What isn't stated in the article is that there aren't that many human interface experts working in open source. Most interfaces are done either by programmers themselves, or graphic designers who have no idea how most users navigate through systems. What good open source projects need is human interface experts who are willing to lend their knowledge to make a easier navagatable program.
'Hi, I'm Joe Random Interface Expert and I would like to point out how your project is horribly designed from a UI perspective. You need to make changes A to Z.'
Response: 'Code it yourself.'
Result:...
So it takes a bit of organization beyond the self-organization to get something done outside the medium (code). Without a specially focused effort on this area, it is not a problem that will really resolve itself.
Legally, if a copyright is not enforced within a reasonable amount of time, the copyright holder loses the right to enforce it. For that reason, ASCAP, which has 4,000 licensees in California, routinely goes after small, unlicensed clubs for copyright infringements, said Robert Andris, a copyright attorney in Redwood City. "Generally, the bar or restaurant signs up," Andris said.
I've never heard this before. I've heard this said about trademark, but never copyright (or patents).
it's not much of a theory, and I disagree with your 'more idiots'. Canada barely has the population of California, and they can't even go outside for 6 months of the year (j/k you crazy cool canucks).
Watch Bowling for Columbine (and read the critiques) for a longer exploration of the question.
It's a big question. Deserving of books for a decent answer, not a/. post.
I read google news on my cigarette breaks. check 7 email accounts contstantly, IM, yadda, yadda, yadda, pr0n...
Of course, the device is a big part of this. The understand the love, you need a Treo and PDANet, for starters. I don't know what combinations other people use, but this one is the bee's knees.
I dunno, maybe you are trying to use it instead of broadband, but for a near 95% traveler by myself, it is incredibly useful to get real internet service in pretty much any city in the US. (I know their coverage sucks in some places, but I have been extremely satisfied with the service.
wait till copyright never ends, and we won't even need artists any more.
And that is to say, the bullshit you have to go through to not infringe on a work becomes such that...it's not even worth it.
But I'm glad Walt Disney got another 20 years of FREE PROTECTION for Mickey Mouse. Otherwise, he might have gone back in time, after coming back alive, and not created the thing.
my favorite was when he pulled aside an 'electrician' and basically make the guy admit he had no idea what he was doing and asked him to walk off the set.
And, uh, he could kick Ellison's ass... -slightly on-topic, but not really.
and if the RIAA has it's way, they would have the right to bust in and check to make sure you were using it the right way.
Yes, kinda far-fetched I know (that particular bit of legislation hasn't made it to the floor yet), but this is a story about an attempted misapplication of copyright law the **AA fought for tooth and nail.
Perhaps, but that doesn't prove that the layman will understand it after the scientist explains it.
Those are incompatible definitions. If the layman can't understand it, the scientist didn't explain it well enough. If the scientist can't explain it well enough in layman's terms, there is a good chance the scientist doesn't understand it either.
Note, while I agree with the general idea, I'm not saying the above is aboslutely true. Laymen can be pretty dense sometimes.
If there is something that is pure and good, is does not matter the state of those that are exposed to it. They will be improved.
The goal is not to convince them semantically that RMS is right, the goal is to improve.
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O.k. back from the abstract... Your 'bad people' are who exactly?
It is not a 'real good thing' to turn away the vast majority of people because they will not adopt a hair-splitting assesment.
'Free Software' is the single dumbest marketing term ever concieved, considering the perceived versus intended understanding of the term in a market economy.
"I am concerned about long-term entrenched confusions such as referring to a version of our GNU OS as 'Linux' and thinking that our work on free software was motivated by the ideas associated with 'open source.' These confusions lead users away from the basic issue: their freedom. By comparison, the events involving SCO are transitory and almost trivial," Stallman says.
Sorry, but thinking confusion about a few letters used to describe something is semantic bullshit and has little to do with freedom. Freedom to know what is running on your machine doesn't have all that much to do with trademarks.
The confusion he introduces with this constant idealistic barage has probably kept more people away than it has helped. If only because he never talks about the good stuff before getting mired in pedantic labels.
I didn't realize how bad it was until seeing him speak in person. But, yea, you can tell Lyons got an earful.
Did you know that 90% of the people you see on CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC news broadcasts...all of those toadies vote Democrat.
Funny how you left Fox out, since that would bring it closer to 50%. BTW, where do these numbers come from? I'd guess a conservative book about the media, but I could be wrong.
BTW, having a 'liberal' media, is a whole lot better than 'totalitarian' media. But why am I trying, chances are that 'liberal' is such a connotated and evil word for you by now that actual thought concerning its use is problematic.
Also, those are public companies you've listed. Mind telling me the political affiliation of the majority of their stockholders?
ah, I see, you want fully sentient robots that can't open doors because folks spent all their time on the mind, and none on the hand.
