MuSecurity looks like MicroSecurity (picture the little-mu greek character in front). Or, in ISO units, "very little security". Strange choice for a name.
All I took issue with was your hope that Shakespeare will come later. Let's be realistic here -- it won't (and it sounds like you partially agree?) All that about pop culture being evil, downfall of civilization, blame the user... I didn't say any of that.
Interesting discussion style you have... I feel like you could get into a heck of an argument all by yourself.:)
surely the point is that kids are reading. The Shakespeare can come later.
No, the point is that the kids are reading crap. Will the Shakespeare come later? Will American Idol and American Chopper watchers suddenly all go to the library and start reading Keats? You're dreaming.
They do. They disassemble and reassemble their cubes and oil them to where there's almost no sliding friction at all. They don't twist a face, they flick a side with a fingertip and let momentum do the rest while they move their hands for the next move. It's amazing to watch.
[watches] where the maker claims 100M water resistant, but this is a ploy, since the 100M does not mean 100m...
Since "M" is not an SI unit, I don't see how "knowing your SI units" will help in any way. And, after doing some googling, I think you're wrong. In every watch ad I can find "100M" means "100 meters" even though "M" is capitalized. Care to provide a link supporting your statement?
"simple equity tells me BellSouth shouldn't be liable for more than the city lost, if anything, in reliance on their promise."
But what about opportunity cost? Good luck putting a price on that.
Let's consider a typical promisory estoppel case (patron promises to pay a student's tuition, then refuses when it's due)... The student hasn't actually lost any money when the patron renegs on his promise. But she lost the opportunity to apply to a cheaper college that year, one that she would have gone to had the patron not promised anything. Thanks to the patron's promise, she will now spend a year idle before she can apply again. He basically cost her a year of her life. How do you put a price on that? That's why the patron is usually forced to fulfill his promise.
Same with New Orleans. They may have stopped searching for other buildings when BellSouth made their promise (depends on how binding BellSouth's promise was). They have lost the opportunity to move the police in a timely fashion. What is the direct cost to the government? Huge. And the indirect cost to the citizens? Even larger.
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You didn't even google it? Tons of reputable sources exist. Your tirade is moot.
It comes down to who you believe, the White House or a bunch of high-ranking Palestinians. Given the White House's track record on truth telling so far, that's not an easy question...
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Sure, there are complex dynamics in all markets. But the bottom line is *always* just buying and selling. If something doesn't move more money, then by definition (look it up), it doesn't affect the market. Your hand waving and ad hominems can't change that. Try facts next time.
It's your step 3 that makes you sleazy. Your program is BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION spyware. Why wouldn't an anti-spyware tool remove it? As soon as you hire a lawyer, he'll tell you that judges look down on bizarre (and, yes, sleazy) contractual shenanigans like this. Good luck! You're going to need it.
The "market" refers to everybody who is looking to buy networking hardware. And, on the whole nobody is buying IPv6 hardware. It doens't matter if you personally "are pushing IPv6 forward" or not. You have to convince all your friends, and your friends friends, etc to buy IPv6 hardware before you become a market force.
Since it appears you don't understand this distinction, I'd have to guess that it's actually you who doesn't understand what a market is.
Too bad the post you linked to was wrong. Suggesting that a person might be wrong ("grain of salt" is just a nice way of saying this) because he or she has shown a bias in the past is most certainly ad hominem. Bias has no bearing whatsoever on a logical argument.
You can't deny the fact that MS has had about 10 years long[er] to get MSO right than the OOo people have had to get OO right.
Are you joking? StarDivision was founded in 1986, and some code found in OOo goes back almost that long. StarOffice was created in 1994. Depending on how you count, I would say that StarOffice and OpenOffice are within a year or two of each other in age.
Two years until OOo is as good as MSO? You're dreaming! I'll take that bet.
Personally, I use Gnumeric for all my spreadsheet tasks, and I eagerly await the day when Abiword doesn't randomly crash when a document contains footnotes.
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But OpenOffice starts a lot faster, and runs faster, when you turn Java off. Hmmmm...
I can only speak for the M10000. Mine has been up since powered on, serving files and mail under moderate load. 458 days uptime and counting. The only stability issue I know of for this motherboard is it locks up under extended DMA (i.e. simultaneously record & playback for 1/2 hour in MythTV). Apparently there's finally a a fix for this. The tiny power draw is just fantastic; low power bills and it stays up for hours even on my crappy UPS.
I'm installing one with a DC-DC converter in my car this week. It looks high quality. We'll see...
