Re:My experiences with Windows XP Professional
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"Needless to say, I had our quad Xeons back running OpenBSD by the end of the week. Gerbil is back on its way to another glorious 3 years of uptime"
You mean the OpenBSD that doesn't do SMP yet??
Is this a cut and paste? Because I think I remember a story similar to this where again someone madeup a bunch of crap, and then stupidly said OpenBSd was running on their big SMP boxes.
And yes I am aware of the side project to try to bring smp to openbsd but that barely complies.
Are those default or compiled special like the liquid kde theme? I was rather disappointed that Mosfet liquid isn't standard with KDE. I would hope based on how good your shots look, gnome would use that as default. Considering how nicy/candyish OSX and XP are I think people will want the same thing when they try linux.
"the person running VS.NET would actually have to install IE 5.5 over IE 6 (why would anyone do that) and browse a certain help file in order for it to get infected"
IE 6 is still vulnerable to nimda. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default. asp?url=/technet/security/topics/NimdaIE6.asp
I don't know what distro you use, but as far as Redhat or Debian goes, they pretty much release whenever they feel the product is ready, not when a new desktop comes out. In fact ever time a new Redhat Desktop comes out, everyone whines "why are they realeasing now and not including X with it?". If your distro puts out a new release the day Gnome 2 comes out, I suggest you find a new distro.
Cool cutting edge graphics are great, but really its still the gameplay that matters. It seems like all the gaming sites/rags/etc only get off on talking about pixel shaders, and game engines, when all the gamer wants is something original and fun to play. I just pray it can measure up to games like Half-life, No One Lives Forever, and Dues Ex. I want an ACTUAL STORYLINE, scripted events, and real NPC interaction. If its just Doom/Quake/Serious Sam style gameplay, with great graphics I won't be buying this time around.
" The only difference is that the UnitedLinux binaries will not freely distributed. People will be able to download the source code and compile their own binaries, but they will not be able to use the UnitedLinux brand"
Please people now is the time to rally behind the truely free distros out there. If your going to use linux use Redhat,Debian,Gentoo,Slackware,Mandrake, or any of the other fine binary/iso friendly distros out there.
While I applaud standards I don't think this is the way to go about it.
"But its not to increase Linux's acceptance, really:) "
That is not what the article is implying.
"We want to use that (earlier Cobalt Linux work) as a model for getting Solaris functions and features" INTO Linux, Mehra said. Mehra declined to offer specifics of what changes Sun hoped to make other than improvements to how Linux handles common computing processes known as threads, changes Sun hopes WILL MAKE LINUX WORK BETTER ON HIGH-END SERVERS WITH MANY PROCESSORS"
Also
"Sun this summer will introduce its first general-purpose Linux servers, lower-end machines used for tasks such as delivering Web pages or sharing files"
So while I agree that yes that are trying to make Solaris better, they obviously see a future for linux and are trying to improve and promote it.
Why are you comparing the one recent security bug of Moz with the flood of IE holes?
Someone found a security bug, moz fixed it quickly end of story. This is how open source works. There was no denying by moz developers of the bug and it was fixed, what else do you want?
Why should we jump down their throat?
There is a big difference between this and MS's efforts to deny and then blame eveyone else for their secuity holes. Do you know how many billions of dollars were lost last year because of shoddy MS security? Over 10 billion. Only a few months ago did they announce that they are "serious" about security. Not to mention their attempts to destory linux, the gpl, and the rest of the software industry. Did I mention Handhelds, gaming consoles, and set top boxes. Did I mention they have broken numberous laws and are using a illegal monopoly to squeeze money from the entire planet.
Now Troll, you were saying something about how we should root against Moz and treat MS with respect?
Yea I noticed how snappy the menus are as well. Especially with regards on my windows machine. On this box the imported IE favorities took forever to load. You would mouse over the Imported IE favorites bookmark folder, and it would take forever for the bookmarks to come up.
Also they FINALLY fixed the cut and paste bookmarks bug, which really annoyed me. Good thing I keep a backup or else I would have lost tons of bookmarks trying to cut and paste them.
I can't help but feel that they are too late in the trial to get anything good out this.
The real issue here is not browsers, since removing IE is a just a stupid idea, its forcing MS to disclose its hiddens API's and file formats.
