OO.o is a half-baked fringe competitor to M$ Office. What Microsoft tells its sales weasels to tell customers to get them to feel warm and fuzzy about the difference isn't relevant to the fact that MSO is the better tool. Period. Everyone who's used both knows that to be true, and anyone who claims otherwise is biased by anti-Microft zeal.
>>Should take about a week for/. readers across >>Eastern Europe to scour the place for souvenirs. >> >>The only thing left for the archaeologists will >>be the Soviet-era cement. > >you need a researcher's ID (what she calls >the 'passport') to get in, so that's not likely >to happen
The moment the US allows online gambling, the island nations currently winning gambling website hosting contracts will lose those contracts to domestic competitors.
Create a new document Insert table, 5 columns, 4 rows, no header, with borders. Save document as format "Docbook(simplified)(.xml)" Close document (love how it tells you it fucked up the format *NOW* instead of when you were doing it).
Reopen document. It now has 6 columns, and partial borders on the original 5.
Microsoft is a big, nasty company, and Word is a bloated pig, but if the only self-admitted XML output format supported by OO.o can't handle a simple fucking table then why again should I risk my customers to it?
>Windows NT come out in 1993, please explain how radically different XP is from NT in 2004, almost 11 years later. NT *had* to beat OS/2, and after it did, innovation essentially stopped.
In just about exactly the way Linus is "radically different" from UNIX, which is approaching 30 years old.
OO.o has 17 options in its "Save As" format selector.
It's nice that there's a Wysiwig word processor that's open-source and can make documents looking as good as the market leader, but it's still second-rate when it comes to depth of features and compatibility.
It's unfortunate that people confuse "propreitary" with "monopoly", especially when it's obvious that there are dozens of formats and therefore dozens of competing word processors.
You want to beat them, stop whining and beat them.
>How many other word-processor formats does MS-Word read?
Just looking at the "Save As" drop-down, it looks like about 35 different formats that it will write. Probably reads a few more than that.
I ended up recasting my expense-report forms as spreadsheets to get around the table problem. Funny thing is, the form was originally written in Word, then all I did in OO.o was add text to the table boxes...
Doesn't matter how hard they tried. They failed. The table system is a source of scads of bugs. Most of which are innocuous. But when the first column of every table comes out in reverse-video when displayed in Word, and Word can't fix it, then there's something very wrong with what OO.o is doing.
It fails to write Word-compatible.doc format documents.
Try making a table in OO.o and then displaying it in Word some time.
It's not just an annoying bug, it makes the tool unusable for collaboration in heterogenous environments (i.e., unless you can mandate consistent use of OO.o, you shouldn't allow it to be used, and really, there's no way to mandate its use with MSO being the de facto standard.)
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If you're a tyrant, you have the spread of ridiculous lies on the Internet for its diminution of informative force.
OO.o is a half-baked fringe competitor to M$ Office. What Microsoft tells its sales weasels to tell customers to get them to feel warm and fuzzy about the difference isn't relevant to the fact that MSO is the better tool. Period. Everyone who's used both knows that to be true, and anyone who claims otherwise is biased by anti-Microft zeal.
You can't even open the code files because looking at your own information now constitutes "reverse engineering" the interfaces without a license.
Unless you're able to type the code over from memory, you're screwed.
>>Should take about a week for /. readers across
>>Eastern Europe to scour the place for souvenirs.
>>
>>The only thing left for the archaeologists will
>>be the Soviet-era cement.
>
>you need a researcher's ID (what she calls
>the 'passport') to get in, so that's not likely
>to happen
Badges? We don' need no steenkin' Badges!
And even if we do, how hard could they be to counterfeit?
Without ID, I give it two weeks. With fake ID, they could probably load the reactor cap on a truck and hump it out.
Should take about a week for /. readers across Eastern Europe to scour the place for souvenirs.
The only thing left for the archaeologists will be the Soviet-era cement.
...boshemoi...
Microsoft just got the EU to allow them to collect royalties on reverse-engineered APIs. And it only cost them $614 million.
My Legoherpes Simplex III broke out a couple of years ago when the Star Wars legos started to hit the market.