It's really a shame when a standard requires very non-triviallicensing. Shouldn't standards be usable by anybody for anything? But somehow high-paid lawyers got mixed in and now it's a mess. I aplaud the Chinese for trying to avoid it altogether.
I expect the Chinese aren't too happy about some other mandates too.
Antennas generally achieve more gain by giving up coverage. Most stock 802.11 antennas are designed to radiate more or less spherically. Otherwise, you'd have to keep your laptop in a specific orientation to get a signal. Imagine the tech support... "Turn your laptop 20 degrees to the right. Anything now? Hmm. Try propping a book under the left side."
Cantennas get great range because they are highly directional. If I twist my Pringles can more than about ten degrees, the signal drops off to nil. And since 802.11 is a two-way protocol, there needs to be an eqivalent antenna on the far end. Your Yagi won't do you no good if the Omni at the far end can't even reach halfway back to you.
If all you want to do is listen, or send a signal from your house to your barn, cantennas are a good choice. But for a coffee shop?? Probably not. Just buy a laptop with a large antenna. Newer Thinkpads and Powerbooks generally have large built-in antennas.
Despite all this... Does anybody know of a reasonably priced USB wifi device that will accept a pigtail and a homemade antenna? I'd like to attach a large omni to my PCI-less and PCMCIA-less in-car computer.
Java IS compiled to native instructions, and has been for about 7 years!
You understand what the original poster is saying of course. Java is compiled to bytecode. The bytecode is only compiled to native instructions at runtime. This will always be a significant performance hit. gcj rules of course, but nobody uses it yet.
Perhaps you should actually take a look at the e-Bay infrastructure before you comment? Those specs are, of course, nonsense.
Note, in particular, "EBay uses Sun Enterprise Servers in tightly integrated clusters..." Ebay does run Java on big iron.
A strange statement, as about three quarters of 'real' programmers use Java.
That's an even stranger statement! Are you really claiming that, of all programmers in the world, 1 in 3 actively use Java?? That's simply wrong. You'll have to back that assertion up.
Right. So no-one is ever going to be allowed to add features to Java because you are insisting that 'write once run anywhere' means that you want to only have, say Java 1.1.8 installed?
Yes, absolutely. Write once, run ANYWHERE. That's what "anywhere" means.
I'll put it another way. How many times have you had to upgrade your PC physical machine because a new version of GCC came out? Since 1987, maybe twice. Yet today I'm forced to download two separate virtual machines (1.3.1, and 1.4.2) to install the full Oracle suite. Even you must admit that this indicates a pretty serious problem.
Wow, Decaff, you're really working overtime to tell us what is theoretically possible with Java applets. Tell you what... How about you give a URL to *one* non-trivial applet that embodies everything you're talking about. Something like Google Maps, Flickr, etc.
- Like most Ajax apps, it must load in less than 1 second. - It must not load with the awful gray square or gratuitous Sun/Java logos. - It must run in the full page and handle window resizes well. - It must use the browser's native widget set (show me good Tiger widgets if I'm running on OSX Tiger). - It must not care what JVM it's running on. Write once run anywhere, you know. Don't force me to endure a 25 MB download just to run your Java applet.
Not hard right? Well, point us to one.
Nobody's doing it because, even though it's possible, it's just not worth the time! I wrote a proof of concept Java applet 6 months ago that embodied all of these requirements. I realized halfway through that I should have just used Ajax. Writing a decent Java applet required way too much manual effort.
- Scott
p.s. I recommend turning Java off in your browser. A number of evil websites use Java applets to evade popup blockers. Most people will never even discover that it isn't enabled.
Because nobody stepped forward to maintain devfs! A number of people offered but nobody actually followed through. That should tell you something right there.
The version of devfs that you use right now is horrifyingly buggy, especially on SMP systems. Switching to udev will take less time in the long run than trying to the keep bloaty and rusted devfs code working. Switching to udev is generally very easy.
Belief in that type of argument is self-defeating.
Ultimately we have no confidence that the deliverances of reason will EVER correspond to reality, be it evolution, creationism, intelligent design, or whatever the theory du jour may be. The old brain-in-a-vat fallacy.
But so what? No matter who may have bestowed it upon us, shouldn't we use our rational ability the best we possibly can? This universe is full of deep and beautiful mysteries. Let's explore it wherever it may lead!
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MuSecurity looks like MicroSecurity (picture the little-mu greek character in front). Or, in ISO units, "very little security". Strange choice for a name.
