score: 2, Funny
    With all your information in one place, you'll be able to buy anything on the Web with a single click, or check your schedule from any Net- connected device.

    They should have stated it as follows: With all your eggs in one basket...

  153. Linkage by ka9dgx · · Score: 3, Flamebait
    Everything should be linked, from the highest level abstraction, all the way down to the bytes generated by the compiler. If you want to tweak the output of the compiler, you should be able to do so, attaching a modification tag into the source code.

    Programming code needs markup capability, not just comments. Markup provides the ability to specify addition LAYERS (Plural!) of information about something. You should be able to add as many of these layers as you like, they should be able to overlap as you like. The compiler output should just be another layer on top of your source code, if you like.

    --Mike--

    1. Re:Linkage by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      visit IBM alpha works http://alphaworks.ibm.com/ and look for HyperJ, that might be what you are talking about: http://alphaworks.ibm.com/aw.nsf/376583DBD044EE598 8256ACD00318D15/159A4CF51A2AF1708825685F006EC731?o pendocument

      HyperJ is a subject oriented multidimensional languge generating java code.

      Other possibility: www.aspectj.org, aspect oriented java like language.

      Or even further: Microsoft.com, search for "intentional programming".

      Or search the net for "active library", thats the new speak for adaptive compilers where you can modify the language and compiler on several levels.

      Regards,
      angel'o'sphere

      P.S. contact me if you talk deeper in that, I'm working on a language closer to that what you describe then the links above are

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    2. Re:Linkage by kubalaa · · Score: 1

      Somebody mod this abstract nonsense down.

      --

      "If you look 'round the table and can't tell who the sucker is, it's you." -- Quiz Show

    3. Re:Linkage by Animats · · Score: 2
      This guy would have loved the Symbolics LISP machine, which worked that way back in the 1980s. You could break into debug and walk all the way down to the network drivers. You could run programs inside the compiler during compiling. Everything was in one giant garbage-collected address space. Kewl.

      But not too useful. Making everything tweakable at run time doesn't really help in getting useful work done. It leads, instead, to people spending most of their working lives inside the debugger.

  154. I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The future PC will be a lot more different than just "a smaller, faster, lighter, more power-efficient PC with more memory" but it will be a lot more significant than that. we're moving sooo fast.... hopefully soon good riddance to the floppy, and soon after that good riddance to microsoft.

  155. Mod this up by Animats · · Score: 2
    Agreed. The biggest change that will affect most people may well be a whole range of new restrictions on what your computers can do.

    2003: Ebay rejects ads for analog speakers as piracy devices.

  156. OSX and Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like OSX and would really like to see an Intel port since its based on Unix. Then I could give up on the four days I've been trying to do a clean install on WinXP on a machine with a new proc, new hd, new graphics card and new sound. All with XP drivers. XP's problem? IRQ Conflicts. Or memory paging. OR Just a Random Error that causes a blue screen.
    One more try and then its Redhat 7.2 for that machine.

  157. Uh.. voice recognition in OS's? by SilentChris · · Score: 3, Insightful
    They sorta mention it briefly with voice portals (which, personally, will die a quick dot-com death in my opinion), but I think we may really see a resurgance of voice recognition within the OS itself. MS has already started building up the Control Panel and Office for voice recognition, and I think if their XBox Voice Commander is successful (Think Mainstream) we could really start to see a push for computers that actually interface with us naturally.

    Personally, I'm hoping for a holodeck-like experience. "Computer, give me Victorian-era England. And don't skimp out on the bustiers".

  158. Game apps by Animats · · Score: 2
    I do physically-based animation for games, and could usefully use petaflops on the desktop. Today, we have games that show empty cities of blocky buildings with an avatar here and there; soon we'll have fully populated, photorealistic worlds. A few more orders of magnitude in CPU power, and games will look better than most TV shows.

    Outside of games, there aren't many applications that really need much more compute power. The concept of needing a 1GHz CPU in a handheld to work on a spreadsheet, as suggested in the article, is idiotic.

    We need bandwidth more than CPU power right now. TV needs about 3Mb/s, and home Internet connections aren't delivering that yet. (And it terrifies the content providers if everybody has enough bandwidth and storage to pump video around, let alone HDTV or theatrical film bandwidths.)

    1. Re:Game apps by markj02 · · Score: 2
      Outside of games, there aren't many applications that really need much more compute power. The concept of needing a 1GHz CPU in a handheld to work on a spreadsheet, as suggested in the article, is idiotic.

      It's only "idiotic" if you don't understand the applications. A 1GHz handheld can be used for better handwriting recognition, speech recognition, face recognition (from that little digital camera), data mining, decision support, text summarization, route planning, GIS, and data compression, to name only the obviously compute-intensive problems that occur on handhelds.

      The extra speed can also be used to make it much easier to deliver high quality applications quickly and meet user needs better. It took Palm years of C programming to get decent and reliable little applets. Write the same stuff in Python or Java or some other HLL and you can do it in a few weeks and it won't crash.

  159. 2002? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    20 Factors That Will Change PCs In 2002? Maybe they mean 2004? Only about 5 of them will be in 2002...

  160. It's all about money, mod parent up! by slapnuts · · Score: 0

    How the IP shakes out seems disconected to hardware advances. On an off-topic note, I want a cellphone that switches to "handheld/portable mode, and back, whenever I move in or out of range of my landline so I can save peak$$. I know I can have calls forwarded. I also want a cellphone that has the look/feel/sound of the old Star Trek communicator.

  161. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Big clue for ya, gang--99.9% of your PC's lifespan is spent waiting for your lazy human ass to tell it what to do. Hyperthreading assumes that Moore's Law will flatline. It wont. What good is greater availability of processing power when you're STILL not addressing the fact that for most of your machine's usable lifespan, it's sitting idle anyway? Its like code optimization research. As time goes on, it becomes more and more irrelevant."

    Software apps will also become more complex & require the power available to them. Java is still noticably slower than C. Some apps need all the speed they can get.

    Code optimization will always be important, just like Assembly Language will always be important, barring some radical change to mainstream computing architecture. Code optimization, like many other technologies, will become more automated, faster & easier to conduct.

  162. I was going to mod you up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but your .sig is hateful, and a lie. So none of
    my precious mod points will be wasted on you.

  163. Re:I like the specs, but have some thoughts (duh : by hummer · · Score: 1

    re: your comments on wireless mice and keyboards...

    To be honest... I couldn't give a damn about a wireless keyboard as I have no real use for one, but... Wireless mice on the other hand are great to use. I agree with your comments about battery life though.

    I reckon it would kick ass if you could get an optical wireless mouse with a cradle type adapter that recharges the mouse when you're not using it. I suppose the cradle could act as the RF/IR transmitter/receiver too... Anyone know if something like this exists?

    hummer

  164. 5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    All other factors being equal (such as the quality of the lens and the focusing mechanism), how many million pixels does it take before we can say that digital images capture more detail than 35 mm film? Is there a definitive answer on this?

