You know, I never understood why they did this as default. And I am also surprised it took this long for anyone to loudly complain. First thing I have always done when installing 2k/xp machines that don't need it is uncheck that option.
MS clients should not attempt this unless they are on a 2k AD domain. This is also as someone pointed out a good reason to filter your outgoing traffic.
It reminds me of when they had that check for "logon" enabled by default for ppp connections, when 90% of ISP's didn't support this.
Since Corel left there has been a void, that even Mandrake doesn't fill. Lycoris Desktop may just fill that void. Lycoris has a very easy install, easier than Mandrake. The best part is the well thought out desktop. And like Corel, instead of the 50 text editors you usually get,you a slimed down selection. There is only one mp3 player, one browser etc. IMHO they have eliminated the confusion most users suffer when they first use linux. They have set up an environment where you just sit down and get your work done. You want to type a letter, simple use Kword. There is none of this "do I use kword,abiword,openoffice,etc" confusion.
While many linux experts will see this as a negative, you have to recognize that KISS is what no other linux distro has mastered since Corel left. I for one welcome this change. Pick the "best" desktop apps, and package them on a easy to use desktop. In this case I think the concept of less choice has worked.
Umm so you can support the company that did the actual work?! Seriously you don't have to buy it, but if we don't support companies like this then there will be NO future enhancements to wine. Obviously codeweavers has/is providing a valuable service that would not exist otherwise so why not support them?
I think your missing the big picture, that if wine works for office, soon you may be able to go into a store and pick up a tax program and just install it. Now I know this has been a pie in the sky wine dream for years now, but as of late we have real progress. Also for people who use any Office suite a lot, being able to run MS Office is great, SO and OO just don't offer 100% compatiblity, which many people need. I also think you vastly under estimate the number of people who won't even consider linux because of lack of MS Office.
Now I've converted a bunch of people to linux over the years, and ran linux as my main desktop for several years. But about a year ago I had to switch to Win2k. Why? Because of Office, or more specifically Outlook. I need full compatability and OWA(web access) does not always cut it. I also need to be able to send and receive word and excel docs EXACTLY as they come to me. There are no native linux products which do this perfectly. There are always formatting issues etc etc. Now with this plugin I have the potential to switch back for what I consider to be a minor cost. Considering my distro is free $50 is not much to pay. So in conclusion I'm very excited and looking forward goes back to linux full time. BTW one thing to keep in mind is that if they can get Office running other apps like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Autocad etc can't be far behind. Yes native is better, but native is not coming anytime soon from companies like Adobe. So I say full steam ahead for wine.
"Ii don't agree. Competition keeps people moving. Linux didn't patch the kernel until the major branches became a threat"
Yes but there is a major difference between the threat of a major branch forming, and the current situation where two major "branches" exist and continue to draw resources for years. Having whomever keep their own kernel branch does not really affect that many people or coders when compared to KDE v Gnome.
With KDE and Gnome we have hundreds or maybe even thousands of people working against each other to create the same thing. Which is by any measurement a waste of resources. Trust me this Gnome v KDE impass is unique in its scope and size, and goes way beyond any of the old which shell or editor to use arguments. In this case the competition argument is not working in a positive manner.
KDE v Gnome was a good thing years ago. But now it is largely a duplication of efforts. Granted its pie in the sky, but imagine how far along the linux desktop would be if all those developers coded for one and not two projects. The bazaar model is not always the best. The problem is how do you tell someone who codes for free what they should work on? And even though I don't like KDE v Gnome I'm certainly not going to tell someone what they should code.
"Suited for Web delivery at the edge of the network, Linux servers offer an alternative to proprietary and closed environments such as Microsoft Windows"
So linux is only good for light web serving duty?
"implementation decisions that make sense on PC hardware "
Read between the lines linux is for low end "pc class hardware"
"Applications that run on Linux for Intel need to be recompiled and recertified for each new platform; thus the application portfolio to run Linux on a mainframe is small("
here we see the time honored no apps FUD.
"Why put an open operating system such as Linux on a closed proprietary mainframe?"
cough....did he actually say that...cough
Sun loves to dam linux with faint praise. The only reason they even have a linux "strategy" is because of fear of losing market share.
Me thinks the dot in.com is fast becoming a dud.
I think your missing the point
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The point of this article is to show what many people have not seen, the inside of Intel. In the spirit of that I see nothing wrong with it.
"another example of rhetorical writing pulled from th first few paragraphs
very talented engineers [who] are focused on pushing the limits of technology"
And while it may be teeny bit fluffy per your above quote, Anand is certainly not going to write how the Intel engineers are know-nothing smelly idiots. Christ they have a relationship with them and just maybe might need that P4 3GHz when it comes out. And no I don't think this makes Anand a non-credible source for cpu/hardware reviews. If you read any of them you know they often praise AMD.
