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Segway-Based Robot Opens Doors

Roland Piquepaille writes "In this short article, Technology Review tells us that Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) researchers have built a new robot, named Cardea, which is able to push open doors and has the bottom half of a Segway scooter. Cardea will be five feet tall with a torso, three arms, a variety of sensors, and a human-like head with expressive features and vision, and mounted on a Segway base. More details and references are contained in this review which also includes several pictures. For even more details, go to the Cardea Project homepage."

158 comments

  1. This must somehow violate the DMCA by pete_contact11 · · Score: 0

    It won't be long until Segway is sending it's C&D letters.

  2. GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't this violate the GPL?

  3. Johnny 5 is Alive! by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Funny

    Holy %$#@.... it's the robot from "Short Circuit" !!

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    1. Re:Johnny 5 is Alive! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      Make sure to use a surge suppressor when charging the unit.

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    2. Re:Johnny 5 is Alive! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No Way! Its Rosie from The Jetsons.

  4. It had to be said.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I for one welcome our door-opening overlords!

    (I'm such a FP slut)

    1. Re:It had to be said.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      (I'm such a FP slut)

      (/me quickly checks post count...)

      No you're not. You are a 6th Post slut :P

  5. star trek by narkotix · · Score: 0

    i thought spock said in the simpsons episode that it was 2 guys opening the doors....hmm makes ya think

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  6. Battery life? by ArbiterOne · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The primary problem with two-wheeled robots so far has been balance. This project solves that, not only with the Segway platform, but with a kickstand that extends when batteries cut out.

    How long do the batteries last, anyway? It's not much good if they run out in, say, five minutes.

    A recent article in SciAm described small robots that can be thrown through windows and will run around and map the area. I wonder if this robot could do the same? But what if it runs into stairs?

    Just some thoughts.

    1. Re:Battery life? by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

      But what if it runs into stairs?

      Ah, the most fearsome killing machine in the universe, foiled by a staircase.

      Well, at least this robot can thank its lucky stars it isn't made by gluing tennis ball halves all over the outside of an upsidedown dustbin.

      KFG

    2. Re:Battery life? by Blangopolis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This robot's design is actually pretty cool. If you go to this site you will see a bunch of really cool pictures, and even a video about the Cardea. It has three arms, which may seem awkward at first, but actually it is a pretty ingenius design. The "extra" arm isn't really its own arm, it is more of an extension of the left arm that allows the Cardea to open doors and hold objects better.

    3. Re:Battery life? by nilenico · · Score: 1

      Daleks?

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    4. Re:Battery life? by Talthane · · Score: 1

      No, tribbles.

      For those not aware, Daleks can actually climb stairs. First shown on screen in 1987.

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    5. Re:Battery life? by HappyFrog · · Score: 1

      How? I can't imagine how they would do it. It would seem to me that K9 was similarly impaired.

    6. Re:Battery life? by skinfitz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The issue was addressed in the Dr Who episode "Remembrance of the Daleks" where a Dalek was shown levitating up stairs.

    7. Re:Battery life? by HappyFrog · · Score: 1

      Hey, thanks skinfitz and thanks for that link it greatly amused me :-)

    8. Re:Battery life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have stairs in your house?

  7. Balance? by NatePWIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just a dumb question, but if I remember correctly the regular segway works by having the operator balance it somewhat like a bicycle, hence the small learning curve to operate the Segway.

    So my question is, does this robot have some sort of balancing algorithm programmed into it so it doesn't fall flat on its face?

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    1. Re:Balance? by ArbiterOne · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It works with a gyroscope in the base that tilts it back and forth so the center of gravity remains in the center.

      That's why you can lean forward on a Segway and still stay up.

    2. Re:Balance? by jnguy · · Score: 0, Funny

      Yup, Apparently it should be pretty damn hard to fall off, but our good ole president somehow managed to do it. They decided to recall a bunch of them after their batteries went bad. "The Consumer Product Safety Commission announced the recall Friday, saying that three people had been injured. One suffered a head wound and needed stitches. " http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/tech/mai n575347.shtml

    3. Re:Balance? by Zaffle · · Score: 1
      Just a dumb question, but if I remember correctly the regular segway works by having the operator balance it somewhat like a bicycle, hence the small learning curve to operate the Segway.

      Nope, the segway works by using a gyroscope to detect balance, then driving the wheels forwards or backwards to keep balance. (Think; those guys in the circus who have those long poles with plates/etc on their heads and run backwards and forwards to keep the poles balanced).

