Or move to Somalia. No pesky taxes or government regulations there. Gee, I wonder why all these highly-paid CEO's aren't all moving over there, and taking their companies with them?
That analysis doesn't take into account the cost to society of unemployed people-after all, there ARE societal costs, in unemployment, unpaid-for emergency-room visits that are the only alternative for truly sick people with no insurance, the breakdown of peoples' expections of and from society, etc. These companies that are profiting are not paying the true costs. No economic models take these costs into account, they are all vastly over-simplified
Yes, sir. Protecting a nation is exactly what a government is supposed to do. I disagree with many of the ways the U.S. govt. is heading, but anything that protects good-paying U.S. jobs, and truly enhances national security, by, oh, say, protecting vital industries like steel, is OK in my book.
What about the cost of workers not having jobs? Do they just disappear? No, they either need new jobs, probably paying less than they were making before, thus spending less, thus contibuting less to the economy, or they need to be retrained to do another job, same effects+, or they collect unemployment and/or welfare, real drag, or, in the extreme, they turn to crime, to keep from starving. These "pure capitalism" economic models are amazingly incomplete, and the gullible buy them every time...
Libertarianism is a vector, not a destination. As a destination, it is indistinguishable from anarchy. There IS a place like that, if you want to go there...it's called Somalia. No functioning government, at all. So why don't we see a mass exodus of libertarians to there?
If, in your blind zealoutry for the goal of "free trade", you think low consumer prices are more important than the overall economic health of various sectors of the economy, just explain how safe we would be, if we HAD TO RELY on Russian steel to build those tanks with, that Republicans so love to send around the world.
Amen. The first business of government is DEFENSE, above even prosperity. Some businesses are so necessary to defense, they MUST be protected. To hell with "Free Trade", it's making us all compete, labor-wise, with 3rd-world countries. It's only beneficial to CEO's of mutinational corporations.
Is it more important to you, that you may pay a few bucks less more memory, or that manufacturing jobs stay in the U.S.? Non-U.S. manufacturers don't need to comply with U.S. labor laws, which is why their labor costs are lower, and jobs are moving overseas. "Free Trade" is another name for, screw the average American.
I drove a truck for a couple of years. There was a service called Park 'n' View, for a while, that was available at some truckstops, $5 a day, or $30 for a month, where you could hook up a phone line and a coax cable inside your truck, from the parking lot, and get cable tv, phone, and dial-up internet. It spurred quite a few drivers to buy laptops.
Dude.Learn to spell. Damn, I'm constantly amazed at how many people can't spell, at all. Are these the same people writing code, for applications? No wonder so many are bug-ridden...
Look up the age of consent in most countries. In most states in the US, it's either 17 or 18[AR used to be 16, but I think it was changed in the early 90's or so]. In most Western countries [Britain, Europe, ect.], it's 16, still. In some countries, it's much younger. Hell, I was 11, when I got laid by a 34-yr-old woman, and I never complained about it;-)
Noone mentioned Spider Robinson [very talented, he can make ya cry and laugh out loud, in the same short story - and he tells terrible puns;-) Start with Callahan's Crosstime Saloon...], Harry Harrison [The Deathworld Trilogy, Soylent Green, The Stainless Steel Rat, ect.]. Frederick Pohl, C.M. Kornbluth, J.G. Ballard, Arthur C. Clarke[!!?], Alan Dean Foster, L. Sprague De Camp, Alfred Bester, A.E. Van Vogt...I could go on, for pages.
Of course, that's why in 'Murica we've had about 1200 people locked up without any charges even being filed against them, for over a year. They haven't seen a judge, much less a lawyer. The really scary part: most good ol' 'Muricans think this is just ok, fine, dandy, and the way things oughtta be. After all, they were arrested by legal authorities, so they must have done SOMETHING wrong, right? Heck, Fox news says so, so it's gotta be so.
