Wow, that was a really useless, pedantic reply. And not even correct, there are many millions of Americans living in areas where housing prices are that high.
But pick any value, $300K, $500K, $1M, whatever, the results are about the same. Or just read my last paragraph and don't bother next time unless you have a point. Jeez.
More like what country and/or state are you living in?
In many places a 3-4 BR house will cost you about $1M these days. Take $2M out of that 5 for taxes off the top, and that leaves him with a place to live and $2M left. And he's 19. Sadly, $2M really isn't that much to live on for the next 60-70 years of his life - it's about $30k a year to pay property taxes, utilities, maintenance, car payments, health expenses, food, entertainment, etc. And blow all of that out of the water if he plans to get married and have kids. Take out $10k for those property taxes and $20k per year is way below the poverty line.
And really, even if you want to ignore everything I just said about taxes, housing, expenses, etc. and take $5M/65 (assuming he'll live to ~85) that's only $76k a year. That puts him around the 70% percentile in the US, with the 50% percentile about $45k. So, yes, it's amazing to see when you do the math, but $5M at age 19 does require a fairly prudent lifestyle to last a lifetime.
Oh bullshit. Without Google Maps and Search on day one, the iPhone would have been a tiny fraction as effective a device as it was. Google Maps was the killer app, and STILL is as everyone has learned with the Apple Maps fiasco.
And Google didn't even *create* Android, they just bought a startup once it seemed obvious that mobile devices would be the dominant form of social interaction. What, was Google supposed to ignore that whole market just because *Apple* elected its CEO to their board? I'm pretty sure a CEO's responsibilities to his company trump a board member's, and if they were paying attention they should have asked Schmidt to leave a lot sooner.
Thieves are stealing BMWs by cloning the key fobs after hacking the on-board computer. If there is something valuable to be had in your home, someone will be creative enough to find a way to steal it.
But even then, how much would it cost to start searching for existing toilets that match a given design of plane mostly suited to carrying 20MT bombs? And who the hell fucking cares in the end when it's $600 on a plane that probably cost $500M+ and is carrying enough payload to wipe out 10% of the world in one mission? I'd say if you are going to make someone responsible for destroying the world at least give them a comfortable shit beforehand.
Do you know that toilet seat was custom designed and manufactured to fit in the bathroom of a US Air Force bomber? When you custom design and manufacture a couple hundred toilet seats, yes, they are going to cost $600. I bet the toilet seat on the space shuttle cost 100x that...
And please now bring up the $400 hammer. That one that was custom designed to work on repairs in a submarine without creating enough noise to be detected by sonar. Such a waste! But not as much as would have been wasted if a $1B nuclear submarine was detected because of a loud hammer.
Unfortunately, it's also the correct policy by the state governments to tax shipping and handling. Otherwise mail order purchases would all go the way of TV-infomercials where the product is like $5 with $20 "shipping and handling"...
The issue isn't that they put it on the bottom of the page, it's that they specifically put Javascript in the page to make sure it's NOT shown when you browse to the page, regardless of your monitor size (and instead a giant iPad Mini ad is displayed).
Judges tend not to like when people intentionally try to circumvent or ridicule their orders, especially after already telling them once that they were not following them. Not to mention this is a judge who based his decision partly on "coolness". He's already a bit unpredictable, if I were Apple I wouldn't want to taunt him...
...would have been to ask him how much to get the name of the competitor. Would probably cost a bit, but documenting that exchange and turning it over to the FBI instead of just the DDoS info might have meant one fewer competitor...
Though from what I have heard (from a coworker who's taking delivery of his next month) is the lower end models may not even be produced for a year or more. Tesla (understandably) is just building the higher-profit margin models as long as the demand for them is so high...
Problem is they compared a $100k car (not $78k at they claimed) to a Boxster. At that price they should be comparing it to a Panamera or Carrera S.
Not that I'm knocking the car, though, it's a great car and a great milestone for the industry. It's just at that price it's really not any more accessible to the average driver than the Tesla Roadster or a Fisker.
The Model S's range, rated by the EPA at 265 miles with the largest battery, finally fits the American conception of driving.
But at $78,500 before a $7,500 tax rebate that doesn't fit the American concept of pricing.
Make no mistake, I'd really love one of these. But $78,500 is pricy.
Actually, it's worse than that. The article was wrong, the Signature Performance model they tested (with the 4.4s 0-60 time) is $97,900 according to Tesla's site (and well over $100k with options like premium sound, extra row of seats, sunroof, etc). Even the non-signature performance model is $85k, and closer to $95k with options and charging cables. Those are right up there with a Panamera 4S.
Must be nice for those guys at Automobile magazine to get to drive cars without even having a clue how much they cost...
If a *server* side web app only supports a crappy browser like IE6 that's the fault of the server developers, not the crappy browser they are targeting. It used to be a big pain to support all of them, it's a minor pain now, but plenty of companies made the effort.
My point is trying to have the government step in for the *reason* that you don't like the quality of their browser makes no sense. If they are using illegal anti-competitive practices to get their market share, the government should absolutely step in (and did). If they are not, but companies choose to use them anyway for whatever reason, that is called competition and sometimes in competition someone actually wins...