There's plenty of problems to solve in this area, I don't see much use for throwing stones. Unless, of course, it's to inflate your own ego enough that you have to confidence to show us your robot.
"We haven't talked to a single user who has said they're using [open source] because it's better." Tipp argued that it is more a case of sheer frustration with licensing and Microsoft's poor relationship with its customers over the last few years -- or simply the perceived cost benefits of open source -- driving users to migrate.
Umm, let's see 'frustration with licensing' == Open Source Better.
Microsoft's attitue toward customers == Open Source Better.
Perceived benefits of not having to deal with crap like the above == Open Source Way Better.
Also, the ability to set up a server, a message board, a news ticker, and countless other stuff, through an open source browser, on an open source server, all for the cost of the service alone (and no b.s. licensing crap) is a HUGE FRICKIN' ADVANTAGE.
"Do we lie awake at night and worry? You know Microsoft, it's the paranoid company. If someone buys just one copy of something else, we worry," Tipp said.
Well thank god we just share copies and only sell service. With that knowledge, you should be able to sleep rather peacefully, one would think.
There are people around the world who fight for their lives on a daily basis and we live in such as fantasy land that we see conflicting business models as a life and death struggle
Umm, the last world war was fought over 'conflicting business models'. You remember the Cold War, right?
Most wars are fought over possession of resources. Here there is a war over the defintion of possession itself for a certain sub-class of resources that mostly occupy space in the mind.
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In a day and age when we can watch movies on our cell phones, we damn well better have the right to do so.
Or things will probably get ugly.
What isn't stated in the article is that there aren't that many human interface experts working in open source. Most interfaces are done either by programmers themselves, or graphic designers who have no idea how most users navigate through systems. What good open source projects need is human interface experts who are willing to lend their knowledge to make a easier navagatable program.
...
'Hi, I'm Joe Random Interface Expert and I would like to point out how your project is horribly designed from a UI perspective. You need to make changes A to Z.'
Response: 'Code it yourself.'
Result:
So it takes a bit of organization beyond the self-organization to get something done outside the medium (code). Without a specially focused effort on this area, it is not a problem that will really resolve itself.
Legally, if a copyright is not enforced within a reasonable amount of time, the copyright holder loses the right to enforce it. For that reason, ASCAP, which has 4,000 licensees in California, routinely goes after small, unlicensed clubs for copyright infringements, said Robert Andris, a copyright attorney in Redwood City. "Generally, the bar or restaurant signs up," Andris said.
I've never heard this before. I've heard this said about trademark, but never copyright (or patents).
Clarification? Bad reporting? Lying lawyers?
If we can avoid it, we should avoid coming into equilibrium with the third world.
Yes, we must keep the people oppressed if we want to maintain our relative greatness.
Welcome to the New American Century (it's kinda like the old one).
Note: I'm being cynical and sarcastic at the same time, please parse appropriately before responding.
it's not much of a theory, and I disagree with your 'more idiots'. Canada barely has the population of California, and they can't even go outside for 6 months of the year (j/k you crazy cool canucks).
/. post.
Watch Bowling for Columbine (and read the critiques) for a longer exploration of the question.
It's a big question. Deserving of books for a decent answer, not a
nah, stick with the idiot line.
There's lots of idiots. Mix in lots of guns.
There, you go, instant violent criminals (because now even petty thiefs have access to firearms).
Necessitating more guns to stop, obviously.
Rinse, repeat, wonder why so many Americans blast each other away every year.
Blame Canada.
My love affair keeps expanding with PCS.
I read google news on my cigarette breaks. check 7 email accounts contstantly, IM, yadda, yadda, yadda, pr0n...
Of course, the device is a big part of this. The understand the love, you need a Treo and PDANet, for starters. I don't know what combinations other people use, but this one is the bee's knees.
I dunno, maybe you are trying to use it instead of broadband, but for a near 95% traveler by myself, it is incredibly useful to get real internet service in pretty much any city in the US. (I know their coverage sucks in some places, but I have been extremely satisfied with the service.
...deep linking.
Go here, follow the right path, and you would know it was true before you read the story.
yes, which is why they suck too, and why this country is getting so royally screwed by this government in regards to this industry.
What should be the golden age of information is looking more and more like a dark ages.
wait till copyright never ends, and we won't even need artists any more.
And that is to say, the bullshit you have to go through to not infringe on a work becomes such that...it's not even worth it.
But I'm glad Walt Disney got another 20 years of FREE PROTECTION for Mickey Mouse. Otherwise, he might have gone back in time, after coming back alive, and not created the thing.
How does this not seem like a typical power-grab by the music industry??
Because it doesn't involve legislation?
