I'm a fairly long-time Slashdot member. My user number isn't anything to write home about, but I've been here enough years to make some observations. You know what my general, detached impression is? Slashdot doesn't lean left. It's actually full of misguided libertarians who haven't quite grown up yet.
As an independent, I can state with authority that the right has veered wildly toward batshit crazy in the last four years. Honestly, I genuinely think it's racism that they're too chickenshit to actually cop to.
Hate to break it to you true believers, but the only reason you are reading about just-above-minimum wage retail employees drinking, stealing, and fucking around is because of true believers like yourself.
You can try to point fingers at gizmodo, but the root cause is really you.
Logic fail. And by "logic fail", I mean "really, really stupid". It's an asinine statement lacking any sort of thought or reason.
And it's also not apples and oranges because spammers aren't people...they are bots.
That's often true, but not 100%. I have basically two classes of spammer on my own forum. The bots are easy to detect with some clever coding (hint: bots only read HTML) but the human-driven spammers usually get through, only to be quickly banned. The bot attempts outnumber the human attempts by about 100 to 1, but the humans are far more likely to be successful.
As a forum owner (for a forum with an entirely different subject matter) your story sounds... unlikely. Extremely one-sided, at best. I get this kind of thing a lot on my own forum -- people who act like asshats (and are usually contrary at the same time) who point the finger at some kind of intolerance on the forum admin / moderators part. Usually, though, it's not that they mentioned some "unspeakable" word -- it's that they acted like asshats while doing it.
That's a pretty clear violation of the USB spec. Just because Android does it doesn't make it a good practice.
The iPod Nano is the reverse -- they co-opted the headphone jack to speak USB. I realize that you probably don't recognize the difference between these two ideas, but to some people the distinction matters.
I completely disagree that a USB controller and supporting chipset isn't an option, a quick pop into Wal-Mart will show you any number of ridiculously cheap USB devices.
You can disagree all you want. I'll bet you aren't in the device business, though.
You have established that you know how to quote the rules of prior art for design patents. You have not, however, demonstrated that you understand what it actually says. The assertion that Apple copied a picture frame is (and therefore the patent is invalid) is so laughable that it's really pointless to keep arguing with you. You won't understand because you refuse to.
For your own sake, please do some research on what design patents do before continuing this line of attack. You are making yourself look extremely foolish by trying to point out prior art in a way that isn't actually relevant to the discussion of design patents.
I guess you can add "ad hominem" to your list of used logical fallacies.
Do you have a specific counter argument that is not also a verbal slur to bring to the table, or is this debate over?
Honestly, the argument was over when you presented logic that was completely irrelevant and showed a marked lack of understanding of what design patents do.
And that, sir, is most assuredly not an ad hominem attack. You simply do not have any idea what you're talking about.
I read the whole post. And despite the fact that I am not a lawyer, I know enough about patents to know that you do not. Despite Samsung's proclamations that this case is about a rectangle, it is not. Design patents are quite a bit more specific than that. Further, Apple is not claiming to have "invented the rectangle" (as you assert) because that's not what design patents do.
Basically, you've bought into Samsung's not-very-clever propaganda about this case. I'm kind of surprised that smart people fell for that, actually.
I would argue that apple's design patent is invalid.
Here is why, and it has nothing to do with opinion of apple:
Further proof that slashdot users are completely incapable of understanding patents. Which is odd, considering that slashdot users aren't actually stupid.
Then clearly you do not understand the function of a design patent. That's fairly typical for slashdot users, though, who all think they are legal experts.
"people to whom issues like that matter immensely"
Who died and put you in charge?
Illegal invasion of our border *actually* matters to those of us who are citizens and those of us who play by the rules.
Any questions?
Yes, I've got one: how come you keep posting as an anonymous coward? Are you so ashamed of your right-wing opinions that you're afraid to attach even a pseudonym to your words?
But.. the majority of the US is not in Arizona. That's why it's called Arizona. It's a different place from where you live. If you don't live there, why do you care?
Because I think that legislated discrimination anywhere in the United States is morally, ethically, and constitutionally wrong. As an American, I hold my fellow Americans to the ideal that all men are created equally.
Frankly, the fact that I have to explain to you why I care is appalling, and demonstrates exactly how out of step Arizona is.
Speaking only for myself, I have a problem with Arizona enacting (and enforcing) laws that are plainly discriminatory and largely driven by old white men angrily brandishing guns. Arizona is, from my perspective, out of step with the vast majority of These United States.
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That's seriously fucked up.
Undo.
I'm a fairly long-time Slashdot member. My user number isn't anything to write home about, but I've been here enough years to make some observations. You know what my general, detached impression is? Slashdot doesn't lean left. It's actually full of misguided libertarians who haven't quite grown up yet.