    --
    That that is is that that that that is not is not.
    1. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      A good film image with good optics and lighting taken with good film will need about 20 megapixels in order to be comparable digitally. For shots most people would never notice the difference in unless blown up fairly large is from 6 to 9 megapixels, these numbers of course are assuming the colour range is higher than 8 bits. What camera makers are working on is the colour depth of digital cameras. Single CCD or CMOS cameras only have 8 bits of colour depth per pixel and in order to generate full colour RGB images interpolate the remaining 16 bits of colour information. Digital cameras also have problems with contrast since they're only getting 256 levels of it while negative film grabs about a thousand levels of contrast. Digital sensors also have blooming problems where bright pixels bleed over into neighboring pixels which prevents you from taking pictures with really fine contrast between pixels. As it stands colour film scanners are much better for high quality shots because they have adequate pixel resolution as well as colour depth to get as much information off the film as possible. When 5MP cameras get down to consumer quality that is when you can figure that digital camers really will replace celluloid film cameras. Crappy shots from disposable camers are about what you're getting out of the current line of 1-2MP cameras but for much higher prices. Right now the Canon D30 CMOS camera is one of the best you can buy but it costs several times more than my Rebel 2000 (and uses the same EOS lenses) and doesn't deliver the same quality. Though this argument enters a grey area when you compare 5x7 prints from a 35mm film camera and a 5x7 print from a high quality photo printer (unless you're talking terms of cost in which I still win :).

      --
      I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
    2. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      this is riddled with factual errors. why not try doing some research? 20 million pixels? you're implying a spatial resolution of 150lpmm on 35mm still frame. Have you ever tried to get 150lpmm? Shit, 100lpmm is damn near impossible with a real camera (and that works out at around 9 million pixels). If you knew anything about assessing image quality, you'd know that spatial resolution is a small part of the whole story and MTF (particularly system MTF) is a much better measure and tends to favour digital systems in most applications. All of your guff about bit-depth is wrong - just keep it to yourself next time, eh?

      --
      That was classic intercourse!
    3. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      What about anything I said about bit depth is wrong? Besides I answered the question the guy asked and that was whether digital camers right now really compare to film which they don't. Price/performance wise they are completely uneconomical unless you have a point and shoot 35mm and take more than 40 rolls of film a year. People with those sorts of camers are lucky to develop 10 rolls a year. Here you you will be better informed read up. He says the exact same thing as me and is an admittedly better photographer. Fucking smug people.

      --
      I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
    4. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      What was wrong were your assertions that a) 256 levels are inadequate for high image quality (I have seen studies that conclude that 6bits are more than enough) and b) that all digital cameras only offer 8bit quantisation. Your price/performance assertion is bogus too, as digital cameras offer significantly more value, particularly if many (or any) of your chemical photographs are destined for digital use. And, quite frankly, it is YOU who is the smug one, you claim to be answering this guys question but are just spouting a load of your prejudices while presenting them as facts. Your post is just opinion, and ill-informed opinion at that.

      --
      That was classic intercourse!
    5. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      256 levels of contrast ratio is not nearly enough to match what the human eye can see. Colour negatives come far closer to what the eye can distinguish. Also there are only a very very small handful of cameras that offer more than 8 bits of quantization and these all cost more than 1000$ and then a small portion of those have interchangable lenses and the ability to do long term exposures. If you'd be so kind as to be specific as to why my price/performance assertion is bogus I'd really enjoy that. I'd love to see how a 300$ digital camera that takes pictures equivilent to a disposable Kodak camera at best beats even a crappy SLR camera. Maybe as you move up the rungs of camera quality high priced digital cameras might come out close to cost effective when compared to SLR camera but I really don't see it. I think I'd take my SLRs and my film scanned by professional scanning labs over a 5MP Canon until I scan upwards of 70 rolls a year which I don't happen to.

      --
      I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
    6. Re:5-megapixel cameras better than 35 mm film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh yeah? and what - exactly - CAN the human eye see?I actuallyhave a degree in Photographic Science, and (naturally) one of the basic areas of study is to measure what it is the human eye can perceive, both film and CCD sensors surpass the sensitivity and resolution of the human retina by ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. How many grey levels are in a newspaper picture? Any idea at all? How about a typical magazine picture? Or TV? I could just abuse you, but It'd be better to advise you to have one of your negs scanned in to 16bit precision, then you can experiment with posterising in Photoshop yourself. Try going to 8bit first (can't tell the difference?) then 128levels, then 64, then 32. For the majority of uses, you'll see 32 is enough (particularly if Log rather than linear). Please try and understand that photochemical images are ACTUALLY binary (in the case of B&W) and very nearly binary (in the case of dye-cloud process). Please do some research before replying next time.

  165. Outlook will still be virus prone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and in the year 2004, people will still continue to use Outlook... despite the fact that every 2 months, yet another email worm will spread using people address books. Hurumph!!

  166. printing databases? by cornflux · · Score: 2, Funny
    About "hyperthreading":
    ...the benefits would likely be felt first by compulsive multitaskers who like to play games, download files, and print databases at the same time.
    Uhm.... I'm sorry, did I read that correctly: print databases? Hmm, who the hell does that?
  167. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Sokie · · Score: 1

    XHMTL 1.0, which is the current W3C recommendation to replace HTML 4.0, IS XML!! The next version of HTML will be XHTML 2.x probably, there will be no HTML 5.x, so people that want to take advantage of any new features introduced in the next version will be using XML for their pages. They will just be using a specific DTD known as XHTML.

    I've found that XML is one of the most misunderstood technologies out there, people seem to think that it's a drastic departure from what they know and nobody seems to understand where it's true power lies. XML is not going to replace PHP, Perl, Python, C, Java, or anything else. But you can use XML with all of those technologies and it's really a great way to store and describe large amounts of data if you don't need RDBMS or if you don't want to lock yourself into something.

    Sun uses XML DTD's (or maybe Schemas, I dunno) for the StarOffice 6 file formats (maybe this was more an innovation of OpenOffice), which lets people create documents in StarOffice with absolutely no worry that they won't be able to retrieve their data 100 years from now.

    XML was created exactly because "programmers dont think alike".

    --
    ------
    Where are the slash-groupies? I distinctly remember being promised slash-groupies!
  168. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I personally want to hear somebody accurately dictate a perl script into a voice recognition interface.

    I am thinking that by the end of it they'll be spitting out broken teeth and blood.

  169. Re: wrong.. smaller sized platters is the answer by cb0y · · Score: 0

    instead of using 3.4inch platters, new harddisks are starting to come out in 2.5inch or less diam platters in 3.5inch housings. Smaller DIAM = less seek times, less heat coz of surface area and faster xfer rates.

    So 3.5 inch disks should have 2 x 2inch platters side by side instead of one big ass 3.4inch one. This is the future.

  170. What About DOOM III? by tcc · · Score: 2

    which will fuel the need for about 20% of the mentionned stuff on that site :)

    Factor: 10

    coolness: priceless.

    --
    --- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
  171. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does postscript define things like paper selection, double-side, four-up, and other advanced printer features?

    It doesn't?

    Then why would those of us who run OSes that the hardware vendors actually support with drivers bemoan the fact that there are specialized drivers that take advangage of the printer's features that we paid for?

    Stick to your antique Unix. Keep feeding raw postscript to your printer through lpd. And above all else, have fun with /etc/printcap. It's such a joy.

  172. Considering the normal consumer is not tech savvy by flk · · Score: 1

    What's the catch? The AOL and Microsoft IM clients still can't communicate with each other.

    Apparently, they haven't heard of gabber and all its flavors.

    And in the workplace, IM could replace Web surfing as the goof-off activity of choice.

    It already has!!!

    Presence technology? M$'s Passport? There goes our privacy!

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not.