Yea, nothing gives me a big smile like seeing a child cured of a previously untreatable illness.
I love the idea of 'crippling a virus' to keep people safe.
Because it's not like evolution ever figured out a way to fix little genetic errors that hamper the survival of an organism.
my favorite was when he pulled aside an 'electrician' and basically make the guy admit he had no idea what he was doing and asked him to walk off the set.
And, uh, he could kick Ellison's ass... -slightly on-topic, but not really.
and if the RIAA has it's way, they would have the right to bust in and check to make sure you were using it the right way.
Yes, kinda far-fetched I know (that particular bit of legislation hasn't made it to the floor yet), but this is a story about an attempted misapplication of copyright law the **AA fought for tooth and nail.
Perhaps, but that doesn't prove that the layman will understand it after the scientist explains it.
Those are incompatible definitions. If the layman can't understand it, the scientist didn't explain it well enough. If the scientist can't explain it well enough in layman's terms, there is a good chance the scientist doesn't understand it either.
Note, while I agree with the general idea, I'm not saying the above is aboslutely true. Laymen can be pretty dense sometimes.
you are wrong.
If there is something that is pure and good, is does not matter the state of those that are exposed to it. They will be improved.
The goal is not to convince them semantically that RMS is right, the goal is to improve.
--
O.k. back from the abstract... Your 'bad people' are who exactly?
It is not a 'real good thing' to turn away the vast majority of people because they will not adopt a hair-splitting assesment.
'Free Software' is the single dumbest marketing term ever concieved, considering the perceived versus intended understanding of the term in a market economy.
I guess you stopped reading a little early.
"I am concerned about long-term entrenched confusions such as referring to a version of our GNU OS as 'Linux' and thinking that our work on free software was motivated by the ideas associated with 'open source.' These confusions lead users away from the basic issue: their freedom. By comparison, the events involving SCO are transitory and almost trivial," Stallman says.
Sorry, but thinking confusion about a few letters used to describe something is semantic bullshit and has little to do with freedom. Freedom to know what is running on your machine doesn't have all that much to do with trademarks.
The confusion he introduces with this constant idealistic barage has probably kept more people away than it has helped. If only because he never talks about the good stuff before getting mired in pedantic labels.
I didn't realize how bad it was until seeing him speak in person. But, yea, you can tell Lyons got an earful.
Did you know that 90% of the people you see on CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC news broadcasts...all of those toadies vote Democrat.
Funny how you left Fox out, since that would bring it closer to 50%. BTW, where do these numbers come from? I'd guess a conservative book about the media, but I could be wrong.
BTW, having a 'liberal' media, is a whole lot better than 'totalitarian' media. But why am I trying, chances are that 'liberal' is such a connotated and evil word for you by now that actual thought concerning its use is problematic.
Also, those are public companies you've listed. Mind telling me the political affiliation of the majority of their stockholders?
I have one of these and the pictures SUCK.
One of the pages has instructions on how to adjust the lens. It has a set focal point, but can be adjusted to focus at various distances.
ah, I see, you want fully sentient robots that can't open doors because folks spent all their time on the mind, and none on the hand.
There's plenty of problems to solve in this area, I don't see much use for throwing stones. Unless, of course, it's to inflate your own ego enough that you have to confidence to show us your robot.
"We haven't talked to a single user who has said they're using [open source] because it's better." Tipp argued that it is more a case of sheer frustration with licensing and Microsoft's poor relationship with its customers over the last few years -- or simply the perceived cost benefits of open source -- driving users to migrate.
Umm, let's see 'frustration with licensing' == Open Source Better.
Microsoft's attitue toward customers == Open Source Better.
Perceived benefits of not having to deal with crap like the above == Open Source Way Better.
Also, the ability to set up a server, a message board, a news ticker, and countless other stuff, through an open source browser, on an open source server, all for the cost of the service alone (and no b.s. licensing crap) is a HUGE FRICKIN' ADVANTAGE.
"Do we lie awake at night and worry? You know Microsoft, it's the paranoid company. If someone buys just one copy of something else, we worry," Tipp said.
Well thank god we just share copies and only sell service. With that knowledge, you should be able to sleep rather peacefully, one would think.
Where is this 'Europe' you speak of?
I thought it was part of Las Vegas?
There are people around the world who fight for their lives on a daily basis and we live in such as fantasy land that we see conflicting business models as a life and death struggle
Umm, the last world war was fought over 'conflicting business models'. You remember the Cold War, right?
Most wars are fought over possession of resources. Here there is a war over the defintion of possession itself for a certain sub-class of resources that mostly occupy space in the mind.
and if you were 14 and unable to sign away the rights of everyone in your family?
[curious, IANAL, but I know these security problems won't ever get fixed if companies aren't held liable for them.]