"Given the extraordinarily rapid growth of this technology and its developments, it is plainly unwise to lurch prematurely into emerging issues, given a record that does not at all lend itself to their determination," Judge Rosenblatt wrote for the Court.
Doesn't this make it seem silly to have so many legislators trying to make laws in these areas, when the judges don't even haved a context to stand on? CDA? Millenium Digital Copyright? etc.
The Court held that Prodigy's power to exert editorial control does not alter its passive posture or render it a "publisher" of electronic bulletin board messages.
Yay! Now you can outright delete the shitty posts from the total assholes who insist on posting goddam fucking bullshit cusswords, without being held liable by the bloodsucking law-banging lawyers because you didn't delete that one special post that pushed a suicidal grandma over the edge.
Nice to see a ruling like this, gives me hope for some sane IP/copyright laws in the next century.
AMP3.com has taken a somewhat different model. They tack advertisements to the front of your MP3s and you get five cents a download. I made $25.00 last month.
Advertising comes homes again. I think this is fair. And a million downloads could do pretty well for everybody. Advertising as a revenue source also relies on massive distrubution, something mp3 is good for. Charging directly for the music ain't gonna work.
I think most media will end up in two areas. Basic and Premium. Basic you pay by watching commercials, and the HBO model where you pay for quality content (Sopranos, 1st run Hollywood).
for some cool streams and to promote your own stuff try live365, I've found some sweet streams there (check j's ambient). Looks like they give out some free b-width, but I haven't used 'em for that.
First thing, NEVER, EVER give exclusive distribution rights to someone else.. you'll just get screwed..
Exactly, give it to everybody.
I know a lot of local bands, and a friend of mine is starting up an MP3 site (mostly using Icecast, but he wants songs to be dloadable as well..) for them (well, he hopes to expand to more bands later..) he asked me for help in designing it..
umm, saving a stream is a function of the client, at least on my machine. Promote a diff. client than WinAmp.
the first thing is that he doesn't want the artist to get screwed.. so #1, is he doesn't charge for space/listings, and (when he gets the credit card bit set up) he'll charge 30% of any CD's sold through the site.
That sounds better. Running your own site can be like your own radio station. Radio stations exist to promote music, and web sites are great at making it easy to buy, it's a match made in heaven.
Please don't think of listening to MP3s as bad. The laws that make them illegal are ridiculous. I equate MP3 streaming with the radio. If I save it to disk that's like using a tape. I don't see any of this as wrong. My case in point for open music is bands like Phish, who have thrived, especially on the 'Net, by allowing free flow of their music. Yes, it is more difficult to make a living this way, but if you started playing music to get rich, you don't deserve to. It can happen tho, for Phish's new year's show there will be 150k-200k people who paid $150 a piece to hear it live, which, IMHO, is how you should hear music anyway.
Stuff like Napster (which I used for the first time to get a quick and easy Tribe fix last night) will make any semblance of control of music a pale dream. Just open your music up, pass it out, and try to get people to your site and live shows to buy a CD, it's a perfect permanent backup in case your computer takes it on the chin from a HERF gun.
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You mean slashdot has strange hidden content, no...
The stupid Amazon patent. Umm... go to technocrat.net, d00d. I'm waiting for no-click shopping. Make them press "Enter".:)
if you read the patent, it also covers buying something "by making a sound".
I liked the show. It's one of the better small time radio shows out there. I say go for the full 30 minutes, or 32 mb to be specific!! C'mon think aboout it, my rio has 32mb of memory, get the pic?
...to continue spending on the space daem^H^H^H^Hprogramme could come from wireless (duh) communications companies.
Think about designing interplanetary communication systems. Think about implementing them.(isn't there already a protocol under review?) Think about AT&T sponsoring it, 'cause they will be on of the few that could afford the R&D outside the gov't. Unless Buzz Aldrin can find a way.
It would make a cool Nokia/PCS/Iridium(sp) commercial to have an astronaut calling for pizza as a joke from orbit, or Mars..
"Microsoft is a proud supporter of the U.S. Mission to Mars(tm)"!!
. I agree that this is not *too* interesting. After all..
"This just brings ASIO's powers in line with new technologies," she said. "It doesn't give them increased powers at all."
And I think this is a direct result of Echelon. Remember, Australia just outed the U.S and Britain for their own activities in citizen monitoring. I doubt they are still getting the and same info they were a few months (years?) ago? So basically they took it upon themselves. The same end result, I guess...
Like the sig says says, monitoring ALL the information would not be a happy task. Just don't act conspicuouly, you scientologists, libertarians, and illuminati, SLASHDOTTERS UNITE!!!