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    4. Re:Balance? by rf0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would hope it would come pre-programmed and already know how to balance. Last thing you want is your shiny nice new robot falling over and smashing your priceless ming vase

      Rus

    5. Re:Balance? by bluFox · · Score: 1

      It would be cool to see this thing use a unicycle like embrio
      Since that already have balancing techniques etc built into it, it might be even easier to use it.

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    6. Re:Balance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate the homophobic thing of calling everything "gay", but the parent is just plain funny. Sadly it will probably be my best laugh of the day.

  8. It looks pretty cool but.. by nertz_oi · · Score: 0

    how long until they can get it to say "Your mother wears army boots!"?

    1. Re:It looks pretty cool but.. by nertz_oi · · Score: 0

      errr the quote i was referring to is actually:

      Your mother was a snowblower.

      My bad.

      What movie/book was "Your mother wears army boots" from? I have no idea where i got that one.

    2. Re:It looks pretty cool but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Artworx strip poker

    3. Re:It looks pretty cool but.. by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 1

      The Goonies, I believe (although, in thse referential times, the script could well have been quoting something else). And I think it was "Your mother wears combat boots." Sounds kind of gnarlier.

    4. Re:It looks pretty cool but.. by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      I believe it was a slur long before then, implying that the aforementioned mother obtained boots from a soldier who visited her brothel. Of course it loses meaning in the modern age, when plenty of mothers legitimately wear combat boots.

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  9. Robot that can open doors. by nilsjuergens · · Score: 4, Funny


    This is such a good thing, as somehow nobody has ever been able to invent a door that opens on its own. But now Johnny 5 comes to the rescue!

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    1. Re:Robot that can open doors. by kerb · · Score: 1

      kidding aside, even in third world countries already has doors that can open itself :)

    2. Re:Robot that can open doors. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, yes, but I think the point is that this robot can open non-self-opening doors for itself.

  10. Two wheels by Culturejammer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shouldn't robots get away from the 'two wheel' system? I mean, it's going to be limited to (fairly) flat plane areas. I would think the IBOT would make a much better base for a robot.

    1. Re:Two wheels by tronicum · · Score: 1

      indeed. the segway system might be a funcy way of transportation, but I think robots should be more flexible.

    2. Re:Two wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, a sphere would be superior. That way the robot could move in any direction without turning.

    3. Re:Two wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of two wheeled robots of yore, does anyone remember Topo?

      http://www.xs4all.nl/~vkessels/gallery/androbot.ht ml
      http://www.robotswanted.com/robotgallery/androbot/

      My father worked for Androbot, and I actually remember going to the facility and seeing a Bob.. boy was that cool especially since I was 6 at the time.

  11. What else can it do ? by Mr+Europe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Three arms and a "head". Two cameras. But what else can it do besides opening doors. The fact that it looks somehow human with it head eyes and hands is of course nice but finally more important is what is inside the head. Can it be commanded verbally ? Can it be taught simple tasks without programming ? I mean that opening a door is nothing today...

    1. Re:What else can it do ? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      " I mean that opening a door is nothing today..."

      It's an experiment, not a product.

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    2. Re:What else can it do ? by phaggood · · Score: 1

      What else? Are you kiddin' me? Think Fed-Ex trucks that stop at the end of a block, a door slides open, and eight laden-'bots dart out in five different directions heading for the lobby of a bunch of high-rises... schuh-weeet!

  12. what about me? by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

    i can open doors... whys there no post about ME?!

  13. Think tank... by Parallex · · Score: 3, Funny

    - Five feet tall
    - 3 arms
    - a variety of sensors
    - mounted on a segway base

    Oh and let's throw in a human-like head so that people can feel at home with it rolling around...

    Innovation I tells ya!

  14. Predictable by JamesD_UK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I personally welcome our segway based robot overlords.

    Seriously though this is an intresting hack/use of segway technology. It'd be interesting to learn how it copes with some of the limitations of the technology. What happens when the batteries run out? That could be an expensive crash. How does it cope with moving over larger obstacles that a segway rider might just be able to cope with. I guess I really don't know enough about how Segway+Human works to think about possible solutions. Anyhow, well done MIT!
    1. Re:Predictable by JamesD_UK · · Score: 1

      Aaahhh it uses a kickstand if it fails. That'll teach me to RTFLWWWP!

  15. Halloween by Space+cowboy · · Score: 1, Funny

    How scarey would *that* have been to be seen wandering down the highway on Halloween....

    Simon.

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    1. Re:Halloween by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "How scarey would *that* have been to be seen wandering down the highway on Halloween...."

      Do you mean "Gives me the creeps!" scary, or "It's gonna fall on me!" scary?

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  16. stupid robot-joke by Harald+Paulsen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Two Cardeas roll into a bar..

    ..which is really stupid since the second one should have seen it.