    How about making DSL accessible and affordable in remote places: islands, rural areas ...

    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)

    Actually, YES I WAS! It would appear that XP is starting to get half way close to what Linux can offer.

    --
    [...]
  173. Your desktop PC specs in 2004 by Khopesh · · Score: 2
    • Slashdot limits me in formatting, I'd prefer to use <dd>s and <dt>s or Qs and As. instead this flows every other comment is mine, the other set (italicized) is CNN.
    • CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus
    • No. Processors will not reach 4GHz; take a look at AMD and Intel and you will see that they are redoing the numbers, nearly cutting them in half. Sure, I agree that they will probably be 4-5 times what we have today, but not 4-5GHz. And 512MB RAM is completely unrealistic. I'm quite likely to have enough RAM in my system to load my OS onto it, and I see this as happening in the next year or two; therefore, expect to see 4-8GB of RAM.
    • Hard disk: From 300GB to 400GB on a Serial ATA bus
    • I'm guessing ATA will be obsolete in two years, in favor of something that doesn't need to spin as much ... heat problems are bringing a limit to HDD speed, which is more important than capacity. As to storage, I think we'll see those numbers in 2002, not 2004.
    • Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy
    • If Steve Jobbs has his way, the floppy is gone. I can definately see the floppy going away in the next few years. DVD-RW will surface in '02 or '03 but some form of RAM stick should be superior by '04. It probably won't fly on the market though (say LS120?).
    • Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not
    • Bravo! I agree that this is what we'll see. that and a small number of partnerships - neighbors teaming up to share really fast services, creating LANS that will in later years end up growing into a fiber WAN.
    • Video: 3D graphics card with 128MB of video RAM
    • We'll see 128MB video ram in late '02. Expect s-video out standard and hdtv (or whatever) extra.
    • Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution
    • I'm not buying one until it's cheaper than the 'bulky' flat-screen CRT (note that the CRT will have to comparatively drop in price b/c who would pay more?); why pay so much extra when I have the space? The world is not ruled by gamers!
    • Ports: USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394
    • plus some firewire-like protocol (or are these fast enough for ext. hdds?)
    • Input devices: Wireless (Bluetooth) mouse and keyboard
    • Ooh, expensive toys - the economy is going DOWN, not up; no need for these!
    • Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)
    • I used to agree with this. And with GTK 2.0 supposedly being functional on windows, this seems very viable. I think we'll see more distros (ie replacements for non-kernel elements) of Windows, like Win98lite, CygWin, LiteStep and some Gnome thingie. Because of this and projects like Wine, I think Linux will be pretty much the same thing (ie compatible to an extent), thus it will still survive. And around '06, I think we'll see some GPL-esque OS dominate the market.
    • Other: An 802.11b wireless network designed for users with more than one PC
    • Not 802.11b but something similar, possibly. I see this as more of a laptop/PDA feature than desktop; if it's plugged into the wall for power, what's so hard about plugging it into the wall for net?
    • Price: $1,500 to $2,000
    • Nope. Remember, falling economy. Expect $1,500-2000 to buy the above (high-end) system (wireless net, wireless keyb/mouse, flat-panel, etc) and $500-1,250 for the system I've described.
    • ...As to the laptop, I really don't think we can say that much about it, since the size of the desktop will be shrinking so rapidly; who's to say what the differences will be, especially with wireless networking (read: small hdds)?
    --
    Use my userscript to add story images to Slashdot. There's no going back.
  174. Analysis: 20 factors that will change PCs in 2002 by Lars+T. · · Score: 2
    ... and how most of them either won't be available until after 2002 (or even later) or are infact quite old (voice recognition, distributed computing).

    And what the hell is that all about: "Next time you call your bank or your travel agent, that pleasant-sounding woman who answers the phone may be a Web server." &ltseductive voice&gt"Hi, I'm Apache, what can I do for you."&lt/seductive voice&gt

    --

    Lars T.

    To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  175. Re:I like the specs, but have some thoughts (duh : by KewlPC · · Score: 1

    The reason that wireless keyboards are being pushed so much is so that the gov't can "listen in" on what you're typing, thus getting passwords, PGP keys, etc., without risking the user finding out about some keytrap software installed on their machine, especially now that makers of anti-virus software are stating that they will not ignore the FBI's keytrap software (and will alert the user to it's presence if it is detected, just like any other virus).
    </conspiracy>

    Or maybe I'm just really paranoid ;-)

  176. KDE/GNOME wars... by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 0, Troll

    I doubt Linux will have acheived world domination by 2004, though. As was mentioned, KDE and GNOME aren't quite newbie-friendly enough yet (though I think KDE is 98% there and GNOME is in the 75-80% range). I used to use KDE, and though I prefer GNOME, I do admit KDE is more ready for newbie users. However, I'm using Debian 2.2, so I don't have the latest version of GNOME (no Nautilus, etc.), when 3.0 goes stable, we'll see how far it's come.

    Geesh...why does everybody have to bother mentioning stupid interfaces like KDE/GNOME? Sure, they are great widget sets, but my god...those horrible window managers! Ditch that and install Enlightenment or AfterStep or WindowMaker! Why must everybody try to lure newbies into using those god-awful KDE/GNOME WMs?

  177. Good point... by s390 · · Score: 2

    that Microsoft's relentless expansion of Office "features" and condescending dictation of how everyone organizes files and uses productivity software is _reducing_ usability of the products.

    With Office95 I could set each application to save its files in a specific directory by default. So I had separate directories for Word, Excel, etc., and I'd use Save-As to place files in Client folders as needed. Lately with Office2000 I have to use Save-As for every frickin file plus having to click up and down the directory tree to reach my file structure. Its painful and it wastes time - all simply because Microsoft _enforces_ their "easy" (dumbed-down, lowest-common-denominator) approach to saving files. It insults me to use it. What I want is software that's easier for me to use in the way I want to work. And that is Not M$ Office. I do hope Star Office 6 will be more usable in this sense and wish Sun would finish it up and finally release it real soon.

    The CNN article's apparent deference (or pandering) to Microsoft's plans seems rather strange, seeing as how CNN is part of that other Great Satan - AOL/Time-Warner - which is positioning resources to take on Microsoft wherever it can in a battle for consumer control of media and transactions.

  178. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by AbsoluteRelativity · · Score: 1

    They want connectivity first, then speed, then glitz. Besides, the typical uses of a palmtop don't extend to high-end computing. Having 1 Ghz under the hood isn't going to allow you to write your term paper any faster.

    I'd argue that palmtops are not really designed for writing term papers (I can understand writing small notes, but a whole term paper on a palmtop would be take to long). A laptop is probably the better way to do that. But you are right that connectivity is more important then speed, but having more speed will help with several things, video conferencing from a palmtop device would be real nice, rather then sending simple messages. Being able to watch news from the web rather then read it, is also interesting.

    Vastly overhyped. The intensity of OLEDs fade with time. When compared next to TFT, they look like shit, perform like shit, and go bad far quicker than TFT. They're also more expensive to produce. It'll be a novelty, but, it wont go anywhere in the end, IMHO.

    I'm a little confused here, I thought TFT (Thin-Film Transisters) were something to be used with LCDs and OLEDs? Maybe you can provide actual information about it?
    What good is a teleconference if only one person at a time can talk? If more than one person starts talking, you might as well be listening to a washing machine.

