As far as repelling random unsolicited traffic is concerned, NAT is the equivalent of a firewall already.
NAT and simple port forwarding for those rare hosted services are all that 99.5% of the population needs. ISPs and businesses are all different. But even probably 80% of the businesses I deal with, NAT with NO port forwarding works just fine.
Of course if you are allowed and able, running a mail server at home is fun.
But get serious, NAT is an effective firewall for most people. Just like the random Chevy is good enough for most people. Saying "but but but it's not a porsche!" all the time just makes you look like an elitist geek.
Most of those things listed above are both illegal (due to privacy rights) and against common law (again due to privacy rights) it all states and communities.
Unless the Great Firewall of China is broken today and you are posting from a facist state... you are entirely WRONG.
There are some restrictions about things you might lease or rent, like a car or snowblower... however a private residence and anyplace you have the reasonable expectation of privacy (again both legally and by common law) they do not apply.
Put a camera in a hotel bathroom. I fucking DARE you.
It says right there in the article summary the site is down and has been a while. That's not advertising.... it's something else... dunno.. maybe NEWS?
Wiping your ass is a conspiracy of the paper-making industry too. It has nothing to do with not smelling like shiat all the time.
Any and all lawyers that work for the RIAA or MPAA are free to take other employment by choice any time they like. No chains are on their ankles, there is no Saddam to burn their families alive if they try to leave. Remember, THEY cash in on this grandpa too.
Sayihg "lawyers suck" is simply a less articulate way of saying "if you work for an immoral company willingly, you are also immoral" akin to perhaps PETA's view of factory farm workers or labratory technicians. Or maybe even some of the christian 'right' folks who blow abortion workers and security workers to smithereens because of what THEY do for women's health.
It's a part of our culture to partially blame the workers for the things the corporations do. After all, the corporations exist as a sum of the workers in the first place.
So, going picking or possibly bankrupting grandpa and grandson for downloading stuff they already own..._downloading_ not distributing will get backlash from the public.
So I give you a resounding FUCK YOU. Lawyers are evil when they participate in this stuff. They can quit or change firms any time. Sooner or later a pack of geeks will gleefully do the same stuff to these lawyers what they do to spammers and there's not a damn thing your misplaced righteousness bullshit can do to stop it.
It seems to me that unless the program actively re-installs itself, or actively resists being uninstalled that it shouldn't be called "spyware".
Search2020 is spyware. Try to uninstall it and it comes back. Uninstall WoW and it's gone.
Yes, WoW anti-cheat anti-bot measures do spy on the computer, but then again, so do anti-virus programs. We don't call THEM spyware do we?
I see all of this is a total non-issue. I freaking LIKE them taking down the cheaters. I LIKE it when PunkBuster punks some cheating jerk.
If you don't like what the housecleaner knows about you, don't hire one! If you don't want Blizzard searching stuff on your computer, don't play! It's not like they installed shit on your computer through a security hole simply because you visited their home page.
They should roll this out in one of those high population density places that have huge high bandwidth penetration.
South Korea gets trotted out as being "advanced" because they have lots of apartment complexes with 10 meg fiber to every apartment.
The US isn't ready for this stuff yet I think. Especially since most of the protocols for MS networking (file shares and such) are dirt slow once you get below the 10 megs of available traffic space. Ever try running a share across a T1 line? It doesn't work to well. So they'll be hacking together some hybred of HTTP or FTP to do all of this.
I for one, simply wouldn't trust any other company to hold our data. The next step is "search your data!" which means there is a database somewhere with the contents that you no longer own and control like Gmail. For personal email like Gmail or Yahoo it's fine. For company strategy, internal prices lists and HR documents, it is NOT fine.
Yeah, I was going to say anybody that thinks cats only make small puncture wounds has never owned one.
Here's an experiment;
- borrow cat - fill tub while cat watches - grab cat - put cat in water
You will note that a) cats can somehow reverse gravity and automatically apply force upward with nothing to work against and b) 6 inches by.5 inch deep wounds are a trivial matter for a cat to produce
This guy (in the article) doesn't know what he's talking about.
It's cool they are using engineering to solve some of these issues instead of stupid speculation though.