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    1. Re:stupid robot-joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's really funny is that you paid to have this joke here.

  17. Segway RMP by UWC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The base for that robot is an official development platform called, I think, the Segway RMP, not just "the bottom half of a Segway." My college has one, too. It acts a bit differently from a regular Segway and can reasonably easily be remote controlled, balancing itself with up to 250 pounds on it. At the moment, it seems they've stuck a robot torso on top of the RMP. Not to say that's not a reasonable accomplishment in itself. I'm an undergrad research assistant in a robotics lab, and real-world application can be extremely frustrating.

    1. Re:Segway RMP by gribbly · · Score: 1

      I think it's really cool to see the technical achievements (I won't say innovations - Segway is more an elegant piece of engineering than an innovation) of the Segway put to good use. The eponymous product is clearly useless, and is rightfully derided. But the underlying tech is neat, and it will be something of a happy ending if the technology is repurposed and serves - quite literally - as a platform for other developments.

      From the he existence of this development platform it seems that this outcome is being actively encouraged. Kudos.

      grib.

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    2. Re:Segway RMP by danila · · Score: 1

      I won't say innovations - Segway is more an elegant piece of engineering than an innovation.

      In fact, Segway is an innovation, a product innovation, to be exact. It is also an invention. Check the definitions.

      As for the usefulness, give it some time and then judge it. Kamen might have made a mistake estimating the adoption rate (or rather he and the investors made a bet), but that doesn't mean the product is bad. Many people bought it, many people use it, I haven't saw a lot of negative comments from the owners (in fact I can't remember any of them). I don't really understand why is it so popular to bash it? Are Americans really so preoccupied with their cars?

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    3. Re:Segway RMP by Mr.+Spleen · · Score: 1
      Yes, this is part of the overall Segway RMP project. These things are really cool. It's being done by IPTO, a department in DARPA.

      http://www.darpa.mil/ipto/programs/mars/rmp.htm

      Mr. Spleen

  18. Re:The big question is ... by rf0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No but this does

    Rus

  19. It should have been called Marvin by Toutatis · · Score: 2, Funny

    It doesn't have a brain the size of a planet, but it's job is suitable for Marvin.

    1. Re:It should have been called Marvin by DRACO- · · Score: 1

      Can It defend itself like marvin did against the tank? "Guess what weapons I have!"

      And when will we have a floating robot like Colin? Especially one that can take the weight of an average human and save him from falling from a 30+ story highrise building of a publishing company.

      DRACO-

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  20. Third arm? by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cardea will be five feet tall with a torso, three arms...

    Dare I ask where the placement of that third arm is?

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    1. Re:Third arm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you look at the pictures, the third arm is
      clearly attached in the armpit of one of the other arms.

      I'm more concerned about where they put that "kickstand".

  21. what a waste by ryanw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It only accounts for one type of door handle. The handle has to be at 90 degrees and be the type that pushs down. Any type of door knob would just fluster this expensive two wheeled disaster just waiting to happen. Though the last few seconds shows how easily this thing gets excited. Some guy talks demanding to it and it springs up some sort of levers in front and back of the thing... I don't really know what to make of that.

    1. Re:what a waste by kinnell · · Score: 1
      Any type of door knob would just fluster this expensive two wheeled disaster just waiting to happen

      That's why it's important that any general purpose robot has a built in minigun, rocket launcher or chainsaw, as a solution for any problems it encounters which cannot be solved by technological means.

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  22. Minsky was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Too many robotics researchers are messing about with toys rather than trying to solve the hard problems. This is yet more grist to his mill.

    "The worst fad has been these stupid little robots," said Minsky. "Graduate students are wasting 3 years of their lives soldering and repairing robots, instead of making them smart. It's really shocking."

    http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,5871 4- 2,00.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1

    1. Re:Minsky was right by Poodleboy · · Score: 1, Troll
      Good grief, another brilliant invention from the self-absorbed folks at the MIT AI Lab. Minsky was quite right with his
      comments. In fact, all the hard work of real engineering in this "door-opening robot" was done by the Segway people in designing the inertial feedback control systems that stabilize the thing. The Hackers seem to have used this as the basis for a glorified Lego MindStorms project. Even the referenced article in MIT's Tech Review concedes that the really clever bit is in the Segway's "dynamic balancing abilities."


      Maybe if MIT would spend less time developing the egos of its students and more time on real engineering topics like control systems then they might actually turn out some useful engineers instead of self-serving, thin-skinned, xenophobic geeks incapable of working with management or peers.


      Maybe we should give them a break since this is the AI Lab, and therefore a bunch of "computer scientists"--as distinct from engineers--so they probably have never solved any differential equations in their lives.