Until MacOSX, Linux, and tablets start gaining more momentum it gives IE an unfair advantage and pisses off webmasters!
Now THIS is completely irrelevant. IE doesn't even exist on those platforms, and it's absurd to think a government body should be responsible for actively trying to influence market competition for different operating systems rather than what they actually did, which was encourage competition of browsers on one system (in response to Microsoft using uncompetitive practices to limit other browsers).
And if you think *Apple* in any way needs help building momentum you are delusional...
I don't really think that's the real reason - Europe is a minority of world Internet users and can't be soley responsible for IE market share going from 80% to 20%. Chrome didn't even exist in 2004 and it's now #1.
Pundits are already predicting the end of Microsoft as a dominant player in the industry (which *is* a bit of an exaggeration, so far at least), yet they are still forced to adhere to an almost 10-year old anti-trust decision (an eternity in the industry). In other news, the EU is also considering sanctions against US Steel for their dominant control of the industry in 1955.
This *thread* is about skeuomorphism, so his points are pointless, yes, but for another reason:... The main point against skeuomorphic user interfaces are about the hampered functionality, not about the visuals.
Neither of those are really what this thread's response to the article is about. The article was about *iOS* (so high end desktop GPUs *are* irrelevant) and my response to the thread was about CPU and GPU waste due to skeuomorphic interfaces.
And my point was that's not the point and that this thread (sub-thread?) is pointless, and that CPU and GPU performance are totally irrelevant to the discussion.
Honestly I agree that the skeuomorphic apps in iOS mostly look like crap and don't help functionality, but nothing I have seen *in iOS* "chews up cycles" any more than any other UI design.
Think about it - storage intensive applications use lots of server-grade 7200-15k RPM HDDs which along with the required cooling will dwarf the power usage of the CPU. Not saying there isn't a place for ARM-based servers at all, but your example was dumb. Self-education, indeed.
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Read the post I replied to, that was my point...
Wow, that was a really useless, pedantic reply. And not even correct, there are many millions of Americans living in areas where housing prices are that high.
But pick any value, $300K, $500K, $1M, whatever, the results are about the same. Or just read my last paragraph and don't bother next time unless you have a point. Jeez.
More like what country and/or state are you living in?
In many places a 3-4 BR house will cost you about $1M these days. Take $2M out of that 5 for taxes off the top, and that leaves him with a place to live and $2M left. And he's 19. Sadly, $2M really isn't that much to live on for the next 60-70 years of his life - it's about $30k a year to pay property taxes, utilities, maintenance, car payments, health expenses, food, entertainment, etc. And blow all of that out of the water if he plans to get married and have kids. Take out $10k for those property taxes and $20k per year is way below the poverty line.
And really, even if you want to ignore everything I just said about taxes, housing, expenses, etc. and take $5M/65 (assuming he'll live to ~85) that's only $76k a year. That puts him around the 70% percentile in the US, with the 50% percentile about $45k. So, yes, it's amazing to see when you do the math, but $5M at age 19 does require a fairly prudent lifestyle to last a lifetime.
Oh bullshit. Without Google Maps and Search on day one, the iPhone would have been a tiny fraction as effective a device as it was. Google Maps was the killer app, and STILL is as everyone has learned with the Apple Maps fiasco.
And Google didn't even *create* Android, they just bought a startup once it seemed obvious that mobile devices would be the dominant form of social interaction. What, was Google supposed to ignore that whole market just because *Apple* elected its CEO to their board? I'm pretty sure a CEO's responsibilities to his company trump a board member's, and if they were paying attention they should have asked Schmidt to leave a lot sooner.
Thieves are stealing BMWs by cloning the key fobs after hacking the on-board computer. If there is something valuable to be had in your home, someone will be creative enough to find a way to steal it.
Wrong. Look it up, almost 1/2 the union is public service employees.
http://www.seiu.org/our-union/
The other large fraction is healthcare workers. Private property service workers like you describe only make up 10%.
Except its a *Tablet* running a tablet OS, and you can't upgrade the hard drive.
Actually, not really - it's basically running Windows 8 for ARM. Also, unlike the iPad you can add an SD card.
Still pretty absurd, though. And I guess it explains why they didn't release a 16GB version!
Yeah I agree the GP post (to mine) started it...
But even then, how much would it cost to start searching for existing toilets that match a given design of plane mostly suited to carrying 20MT bombs? And who the hell fucking cares in the end when it's $600 on a plane that probably cost $500M+ and is carrying enough payload to wipe out 10% of the world in one mission? I'd say if you are going to make someone responsible for destroying the world at least give them a comfortable shit beforehand.
SOOOO sick of the stupid toilet seat argument.
Do you know that toilet seat was custom designed and manufactured to fit in the bathroom of a US Air Force bomber? When you custom design and manufacture a couple hundred toilet seats, yes, they are going to cost $600. I bet the toilet seat on the space shuttle cost 100x that...
And please now bring up the $400 hammer. That one that was custom designed to work on repairs in a submarine without creating enough noise to be detected by sonar. Such a waste! But not as much as would have been wasted if a $1B nuclear submarine was detected because of a loud hammer.