All I took issue with was your hope that Shakespeare will come later. Let's be realistic here -- it won't (and it sounds like you partially agree?) All that about pop culture being evil, downfall of civilization, blame the user... I didn't say any of that.
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Interesting discussion style you have... I feel like you could get into a heck of an argument all by yourself.
surely the point is that kids are reading. The Shakespeare can come later.
No, the point is that the kids are reading crap. Will the Shakespeare come later? Will American Idol and American Chopper watchers suddenly all go to the library and start reading Keats? You're dreaming.
They do. They disassemble and reassemble their cubes and oil them to where there's almost no sliding friction at all. They don't twist a face, they flick a side with a fingertip and let momentum do the rest while they move their hands for the next move. It's amazing to watch.
[watches] where the maker claims 100M water resistant, but this is a ploy, since the 100M does not mean 100m...
Since "M" is not an SI unit, I don't see how "knowing your SI units" will help in any way. And, after doing some googling, I think you're wrong. In every watch ad I can find "100M" means "100 meters" even though "M" is capitalized. Care to provide a link supporting your statement?
You're thinking of flourinert.
All this wordjacking is making me sick.
"simple equity tells me BellSouth shouldn't be liable for more than the city lost, if anything, in reliance on their promise."
But what about opportunity cost? Good luck putting a price on that.
Let's consider a typical promisory estoppel case (patron promises to pay a student's tuition, then refuses when it's due)... The student hasn't actually lost any money when the patron renegs on his promise. But she lost the opportunity to apply to a cheaper college that year, one that she would have gone to had the patron not promised anything. Thanks to the patron's promise, she will now spend a year idle before she can apply again. He basically cost her a year of her life. How do you put a price on that? That's why the patron is usually forced to fulfill his promise.
Same with New Orleans. They may have stopped searching for other buildings when BellSouth made their promise (depends on how binding BellSouth's promise was). They have lost the opportunity to move the police in a timely fashion. What is the direct cost to the government? Huge. And the indirect cost to the citizens? Even larger.
You didn't even google it? Tons of reputable sources exist. Your tirade is moot.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c
It comes down to who you believe, the White House or a bunch of high-ranking Palestinians. Given the White House's track record on truth telling so far, that's not an easy question...
Exactly who is pointing a gun at you right now?
Sure, there are complex dynamics in all markets. But the bottom line is *always* just buying and selling. If something doesn't move more money, then by definition (look it up), it doesn't affect the market. Your hand waving and ad hominems can't change that. Try facts next time.
I'd guess that you're a jizz hole, but that's me.
That's very self-aware!
It's your step 3 that makes you sleazy. Your program is BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION spyware. Why wouldn't an anti-spyware tool remove it? As soon as you hire a lawyer, he'll tell you that judges look down on bizarre (and, yes, sleazy) contractual shenanigans like this. Good luck! You're going to need it.
The "market" refers to everybody who is looking to buy networking hardware. And, on the whole nobody is buying IPv6 hardware. It doens't matter if you personally "are pushing IPv6 forward" or not. You have to convince all your friends, and your friends friends, etc to buy IPv6 hardware before you become a market force.
Since it appears you don't understand this distinction, I'd have to guess that it's actually you who doesn't understand what a market is.
Too bad the post you linked to was wrong. Suggesting that a person might be wrong ("grain of salt" is just a nice way of saying this) because he or she has shown a bias in the past is most certainly ad hominem. Bias has no bearing whatsoever on a logical argument.
You can't deny the fact that MS has had about 10 years long[er] to get MSO right than the OOo people have had to get OO right.
Are you joking? StarDivision was founded in 1986, and some code found in OOo goes back almost that long. StarOffice was created in 1994. Depending on how you count, I would say that StarOffice and OpenOffice are within a year or two of each other in age.
Two years until OOo is as good as MSO? You're dreaming! I'll take that bet.
Personally, I use Gnumeric for all my spreadsheet tasks, and I eagerly await the day when Abiword doesn't randomly crash when a document contains footnotes.
But OpenOffice starts a lot faster, and runs faster, when you turn Java off. Hmmmm...
I can only speak for the M10000. Mine has been up since powered on, serving files and mail under moderate load. 458 days uptime and counting. The only stability issue I know of for this motherboard is it locks up under extended DMA (i.e. simultaneously record & playback for 1/2 hour in MythTV). Apparently there's finally a a fix for this. The tiny power draw is just fantastic; low power bills and it stays up for hours even on my crappy UPS.
I'm installing one with a DC-DC converter in my car this week. It looks high quality. We'll see...