      Founders of AI fundamentals like Norbert Wiener and Herbert Simon, were they alive today, would be sad to see that their brilliant initial insights have been reduced to the commercialization of substandard "robot" vacuum cleaners--that is, if their contributions were even part of the MIT AI curriculum, which they clearly are not when the department consists of mathematically-challenged, system-engineering-free computer scientists. But then, neither Wiener nor Simon were graduates of the over-hyped Institute...

    2. Re:Minsky was right by Wah · · Score: 1

      ah, I see, you want fully sentient robots that can't open doors because folks spent all their time on the mind, and none on the hand.

      There's plenty of problems to solve in this area, I don't see much use for throwing stones. Unless, of course, it's to inflate your own ego enough that you have to confidence to show us your robot.

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    3. Re:Minsky was right by Pentagram · · Score: 1

      It seems to me like this is engineering, not science. It's an interesting idea, and a novel use of technology but it doesn't really advance the sphere of human knowledge. However, maybe they can use this new design of robot to produce new science (which I expect is their goal anyway).

    4. Re:Minsky was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously written by someone who has not done much robotics work. There are tough problems to solve and having a workable platform like this allows researchers to concentrate on those problems such as recognition, planning, etc. rather than just the mechanics.

  23. What about windows? by freedommatters · · Score: 0, Funny
    Can it open windows? Pretty soon it's going to realize that opening doors is a pretty futile existence (compared with his relations, who at least make cars) and it's going to want to jump out.

  24. So it is able to ride a Segway... by dwalsh · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...without falling off. Headline: "Robot smarter than U.S. President - Scientists predict they will surpass humans within 100 years".

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  25. Segway? by Kickasso · · Score: 1

    The question is why?

  26. Well by RightInTheNeck · · Score: 1

    Wake me up when it can give handjobs or viciously attack and destroy other robots or something. Its probably not a good idea to try to include both those options though. I'd just stick to one of them and perfect it.

  27. Oh, it's explained in the review. by Kickasso · · Score: 1
    But it's stupid anyway. Segway can only balance in one axis (forwards/backwards) and the arms can move sideways. If you need dynamic balancing then you need two-axis dynamic balancing, so again, why Segway? And that's one big if. Making the robot's centre of gravity very low (lead-acid batteries, anyone?) would probably make the robot stable enough without all that expensive electronics.

    And replying to one's own comments is stupid.

    1. Re:Oh, it's explained in the review. by toybuilder · · Score: 1

      > Making the robot's centre of gravity very low (lead-acid batteries, anyone?) would probably make the robot stable enough without all that expensive electronics.

      By extending that argument, wouldn't evolution optimize animals and people to have low center of gravity?

      I think there's a lot to be said for dynamic stability. I'm not saying the Segway is the *right* approach. But it's the first mass-produced dynamically-stabilized mobile platform.

      I personally think a more compact version of the iBot wheelchair would make a better robotic platform -- it is just much more expensive today -- since it can go into dynamic stabilization on two wheels, or gracefully degrade back to static stabilization on four wheels.

  28. Stairs?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show me a robot opening a door on the SECOND floor (with the lift / elavator broken)....

    THEN I will be impressed.

  29. Run upstairs! by pubjames · · Score: 2, Funny


    Distressed damsel: Help, help! These new door opening robots have gained self-awareness and are trying to take over the world!

    Hero: Quick, run upstairs!

    1. Re:Run upstairs! by pubjames · · Score: 0

      Distressed damsel: Help, help! These new door opening robots have gained self-awareness and are trying to take over the world!

      Hero: Quick, run upstairs!

      [Damsel and hero are at the top of the stairs, watching the robots]

      Damsel: What are they doing? They're whispering...

      Hero: Plotting some foul deed, no doubt.

      Damsel: Oh no! They're opening all the doors, letting in a nasty cold draft!

      Hero: Those evil fiends! We have to do something quick!

      Damsel: There's only one man who can save us now! Mild-mannered Linus Torvalds, figurehead of the Open Source movement!!

      Hero: Great idea! He can send a pack of angry penguins! I'll email him now!

      Hero: [tapping on laptop keyboard, mumbling to himself] Dear Linus, we are trapped upstairs by self-aware door opening robot fiends that are intent on taking over the world! Please help!

      [Several hours later. Hero and Damsel are slumped against the wall, looking very bored]

      Damsel: Any reply yet?

      Hero: [sighs] No, not yet.

  30. Pusher robot? by pikkumyy · · Score: 0

    Lowtax has already had an incident with this kind of robots.

  31. This truly is an age of wonders. by Channard · · Score: 1

    I never thought we'd see a race of galactic overlords that were less capable of handling stairs than the Daleks.