(err, whatever. I could tell you about the real-time demographic information that is available based on the sound of your name and your zip code, this is private corporations monitoring your info, and my guess is they have more money to spend on it than the government does, more quantity than quality tho, and the government has access to this info but not vice-versa.)
I agree. For the simple fact of controlling more resources. It's obvious we *can* (but not necessaril will) exhaust the Earth. Maybe it would be a good thing someday to get little plastic toys that say Made in Mars.
Amazon.com obviously grew into the commercial giant they are today solely because they engineered their name to grab the most 'net pr0n boys possible without offending the others.;)
hmm, I knew there was a reason Suck is still around.
Main Entry: obsolescence Pronunciation: -'le-s&n(t)s Function: noun Date: circa 1841 : the process of becoming obsolete or the condition of being nearly obsolete {the gradual obsolescence of machinery} {reduced to obsolescence} -- ...willful consumers can show the "condition of being nearly obsolete" of such an attitude.
so maybe it's my grammar or your nitpicking that need work, but the vocab is fine. Thanks for your conern, AC:/
...the translation from analog to digital has a special feature. Bit for Bit PERFECT copies. If you've ever seen a second or third VHS copy you would see how this scares big companies even more. From the point we're at (my mantra: The Internet makes control of digital media impossible) it will either take tons and tons of legislation and massive crackdowns or a total change of perspective from media companies, to reach resolution.
Personally I'd like to see newcomers establish new workable business models based on massive VLC (very low cost) distribution. At least that's what I'm gonna do.. (An internet connection and a Linux box ~= radio station + tv station + newspaper)
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that's not paranoid speculation, it's common sense.
napster doesn't use their own servers. It turns your box into one. Then other nap clients can connect and have straight access to the MP3s you select.
Personally I think it works great. The search feature looks at all connected clients so finding music ain't too tough.
I think Napster is very well within the letter of the law, but whether or not they have the money to prove that I don't know.
Very little of these types of lawsuits are discussed in Radio industry rags. 95% of the advertising in these magazines comes from the big5.
You cannot cage something that is free. Well, you can, but it won't like it and will eventually rebel. Stealing is semantics.
"Given the extraordinarily rapid growth of this technology and its developments, it is plainly unwise to lurch prematurely into emerging issues, given a record that does not at all lend itself to their determination," Judge Rosenblatt wrote for the Court.
Doesn't this make it seem silly to have so many legislators trying to make laws in these areas, when the judges don't even haved a context to stand on? CDA? Millenium Digital Copyright? etc.
The Court held that Prodigy's power to exert editorial control does not alter its passive posture or render it a "publisher" of electronic bulletin board messages.
Yay! Now you can outright delete the shitty posts from the total assholes who insist on posting goddam fucking bullshit cusswords, without being held liable by the bloodsucking law-banging lawyers because you didn't delete that one special post that pushed a suicidal grandma over the edge.
Nice to see a ruling like this, gives me hope for some sane IP/copyright laws in the next century.
AMP3.com has taken a somewhat different model. They tack advertisements to the front of your MP3s and you get five cents a download. I made $25.00 last month.
Advertising comes homes again. I think this is fair. And a million downloads could do pretty well for everybody. Advertising as a revenue source also relies on massive distrubution, something mp3 is good for. Charging directly for the music ain't gonna work.
I think most media will end up in two areas. Basic and Premium. Basic you pay by watching commercials, and the HBO model where you pay for quality content (Sopranos, 1st run Hollywood).
for some cool streams and to promote your own stuff try live365, I've found some sweet streams there (check j's ambient). Looks like they give out some free b-width, but I haven't used 'em for that.
First thing, NEVER, EVER give exclusive distribution rights to someone else.. you'll just get screwed..
Exactly, give it to everybody.
I know a lot of local bands, and a friend of mine is starting up an MP3 site (mostly using Icecast, but he wants songs to be dloadable as well..) for them (well, he hopes to expand to more bands later..) he asked me for help in designing it..
umm, saving a stream is a function of the client, at least on my machine. Promote a diff. client than WinAmp.
the first thing is that he doesn't want the artist to get screwed.. so #1, is he doesn't charge for space/listings, and (when he gets the credit card bit set up) he'll charge 30% of any CD's sold through the site.
That sounds better. Running your own site can be like your own radio station. Radio stations exist to promote music, and web sites are great at making it easy to buy, it's a match made in heaven.