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Or move to Somalia. No pesky taxes or government regulations there. Gee, I wonder why all these highly-paid CEO's aren't all moving over there, and taking their companies with them?
That analysis doesn't take into account the cost to society of unemployed people-after all, there ARE societal costs, in unemployment, unpaid-for emergency-room visits that are the only alternative for truly sick people with no insurance, the breakdown of peoples' expections of and from society, etc. These companies that are profiting are not paying the true costs. No economic models take these costs into account, they are all vastly over-simplified
Yes, sir. Protecting a nation is exactly what a government is supposed to do. I disagree with many of the ways the U.S. govt. is heading, but anything that protects good-paying U.S. jobs, and truly enhances national security, by, oh, say, protecting vital industries like steel, is OK in my book.
What about the cost of workers not having jobs? Do they just disappear? No, they either need new jobs, probably paying less than they were making before, thus spending less, thus contibuting less to the economy, or they need to be retrained to do another job, same effects+, or they collect unemployment and/or welfare, real drag, or, in the extreme, they turn to crime, to keep from starving. These "pure capitalism" economic models are amazingly incomplete, and the gullible buy them every time...
Libertarianism is a vector, not a destination. As a destination, it is indistinguishable from anarchy. There IS a place like that, if you want to go there...it's called Somalia. No functioning government, at all. So why don't we see a mass exodus of libertarians to there?
If, in your blind zealoutry for the goal of "free trade", you think low consumer prices are more important than the overall economic health of various sectors of the economy, just explain how safe we would be, if we HAD TO RELY on Russian steel to build those tanks with, that Republicans so love to send around the world.
Good idea! I think all countries should try an across-the-board tariff on everything of about 15%, actually.
Amen. The first business of government is DEFENSE, above even prosperity. Some businesses are so necessary to defense, they MUST be protected. To hell with "Free Trade", it's making us all compete, labor-wise, with 3rd-world countries. It's only beneficial to CEO's of mutinational corporations.
Is it more important to you, that you may pay a few bucks less more memory, or that manufacturing jobs stay in the U.S.? Non-U.S. manufacturers don't need to comply with U.S. labor laws, which is why their labor costs are lower, and jobs are moving overseas. "Free Trade" is another name for, screw the average American.
I drove a truck for a couple of years. There was a service called Park 'n' View, for a while, that was available at some truckstops, $5 a day, or $30 for a month, where you could hook up a phone line and a coax cable inside your truck, from the parking lot, and get cable tv, phone, and dial-up internet. It spurred quite a few drivers to buy laptops.
Dude.Learn to spell. Damn, I'm constantly amazed at how many people can't spell, at all. Are these the same people writing code, for applications? No wonder so many are bug-ridden...
Look up the age of consent in most countries. In most states in the US, it's either 17 or 18[AR used to be 16, but I think it was changed in the early 90's or so]. In most Western countries [Britain, Europe, ect.], it's 16, still. In some countries, it's much younger. Hell, I was 11, when I got laid by a 34-yr-old woman, and I never complained about it ;-)
Noone mentioned Spider Robinson [very talented, he can make ya cry and laugh out loud, in the same short story - and he tells terrible puns ;-) Start with Callahan's Crosstime Saloon...], Harry Harrison [The Deathworld Trilogy, Soylent Green, The Stainless Steel Rat, ect.]. Frederick Pohl, C.M. Kornbluth, J.G. Ballard, Arthur C. Clarke[!!?], Alan Dean Foster, L. Sprague De Camp, Alfred Bester, A.E. Van Vogt...I could go on, for pages.
Of course, that's why in 'Murica we've had about 1200 people locked up without any charges even being filed against them, for over a year. They haven't seen a judge, much less a lawyer. The really scary part: most good ol' 'Muricans think this is just ok, fine, dandy, and the way things oughtta be. After all, they were arrested by legal authorities, so they must have done SOMETHING wrong, right? Heck, Fox news says so, so it's gotta be so.