    I agree with that there is no point in seeing who you are conferencing with, but having visuals (charts, slides etc) in a conference is very important in expressing ideas, as well as being able to point at things with in the visuals, that is linking the speech with things in a visual is also important. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. But dont get me wrong I agree that this is not something worth mentioning.

    Here we go again, failing to learn from history. People, its like this -- Programmers dont think alike.
    You hit the nail on the head. I think technology in the future will make it easier for people to work together not through forcing them to work in a uniform environment, but allowing them to work the way they have to, to get things done, and then translating it so that others may understand. More of an advancement in compiler like technology, bidirectional translation technology, that will allow you to translate to diffrent languages/codes.

    Big clue for ya, gang--99.9% of your PC's lifespan is spent waiting for your lazy human ass to tell it what to do.

    I dont think you get it. That 0.1% could be multiple tasks that are require to be done in a short period of time. In the real world humans also have to deal with maniac humans who like to get things done in short periods of time in order to yank out as much of the cost of doing things as much possible. Its irritating but its something we have to live with.
    Hyperthreading assumes that Moore's Law will flatline.

    Not exactly, hyperthreading can be said to be a part of Moore's Law, not against it. If certain technologies flat line, doesnt mean Moore's Law has flat lined, it simply means we get performance by other means.

    I would hope the future would bring a P2P network that pays you to distribute files and information and do computing tasks, which would include the P2P for programmers.

    For GUI optimization, I think the GUIs we have currently are the product of our input devices. That is the mouse and keyboard, effect the graphical user interface. Have more interesting input devices can allow for new intuitive interfaces. Like 3d motion tracking will definetly allow for more interesting GUIs, for one thing I am dying for more desktop space, and my gut feeling is I would like to have an HMD with motion tracking and a motion tracked stylus/mouse like device, and be able to have a 360 degree desktop.

    --
    disclaimer : My views do not represent those of every one else in slashdot.
  179. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> The number of vowels and consonants are very different between languages

    Eerrr, no. People the world over use the same vowels and consonants, just combined in different ways. Every language leaves a few of them out. Some combine them with tone to change the meaning.

    But the human vocal apparatus is really only comfortible making about 100 different noises.

    Linuguistics 101 is a great course, I highly recomend it to any before they comment on voice recognition software.

  180. My views. Your mileage may vary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Larger harddrives.

    Moving from 80GB to 400GB is not that big a deal, but it does let us use our desktop computer to store and trade tv shows. That's going to be fun. Anyone have the first Tick episode?

    Although, this probably means that they can make a 5 GB micro drive, which would be really cool if it was hidden inside my iPac without making the outside bigger.

    The 1-GHz palmtop

    I would be much happier with larger memories in these devices. Not much that I want to do on a palmtop that needs 1 GHz of processing power. Although it would be fun to have the device do all the moon shot calculations and plot all the moon orbits for all the apollo missions in just a few seconds.

    Organic-light-emitting diodes

    Years away.

    Next-generation instant messaging

    Other countries have this infrastruct developed years ahead of where we are.

    802.11 networks

    Slow, insecure. old news.

    Markup languages for everything

    This is old news. XML won, but didn't change much.

    Hyper-threading

    Funny, I already do this on the apps I write for Linux.

    3G input/output bus

    I'll believe it when I see it. Years away.

    Peer-to-peer networking

    Lots of scalability issues to fix first.

    clear computers

    Cosmetic change only, don't see it changing anything.

    Magnetic RAM

    The old shall become new again. This is just mainframe core memory, revamped. Should be great to have 1 GB of core memory instead of flashram in my iPac though. Especially since this memory is likely to outlast flashram by years. Good for cameras and music players too.

    Presence technology

    Already works with IM.

    Fuel cells

    Gee, do you think the battery companies want you to only spend $2.00 on a gallon of alcohol that will run every current battery powered device you have for a week? No, they want you to shell out $5.00 for their batteries which will only last a couple of days at most. We will be lucky to see this technology in our lifetimes.

    Distributed computing

    We already have this in the Linux world, Beowolf and mosix are 2 of the most popular, but there are more.

    Voice portals

    Years away.

    The electronic wallet

    I think I'll keep on paying with cash or card for a while yet. Call me old fashion.

    The new cell-phone network

    Be nice to have wireless networking based on 2Mbit per second networking, that was city wide... Beats the hell out of 802.11b.

    Extreme ultraviolet lithography

    Years away.

    Multiplicity of megapixels

    Old news.

    Serial ATA storage

    It will have to beat firewire.

    Your desktop PC specs in 2004

    CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus

    You would be better off with an AMD 2GHz processor and 2GB of DDR RAM. And I will be running at least 2 processors on my desktop from here on out.

    Hard disk: From 300GB to 400GB on a Serial ATA bus

    An external firewire 2 drive is faster and more compatible.

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD and -- yes -- the unsinkable 1.44MB floppy

    Floppy is Dead.

    OS on my computer will be Linux.

    Price: $1,500 to $2,000

    I won't pay more than $600 for a new computer.

    Your notebook PC specs in 2004

    CPU and RAM: 2- to 3-GHz chip with 256MB of RAM

    Better off with a battery conserving 1.5 GHz processor with 1GB of DDR RAM.

    Hard disk: 60GB to 80GB with Serial ATA interface

    Naw, these drives will be 200GB, at least.

    No need for removable drives or even CDROM drives, I want a small laptop computer. If I want to watch videos on the laptop, I'll stream it from another machine, wirelessly.

    OS, again, Linux will be my choice, although I'll have to probably pay for windows anyway when I buy a laptop. Damn that Windows tax.

    Price: $2,000 and up

    I'll not pay more than $1200 for a laptop.

  181. Article Title is misleading by Qaseem · · Score: 1

    The article title states "20 Factors That Will Change PCs In 2002 " yet a lot of the items mentioned will not be seen in the PC world until 2004 and beyond.

    --
    /-\ |-|
  182. Re:PDA with 1 Ghz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One sentence: "Suck my dick". What you can do with your Palm hehe...

  183. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by D+Anderson+n'Swaart · · Score: 2
    • You need to remember that reporters/journalists/comentators in the print media want desperately to be in the non-print media (radio / tv).

    Erm...no?

    As a journalist-to-be, I can tell you that my interest is not in TV or radio. I'm a writer, not a parrot. Where voice recognition really would be helpful to me is in dictating passages and editing them. I'm rather surprised at your suggestion that print media journalists "want desperately to be in the non-print media". What basis do you have for this odd assumption?

  184. The non changing factor of 2k2 by triptmind · · Score: 1

    Still having to check each bag, for your sweet & sour sauces and fries orders at McD's

    --
    // TRiPTMiND \\ ... Yet again, proving that logic and reason should never be confused with emotion.
  185. What about AMD? by timanderson · · Score: 1

    Intel Arapahoe? What about AMD's Hypertransport which should be here much sooner?

  186. Yes! Exactly! Here's a writeup by Erbo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    In the breezy style of the CNN article...