I agree it doesn't seem all that great for games, not encompassing a market that is of any size. (Wants a game to do 3d, but doesnt have a card that supports even basic GTA3 quality graphics.)
But, what if the target market was software rendering of 3d stuff for the OS. Like the "3d interface" for the new version of Windows for example. Imagine how valuable having a decent fallback for lower end systems without fancy video cards (i.e. like most big brands) would be to Microsoft?
Windows installs with the 3d interface would just look for a capable card, and failing to find one, use this thing instead.
A 3d desktop doesn't need 65 fps after all, if it looks good static (in comparison to games dynamic display) it might be a pretty good thing....
NAT and port-forwarding requires a little bit of thought from even the most experienced tech. You can forget your Grampa Pamade and Granny Goldbond scenario there...
Agreed.
THEREFORE, it's not relevant if the "firewall" is a NAT Linksys or a stateful firewall... for those old folks the NAT box IS a firewall.
Which leads back to my original point; yapping about "stateful firewall is better" in the context of most users is useless as it's a point in search of an argument.
Care to explain how a statefull firewall makes one piss of difference to Grampa Pamade and Granny Goldbond over NAT? Either of those two needs to configure a proxy server to cache and control web sites accessed?
For a business or school, or advanced home networker sure... (Heck, I have never worked for a buisness that did anything beyond simple DMZ with their PIX, blocking outgoing traffic just isn't done.)
But the ordinary Linksys is a good enough hardware fireall via NAT for the average user.
So gimmie a break will ya? Start on a new pointless geek-detail. That one is old and tired.
Perhaps change the wording to protect those practicing journalism, rather than journalists.
That way, the event say... going public with evidence that the Secratary of State committed treason maybe... is reported in a blog is an ACT of journalism no matter who the person is.
So an ordinary person would get the protection if they were publishing stuff on a web site, but wouldn't if they were sharing information among friends at a party and a cop happened to hear it.
Otherwise, the definition of a journalist is going to be too hard to figure out, but the ACT of journalism is something that can be defined by a list and a discriptive paragraph for each item on the list.
Not gravitational waves that I know of, though they could pull energy from the system.
Tidal forces.
The tidal forces of the things moving around in orbit sucks energy out of the orbits (specifically, the inertia and friction overcome when the star changes shape is removed from the orbital energy).
Eventually over a long time, objects fall inwards due to this effect. (Earth is doing it too, as the Moon will eventually crash into the Earth... both if nothing else happens first. The energy gets dissapated as heat.)
It's counter intuitive, but the equations work out that way and there is observational evidence to support the theory.
I just listen closely to my inner-ape and it has a pretty good track record of making the morally good decisions. (Aside from urges of vigalantism and revenge that is.) Human societies had a wide variety of culture that is built on lower-level operating societal instinct. You just gotta get back to the "roots" of the matter and religion becomes a wasteful corruption.
It's too bad the hairy bits show through a little too much.:)
Yeah, well I have never voted for any Republicans, so that's not an issue.:)
I do however, have an uber-geek like fetish for tools, knives, kits, zip ties, office supplies, etc. It's a daily struggle not to spend all my disposable income on that stuff. Fortunately, I am too much of a tightwad to give in to the urges.
Though, I am sorta expecting (hoping) that issues will be temporary. And if they're not, then expect most people to be outright dead after a few months so would need to have skills and tools so I don't have to take them from others. (which would be evil)
- don't bother with finding mushrooms, they have nearly zero caloric and nutritional value. Plus, a mistake can kill you or your liver.
- if you have room/storage, distilled liquor. Used for drinking, sanitizing, bartering and "giving it up" to the thugs. Just rotate through stock to keep it tasting nice.
- hard tack and dried meat (jerky) for food. Hard tack you can make in an hour in your kitchen, it's basically cooked flour. It doesn't taste TOO bad but stores for up to a year in dry conditions in your kitchen. Nuts go bad in a hurry as the oils in them go rancid. Worry about calories first, nutition after a week or two. At that point, you need to start eating the local wildlife or move locations (on foot if necessary). Dried fruit is a good thing to have. A deyhdrator can allow you to make the stuff your self more cheaply and is sorta fun.
- A big sheet of plastic (clear) to make a solar still. (Doesn't clean out volitiles or intense contamination, but can get you fresh water from wet sand or mud.) Pack your plastic in a container to use to catch the water.