Chopping XP into pieces will only harm the consumer. But for example, if Open Office had access to the complete office file specs we could start to see some real change. Also how about publishing the AD specs so Samba can be dropped in without any problems.
I really think that if these two steps are implemented, and MS is forced to deal with OEMs in a fair way, we will all be the better for it.
What sucks is, the possibility of this happening doesn't even seem to be on the roadmap.
As an aside I also think the judges and many of the people involved don't even understand the technology which for me is scary. How can you make judgements on something you don't even understand? I know that's a simplistic point of view but seriously, you can't tell me that if the judge was poor and couldn't afford to buy MS Office he wouldn't be pissed that Open Office mangles his word docs because MS is so tightassed about the specs. Having a judge who knows both nix and windows well might produce bias, but at least he would know what he was talking about when he made his ruling. Right now there is a 50/50 chance that because he doesn't understand technology he might rule that "yeah MS not disclosing the API's for security makes sense to me...a lay person".
You seem to forgot about a little thing called 3rd party publishers, who can charge whatever they see fit. Also the prices for games drop over time. If you wait a year you can buy the games for like $9.99. Somehow though the prices for my old ass HP inkjet haven't dropped. Every time I buy a new color refill I am paying more then the unit is worth.
Well with the 1.0 I can do this on my machine. Just for a test, I took a word doc. Opened in OO, saved as a OO file. Then editted that OO file. Then resaved it as Word. Then reopend the file in Word 2k. File stayed the same. The only difference was I had to hit enter a few times on the import of the orginal word doc to getting the formatting right. The only problem I have detected are a few very minor spacing issues, which a backspace or enter fixes.
Kudos to redhat and all the production studios who are willing to buck the trend and push linux. Next up are all the T.V. production studios. It make take a while for it to all trickle down to the average desktop user, but rest assured linux has a bright a/v future.
Redhat is probably the most "sever" distro available. They do the most QA and load testing on high end hardware of any linux vendor. "Servers" are Redhat's ONLY market. They target the enterprise server market and that's it. If you are questioning me you need to read their financial data and press releases. I'm not making anything up. The fact that gnome and kde are included is really just a bonus. RPM is not a bad as people advertise. The thing you have to realize is that people in the linux community talk a lot of smack. Ever since redhat became the leading distro the fringe linux distros have become more and more vocal about their hatred for redhat. That doesn't mean its not a good distro, but it does mean you can expect them to call it a "newbie" distro even though it is not. Redhat is not meant to be exciting or cutting edge, or the best desktop. Its meant to be installed as a server and left alone. Regarding a comparison to debian or slack directly, all I will say is you can use any distro for any task. They all have pluses and minuses. Personally IMHO one of the big advantages of redhat is the software and hardware vendors are behind it. You can be sure that if and when a vendor decides to support linux, redhat will be first on the list. So in a nutshell redhat is a corporate centric server distro, which although not as sexy as Gentoo, will server you well and be supported for a long time to come.
I'm not making a value statement here, but its ironic that you should try to take a jab at redhat yet again
when suse itself is not free . You can now and always will be able to download free redhat ISO's. Suse on the otherhand will only allow you download an eval or do an ftp install. Until you can buy a Suse iso at cheapbytes or download official iso's I would avoid taking cheap shots like this. This reminds me of a post not long ago when the new Freebsd came out and the poster mentioned several good points about bsd then tried to slip in something about redhat being a "train wreck". He was modded a +5 until the mods came to their senses and dropped him to -1 Troll.
Sometimes I think the pissing MS does on Opensource is nothing compared to how much its users piss on each other already.
So does anyone have any hard evidence that Peter Gutmann's method does not work? For example many people use the program Eraser or another which utilizes this method, is this a waste of time?
I agree that this topic has been discussed, but I personally have never seen a story where someone has proved it does or does not work. Eveyone just says physical destruction is the only way...or I've "heard" of overwrite patterns in the 20s not being secure. So any have anything that is not heresay??
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"Needless to say, I had our quad Xeons back running OpenBSD by the end of the week. Gerbil is back on its way to another glorious 3 years of uptime"
You mean the OpenBSD that doesn't do SMP yet??
Is this a cut and paste? Because I think I remember a story similar to this where again someone madeup a bunch of crap, and then stupidly said OpenBSd was running on their big SMP boxes.
And yes I am aware of the side project to try to bring smp to openbsd but that barely complies.