    Big Brother Inside: The SSSCA and Digital Rights Management

    What is it? A new mandate being legislated as we speak, pushed by the record companies and movie companies (disclosure: CNN is owned by AOL Time Warner, which is also a record company and movie company, which is why they didn't say anything about this) to keep users from copying copyrighted material without "permission."
    What's cool? Depends on whether you work for a movie company or record company--if you don't, there's very little "cool" about this. The Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (to be introdued by Senator Hollings, R-SC) will mandate that all digital devices contain copyright protection systems to keep people from copying "copyrighted material." What this means is unknown as of yet, but it's for certain that the days of Napster and Gnutella wll be long gone if this comes to pass...and perhaps the days of Linux as well, since it would be impossible to put secure copyright protections into an open-source operating system. The bill also mandates penalties for tampering with digital rights management systems, and for connecting an unprotected digital device to any computer network. If you want to enjoy music or movies on your computer, the movie and record companies will tell you "It's my way or the highway"--and you'll probably have to pay. And pay. And pay. And pay. And pay.
    When's it coming? The SSSCA will likely be on Congressional committee agendas early next year. Expect its sponsors (mostly Disney) to try and get it rammed through Congress as fast as they can, with as little review as they can. Then, the "industry" has a certain amount of time to come up with the copyright protection standards that will be mandatory from then on...and if they can't come to an agreement, the government will do it for them.
    What's the catch? This will basically be The End Of The World As We Know It for the computer industry. The only beneficiaries of a law like this will be the record, movie, and other "intellectual property" companies, who will expect to see more cash flowing into their already-bloated coffers. Meanwhile, a lot of people are going to get harassed for the crime of using computer systems of their choice...and the average consumer, as always, will get screwed. Repeatedly. Forever. On the other hand, it may still be possible to stop this from happening...write your Congressional representatives and tell them why this law would be a Bad Thing for the consumer, for the computer industry, and for the American economy as a whole. Of course, bear in mind that the record companies and movie companies have more money than you do, and so they're likely to get listened to first.
    Impact Meter: 10...no, make that 10,000,000.

    This is just a poor and feeble first draft...anybody else out there, feel free to rewrite it.

    Eric

    --
    Be who you are...and be it in style!
  187. Single-speaker works fine WITH enough resources by billstewart · · Score: 2
    Arbitrary-Speaker Large-Vocabulary Connected-Speech recognition may still be far off, but One-Speaker-With-Training Large-Vocabulary recognition is works pretty well, as long as you've got enough resources available to store the data with all the different models of the speech. Laptops and desktops have enough RAM, disk, and horsepower to handle the job, at least for basic text dictation activities, and PDA's currently don't - but that's a near-term change. You need a real memory management platform instead of the hokey stuff PalmOS provides, and probably one or two more generations of Speed*BatteryLife from now (the earlier versions of IBM and Dragon that approached usable general-purpose vocabularies generally wanted at least 150-200MHz and 150-200 MB disk, which is a different storage/price ratio from current PDAs, but you can do the disk-on-compact-flash stuff, or they could probably produce it cheaply enough in ROM.) And Text-To-Speech works intellegebly well also.


    That's enough to change how you interact with a PDA - instead of a screen interface with handwriting input, you can do an earphone/mike interface, voice input, voice output for many things, though possibly a screen as well. Obviously you'd want to integrate it with a cellphone and voicemail. E-Books are probably way too annoying when read through most common text-to-speech systems, but perhaps the new AT&T Labs Natural Voice stuff is good enough.


    Some of that can probably be done with much lower-end speech-recognition, and possibly with speaker-independent. The Sprint voice-dialed cellphone is a cute trick - the memory and speech recognition parts can live in the server side of the system, but since the system knows it's *your* cellphone, it only needs to look up your few dozen phone numbers, rather than having to recognize across their entire subscriber bases' set of "Mom", "Home", "Work" voice patterns.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  188. SMP vs. loosely-coupled Beowulf, Teradata, Inktomi by billstewart · · Score: 2

    Hear, hear. For personal use (since I'm not a gamer, and don't use my PC as a substitute for a television :-), I don't need multi-GHz processing, especially if I'm not wasting it on patronizing bloatware user interfaces, and I don't need a Beowulf cluster in my garage. For business applications, there are obvious applications like encryption for web servers (lots of SSL sessions, though custom accelerator boards (or less-custom DSPs) are often worthwhile ways to speed that up) or database searching - but that one parallelizes well, and the real performance problems are usually in how you handle the disk drives. The old Teradata Database Engines had up to 432 processors, each with their own disk drives, and a funky fast bus connecting them - the master processors would split up database queries into slices that each little CPU could go search on and then collect the results back together. You could build similar things today using PCs and either chains of fast Ethernet - Beowulf is designed for more general-purpose applications, but much of the philosophy is reusable, and the techniques for splitting up queries can probably be adapted easily enough. Inktomi/b> and similar highly parallelizable indexing and search engines are another point in the loosely-coupled-processing space, though obviously you're not going to run a massive web-crawler in your garage behind a little DSL connection - the processing needs to balance the network bandwidth.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  189. +1 Interesting on the MQR standard by MarkusQ · · Score: 2
    Everything should be linked, from the highest level abstraction, all the way down to the bytes generated by the compiler. If you want to tweak the output of the compiler, you should be able to do so, attaching a modification tag into the source code.

    Very interesting idea; it raises some obvious questions (e.g., how to code the "modification tags" in a way that doesn't totally break portability). I suspect it would work best at the upper levels (e.g. if you could write "sort X" or "sort [use quick-sort] X" or "sort [if count X lt 20 use bubble-sort else use quick-sort] X", etc.) But then of course the question would be "can't you already do that?"

    -- MarkusQ

  190. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  191. Desperately wanting to sell $1500 desktops by billstewart · · Score: 2
    Sure, the manufacturers desperately want customers to pay $1500-2000 for overpowered machines, and make sure the trade rag reviews talk about "Top 10 Budget PCs", all of which cost >$998, as well as cluelessly reviewing "Top 10 Notebook Machines" all over 4 pounds (so you've got the really good screens.) Of course, the last time I went outside my corporate purchasing guidelines and bought $500 boxes for my lab instead of the approved $1500 machines, half of them were dead in a year, but I had been able to buy three times as many of them :-) But realistically, that's WAY TOO MUCH MONEY. Disk drives cost about $100-200 for really big drives, gigabytes of RAM cost under $100, CD-R burners cost $75, and gigahertz motherboards cost $99 with the CPU. The only reason you need a new screen is because the last PC you had used a Microsoft-mindset-limited 1024x768 screen instead of 1600x1200, so you need a new $50-75 video board to finally see more text on a screen than my Sun 3/60 had, but your existing CRT will probably do 1280x1024, and unless you're using your PC as a VOIP phone, the only reason to spend more than $10 on audio features is to use the thing to play music while you're gaming\\\\\working.


    Yes, you could get a $1500 desktop machine if you want to spend $1000 on a really good flat-screen display - and if this were still the Dot-Com-Boom of 1997 instead of the Dot-Com-Bust of 2001 you'd do it in an instant, but this year, you'd only spend that because it's really nice, not because it's actually enhancing your ability to do work.


    The real must-have component for your desk-top machine - it's the $25 plastic slide-out disk drive drawer, so you can upgrade that 20GB drive to an 80GB drive without disassembling the box. (And of course the CD-R, because 650MB CD-Rs are cheaper than floppies these days.)

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  192. How banal. by mapperlord · · Score: 1

    I can't believe that an article this banal has garnered so much attention from Slashdot readers. The article shows little to no real imagination and reads like a sequence of press releases assembled by clueless non-tech writers.

    The message is the medium: Next-generation instant messaging

    This is news? IMing is here and has been for years. This shows that the writers are desperately grasping for something to include. ("And in the workplace, IM could replace Web surfing as the goof-off activity of choice." You mean it hasn't already?)