- why limit to one tool / knife? I carry multi-tool, folding pocket knife (lockback!), a combat knife that can attach to a stick for a spear-like weapon. Usually a couple more. Add skinning zip or other specialized ones. Get a tool to sharpen all of these too. A knife is your key to getting started making naturally occuring specialized tools. Otherwise, it's knapping or pounding your own first, then you get the rest.
Asside from all the preparation though. The proper attitude is most important. The government is not always your friend and may consider you a threat (just ask the folks on the bridge in NO). Your safety is your responsabilty. Keep yourself informed, be ready to act.
..... which is a literary tool used to set people up to do horrible violence at the will of their christian leaders. "Look, Abraham almost killed his kid, was GOING TO kill his kid, you as a christian should be willing to wire up this here pipe bomb."
Though I personally use PDF documents to signify implicitly that it's a "finished" document that may be printed and put in a file somewere as the official word on something.
Plus, you are assuming the recipient of the doucment is using one of Adobe's overpriced and crappy products to edit something, when the reality is most of them have Office97 or Office2000 and couldn't edit a PDF to save their lives.
In that situation, PDF is a good way to send documents you want read, not editied.
(Plus, I do not trust MS products to not embed stuff like undo, strikeout and all that stuff they office monkeys seem to like using. PDF format allows me to think there is not that stuff left behind.)
There are lots of free converters to "print to PDF" out there if you want one.
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So it is a trifecta of tripe.
Unless I am confusing my web sites, this is the _third_ time this has been on /.
So if two is a dupe...
A third is a... tripe?
As far as repelling random unsolicited traffic is concerned, NAT is the equivalent of a firewall already.
NAT and simple port forwarding for those rare hosted services are all that 99.5% of the population needs. ISPs and businesses are all different. But even probably 80% of the businesses I deal with, NAT with NO port forwarding works just fine.
Of course if you are allowed and able, running a mail server at home is fun.
But get serious, NAT is an effective firewall for most people. Just like the random Chevy is good enough for most people. Saying "but but but it's not a porsche!" all the time just makes you look like an elitist geek.
WTF you talkin bout?
Most of those things listed above are both illegal (due to privacy rights) and against common law (again due to privacy rights) it all states and communities.
Unless the Great Firewall of China is broken today and you are posting from a facist state... you are entirely WRONG.
There are some restrictions about things you might lease or rent, like a car or snowblower... however a private residence and anyplace you have the reasonable expectation of privacy (again both legally and by common law) they do not apply.
Put a camera in a hotel bathroom. I fucking DARE you.
Welcome to the sex-offender list! Whoohoo!
I, for one, welcome our new Mecha Shan overlords.
Did you click on the link retard?
It says right there in the article summary the site is down and has been a while. That's not advertising.... it's something else... dunno.. maybe NEWS?
Wiping your ass is a conspiracy of the paper-making industry too. It has nothing to do with not smelling like shiat all the time.
$2 at Wally-World. Automotive section, near where they sell the plastic cupholder extensions and ice scrapers.
Weather resistant too, as they are supposed to go on the outside of a car or truck.
Any and all lawyers that work for the RIAA or MPAA are free to take other employment by choice any time they like. No chains are on their ankles, there is no Saddam to burn their families alive if they try to leave. Remember, THEY cash in on this grandpa too.
Sayihg "lawyers suck" is simply a less articulate way of saying "if you work for an immoral company willingly, you are also immoral" akin to perhaps PETA's view of factory farm workers or labratory technicians. Or maybe even some of the christian 'right' folks who blow abortion workers and security workers to smithereens because of what THEY do for women's health.
It's a part of our culture to partially blame the workers for the things the corporations do. After all, the corporations exist as a sum of the workers in the first place.
So, going picking or possibly bankrupting grandpa and grandson for downloading stuff they already own..._downloading_ not distributing will get backlash from the public.
So I give you a resounding FUCK YOU. Lawyers are evil when they participate in this stuff. They can quit or change firms any time. Sooner or later a pack of geeks will gleefully do the same stuff to these lawyers what they do to spammers and there's not a damn thing your misplaced righteousness bullshit can do to stop it.