Are those default or compiled special like the liquid kde theme? I was rather disappointed that Mosfet liquid isn't standard with KDE. I would hope based on how good your shots look, gnome would use that as default. Considering how nicy/candyish OSX and XP are I think people will want the same thing when they try linux.
"the person running VS.NET would actually have to install IE 5.5 over IE 6 (why would anyone do that) and browse a certain help file in order for it to get infected"
. asp?url=/technet/security/topics/NimdaIE6.asp
IE 6 is still vulnerable to nimda. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default
Per Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default. asp?url=/technet/security/topics/NimdaIE6.asp
I don't know what distro you use, but as far as Redhat or Debian goes, they pretty much release whenever they feel the product is ready, not when a new desktop comes out. In fact ever time a new Redhat Desktop comes out, everyone whines "why are they realeasing now and not including X with it?". If your distro puts out a new release the day Gnome 2 comes out, I suggest you find a new distro.
"How is this big news? Just because the word "LINUX" is in it??? "
Ummmm... Yes??
Why are you complaining that the biggest pro-linux newsite on the internet is reporting on a huge win for linux?
I think you may have logged into the wrong website.
Cool cutting edge graphics are great, but really its still the gameplay that matters. It seems like all the gaming sites/rags/etc only get off on talking about pixel shaders, and game engines, when all the gamer wants is something original and fun to play. I just pray it can measure up to games like Half-life, No One Lives Forever, and Dues Ex. I want an ACTUAL STORYLINE, scripted events, and real NPC interaction. If its just Doom/Quake/Serious Sam style gameplay, with great graphics I won't be buying this time around.
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" The only difference is that the UnitedLinux binaries will not freely distributed. People will be able to download the source code and compile their own binaries, but they will not be able to use the UnitedLinux brand"
Please people now is the time to rally behind the truely free distros out there. If your going to use linux use Redhat,Debian,Gentoo,Slackware,Mandrake, or any of the other fine binary/iso friendly distros out there.
While I applaud standards I don't think this is the way to go about it.
From what I understand that number is only for opting out of preapproved credit offers, that's it.
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It will NOT stop junkmail or telemarketers. So if your not receiving junk mail, its not because you called this number.
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.ht
"But its not to increase Linux's acceptance, really :) "
That is not what the article is implying.
"We want to use that (earlier Cobalt Linux work) as a model for getting Solaris functions and features" INTO Linux, Mehra said. Mehra declined to offer specifics of what changes Sun hoped to make other than improvements to how Linux handles common computing processes known as threads, changes Sun hopes WILL MAKE LINUX WORK BETTER ON HIGH-END SERVERS WITH MANY PROCESSORS"
Also
"Sun this summer will introduce its first general-purpose Linux servers, lower-end machines used for tasks such as delivering Web pages or sharing files"
So while I agree that yes that are trying to make Solaris better, they obviously see a future for linux and are trying to improve and promote it.
Why are you comparing the one recent security bug of Moz with the flood of IE holes?
Someone found a security bug, moz fixed it quickly end of story. This is how open source works. There was no denying by moz developers of the bug and it was fixed, what else do you want?
Why should we jump down their throat?
There is a big difference between this and MS's efforts to deny and then blame eveyone else for their secuity holes. Do you know how many billions of dollars were lost last year because of shoddy MS security? Over 10 billion. Only a few months ago did they announce that they are "serious" about security. Not to mention their attempts to destory linux, the gpl, and the rest of the software industry. Did I mention Handhelds, gaming consoles, and set top boxes. Did I mention they have broken numberous laws and are using a illegal monopoly to squeeze money from the entire planet.
Now Troll, you were saying something about how we should root against Moz and treat MS with respect?
Yea I noticed how snappy the menus are as well. Especially with regards on my windows machine. On this box the imported IE favorities took forever to load. You would mouse over the Imported IE favorites bookmark folder, and it would take forever for the bookmarks to come up.
Also they FINALLY fixed the cut and paste bookmarks bug, which really annoyed me. Good thing I keep a backup or else I would have lost tons of bookmarks trying to cut and paste them.
Overall RC2 works great.
THERE ARE STILL TWO MORE LOTR MOVIES COMING OUT!!!!
so if AOTC sucks....meh whatever I wasn't expecting much anyway.