As an independent, I can state with authority that the right has veered wildly toward batshit crazy in the last four years. Honestly, I genuinely think it's racism that they're too chickenshit to actually cop to.
It most certainly is.
Hate to break it to you true believers, but the only reason you are reading about just-above-minimum wage retail employees drinking, stealing, and fucking around is because of true believers like yourself.
You can try to point fingers at gizmodo, but the root cause is really you.
Logic fail. And by "logic fail", I mean "really, really stupid". It's an asinine statement lacking any sort of thought or reason.
And it's also not apples and oranges because spammers aren't people...they are bots.
That's often true, but not 100%. I have basically two classes of spammer on my own forum. The bots are easy to detect with some clever coding (hint: bots only read HTML) but the human-driven spammers usually get through, only to be quickly banned. The bot attempts outnumber the human attempts by about 100 to 1, but the humans are far more likely to be successful.
As a forum owner (for a forum with an entirely different subject matter) your story sounds... unlikely. Extremely one-sided, at best. I get this kind of thing a lot on my own forum -- people who act like asshats (and are usually contrary at the same time) who point the finger at some kind of intolerance on the forum admin / moderators part. Usually, though, it's not that they mentioned some "unspeakable" word -- it's that they acted like asshats while doing it.
I'd bet real money that you were an asshat.
That's a pretty clear violation of the USB spec. Just because Android does it doesn't make it a good practice.
The iPod Nano is the reverse -- they co-opted the headphone jack to speak USB. I realize that you probably don't recognize the difference between these two ideas, but to some people the distinction matters.
I completely disagree that a USB controller and supporting chipset isn't an option, a quick pop into Wal-Mart will show you any number of ridiculously cheap USB devices.
You can disagree all you want. I'll bet you aren't in the device business, though.
the major change I propose is NOT USING THE FUCKING STEERING WHEEL FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN STEERING, IDIOT!
Your complete inability to recognize humor is surprising, even by slashdot standards.
You have established that you know how to quote the rules of prior art for design patents. You have not, however, demonstrated that you understand what it actually says. The assertion that Apple copied a picture frame is (and therefore the patent is invalid) is so laughable that it's really pointless to keep arguing with you. You won't understand because you refuse to.
And that's called willful ignorance.
For your own sake, please do some research on what design patents do before continuing this line of attack. You are making yourself look extremely foolish by trying to point out prior art in a way that isn't actually relevant to the discussion of design patents.
I guess you can add "ad hominem" to your list of used logical fallacies.
Do you have a specific counter argument that is not also a verbal slur to bring to the table, or is this debate over?
Honestly, the argument was over when you presented logic that was completely irrelevant and showed a marked lack of understanding of what design patents do.
And that, sir, is most assuredly not an ad hominem attack. You simply do not have any idea what you're talking about.
Do try to read the whole post.
I read the whole post. And despite the fact that I am not a lawyer, I know enough about patents to know that you do not. Despite Samsung's proclamations that this case is about a rectangle, it is not. Design patents are quite a bit more specific than that. Further, Apple is not claiming to have "invented the rectangle" (as you assert) because that's not what design patents do.
Basically, you've bought into Samsung's not-very-clever propaganda about this case. I'm kind of surprised that smart people fell for that, actually.
I would argue that apple's design patent is invalid.
Here is why, and it has nothing to do with opinion of apple:
Further proof that slashdot users are completely incapable of understanding patents. Which is odd, considering that slashdot users aren't actually stupid.
Then clearly you do not understand the function of a design patent. That's fairly typical for slashdot users, though, who all think they are legal experts.
Seriously, you're being an ass.
"people to whom issues like that matter immensely"
Who died and put you in charge?
Illegal invasion of our border *actually* matters to those of us who are citizens and those of us who play by the rules.
Any questions?
Yes, I've got one: how come you keep posting as an anonymous coward? Are you so ashamed of your right-wing opinions that you're afraid to attach even a pseudonym to your words?
You obviously watch Fox News.
So you're denying that Arizona has a higher percentage of old white men angrily brandishing guns than the rest of the country?
But.. the majority of the US is not in Arizona. That's why it's called Arizona. It's a different place from where you live. If you don't live there, why do you care?
Because I think that legislated discrimination anywhere in the United States is morally, ethically, and constitutionally wrong. As an American, I hold my fellow Americans to the ideal that all men are created equally.
Frankly, the fact that I have to explain to you why I care is appalling, and demonstrates exactly how out of step Arizona is.
So clever!
Mostly, I just wanted to hit the same nerve a second time. Looks like I succeeded.
Speaking only for myself, I have a problem with Arizona enacting (and enforcing) laws that are plainly discriminatory and largely driven by old white men angrily brandishing guns. Arizona is, from my perspective, out of step with the vast majority of These United States.
But that's just me.