    Tireless wireless: 802.11 networks

    You can set one up today if you want. Again, this isn't news, at least not to tech-savvy readers.

    Peers looking at you: Peer-to-peer networking

    Again, this isn't news.

    CPU and RAM: 4- to 5-GHz microprocessor with 512MB of DDR memory and a 600-MHz system bus

    Only 512MB of RAM? You can buy that much today for about $100! Failure of imagination, anyone?

    Internet connection: Cable or DSL broadband if you're lucky; 56-kbps modem if not

    How is this different than what we have now? CNN seems to envision NO progress in this area at all. Making predictions is always risky, but if I had to make one, I'd guess it won't be long before the cable companies start poaching dialup customers by offering an economy low-cap package (maybe 64kbps downstream, 32kbps up) for $15-$20 a month. They already have the infrastructure in place, and they can offer the convenience of always-on service, which the phone companies refuse to do with DSL even though it is technologically feasible. The cable company might even make more money providing 64/32 connections for $15-$20 a month than they do providing ~768/~256 connections for $50 a month (do the math). Of course, one important prerequisite for this is the commoditization of cable modem hardware.

    Video: 3D graphics card with 128MB of video RAM

    That's only double what good graphic cards offer today.

    Display: 18- to 21-inch flat-panel LCD screen capable of 1600 by 1200 resolution

    This would be nice, but the Achilles' heel of LCD screens is that the picture quality goes down the drain if you view it in any resolution other than the one it is designed for.

    Operating system: Some version of Windows (you expected Linux, perhaps?)

    Why not? Maybe in three years, Linux will finally be ready for the masses. Besides, I don't see much further progress for Windows. What more genuine features can MS really add beyond those that are already in XP? For that matter, does XP have any real functionality that Win2K doesn't? As far as I can tell, it just adds a lot of candy-colored crap. As with Office, I think they've reached the point where they really have a finished product (except for bug fixes), only they're unwilling to admit it.

    Price: $1,500 to $2,000

    Hell, no. The trend is towards sub-$500 PCs, not expensive ones. Stepping up to make another prediction, I would guess that we'll see cheap systems in the $200-$300 price range as soon as a mass-market-suitable version of Linux hits. Currently, with sub-$500 systems, the Windows software is usually the most expensive part of the system. Don't you think OEMs would like to eliminate that expense if they could? Keep in mind, many people buy these cheap boxen just for Email, web surfing, and maybe a little word processing. Give 'em a user-friendly GUI-driven version of Linux that keeps the nasty command line well away, preload Mozilla and StarOffice, and they'll be happy.

    All in all, the article is not too impressive. Back to the drawing board, guys.

    - mapperlord

  193. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  194. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  195. Tech Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of us have real jobs man...

    1. Re:Tech Support by Bronster · · Score: 2

      Some of us have real jobs man...

      Dude, you are like, so right. Actually, tech support is only a small part of my job - also includes Sysadmin, Devel, and recently pointy-haired-ness over my two shiny new assistants.

      Hey, and I get paid rather well by today's standards or something - I'll even do Wind0ze for money - shit, I never said I wasn't a cheap whore (thought I let cheapslutsrus.com go now that I actually have a steady girlfriend rather than a bunch of messed up semi-relationships for my friends to laugh at) - note to self, keep away from married women, only brings trouble.

      Ouch - bound to get Vickified or something now.

  196. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Whelkman · · Score: 2

    XHMTL 1.0, which is the current W3C recommendation to replace HTML 4.0, IS XML!! The next version of HTML will be XHTML 2.x probably, there will be no HTML 5.x, so people that want to take advantage of any new features introduced in the next version will be using XML for their pages. They will just be using a specific DTD known as XHTML.

    1) There will be no HTML 5 because the W3C wrestled control of the HTML standard back from Netscape and Microsoft and is placing new work in appropriate places (DOM, XML, etc). Proper HTML has been mostly feature complete since 3.0. The only real major addition I can think of is tables, which have a valid use when they are not being butchered by 99.5% of web sites (W3C included). HTML 4 added some SGML-derived descriptive tags that everyone should use but doesn't.

    2) The next recommendation is XHTML 1.1, which is basically XHTML 1.0 with the "flavors" removed (only "strict" now) and some hooks for other W3C technologies.

    3) "The XHTML is XML" thing doesn't mean much. HTML is XML is SGML. They're all based on a tag format defined in a 1986 standard. HTML 4 needed very minor hacks to make it XML compatible. In fact, the only one I can think of is the new tag completion rule. Besides ending single tag elements, this doesn't affect things much since tag minimization has been depreciated for years.

    I've found that XML is one of the most misunderstood technologies out there, people seem to think that it's a drastic departure from what they know and nobody seems to understand where it's true power lies. XML is not going to replace PHP, Perl, Python, C, Java, or anything else.

    On the contrary, I don't think it is misunderstood. By "us" at least. I can't tell you how many times I've laughed at these absurd concoctions for XML: TCP protocols, file systems, database backends...it just goes on. XML is a tag language. It does things tag languages do. XML is a minor extension of SGML to escape the 1986-ness of the format.

    XML isn't the end-all future, but these publications make it seem that way, and when it's not that it's Java.

  197. Re:I like the specs, but have some thoughts (duh : by MattRog · · Score: 1

    One of my friends had a wireless mouse 'back in the day' maybe 3, 4 years ago... What struck me the most about it was:
    a) the size (it was much larger)
    and
    b) the weight (much heavier)

    I attribute that to the RF transmitter (or whatever it used, but it certainly wasn't a fun experience. I wouldn't mind a cordless mouse (one of my mice's cord likes to get stuck behind the monitor and I have to yank it out) if they could keep the same size and weight of my intellimouse optical.

    --

    Thanks,
    --
    Matt
  198. Re: Clear speech by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Definitely... I find it amazing how accustomed we've all gotten to asking someone to repeat what they just said ("Huh?" "Put the yellow cup next to WHAT?" "Come again?") - yet we have no patience for a computer/machine not grasping 99.99% of what we say the first time its spoken.

    The problem with voice recognition systems is we expect them to work better than we do!

  199. RE: Digital camera w/more pixels? by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Personally, I still want to know why everyone's so interested in every digital camera on the market getting multi-mondo-megapixels of resolution in the first place??

    If I'm really concerned about high resolution photos, then I'm probably going to shell out the $'s for a high-end camera (digital or not). If I go the digital route, probably would be best to do it with a digital camera back for a traditional 35mm camera.

    If I'm like 90% of the digital camera buyers, I just want to shoot quick pictures of my stuff to post on eBay, make cool Windows .BMP backgrounds out of pictures of my friends and pets, and have an easy way to email photos around. For these purposes, resolutions above 1024x768 are usually more hinderance than help! Your average Windows desktop runs no more than 1024x768 resolution, and you don't want more than either 640x480 or even 320x200 for a small .JPG to upload to eBay or email to a relative.

    Most people using these higher-resolution cameras end up shrinking their photos in Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, so they're a manageable size to upload.

  200. Voice works ! by MathieuGFortin · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer: I work for Nuance Communications a speech recognition software company

    Speech rec works. Talk to Sears, TellMe and Schwab to name a few

    This article is not adressing John Doe controlling his PDA with speech commands(although we're getting there). It's talking of Voice browsing the way you browse the web.