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Not that I don't like MS or think they broke the law in this and many other cases, but AFAIK that BSD tcp stack thing is a myth.
I can't help but feel that they are too late in the trial to get anything good out this.
The real issue here is not browsers, since removing IE is a just a stupid idea, its forcing MS to disclose its hiddens API's and file formats.
Chopping XP into pieces will only harm the consumer. But for example, if Open Office had access to the complete office file specs we could start to see some real change.
Also how about publishing the AD specs so Samba can be dropped in without any problems.
I really think that if these two steps are implemented, and MS is forced to deal with OEMs in a fair way, we will all be the better for it.
What sucks is, the possibility of this happening doesn't even seem to be on the roadmap.
As an aside I also think the judges and many of the people involved don't even understand the technology which for me is scary. How can you make judgements on something you don't even understand? I know that's a simplistic point of view but seriously, you can't tell me that if the judge was poor and couldn't afford to buy MS Office he wouldn't be pissed that Open Office mangles his word docs because MS is so tightassed about the specs. Having a judge who knows both nix and windows well might produce bias, but at least he would know what he was talking about when he made his ruling. Right now there is a 50/50 chance that because he doesn't understand technology he might rule that "yeah MS not disclosing the API's for security makes sense to me...a lay person".
You seem to forgot about a little thing called 3rd party publishers, who can charge whatever they see fit.
Also the prices for games drop over time. If you wait a year you can buy the games for like $9.99.
Somehow though the prices for my old ass HP inkjet haven't dropped.
Every time I buy a new color refill I am paying more then the unit is worth.
Well with the 1.0 I can do this on my machine. Just for a test, I took a word doc. Opened in OO, saved as a OO file. Then editted that OO file. Then resaved it as Word. Then reopend the file in Word 2k. File stayed the same.
The only difference was I had to hit enter a few times on the import of the orginal word doc to getting the formatting right.
The only problem I have detected are a few very minor spacing issues, which a backspace or enter fixes.
Kudos to redhat and all the production studios who are willing to buck the trend and push linux. Next up are all the T.V. production studios. It make take a while for it to all trickle down to the average desktop user, but rest assured linux has a bright a/v future.
Redhat is probably the most "sever" distro available. They do the most QA and load testing on high end hardware of any linux vendor. "Servers" are Redhat's ONLY market. They target the enterprise server market and that's it. If you are questioning me you need to read their financial data and press releases. I'm not making anything up. The fact that gnome and kde are included is really just a bonus.
RPM is not a bad as people advertise. The thing you have to realize is that people in the linux community talk a lot of smack. Ever since redhat became the leading distro the fringe linux distros have become more and more vocal about their hatred for redhat. That doesn't mean its not a good distro, but it does mean you can expect them to call it a "newbie" distro even though it is not.
Redhat is not meant to be exciting or cutting edge, or the best desktop.
Its meant to be installed as a server and left alone.
Regarding a comparison to debian or slack directly, all I will say is you can use any distro for any task. They all have pluses and minuses.
Personally IMHO one of the big advantages of redhat is the software and hardware vendors are behind it. You can be sure that if and when a vendor decides to support linux, redhat will be first on the list.
So in a nutshell redhat is a corporate centric server distro, which although not as sexy as Gentoo, will server you well and be supported for a long time to come.
I'm not making a value statement here, but its ironic that you should try to take a jab at redhat yet again when suse itself is not free . You can now and always will be able to download free redhat ISO's. Suse on the otherhand will only allow you download an eval or do an ftp install. Until you can buy a Suse iso at cheapbytes or download official iso's I would avoid taking cheap shots like this. This reminds me of a post not long ago when the new Freebsd came out and the poster mentioned several good points about bsd then tried to slip in something about redhat being a "train wreck". He was modded a +5 until the mods came to their senses and dropped him to -1 Troll. Sometimes I think the pissing MS does on Opensource is nothing compared to how much its users piss on each other already.
So does anyone have any hard evidence that Peter Gutmann's method does not work? For example many people use the program Eraser or another which utilizes this method, is this a waste of time?
I agree that this topic has been discussed, but I personally have never seen a story where someone has proved it does or does not work. Eveyone just says physical destruction is the only way...or I've "heard" of overwrite patterns in the 20s not being secure. So any have anything that is not heresay??
http://www.intel.com/support/intelplay/discontinue . tm