It seems to me that unless the program actively re-installs itself, or actively resists being uninstalled that it shouldn't be called "spyware".
Search2020 is spyware. Try to uninstall it and it comes back. Uninstall WoW and it's gone.
Yes, WoW anti-cheat anti-bot measures do spy on the computer, but then again, so do anti-virus programs. We don't call THEM spyware do we?
I see all of this is a total non-issue. I freaking LIKE them taking down the cheaters. I LIKE it when PunkBuster punks some cheating jerk.
If you don't like what the housecleaner knows about you, don't hire one! If you don't want Blizzard searching stuff on your computer, don't play! It's not like they installed shit on your computer through a security hole simply because you visited their home page.
They should roll this out in one of those high population density places that have huge high bandwidth penetration.
South Korea gets trotted out as being "advanced" because they have lots of apartment complexes with 10 meg fiber to every apartment.
The US isn't ready for this stuff yet I think. Especially since most of the protocols for MS networking (file shares and such) are dirt slow once you get below the 10 megs of available traffic space. Ever try running a share across a T1 line? It doesn't work to well. So they'll be hacking together some hybred of HTTP or FTP to do all of this.
I for one, simply wouldn't trust any other company to hold our data. The next step is "search your data!" which means there is a database somewhere with the contents that you no longer own and control like Gmail. For personal email like Gmail or Yahoo it's fine. For company strategy, internal prices lists and HR documents, it is NOT fine.
Yeah, I was going to say anybody that thinks cats only make small puncture wounds has never owned one.
.5 inch deep wounds are a trivial matter for a cat to produce
Here's an experiment;
- borrow cat
- fill tub while cat watches
- grab cat
- put cat in water
You will note that a) cats can somehow reverse gravity and automatically apply force upward with nothing to work against and b) 6 inches by
This guy (in the article) doesn't know what he's talking about.
It's cool they are using engineering to solve some of these issues instead of stupid speculation though.
?
In WI we call it "flopping". As in the routes are flopping between a valid and invalid state.
"Flapping" is too close to "Fapping", which one only does when the porn sites are still available.
I agree it doesn't seem all that great for games, not encompassing a market that is of any size. (Wants a game to do 3d, but doesnt have a card that supports even basic GTA3 quality graphics.)
But, what if the target market was software rendering of 3d stuff for the OS. Like the "3d interface" for the new version of Windows for example. Imagine how valuable having a decent fallback for lower end systems without fancy video cards (i.e. like most big brands) would be to Microsoft?
Windows installs with the 3d interface would just look for a capable card, and failing to find one, use this thing instead.
A 3d desktop doesn't need 65 fps after all, if it looks good static (in comparison to games dynamic display) it might be a pretty good thing....
NAT and port-forwarding requires a little bit of thought from even the most experienced tech. You can forget your Grampa Pamade and Granny Goldbond scenario there...
Agreed.
THEREFORE, it's not relevant if the "firewall" is a NAT Linksys or a stateful firewall... for those old folks the NAT box IS a firewall.
Which leads back to my original point; yapping about "stateful firewall is better" in the context of most users is useless as it's a point in search of an argument.
Care to explain how a statefull firewall makes one piss of difference to Grampa Pamade and Granny Goldbond over NAT? Either of those two needs to configure a proxy server to cache and control web sites accessed?
For a business or school, or advanced home networker sure... (Heck, I have never worked for a buisness that did anything beyond simple DMZ with their PIX, blocking outgoing traffic just isn't done.)
But the ordinary Linksys is a good enough hardware fireall via NAT for the average user.
So gimmie a break will ya? Start on a new pointless geek-detail. That one is old and tired.
Perhaps change the wording to protect those practicing journalism, rather than journalists.
That way, the event say... going public with evidence that the Secratary of State committed treason maybe... is reported in a blog is an ACT of journalism no matter who the person is.
So an ordinary person would get the protection if they were publishing stuff on a web site, but wouldn't if they were sharing information among friends at a party and a cop happened to hear it.
Otherwise, the definition of a journalist is going to be too hard to figure out, but the ACT of journalism is something that can be defined by a list and a discriptive paragraph for each item on the list.
Here is an information site with some additional (but dry) information;
root-servers.org
Not gravitational waves that I know of, though they could pull energy from the system.