Bug surprise, sometimes context matters.
Unfortunately, it's also the correct policy by the state governments to tax shipping and handling. Otherwise mail order purchases would all go the way of TV-infomercials where the product is like $5 with $20 "shipping and handling"...
Yes, exactly. His Irish accent is fine. It's his American accent in Taken (the movie above quote comes from) that's not so great :)
The issue isn't that they put it on the bottom of the page, it's that they specifically put Javascript in the page to make sure it's NOT shown when you browse to the page, regardless of your monitor size (and instead a giant iPad Mini ad is displayed).
Judges tend not to like when people intentionally try to circumvent or ridicule their orders, especially after already telling them once that they were not following them. Not to mention this is a judge who based his decision partly on "coolness". He's already a bit unpredictable, if I were Apple I wouldn't want to taunt him...
This is business... what does the truth have to do with it? ;)
Whooshed harder than Liam Neeson's bad accent.
...would have been to ask him how much to get the name of the competitor. Would probably cost a bit, but documenting that exchange and turning it over to the FBI instead of just the DDoS info might have meant one fewer competitor...
Though from what I have heard (from a coworker who's taking delivery of his next month) is the lower end models may not even be produced for a year or more. Tesla (understandably) is just building the higher-profit margin models as long as the demand for them is so high...
Problem is they compared a $100k car (not $78k at they claimed) to a Boxster. At that price they should be comparing it to a Panamera or Carrera S.
Not that I'm knocking the car, though, it's a great car and a great milestone for the industry. It's just at that price it's really not any more accessible to the average driver than the Tesla Roadster or a Fisker.
The Model S's range, rated by the EPA at 265 miles with the largest battery, finally fits the American conception of driving.
But at $78,500 before a $7,500 tax rebate that doesn't fit the American concept of pricing.
Make no mistake, I'd really love one of these. But $78,500 is pricy.
Actually, it's worse than that. The article was wrong, the Signature Performance model they tested (with the 4.4s 0-60 time) is $97,900 according to Tesla's site (and well over $100k with options like premium sound, extra row of seats, sunroof, etc). Even the non-signature performance model is $85k, and closer to $95k with options and charging cables. Those are right up there with a Panamera 4S.
Must be nice for those guys at Automobile magazine to get to drive cars without even having a clue how much they cost...
If a *server* side web app only supports a crappy browser like IE6 that's the fault of the server developers, not the crappy browser they are targeting. It used to be a big pain to support all of them, it's a minor pain now, but plenty of companies made the effort.
My point is trying to have the government step in for the *reason* that you don't like the quality of their browser makes no sense. If they are using illegal anti-competitive practices to get their market share, the government should absolutely step in (and did). If they are not, but companies choose to use them anyway for whatever reason, that is called competition and sometimes in competition someone actually wins...
Until MacOSX, Linux, and tablets start gaining more momentum it gives IE an unfair advantage and pisses off webmasters!
Now THIS is completely irrelevant. IE doesn't even exist on those platforms, and it's absurd to think a government body should be responsible for actively trying to influence market competition for different operating systems rather than what they actually did, which was encourage competition of browsers on one system (in response to Microsoft using uncompetitive practices to limit other browsers).
And if you think *Apple* in any way needs help building momentum you are delusional...
I don't really think that's the real reason - Europe is a minority of world Internet users and can't be soley responsible for IE market share going from 80% to 20%. Chrome didn't even exist in 2004 and it's now #1.
IE isn't even the most popular browser in most EU countries any more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Countries_by_most_used_web_browser.svg&page=1
And according to Wikimedia usage stats, at least, it's not even leading in usage share any more, anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Pundits are already predicting the end of Microsoft as a dominant player in the industry (which *is* a bit of an exaggeration, so far at least), yet they are still forced to adhere to an almost 10-year old anti-trust decision (an eternity in the industry). In other news, the EU is also considering sanctions against US Steel for their dominant control of the industry in 1955.
This *thread* is about skeuomorphism, so his points are pointless, yes, but for another reason: ...
The main point against skeuomorphic user interfaces are about the hampered functionality, not about the visuals.
Neither of those are really what this thread's response to the article is about. The article was about *iOS* (so high end desktop GPUs *are* irrelevant) and my response to the thread was about CPU and GPU waste due to skeuomorphic interfaces.
And my point was that's not the point and that this thread (sub-thread?) is pointless, and that CPU and GPU performance are totally irrelevant to the discussion.
Honestly I agree that the skeuomorphic apps in iOS mostly look like crap and don't help functionality, but nothing I have seen *in iOS* "chews up cycles" any more than any other UI design.
Not for many kinds of workloads, which are storage-intensive.
Workload: variable. Storage intensive: specific example, implies lots of storage aka HDDs.
I suppose education won't help when you don't even read your *own* comments...
Think about it - storage intensive applications use lots of server-grade 7200-15k RPM HDDs which along with the required cooling will dwarf the power usage of the CPU. Not saying there isn't a place for ARM-based servers at all, but your example was dumb. Self-education, indeed.