Please don't think of listening to MP3s as bad. The laws that make them illegal are ridiculous. I equate MP3 streaming with the radio. If I save it to disk that's like using a tape. I don't see any of this as wrong. My case in point for open music is bands like Phish, who have thrived, especially on the 'Net, by allowing free flow of their music. Yes, it is more difficult to make a living this way, but if you started playing music to get rich, you don't deserve to. It can happen tho, for Phish's new year's show there will be 150k-200k people who paid $150 a piece to hear it live, which, IMHO, is how you should hear music anyway.
Stuff like Napster (which I used for the first time to get a quick and easy Tribe fix last night) will make any semblance of control of music a pale dream. Just open your music up, pass it out, and try to get people to your site and live shows to buy a CD, it's a perfect permanent backup in case your computer takes it on the chin from a HERF gun.
You mean slashdot has strange hidden content, no...
Interrogations Illicit Redundant Comments.
all they have to do is post in these discussions. The fans would come in droverings, err flocks of mad geese!
The stupid Amazon patent. Umm... go to technocrat.net, d00d. I'm waiting for no-click shopping. Make them press "Enter". :)
if you read the patent, it also covers buying something "by making a sound".
I liked the show. It's one of the better small time radio shows out there. I say go for the full 30 minutes, or 32 mb to be specific!! C'mon think aboout it, my rio has 32mb of memory, get the pic?
Hey Rob and Hemos!!
You guys need to get your PR people to get you a shot on the Daily Show as two young geek entreprenurs, or whatever. You can doo it!
Good show.
...to continue spending on the space daem^H^H^H^Hprogramme could come from wireless (duh) communications companies.
Think about designing interplanetary communication systems. Think about implementing them.(isn't there already a protocol under review?) Think about AT&T sponsoring it, 'cause they will be on of the few that could afford the R&D outside the gov't. Unless Buzz Aldrin can find a way.
It would make a cool Nokia/PCS/Iridium(sp) commercial to have an astronaut calling for pizza as a joke from orbit, or Mars..
"Microsoft is a proud supporter of the U.S. Mission to Mars(tm)"!!
.
I agree that this is not *too* interesting. After all..
"This just brings ASIO's powers in line with new technologies," she said. "It doesn't give them increased powers at all."
And I think this is a direct result of Echelon. Remember, Australia just outed the U.S and Britain for their own activities in citizen monitoring. I doubt they are still getting the and same info they were a few months (years?) ago? So basically they took it upon themselves. The same end result, I guess...
Like the sig says says, monitoring ALL the information would not be a happy task. Just don't act conspicuouly, you scientologists, libertarians, and illuminati, SLASHDOTTERS UNITE!!!
(err, whatever. I could tell you about the real-time demographic information that is available based on the sound of your name and your zip code, this is private corporations monitoring your info, and my guess is they have more money to spend on it than the government does, more quantity than quality tho, and the government has access to this info but not vice-versa.)
I agree. For the simple fact of controlling more resources. It's obvious we *can* (but not necessaril will) exhaust the Earth. Maybe it would be a good thing someday to get little plastic toys that say Made in Mars.
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Amazon.com obviously grew into the commercial giant they are today solely because they engineered their name to grab the most 'net pr0n boys possible without offending the others. ;)
hmm, I knew there was a reason Suck is still around.
... this post started at a two and has since gone full circle..
Moderation Totals:Offtopic=1, Insightful=1, Overrated=1, Underrated=1, Total=4.
lol, someone needs to moderate it as funny and flamebait and then the bases will all be loaded but the score will stay the same.
The above post is why they are bundled together. A good idea, IMHO.
...someone make a "gaming" distro for Linux. Please!!!!
(1st p0s7)
please, keep things in perspective..
More Microsoft bloat with no useful gain.
It's called "innovation" people, c'mon get with the program....
Main Entry: obsolescence
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Pronunciation: -'le-s&n(t)s
Function: noun
Date: circa 1841
: the process of becoming obsolete or the condition of being nearly obsolete {the gradual obsolescence of machinery} {reduced to obsolescence}
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...willful consumers can show the "condition of being nearly obsolete" of such an attitude.
so maybe it's my grammar or your nitpicking that need work, but the vocab is fine. Thanks for your conern, AC
...the translation from analog to digital has a special feature. Bit for Bit PERFECT copies. If you've ever seen a second or third VHS copy you would see how this scares big companies even more. From the point we're at (my mantra: The Internet makes control of digital media impossible) it will either take tons and tons of legislation and massive crackdowns or a total change of perspective from media companies, to reach resolution.
Personally I'd like to see newcomers establish new workable business models based on massive VLC (very low cost) distribution. At least that's what I'm gonna do.. (An internet connection and a Linux box ~= radio station + tv station + newspaper)
Technology will enable the industry to eliminate what the courts would not.
and hopefully clueful and willful consumers can show the obsolesence of such an attitude.