    We get very high recognition acuracy (90-99% range). Heck, sometimes I listen to .wav where I don't have a clue what the user is saying and the engine is righ on! And with good design you'd be amazed at what voice portals can accomplish.

    The trick with voice applications is to design excellent dialogs. Basically, the speech rec will be good if you know what the user is going to say. That means asking the right questions to get the right answers. Then write the grammars that matches. System that are speaker-independant need to have a grammar specified. Basically a list of possible answers the user can give. This network of possibilety can be small or huge (think of diallers with 100k names)

    Text-To-Speech also has a bad reputation. We all remember what Dr. SBAITSO used to sound like but beleive me, when the next generation of TTS engine will speak to you you probably won't notice. I heard samples from a few engines and they are unbeleivable.

    Take a look at the Voice Web Server. It is available for free (free registration required) on extranet.nuance.com and it works on any Intel PC (yeah, I know...) with a SB16 compatible soundcard

    Then come discuss with other users on our discussion forums. I'll be there to answer your questions

    Mathieu

  201. voice recognition in call centres by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a CIO magazine article with their own "What's coming up list" that includes voice recognition with a twist.

    They see voice recognition starting to really make an appearance in large call centres rather than for the fellow in the street with his (or her) home PC.

    It makes sense to me. That's where (a) there is a significant possible $$ impact and (b) people are already using a device designed for voice input.

  202. Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    According to his biography:

    Biography of Fritz Hollings

    Senator Hollings is a Democrat. it is this kind of moral blindness that cripples Slashdotters when it comes to stopping legislation. I want to grab you all and shake you, the Democrats are just as bad!!!

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by Erbo · · Score: 2
      Sorry, I remembered his party affiliation wrong then. That was a goof on my part, not any anti-Republican bias.

      In the end, it doesn't really matter though, since the movie and record companies will buy off Democrats and Republicans alike to try and get this passed.

      Eric

      --
      Be who you are...and be it in style!
  203. great, bigger hard drives by matt_morgan · · Score: 1

    At some point somebody will have to figure out a new, revolutionary way to back up all that hard disk space. I doubt it will be next year.

    I think it's funny that you can fill a whole room with your backup equipment (see http://www.adic.com/US/English/Products/Hardware/A IT/aml2/index.html for fun). As our computers get smaller, we can use the space for the massive backup systems we'll need.

    I just moved from a 7-tape DLT library to an LTO solution, that can handle up to 6 drives and 72 tapes in a space about 6 times the size of the DLT library. The LTO tapes hold about 2.5 times as much, and are more digital, less analog, and I suppose there's room for another doubling of capacity in there. But it won't go twice as fast, and the other problem is it can take a day to back up a day's work ... of course you can then buy disk-to-disk systems, etc.

    The thing is, these are all gemotric advances and we're going to need something exponential soon.

  204. Laptop Specs for 2004?!?!? by Brand+X · · Score: 2
    OK, before anyone overreacts, this is a joke...


    Your notebook PC specs in 2004
    Your notebook PC in 2004: By 2004 a notebook will be many users' only PC. These mobile monsters will have the power to replace desktops, but will stay slender enough to tuck into a briefcase. Screens won't get much larger than 15 inches, though -- any bigger and you would lose portability -- and battery life will improve, but not as much as most users would like.

    CPU and RAM: 2- to 3-GHz chip with 256MB of RAM

    Hard disk: 60GB to 80GB with Serial ATA interface

    Removable storage: Rewritable DVD; some form of CompactFlash card

    Internet connection: Broadband access through wireless networks in your office or the nearest Starbucks

    Wireless technologies: 802.11 for connecting to a LAN; Bluetooth for communicating with other devices

    Display: 15-inch LCD; video headset accessory for truly mobile (and private) work

    Dimensions: 2 to 3 pounds and less than 1 inch thick

    Battery: No fuel cells yet, but lithium ion units will be good for 5 to 10 hours of life per charge

    Operating system: Windows

    Price: $2,000 and up


    MY notebook PC specs in 2001
    My notebook PC in 2001: By 2001 a notebook will be some users' only PC. These mobile monsters will have the power to replace desktops, but will stay slender enough to tuck into a briefcase. Screens won't get much larger than 15 inches, though -- any bigger and you would lose portability -- and battery life will improve, but not as much as most users would like.

    CPU and RAM: 550- to 666-MHz G4 chip with 1GB of RAM

    Hard disk: 20GB to 48GB with Ultra ATA/66 interface

    Removable storage: Slot Loading CD-RW/DVD

    Internet connection: 10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet; 56K V.90 modem (backup) (Home - DSL; Work - T3)
    Wireless technologies: 802.11b for connecting to a LAN

    Display: 15.2-inch LCD

    Dimensions: 5.4 pounds and barely 1 inch thick

    Battery: lithium ion unit good for 5 hours of life per charge

    Operating system: MacOS X.1

    Price: $2,200 and up ($2000 for DVD-only still available retail)

    ----

    Just to note... I don't actually have one of these. I'd sort of like one, as a fantasy, except I really don't want to have the burden. I have a G4 (Dual 533) at home and a G4 (Dual 800) at work, as well as a Dual Athalon 900 at home (on a 2.4 kernel) and a few 600 to dual 800 range PIII boxen, (2.4 kernel, Win2000), an 8-way Compaq behemoth (8x1GHz Xeon), and a Sun E3000 at work... if I had a cool portable, I'd never escape the damned silicon monsters. A good friend does have one (666MHz/1GB/40MB/DVDw/extern CD-RW) that he got for $2.4k+tax (ADC Premier, the lucky B*st*rd) plus the cost of the memory upgrade (he had one 512MB built in) and while the 550 would be cheaper, the faster bus certainly seemed to give his book more power. Now, I know the costs are lower for PCs, but they don't seem to be much lower for equivalent portables. It isn't like you can (as I do with my boxen) order all the parts through the company's wholesale supplier and assemble your own laptop. And to get 1" thick and 15" screen and optical drive (not in an external bay) is next to impossible. So... when I see nothing compelling about this two-three year off laptop they describe, perhaps there's something there for the PC world. But I still much doubt the 3lb 15" screen DVD-R thing. The 3lb thing will only happen when LCDs get replaced by something lighter (Organics? Would take work) and optical drives get thinner. And Li-ion batteries can't get that light, and power something like that...
    --
    -- Still waiting for the Nike endorsement
  205. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by jo42 · · Score: 1
    I always have to laugh when voice recognition is babbled about. Imagine a modern open concept Dilbert office with ~150 staff, all talking at their computers. Yeah, right, will never happen.

    Run through the office, yelling "FORMAT C:", "Yes!". - me

  206. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by jo42 · · Score: 1
    > I haven't found how PHP sucks.

    Try writing a real application in PHP, Java or Perl. As in word processor, spreadsheet, photo editing, video editing, etc.

  207. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by jo42 · · Score: 1

    Of course, if your application doesn't grok a particular XML DTD thrown at it, then you're still screwed as far as data exchange goes...

  208. Re:I like the specs, but have some thoughts (duh : by jo42 · · Score: 1
    > Wireless mouse and keyboard? Puh-lease.

    I used to have a Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard. Worked Ok for awhile. Then it froze. So I replaced the batteries just to be safe. It kept on freezing randomly to the point that I tossed the in' hardware out the window and hooked up a nice and reliable wired mouse and keyboard. Never looked back - too bad I wasted the $$ on the wireless fad junk.