Tidal forces.
The tidal forces of the things moving around in orbit sucks energy out of the orbits (specifically, the inertia and friction overcome when the star changes shape is removed from the orbital energy).
Eventually over a long time, objects fall inwards due to this effect. (Earth is doing it too, as the Moon will eventually crash into the Earth... both if nothing else happens first. The energy gets dissapated as heat.)
It's counter intuitive, but the equations work out that way and there is observational evidence to support the theory.
I have been kicking around the fringes of the high-speed data stuff for a number of years, and there's one true lesson to be learned;
Telcos suck.
ALL of them do in their own special way.
I don't need a logical reason to be good.
:)
Don't even need to justify it.
I just listen closely to my inner-ape and it has a pretty good track record of making the morally good decisions. (Aside from urges of vigalantism and revenge that is.) Human societies had a wide variety of culture that is built on lower-level operating societal instinct. You just gotta get back to the "roots" of the matter and religion becomes a wasteful corruption.
It's too bad the hairy bits show through a little too much.
Yeah, well I have never voted for any Republicans, so that's not an issue. :)
I do however, have an uber-geek like fetish for tools, knives, kits, zip ties, office supplies, etc. It's a daily struggle not to spend all my disposable income on that stuff. Fortunately, I am too much of a tightwad to give in to the urges.
Though, I am sorta expecting (hoping) that issues will be temporary. And if they're not, then expect most people to be outright dead after a few months so would need to have skills and tools so I don't have to take them from others. (which would be evil)
In no particular order;
- don't bother with finding mushrooms, they have nearly zero caloric and nutritional value. Plus, a mistake can kill you or your liver.
- if you have room/storage, distilled liquor. Used for drinking, sanitizing, bartering and "giving it up" to the thugs. Just rotate through stock to keep it tasting nice.
- hard tack and dried meat (jerky) for food. Hard tack you can make in an hour in your kitchen, it's basically cooked flour. It doesn't taste TOO bad but stores for up to a year in dry conditions in your kitchen. Nuts go bad in a hurry as the oils in them go rancid. Worry about calories first, nutition after a week or two. At that point, you need to start eating the local wildlife or move locations (on foot if necessary). Dried fruit is a good thing to have. A deyhdrator can allow you to make the stuff your self more cheaply and is sorta fun.
- A big sheet of plastic (clear) to make a solar still. (Doesn't clean out volitiles or intense contamination, but can get you fresh water from wet sand or mud.) Pack your plastic in a container to use to catch the water.
- why limit to one tool / knife? I carry multi-tool, folding pocket knife (lockback!), a combat knife that can attach to a stick for a spear-like weapon. Usually a couple more. Add skinning zip or other specialized ones. Get a tool to sharpen all of these too. A knife is your key to getting started making naturally occuring specialized tools. Otherwise, it's knapping or pounding your own first, then you get the rest.
- hatchet. Shelter, weapon, tool, fire, escape, entry.
Asside from all the preparation though. The proper attitude is most important. The government is not always your friend and may consider you a threat (just ask the folks on the bridge in NO). Your safety is your responsabilty. Keep yourself informed, be ready to act.
..... which is a literary tool used to set people up to do horrible violence at the will of their christian leaders. "Look, Abraham almost killed his kid, was GOING TO kill his kid, you as a christian should be willing to wire up this here pipe bomb."
It's all in the interpretation isn't it?
There are free (as in adware) PDF printer drivers for Windows as well. Or for $10 you can remove the ads.
But yeah, this is only new for the mouth-breathers that get site licenses for Office the day it comes out.
Very true.
Though I personally use PDF documents to signify implicitly that it's a "finished" document that may be printed and put in a file somewere as the official word on something.
Plus, you are assuming the recipient of the doucment is using one of Adobe's overpriced and crappy products to edit something, when the reality is most of them have Office97 or Office2000 and couldn't edit a PDF to save their lives.
In that situation, PDF is a good way to send documents you want read, not editied.
(Plus, I do not trust MS products to not embed stuff like undo, strikeout and all that stuff they office monkeys seem to like using. PDF format allows me to think there is not that stuff left behind.)
There are lots of free converters to "print to PDF" out there if you want one.