  32. Cool just when I got this email by mab · · Score: 1

    Building a Balancing Scooter...

    link

    1. Re:Cool just when I got this email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great link I will have to try and build one myself

  33. Hope they didn't pay for the Segway base... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when they could have just taken a page off of this guy and build one themselves...

    http://tlb.org/scooter.html

  34. Opens Doors? by POds · · Score: 1

    My cat could open the sliding door to the laundry! It also went to the loo in a drain besides the real loo! Also, i didnt teach my cat to do this, it learnt how to do it!

    Maybe this computer could have learnt something from my cat?

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  35. Can it open revolving doors... by corebreech · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...without ending up in an endless loop?

  36. it is a pitty ... by Findel · · Score: 1

    ... about those kick-out-leg-things. Other wise it would also be the first robot to do G.W.Bush impressions, by falling over.

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  37. The Jetsons by Mr+Europe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It somehow reminds me of the Rosie-robot from "The Jetsons" cartoons from the 60'ies and again in the 80'ies.
    If don't remember, check it here:
    http://www.cybercomm.nl/~ivo/photo_ROSIE.ht ml
    or
    http://www.jeffbots.com/rosie.html

  38. Segway vs Hot Wheel vs ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Bombardier Unicycle thingy would kick it's ass and take names...in both official languages.

  39. Legged vs. Wheeled by spazzm · · Score: 1

    Why invest money in researching wheeled robots? Is not legged robots better for all purposes except speed?

  40. Open Source by loconet · · Score: 1

    As you can see, Just like in software, in hardware you can also take existing concepts, ideas and expand on them or derive other things from them. This moves technology. Dear MS execs, It is not a cancer nor does it harm us. Learn to adapt and play with the team!

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  41. The Terrible Secret of Space! by bdowne01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this qualify as a pusher or shover robot?

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  42. does it have a cheerful and sunny disposition? by DocTee · · Score: 1, Funny

    does it derive pleasure from opening doors for you, and satisfaction from closing them with the knowledge of a job well done?

    thank you, the marketing division of the sirius cybernetics corporation!

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  43. Robot with legs by infestedsenses · · Score: 1

    Not sure if this is off topic, I think not.
    I've always been impressed with this Sony robot project. Kinda strange it's never been mentioned on /. Have a look.
    Now, it may not be the fastest robot you've seen, but it sure isn't the slowest (and they are constantly developing it, so I bet it will become faster over time), and the variety of movements and its capability of balancing is quite stunning. I wonder how hard it would be to implement a comparatively simple seeming feature such as opening doors.

  44. Push/ Pull by samsmithnz · · Score: 1

    I wonder if it can pull doors open, and how much trouble it would have navigating a real world... I for one always pull/push doors every combination except for the right one before I get anywhere....

  45. A Segway-powered robot? by gykh · · Score: 1

    I can just imagine it now...

    "Warning! Warning! Battery Low. Batte..."

    Creeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaak. Thump.

    Bzzzt.

  46. Johnny Five! by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

    IS ALIVE!

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  47. At least it's not ... by basho3 · · Score: 1, Funny

    a dog. Forget the terrors of nanotechnology run amuck. I'm scared of dogs acquiring the ability to open refrigerator doors. Cataclysmic chaos. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  48. Third arm? (Can't you feel it?) by geschild · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dare I ask where the placement of that third arm is?
    If you don't know, you're not standing close enough... :-D
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  49. Over-engineered, underwhelming by alib001 · · Score: 1

    Choose building a robot that opens doors. Choose not to tell anyone why. Choose a flailing arm that hits door handles. Choose mounting this arm on the top half of the robot for maximum lever-instability-badness. Choose a two-wheeled inherently unstable platform. Choose compensating for bad design with electronic gadgetry. Choose a kick stand kludge for when the robot inevitably keels over.

    Try designing a better door.

    Or if you really need a robo-butler at least give it tracks and a low center of gravity.

  50. Obligatory 2001 Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    "Open the [front] door Hal."

    "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that."

  51. Solutions by anaphora · · Score: 1

    Walmart already has the invisible variety of these.

  52. Meet George Jetson...... by AUsBandit · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or does this look like Rosie's great grandmother?

    1. Re:Meet George Jetson...... by orthogonal · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or does this look like Rosie's great grandmother?

      As long as it doesn't look like Rosie O'Donnell.

  53. could be useful... by Major_Small · · Score: 1
    I see some use for this... like a mailbot or something, but then again stuff like this has been done before. the ony good thing about this is that it's on a segway.