Wind helps big fires but it hurts small ones. And, unless you have some sort of accelerant, all fires start out small.
What's wrong with uniform standards?
License fees.
It's really a shame when a standard requires very non-trivial licensing. Shouldn't standards be usable by anybody for anything? But somehow high-paid lawyers got mixed in and now it's a mess. I aplaud the Chinese for trying to avoid it altogether.
I expect the Chinese aren't too happy about some other mandates too.
Antennas generally achieve more gain by giving up coverage. Most stock 802.11 antennas are designed to radiate more or less spherically. Otherwise, you'd have to keep your laptop in a specific orientation to get a signal. Imagine the tech support... "Turn your laptop 20 degrees to the right. Anything now? Hmm. Try propping a book under the left side."
Cantennas get great range because they are highly directional. If I twist my Pringles can more than about ten degrees, the signal drops off to nil. And since 802.11 is a two-way protocol, there needs to be an eqivalent antenna on the far end. Your Yagi won't do you no good if the Omni at the far end can't even reach halfway back to you.
If all you want to do is listen, or send a signal from your house to your barn, cantennas are a good choice. But for a coffee shop?? Probably not. Just buy a laptop with a large antenna. Newer Thinkpads and Powerbooks generally have large built-in antennas.
Despite all this... Does anybody know of a reasonably priced USB wifi device that will accept a pigtail and a homemade antenna? I'd like to attach a large omni to my PCI-less and PCMCIA-less in-car computer.
Java IS compiled to native instructions, and has been for about 7 years!
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You understand what the original poster is saying of course. Java is compiled to bytecode. The bytecode is only compiled to native instructions at runtime. This will always be a significant performance hit. gcj rules of course, but nobody uses it yet.
Perhaps you should actually take a look at the e-Bay infrastructure before you comment? Those specs are, of course, nonsense.
You're wrong.
http://www.internetweek.com/newslead01/lead011101
Note, in particular, "EBay uses Sun Enterprise Servers in tightly integrated clusters..." Ebay does run Java on big iron.
A strange statement, as about three quarters of 'real' programmers use Java.
That's an even stranger statement! Are you really claiming that, of all programmers in the world, 1 in 3 actively use Java?? That's simply wrong. You'll have to back that assertion up.
Right. So no-one is ever going to be allowed to add features to Java because you are insisting that 'write once run anywhere' means that you want to only have, say Java 1.1.8 installed?
Yes, absolutely. Write once, run ANYWHERE. That's what "anywhere" means.
I'll put it another way. How many times have you had to upgrade your PC physical machine because a new version of GCC came out? Since 1987, maybe twice. Yet today I'm forced to download two separate virtual machines (1.3.1, and 1.4.2) to install the full Oracle suite. Even you must admit that this indicates a pretty serious problem.
Wow, Decaff, you're really working overtime to tell us what is theoretically possible with Java applets. Tell you what... How about you give a URL to *one* non-trivial applet that embodies everything you're talking about. Something like Google Maps, Flickr, etc.
- Like most Ajax apps, it must load in less than 1 second.
- It must not load with the awful gray square or gratuitous Sun/Java logos.
- It must run in the full page and handle window resizes well.
- It must use the browser's native widget set (show me good Tiger widgets if I'm running on OSX Tiger).
- It must not care what JVM it's running on. Write once run anywhere, you know. Don't force me to endure a 25 MB download just to run your Java applet.
Not hard right? Well, point us to one.
Nobody's doing it because, even though it's possible, it's just not worth the time! I wrote a proof of concept Java applet 6 months ago that embodied all of these requirements. I realized halfway through that I should have just used Ajax. Writing a decent Java applet required way too much manual effort.
- Scott
p.s. I recommend turning Java off in your browser. A number of evil websites use Java applets to evade popup blockers. Most people will never even discover that it isn't enabled.
Because nobody stepped forward to maintain devfs! A number of people offered but nobody actually followed through. That should tell you something right there.
The version of devfs that you use right now is horrifyingly buggy, especially on SMP systems. Switching to udev will take less time in the long run than trying to the keep bloaty and rusted devfs code working. Switching to udev is generally very easy.
Belief in that type of argument is self-defeating.
Ultimately we have no confidence that the deliverances of reason will EVER correspond to reality, be it evolution, creationism, intelligent design, or whatever the theory du jour may be. The old brain-in-a-vat fallacy.
But so what? No matter who may have bestowed it upon us, shouldn't we use our rational ability the best we possibly can? This universe is full of deep and beautiful mysteries. Let's explore it wherever it may lead!