I think your forgetting OS X which is BSD based. Like Apple says they will soon have the largest installed base for unix desktops.If OS X ran on X86 linux would probably fall off the face of the earth as far as nix destkops go.
"Linux appliances don't seem to be the sure-sell"
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That's a pretty dumb statement to make. Linux is doing very well in the small "appliance" space. All of the handheld makers except for MS are looking to run linux on their devices, all of the TV set to box makers are looking to run linux, and everywhere else I look besides the desktop, companies are falling over themselves to draw up a business plan for linux in their small devices. You must not read the same press releases I do. More and more if its a samll multifunction device especially for the home, we are seeing linux inside. Keep in mind many of the people who read Slash daily these days are PHB's and for them to hear one of the "linux community" doubt linux in an area were it is doing well is needless FUD.
So you think Eazel was just a big scam? You think those engineers said "hey lets waste a year of our lives on a project that's doomed to fail"? They tried to provide a service in an area where Gnome was seriously lacking. Any investor who lost money on this has no one to blame but themselves. Any investment is a risk especially in a linux company.
As far as future investment I don't see IBM pulling out of the market. I think it was a stupid premise to make money on in the first place. If anything it shows potential linux startups that they need to provide solid mainstream apps, not niche products.
You really can't blame Eazel for what happened. They made a good faith effort to provide an advanced filemanager/brower/whatever for Gnome. Unfortunatly the linux desktop market being 2% or whatever it is now , cannot support such a company in a profitable way. Eazel did not force their filemanager on Gnome, Gnome asked for it willingly. If anyone is to blame its the project leaders at Gnome who full knowing this could happen went ahead and put all their eggs in one basket. The positive aspect to this is its GPL'd and development will continue. I know this is little comfort to many, but this is opensource Darwinism in action, and things like this happen. Maybe the Gnome group will learn from this and become better for it.
"You don't make friends with salad" ac no more
Its pretty sad that a company with as rich a gaming history as Nintendo is so spooked about Xbox that they would even consider this. First Dreamcast stops production, then MS hires many of Sony's developers away. Not that I won't consider an Xbox myself when it comes out, its just that it appears with MS entering the gaming market like all other markets it enters, your choice is now becoming limited. Very sad indeed.
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You know, I never understood why they did this as default. And I am also surprised it took this long for anyone to loudly complain. First thing I have always done when installing 2k/xp machines that don't need it is uncheck that option.
MS clients should not attempt this unless they are on a 2k AD domain. This is also as someone pointed out a good reason to filter your outgoing traffic.
It reminds me of when they had that check for "logon" enabled by default for ppp connections, when 90% of ISP's didn't support this.
Since Corel left there has been a void, that even Mandrake doesn't fill. Lycoris Desktop may just fill that void. Lycoris has a very easy install, easier than Mandrake. The best part is the well thought out desktop. And like Corel, instead of the 50 text editors you usually get,you a slimed down selection. There is only one mp3 player, one browser etc. IMHO they have eliminated the confusion most users suffer when they first use linux. They have set up an environment where you just sit down and get your work done. You want to type a letter, simple use Kword. There is none of this "do I use kword,abiword,openoffice,etc" confusion.
While many linux experts will see this as a negative, you have to recognize that KISS is what no other linux distro has mastered since Corel left. I for one welcome this change. Pick the "best" desktop apps, and package them on a easy to use desktop. In this case I think the concept of less choice has worked.
Umm so you can support the company that did the actual work?! Seriously you don't have to buy it, but if we don't support companies like this then there will be NO future enhancements to wine. Obviously codeweavers has/is providing a valuable service that would not exist otherwise so why not support them?
I think your missing the big picture, that if wine works for office, soon you may be able to go into a store and pick up a tax program and just install it. Now I know this has been a pie in the sky wine dream for years now, but as of late we have real progress.
Also for people who use any Office suite a lot, being able to run MS Office is great, SO and OO just don't offer 100% compatiblity, which many people need. I also think you vastly under estimate the number of people who won't even consider linux because of lack of MS Office.
Now I've converted a bunch of people to linux over the years, and ran linux as my main desktop for several years. But about a year ago I had to switch to Win2k. Why? Because of Office, or more specifically Outlook. I need full compatability and OWA(web access) does not always cut it. I also need to be able to send and receive word and excel docs EXACTLY as they come to me. There are no native linux products which do this perfectly. There are always formatting issues etc etc. Now with this plugin I have the potential to switch back for what I consider to be a minor cost. Considering my distro is free $50 is not much to pay. So in conclusion I'm very excited and looking forward goes back to linux full time.
