Yeah, how's that working out for you now? Is Honest Imran's Billing Emporium (New York, Paris, Mumbai) going to refund you the lost goodwill as well as all those chargeback bills?
And note to the easily bamboozled: the significant cost here is energy, not dollars. Will you get and use more energy from these things over the course of their working life than you put in to make them? Are they generators, or just very slow discharge batteries?
Rarely asked outside of Slashdot. Don't overestimate how insignificant we are. When's the last time you heard a policy maker asking it?
Apple has, what, 9% of the market?
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So, it's significant how? Oh, right, everyone in the media owns one, and just can't stop yammering about how totally awesome they are for, like, media stuff and junk.
That's like Slashdotters declaring that this will be the year of Linux On The Netbook because we're all packing EEEs with Ubuntu remix. One swallow makes neither a summer nor a porn movie.
I'm not saying anything, I'm asking a question. It's one which is rarely asked, and almost never answered. You'll note that I discounted (dollar) "cost" right up front - I'm only interested in energy. You'll further note that the article explicitly talks about using BOBs as storage for renewable generation.
If you don't know the answer, you could just say so.
I'm super-serial here. The purpose of these games isn't to teach people to think up original solutions, it's to indoctrinate them into the groupthink of the person that commissioned the game, and decided the rules and the criteria for winning.
Maybe that makes players think about the issue, but that's incidental. Rewarding Goodthink does not make for radical "solutions" like (for example) Lovelock's answer to the alleged climate change problem: build walls round the big cities and "enjoy life while you can". I don't see that appearing in the success path of any eco-washing game any time soon.
I agree. Sanjeev can't be trusted to make those sort of choices. Let's keep him impoverished until we can figure out how to make him smarter and less greedy than Joe Baltimore. I'm thinking maybe mass hypnosis, or perhaps put something in the water supply. What's your idea?
Not based on the $25 million sticker price: that's just bullshit accounting. I'd like to know the Joules expended in the extraction, refining, shipping and construction of this thing, including the energy required by the workers, then let's compare that to the energy that it will actually store and deliver over its working life.
Eventually, we are going to have to start asking these questions about "renewable" generation and storage, because you can only hide a net energy loss in the books for so long, until the fossil fuels that subsidise these energy sinks start to run out.
To be fair, the error is in the original article, which the submitter just ripped off verbatim, and kdawson posted without even cursory checking (apologies for the obviousness of that).
You know a good way to "work out" work out how to do something? You stop paying people to theorise about how you might do it, and you start the countdown to doing it.
A month is a win for DRM. They just need to keep it uncrackable for long enough to shift their initial inventory, while the ad campaign is running and Sergey Cracksalotski has just gotta have it one way or another. After that, it's gravy.
If I intend to rob a bank, but instead bust into a police station with a sign outside saying "BADLY GUARDED BANK (NOT A POLICE STATION)", is that no-harm, no-foul simply because I'm incompetent?
The guy set out to methodically groom what he thought was a 13 year old girl for sex. If you think a 30 year computer ban is too harsh, then fine, let's just throw him back in jail instead. Happy now?
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It's not entirely clear, but I hope that the owner tells them to suck on it, and insists on a full refund or repair.
Geology fail: it's not a cave, it's a Sarlacc pit.
I'm seeing a lot of talk about figuring out how to do things that we might want to do, maybe, at some point.
You know why Apollo worked? We set goals and a date, and the figuring out took care of itself.
Also, have you seen 30 Days of Night? For "scary" read "Rraaaaargh! [Run run run] Aaaaargh! [Bang bang] Grrrraaaar! [splatter]".
Come to think of it 30 Days of Night felt like a movie of a game, so I guess the back-propagation back makes sense.
Yeah, how's that working out for you now? Is Honest Imran's Billing Emporium (New York, Paris, Mumbai) going to refund you the lost goodwill as well as all those chargeback bills?
And note to the easily bamboozled: the significant cost here is energy, not dollars. Will you get and use more energy from these things over the course of their working life than you put in to make them? Are they generators, or just very slow discharge batteries?
Also "makes". Y'all one of those consumers? Some of us like to produce software.
Using trademarks to denigrate the opposition? My, my: I guess that shows exactly how much Microsoft respects (other people's) "intellectual property".
US DMCA: 1998
UK: Copyright, Designs and Patents Act: 1988
Hush now, grown ups are talking. You still have a lot to learn about oppressing your populace.
Rarely asked outside of Slashdot. Don't overestimate how insignificant we are. When's the last time you heard a policy maker asking it?
So, it's significant how? Oh, right, everyone in the media owns one, and just can't stop yammering about how totally awesome they are for, like, media stuff and junk.
That's like Slashdotters declaring that this will be the year of Linux On The Netbook because we're all packing EEEs with Ubuntu remix. One swallow makes neither a summer nor a porn movie.
Most routers have the MAC address printed on a sticker on the device itself - I assume that's what the Best Buy drones compared.
I'm not saying anything, I'm asking a question. It's one which is rarely asked, and almost never answered. You'll note that I discounted (dollar) "cost" right up front - I'm only interested in energy. You'll further note that the article explicitly talks about using BOBs as storage for renewable generation.
If you don't know the answer, you could just say so.
I'm super-serial here. The purpose of these games isn't to teach people to think up original solutions, it's to indoctrinate them into the groupthink of the person that commissioned the game, and decided the rules and the criteria for winning.
Maybe that makes players think about the issue, but that's incidental. Rewarding Goodthink does not make for radical "solutions" like (for example) Lovelock's answer to the alleged climate change problem: build walls round the big cities and "enjoy life while you can". I don't see that appearing in the success path of any eco-washing game any time soon.
I agree. Sanjeev can't be trusted to make those sort of choices. Let's keep him impoverished until we can figure out how to make him smarter and less greedy than Joe Baltimore. I'm thinking maybe mass hypnosis, or perhaps put something in the water supply. What's your idea?
Perhaps he has a son to avenge him.
Hmm. Or given his geek credentials, more likely not.
Not based on the $25 million sticker price: that's just bullshit accounting. I'd like to know the Joules expended in the extraction, refining, shipping and construction of this thing, including the energy required by the workers, then let's compare that to the energy that it will actually store and deliver over its working life.
Eventually, we are going to have to start asking these questions about "renewable" generation and storage, because you can only hide a net energy loss in the books for so long, until the fossil fuels that subsidise these energy sinks start to run out.
Level up! You are now 100% Ecomental-Think compliant!
To be fair, the error is in the original article, which the submitter just ripped off verbatim, and kdawson posted without even cursory checking (apologies for the obviousness of that).
You know a good way to "work out" work out how to do something? You stop paying people to theorise about how you might do it, and you start the countdown to doing it.
A month is a win for DRM. They just need to keep it uncrackable for long enough to shift their initial inventory, while the ad campaign is running and Sergey Cracksalotski has just gotta have it one way or another. After that, it's gravy.
So, if I thought I was planning to rob a bank, but it turned out to be a police station in disguise, you'd argue no-harm-no-foul?
If I intend to rob a bank, but instead bust into a police station with a sign outside saying "BADLY GUARDED BANK (NOT A POLICE STATION)", is that no-harm, no-foul simply because I'm incompetent?
The best defence will be to have obsolete military hardware, i.e. be an opponent that the US is likely to pick a fight with.
The guy set out to methodically groom what he thought was a 13 year old girl for sex. If you think a 30 year computer ban is too harsh, then fine, let's just throw him back in jail instead. Happy now?