    I imagine a robot on a segway can move alot faster than a robot on treads or wheels, and is probably alot more maneuverable at higher speeds... i see a robot moving around cubicles or something to deliver a memo at the speed of a person running.

    but like i said before, there's already practical solutions for this and none of them have caught on very well... if the price is low enough, maybe it will catch on, but for now, I think it's the price of acquiring and maintaining them that keeps them down in popularity...

  54. What's next, human batteries? by mhoover · · Score: 1

    With the advent of A.I......
    Need I say more?

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  55. That's the genious! by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Segway balances itself, actually you shift your weight to control it.

    Now, the genious part. You robot only has to shift its weight in order to move about. You've eliminated a lot of relatively hard problems by piggybacking on the segway.

    It's really kinda like using a library instead of implementing everything from scratch.

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    1. Re:That's the genious! by toybuilder · · Score: 1

      Actually, the robot doesn't have to shift its weight. It just has to temporarily move backward a tiny bit to cause the unit to tip forward, and then scoot forward at the precise speed necessary to keep it in balance.

      It's sort of like how motorcycle riders twitch left before leaning into a right turn.

      The iBot wheelchair (which is what the Segway technology spun off from) uses this to good effect -- the rider doesn't have to move his body at all -- he can command the wheelchair left/right back/forward with a joystick.

      The gyroscope in the unit DOES NOT directly provide force to balance the unit. Instead, the gyro's help the system to monitor and close the control loop of keeping the unit in balance. Sort of like gyroscopic autopilot on an airplane.

      on the unit, just like the gyroscope

    2. Re:That's the genious! by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      Err, the robot doesn't have to do any of that. If it communicates directly with the lower Segue portion, it can merely issue a "forward" command to the Segue controller, and that's that. No need for it to duplicate what a human rider would need to do.

      Tom

    3. Re:That's the genious! by toybuilder · · Score: 1

      That's correct -- the "forward" command from the controller to the RMP would cause the Segway platform to first move back, causing the whole robot to tip forward -- at which point the platform will then move in the forward direction.

    4. Re:That's the genious! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you're not a genious, eh monkey brains? what you propose would be utterly stupid.

  56. The importance of being overly geeky by Scodiddly · · Score: 2, Funny

    You all are missing the point of this new Segway-based robot.

    If you don't already look suffiently dorky riding around on a Segway, now you can have a matching robot servant to open doors so you don't have to EVER dismount. ;) ;) ;)

  57. Wow! by nnnneedles · · Score: 1

    Did you watch the movie?

    It can push an already open door open, by putting a metal stick on the door and extending it.

    What if the door is closed?

    And what's the thing with MIT and these kinds of fakey "news"?

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  58. I can deliver memos faster by HomerJayS · · Score: 2, Insightful
    i see a robot moving around cubicles or something to deliver a memo at the speed of a person running.

    I can deliver a memo to everyone in the office on multiple floors and even in offices around the world in seconds (or minutes at worst).

    I don't need a friggin robot zooming around the office delivering 'memos' and waiting to run me down as I pop-out of my cubicle to replenish my caffeine supply.

    Now give me one that can fetch my coffee and then we're talking.

  59. Already done by feelyoda · · Score: 1

    I love the way MIT gets media attention but doesn't necessarily do things first or towards a final usable product.

    Segway soccer isn't new.

    You don't need arms to play soccer; all you need is a "kicker". CMU already has a segway robot to play soccer: http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~robosoccer/segway/

    The point is that people on segways can play robots on segways. I'm not sure how adding arms and a head would help...

    Also, you will notice this research group lacks vision :) :
    http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/cardea/technical /vi sion.shtml

    ha

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  60. The Motie in the Doorway... by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 1

    Cardea looks like a Motie as realized by Gyro Gearloose. Friendly.

  61. Spock's discovery by strapon · · Score: 0

    What did Spock find in the Toilet?

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  62. Segway - Opening Doors to new levels of fat by Daemonicus · · Score: 0

    Has humanity become so lazy as to stop wanting to walk to places? We have legs for a reason. Let's try to use them. But I want to get around faster... Try running. I don't think anyone said that, I was making fun of a generic, lazy segway user. Cars help us get around for moderate to long trips. I don't think there are many people who yell ROADTRIP and jump on segways to go to Mexico or Canada. I understand that the segway is only for short trips. We also have bicycles and feet. They both allow you to use energy to get somewhere. Eventually, humanity will become fat from using segway. Hell, we already have problems in America with people staying in shape. Let's try to fix that problem first before we commit to the segway. 16 inch calves? First hallway, 5th door on the right. God help us all.