BTW one thing to keep in mind is that if they can get Office running other apps like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Autocad etc can't be far behind. Yes native is better, but native is not coming anytime soon from companies like Adobe. So I say full steam ahead for wine.
"Ii don't agree. Competition keeps people moving. Linux didn't patch the kernel until the major branches became a threat"
Yes but there is a major difference between the threat of a major branch forming, and the current situation where two major "branches" exist and continue to draw resources for years. Having whomever keep their own kernel branch does not really affect that many people or coders when compared to KDE v Gnome.
With KDE and Gnome we have hundreds or maybe even thousands of people working against each other to create the same thing. Which is by any measurement a waste of resources. Trust me this Gnome v KDE impass is unique in its scope and size, and goes way beyond any of the old which shell or editor to use arguments. In this case the competition argument is not working in a positive manner.
KDE v Gnome was a good thing years ago. But now it is largely a duplication of efforts. Granted its pie in the sky, but imagine how far along the linux desktop would be if all those developers coded for one and not two projects. The bazaar model is not always the best. The problem is how do you tell someone who codes for free what they should work on? And even though I don't like KDE v Gnome I'm certainly not going to tell someone what they should code.
"Suited for Web delivery at the edge of the network, Linux servers offer an alternative to proprietary and closed environments such as Microsoft Windows"
.com is fast becoming a dud.
So linux is only good for light web serving duty?
"implementation decisions that make sense on PC hardware "
Read between the lines linux is for low end "pc class hardware"
"Applications that run on Linux for Intel need to be recompiled and recertified for each new platform; thus the application portfolio to run Linux on a mainframe is small("
here we see the time honored no apps FUD.
"Why put an open operating system such as Linux on a closed proprietary mainframe?"
cough....did he actually say that...cough
Sun loves to dam linux with faint praise. The only reason they even have a linux "strategy" is because of fear of losing market share.
Me thinks the dot in
The point of this article is to show what many people have not seen, the inside of Intel. In the spirit of that I see nothing wrong with it.
"another example of rhetorical writing pulled from th first few paragraphs
very talented engineers [who] are focused on pushing the limits of technology"
And while it may be teeny bit fluffy per your above quote, Anand is certainly not going to write how the Intel engineers are know-nothing smelly idiots. Christ they have a relationship with them and just maybe might need that P4 3GHz when it comes out. And no I don't think this makes Anand a non-credible source for cpu/hardware reviews. If you read any of them you know they often praise AMD.
Geez lighten up.
I think your forgetting OS X which is BSD based. Like Apple says they will soon have the largest installed base for unix desktops.If OS X ran on X86 linux would probably fall off the face of the earth as far as nix destkops go.
That's a pretty dumb statement to make. Linux is doing very well in the small "appliance" space. All of the handheld makers except for MS are looking to run linux on their devices, all of the TV set to box makers are looking to run linux, and everywhere else I look besides the desktop, companies are falling over themselves to draw up a business plan for linux in their small devices. You must not read the same press releases I do. More and more if its a samll multifunction device especially for the home, we are seeing linux inside. Keep in mind many of the people who read Slash daily these days are PHB's and for them to hear one of the "linux community" doubt linux in an area were it is doing well is needless FUD.
So you think Eazel was just a big scam? You think those engineers said "hey lets waste a year of our lives on a project that's doomed to fail"? They tried to provide a service in an area where Gnome was seriously lacking. Any investor who lost money on this has no one to blame but themselves. Any investment is a risk especially in a linux company.
As far as future investment I don't see IBM pulling out of the market. I think it was a stupid premise to make money on in the first place. If anything it shows potential linux startups that they need to provide solid mainstream apps, not niche products.
You really can't blame Eazel for what happened. They made a good faith effort to provide an advanced filemanager/brower/whatever for Gnome. Unfortunatly the linux desktop market being 2% or whatever it is now , cannot support such a company in a profitable way. Eazel did not force their filemanager on Gnome, Gnome asked for it willingly. If anyone is to blame its the project leaders at Gnome who full knowing this could happen went ahead and put all their eggs in one basket. The positive aspect to this is its GPL'd and development will continue. I know this is little comfort to many, but this is opensource Darwinism in action, and things like this happen. Maybe the Gnome group will learn from this and become better for it. "You don't make friends with salad" ac no more
Its pretty sad that a company with as rich a gaming history as Nintendo is so spooked about Xbox that they would even consider this. First Dreamcast stops production, then MS hires many of Sony's developers away. Not that I won't consider an Xbox myself when it comes out, its just that it appears with MS entering the gaming market like all other markets it enters, your choice is now becoming limited. Very sad indeed.
I use mandrake 7.2 w/ a voodoo 3 2000 and the opengl accel is pretty crappy by default. Compared to XFree 3.3.6 w/glide. Will the DRI module fix this?