It led to my catching eBayphylis, which led to PayPal Withdrawal symptoms.
Now I limit myself to 4 "Funny" karma points a week. They don't do anything, but somehow they still make me feel good.
Please. Help me out by modding me "Insightful" instead of just "Funny".
Which makes me think, maybe it's not the island nations' intention to win this battle; it's the online gamblers who rent websites there...
(That's the problem with mixing law and politics; you never know who's using whom and why.)
The moment the US allows online gambling, the island nations currently winning gambling website hosting contracts will lose those contracts to domestic competitors.
The only thing keeping them alive is prohibition.
We have a treaty with Australia on intellectual property.
It's called the Berne Convention.
So at this point whatever it is one nation does when another nation fails to uphold the Berne Convention should, presumably, kick in.
But, clearly, the Bush administration is still trying to find "the real killers", so they don't have time to get jiggy with Australia.
Stay tuned for further developments.
Christ on a cracker.
OO.o can't even read the things it writes itself.
Create a new document
Insert table, 5 columns, 4 rows, no header, with borders.
Save document as format "Docbook(simplified)(.xml)"
Close document (love how it tells you it fucked up the format *NOW* instead of when you were doing it).
Reopen document.
It now has 6 columns, and partial borders on the original 5.
Microsoft is a big, nasty company, and Word is a bloated pig, but if the only self-admitted XML output format supported by OO.o can't handle a simple fucking table then why again should I risk my customers to it?
Someone is sending multiple "troll" hits to this post.
At one time, it was (Score:5, Insightful).
Must be a haxx0r at S\/N who doesn't like his baby being outed for a fork-tailed demon.
>But not as scary as a world without doors
They took the doors off our building yesterday.
And haven't put them back yet.
It's kinda nice.
>Windows NT come out in 1993, please explain how radically different XP is from NT in 2004, almost 11 years later. NT *had* to beat OS/2, and after it did, innovation essentially stopped.
In just about exactly the way Linus is "radically different" from UNIX, which is approaching 30 years old.
Sure, because Windows 95, 98, NT, Me, 2000, and XP prove they ignored the graphical operating system market after they dominated and decimated it...
Sure. Because Windows 95, 98, NT, Me, 2000, and XP prove they ignored the operating system market after dominating and decimating it...
>[Word will save in] 35 different formats
OO.o has 17 options in its "Save As" format selector.
It's nice that there's a Wysiwig word processor that's open-source and can make documents looking as good as the market leader, but it's still second-rate when it comes to depth of features and compatibility.
It's unfortunate that people confuse "propreitary" with "monopoly", especially when it's obvious that there are dozens of formats and therefore dozens of competing word processors.
You want to beat them, stop whining and beat them.
>How many other word-processor formats does MS-Word read?
Just looking at the "Save As" drop-down, it looks like about 35 different formats that it will write. Probably reads a few more than that.
I ended up recasting my expense-report forms as spreadsheets to get around the table problem. Funny thing is, the form was originally written in Word, then all I did in OO.o was add text to the table boxes...
No, thank you for the anecdotal evidence.
I can't use a tool that "sorta works, some of the time".
It is worth a couple hundred dollars every few years to have a tool that I know won't put black bars in my tables when my customer opens my documents.
Doesn't matter how hard they tried. They failed. The table system is a source of scads of bugs. Most of which are innocuous. But when the first column of every table comes out in reverse-video when displayed in Word, and Word can't fix it, then there's something very wrong with what OO.o is doing.
OO.o doesn't provide basic functionality.
.doc format documents.
It fails to write Word-compatible
Try making a table in OO.o and then displaying it in Word some time.
It's not just an annoying bug, it makes the tool unusable for collaboration in heterogenous environments (i.e., unless you can mandate consistent use of OO.o, you shouldn't allow it to be used, and really, there's no way to mandate its use with MSO being the de facto standard.)
No, a powerful car commercial would have delivered you to the door of a Nissan dealership.
How is it the Internet can take preternatural losers like ESR and Howard Rheingold and make them celebrities?