  209. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Well.. that's not what PHP is for. I'm looking at it strictly as a web-thingie.

    --
    As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  210. Re:CNN is clueless. Here's how its gonna be, kids. by Sokie · · Score: 1

    3) "The XHTML is XML" thing doesn't mean much. HTML is XML is SGML. They're all based on a tag format defined in a 1986 standard. HTML 4 needed very minor hacks to make it XML compatible. In fact, the only one I can think of is the new tag completion rule.

    Technically HTML is just SGML, XHTML is XML is accurate. XML is NOT SGML, while they are both tag based languages, XML was designed to be at the same level on the tree as SGML is, they are equivalent.

    Besides ending single tag elements, this doesn't affect things much since tag minimization has been depreciated for years.

    Just because something is deprecated doesn't mean that it still isn't extensively used. Look at the <FONT> tag, it's been deprecated since CSS came out with HTML 4 but it's still widely in use. But the point I was making was that in the future HTML will conform to XML standards and simply be a subset of XML instead of a direct subset of SGML. I was refuting the contention that XML was not going to replace HTML.

    On the contrary, I don't think it is misunderstood. By "us" at least. I can't tell you how many times I've laughed at these absurd concoctions for XML: TCP protocols, file systems, database backends...it just goes on. XML is a tag language. It does things tag languages do. XML is a minor extension of SGML to escape the 1986-ness of the format.

    XML isn't the end-all future, but these publications make it seem that way, and when it's not that it's Java.


    I'm not arguing that it is, all I was pointing out was that: A. XML is not a programming language meant to replace C or PHP or anything else. B. XML, through XHTML, is probably going to replace HTML eventually.

    Here is a great document by the W3C that goes over XML and how it relates to SGML, HTML, etc:
    http://www.w3c.org/XML/1999/XML-in-10-points.

    --
    ------
    Where are the slash-groupies? I distinctly remember being promised slash-groupies!
  211. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by big_hairy_mama · · Score: 1

    IMO, Voice "Web" and "Portals" will never take off the way the article says. Portals have already been proven to suck in the normal web.

    Where voice shines (and where Tellme is going) is in replacing the crappy IVR (touch tone) phone systems in which we are all so familiar. Imagine, instead of "Press 1 for this, press 2 for that, ..., press 9 for the other thing", you have, "Please say what you want, or help for a list of choices."

    I've been designing voice systems like that for 2 years, and let me tell you that, although "dictation" recognition has a long way to go, recognition with a fixed set of a few phrases already works very well, even over the phone. Well designed grammars with even 100 or 200 possible phrases get very good recognition, no training required.

    It's just a voice-response system, basically, with their own customized back end.

    It is not designed to be anything more. It seems to me that everyone hopes that we'll all be able to surf the web with our voice, but the truth is it is really not practical. If you really want it, go buy a screen reader like JAWS (which is designed for the blind). VUI (Voice User Interface) and web site/GUI design are incapable of converging completely, simply because web sites are designed to use things like color and layout to ease navigation, and VUI's have to use a very linear interface. Technologies like SALT hope to combine the two, but it will never magically convert the web to voice without having some kind of backend conversion.

  212. Re:Markup languages than proprietary binary format by JamieF · · Score: 1

    I can't be bothered to look up the reference, but at some point I read about some folks who tried to make up a binary protocol to be as compact as possible, and they couldn't make it more efficient than a gzipped text protocol. Even if you're within 10%, don't bother, just gzip it and move on.

  213. Frikkin' genius UI design by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

    How do you move something?

    Why, you just drag and drop.

    It won't let me.

    Oh, that'e because you're moving a "special" folder. Get properties on it and change its location from there.

    Stupid! Stupid!

    --
    ± 29 dB
    1. Re:Frikkin' genius UI design by Suppafly · · Score: 2

      That only really applies to like 3 things, the recycle bin, my documents, and my computer and thats because they are really mapped to some other folders depending what user you are logged in as .. and you can change those using tweakui.. altho there is no reason to unless you want my documents to be on some drive other than the windows drive..

    2. Re:Frikkin' genius UI design by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      A UI should be consistent. Just because you probably won't need to do something doesn't mean it shouldn't be easy.

      If they can integrate that kind of thing into TweakUI and/or the Properties panel, why not just integrate it totally so you can drag and drop something? It's not like Windows doesn't already have enough special-cases built in already, this would just be one more into the directory moving code.

      --
      ± 29 dB
  214. how to fix MS Word's HTML by peter · · Score: 1

    Use HTML Tidy.

    --
    #define X(x,y) x##y
    Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X(peter@cordes , .ca)
  215. Re: Digital camera w/more pixels? by ordinarius · · Score: 1

    If I'm like 90% of the digital camera buyers, I just want to shoot quick pictures of my stuff to post on eBay, make cool Windows .BMP backgrounds out of pictures of my friends and pets, and have an easy way to email photos around. For these purposes, resolutions above 1024x768 are usually more hinderance than help! Your average Windows desktop runs no more than 1024x768 resolution, and you don't want more than either 640x480 or even 320x200 for a small .JPG to upload to eBay or email to a relative.

    You forgot one thing, a good chunk of the 90% like to also print out their pictures. With excellent Epson photo printers out there for cheap money, your average user really does need more than 1024x764.

    But not much more. Rarely does anyone print out something larger than an 8"x10", which means the current crop of 3 megapixel cameras are about all you need. But even this is iffy, its tough to get a critically good 8"x10" picture out of a camera (35mm or digital) without using a tripod. And that's something the 90% generall doesn't do.

    The battle over how many pixels do you really need will go on and on I'm sure.

    I'd say we'll see larger sensors in the future rather than more pixels (though I'm sure we'll see more pixels as well since that seems to sell). Some of the good SLR's have sensors as big, or almost as big as a 35mm negative. I suspect this'll become more commonplace.

    - ordinarius

  216. Redmond's profit machine by wavydavy · · Score: 0

    Faster hardware? Who cares...
    I'm still waiting for some decent software.
    Dave.

  217. Re:Why doesn't anybody get it? Voice doesn't work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of a Futurama episode in which the Professor says (forgive me if the quote is imprecise), "my internet browser heard us saying the word 'Fry' and downloaded a movie for us. Incidentally, it opened up my calendar to Friday and ordered me some french fries."

    Determining the appropriate context for spoken input is, I think, the biggest hurdle. But, I don't really know enough about the technology to make a proper statement, so I'll just shut up now :P

    All else aside, security is another obvious problem; what, in general, does prevent someone from running through an office shouting "format C:"? Besides, wouldn't it be hard to discreetly browse for pr0n when you have to speak to your computer? =P

  218. You missed a fuel-cell issue - terrorism by Spamalamadingdong · · Score: 2

    Hydrogen fuel cells offer the possibility of dumping the hydrogen into the air in a confined space and igniting it, making a wonderful little bomb. This would be just the thing to take down an airliner. (It just occurred to me that the same could possibly be done with regular old NiMH batteries, if you had enough of them; how much H2 does one of those store?) I wonder if anyone is analyzing these possibilities, and if so, if the FAA is ready to restrict problematic technologies from commercial aircraft. Methanol fuel cells, by contrast, don't appear to be abusable in this way and ought to be clear to fly; if you're looking for a technology which is going to take off and make money, the one which will be permitted on commercial aircraft seems like a better bet if all else is equal.