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    1. Re:Segway - Opening Doors to new levels of fat by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1
      I believe one of the benefits of the Segway is that if you work in a city, in order to go out to lunch, you have to take a cab or drive your own car. True, you could run to and from lunch (in order to have enough time to satisfy the boss) but that may not be as easy as it could be in a suit. The Segway fills this purpose by being a mode of transportation that can travel at least as fast as a human running and also being much smaller than a car - so there's no wasted space that you're taking up.

      Has humanity become so lazy that they want to stop doing calculations themselves? These new fangled calculators are going to be the death of society! God help us all!

      You're being a typical poster and overreacting. A Segway can be a useful means of transportation. Just because you are too short sighted to see the benefits, does not mean it has none. You know, why own a couch? Humans have legs for a reason, so they can stand! Why do you want to sit down??? What's wrong with you??

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    2. Re:Segway - Opening Doors to new levels of fat by Daemonicus · · Score: 0

      Most people I know who work in the city tend to eat at places within walking distance of the building. They have about an hour to an hour and a half to eat so driving is out unless they want to eat fast food, which causes its own blend of problems. Since they are in the city, there are a wide variety of options so they don't eat the same thing everyday. Segway doesn't fix the problem of parking it. I doubt most food places would let you bring it in. So you have to find somewhere to put it. Yes, you may be able to get across town faster, but if you have no place to put it, then what good does it do you. Last I checked, you don't have to find anywhere to put your shoes when you go somewhere. I'm more than willing to listen to the benfits but I still don't have to agree with them.

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    3. Re:Segway - Opening Doors to new levels of fat by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1

      Ah, typically short-sighted peon. You're a follower, obviously a leader. You can't envision a time when people thought to themselves, "Well fuck, there's no roads. What's the point in owning a car?" Short sighted short sighted short sighted - that's all you are. Don't ever reply to one of my posts again.

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  63. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    A $10,000+ creation that opens doors. It won't stand a chance when I release my $20,000+ robot that digs holes and fills them back in.

  64. Roman goddess of door pivots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cardea, named after the Roman goddess of thresholds and door pivots,

    The Roman goddess of door pivots??? I guess Cardea wasn't very high up on the Roman goddess totem pole.

  65. At last... by mwood · · Score: 1

    ...a use for the Segway, or part of it anyway.

  66. But... by mishehu · · Score: 1

    According to the marketting department of the Syrius Cybernetics Corp., a robot is your plastic pal who's fun to be with.

    I don't suppose this new machine is going to have a chronically depressed mood is it?
    Life, don't talk to me about life...

  67. You know it's going to be said... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1
    "How long do the batteries last, anyway? It's not much good if they run out in, say, five minutes."

    You know it's going to be said sooner or later so I'll get it out of the way:
    The human body generates more bioelectricity than a 120 Volt battery and over 25,000 BTUs of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion, the machines had found all the energy they would ever need.
    ...mod me to hell, but don't say I didn't warn ya!
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    1. Re:You know it's going to be said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate this. The human body does not "generate" energy, but converts it from other materials, along with the accompanying thermodynamic losses.

      It didn't need to be said, it's not a good sci-fi idea, it's not funny, and you don't even deserve to be modded to hell - you deserve to be modded not at all (which appears to be what is happening).

  68. Can some one explain why... by schlick · · Score: 1

    ...people feel the need for

    a human-like head with expressive features

    I think if robot designers would just quit trying to make robots look like people, real people would just get used to it. What is the value in spending so much time makeing robots look/act human? It seems like a real waste to me. Wouldn't it be better to spend more time making the robot do something useful. Sheesh if you want a friend, go to a bar or join some sort of club but for christ sakes stop trying to build one.

    The only reasonable argument I can see for emulating some human behaviors/intellect is some sort of general purpose robot. However, in my opinion though this probably wouldn't work well. It would probably perform like the printer/copier/scanner combos that we have toaday. In my expierience those multifunction devices perform poorly and fail early. The way technology progresses these days spending so much time on "personality" really seems like intellectual masturbation.

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  69. Inevitable Simpsons Reference by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    [metallic voice]
    "FA-THER! Give me legs!"
    [/metallic voice]

    Stefan

  70. Grocery stores, airport doors, hospital doors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    somehow nobody has ever been able to invent a door that opens on its own.

    Heck, just install the doors that slide sideways, just like the ones at grocery stores, airports, and hospitals. They are all over the place in the United States.

  71. Re: No one gets it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that this thing is sitting on a Segway is completely irrelevant here! And it's not "just opening doors"

    Consider this: The robot must be able to move up to a door, determine what kind of door it is, which way does it open... does it it swing inward or outward? Which side is it hinged on?

    Then it opens it in a manner that allows itself to maneuver itself inside, without slamming into the door, or letting the door whack it in the backside, etc.

  72. Rosie, fetch me my slippers by Locutus · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of Rosie Jetson, the balancing maid on the olde time carton "The Jetsons". I think Rosie only had one wheel but it's a start. ;-) The one feature of being able to balance may turn out to be a big break for robot mobility and usefulness. Just think if all the designs there have been for keeping robots from falling over just going up ramps, let alone stairs.

    Rosie, fetch me my Uggs. :)

    LoB

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  73. Homeless door opening robots? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    Will we now get homeless robots opening doors at McDonald's and train stations asking "spare some amp-hours when you get out please?"

  74. X-Doorminator 3000 by Zepher66 · · Score: 1

    It's nice to see DARPA funding some projects with interesting possibilities.

    Of course, the goal is to also make the robot able "to safely interact with humans at eye level" (Technology Review) - which I doubt interests the military much...Unless they are curious about how safe it would be around other soldiers with a giant gun strapped to its back.

    Though, a gun-toting Doorman Robot would probably make people move through doorways faster. Perhaps the Robot Doorman would also have the ability to shoot terrorist suspects on sight as it scanned the Microsoft brand ID tags that will be implanted in our necks - it would know, after all, if we went to www.burqa-porn.com or http://usgov.IwantToOverthrowIt.org, downloaded a linux OS, etc - instant terrorist flags.

  75. Why not have it do something useful? by McTavi · · Score: 1
    Like something no geek wants to do, like mow the lawn. Give the thing an electric lawnmower and put a electric weed whacker in it's third arm.

    Sure, this whole thing is ment to be a lesson in robotics, but I don't think they are going to get a better complemnt than "That's a cute trick."

  76. The real question... by TimboJones · · Score: 1

    Can it close doors, too? It's starting to get cold outside; bad enough when people leave the doors open.

  77. This seems a little more interesting by firippu · · Score: 1
  78. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get back to me when a segway is mated with a RealDoll.
    That should be interesting.

  79. Mod parent down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent down

  80. Phase II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a door opening _AND_ paparazzi smashing robot.

    Sounds like a best seller on Rodeo Drive.

    Arnold is signing an order for 1000 this afternoon.

  81. NASA's is way cooler... by Mr.+Spleen · · Score: 1

    http://robonaut.jsc.nasa.gov/status/Sep_Robonaut_S tatus_03.htm

    Robonaut + Segway = Really, really cool! And in response to the question I know will be asked (what's with those huge braces in all the photos), the reason those are there is this: just in case, for some reason, the thing falls down, they don't want it to hit the ground. The Segway RMP part is worth about $5000, but the Robonaut torso is worth either $250,000 or $750,000 (I can't remember which), and it banging into the ground would be a very bad thing.

    Mr. Spleen

  82. Schwarzenegger by BriSTO(V)L · · Score: 1

    At least this Segway-Robot was born in the USA, so unlike the Governor of California, it will be able to serve as President of the country...

  83. Bust down doors and walls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    five feet tall with a torso, three arms, a human-like head with expressive features and able to push doors.

    This reminds me of the old Koolaid TV commercials!

    Hey Koolaid!!!!

  84. Why do we need it? by Che+Guevarra · · Score: 1

    Very much like the original Segway, I ask this question. If it weren't for the cool gyro system, would we need it? If this robot or the original Segway where on tricycle wheels and had a normal steering system, would it be needed by anyone? The Segway is only an innovation because of it's innovation. It does not satisfy any needs or wants.

  85. Perfect sex toy by torklugnutz · · Score: 1

    Awesome, it could pinch both my nipples and give me a handjob at the same time! Please forward this to the folks at RealDoll.com

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  86. The Honda "Asimo" by Slur · · Score: 1

    This is a cool idea that will certainly lead to better things.

    Honda has been developing a robot for awhile now. It was originally codenamed P1, but it's been publicly announced with the name Asimo, an unabiguous homage to "I, Robot" author Isaac Asimov.

    Asimo is intended to become a household robot, so it has legs instead of wheels. It's pretty adept and can already climb stairs. It doesn't approach the dexterity of Hollywood robots by any stretch. Last I knew Asimo was unable to figure out the height of stairs on its own, either visually or by trial-and-error. By now it's likely to have some software to do this.

    Eventually robots will have to incorporate a bit of both - a gyroscopic balance system, plus smart processors in the joints and head to better judge orientation - so this work at MIT is pretty useful in that area.

    Of course the folks at MIT are probably most interested in giving their learning robots the ability to move around and gain new experiences. You can't do much better than a Segway base for that!

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  87. The Jetsons' robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    has only one wheel. The Bombardier monocycle platform will be way more cool.

  88. The long version... by Eric+Smalley · · Score: 1

    ... of this TRN story is here.

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