Like I said, hit google and look for T-610 firmware. There are carrier specific versions. People who use Orange and Vodaphone have different firmware than US TMobile. That's a fact. TMO has a very strong influence over what firmware gets on their branded handsets. Ask anyone who works for Sony Ericsson. I know this is fact, because A) I've sought new firmware and had many doors slammed in my face. B) At JavaOne, I had a lengthy discussion with a couple engineers from SE who explained the situation to me. Bottom line: Carriers dictate firmware features, and even have branded firmwares.
"Apparently Verizon Wireless has put firmware with crippled Bluetooth features in the new Motorola v710 phone"
I don't see where it says Verizon "Developed" the firmware.
Case in point. I have a SE T610. TMobile sells it with a carrier specific firmware that doesn't have the same feature set as some European carriers provide (Orange, Vodaphone, etc).
So, essentially, TMO is putting crippled firmware on the T610 as well. No?
With Oracle now running on OS X, and the fact that masses of Enterprise Application vendors use Java, that argument is dwindling away--as any enterprise app written using J2EE will run on OS X just fine.
Earlier, I like how you took the discussion and turned it into a personal attack--that's always classy.
Now, in your original post, you said: "Someone with an MCSE and who passes a technical test in an interview is arguably more use than someone with no industy (sic) experience but with a university qualification."
You did not say: "Someone with an MCSE, who passes a technical test in an interview,and has industry experience is arguably more use than someone with no industry experience but with a university qualification."
You can attack my reading comprehension all you want, but it doesn't change what you actually wrote--which I comprehend just fine.
1) Bullbutter == bullshit (I think you knew that one already.)
2) You said: "Someone with an MCSE and who passes a technical test in an interview is arguably more use than someone with no industy (sic) experience but with a university qualification.
The implication is that an MCSE offers some sort of Industry Experience above and beyond what a BS in CS from a University gets you--and that's just plain bullshit
You are now claiming an MCSE == Industry Experience. It doesn't.
If you take two people, neither one having worked before. One has an MCSE and the other has a BS in CS from an accredited University. Who gets the job?
It really depends. If the company is looking for someone to reboot, defrag, re-image, then I'm sure the MCSE might have a chance.
Anything less trivial than that, and it's no contest.
In Soviet Russia, Spyware acquires YOU!!!
No no no....
In Soviet Russia, the Pod flashes YOU!!!
Now, that brings back memories:Anyway...what's with all the political replies?
Ok, where's my royalty check?
Jeesh!
IT WAS A JOKE!!!
You guys take things waaaay too seriously.
I mean...c'mon....a javac:// handler???
Yeah, if everyone would just use Java and Swing, the UI would be the SAME EVERYWHERE!!!!
then we could add a javadoc:// handler and a jar:// handler and even a javac:// handler and......
Uh, what was the question again?
In Soviet Russia, the web browses YOU!!!
No, you're thinking of Aspect Oriented Programming.
In Soviet Russia, the government questions YOU!!!
I code java all day long on a 5 year old Apple Powerbook with a 500 MHz G3 and 640 MB of ram.
Please come out from under your rock.
Java Controlled Inverted Pendulum (seek to 22 minutes into the presentation)
No, that's not always the case.
Like I said, hit google and look for T-610 firmware. There are carrier specific versions. People who use Orange and Vodaphone have different firmware than US TMobile. That's a fact. TMO has a very strong influence over what firmware gets on their branded handsets. Ask anyone who works for Sony Ericsson. I know this is fact, because A) I've sought new firmware and had many doors slammed in my face. B) At JavaOne, I had a lengthy discussion with a couple engineers from SE who explained the situation to me. Bottom line: Carriers dictate firmware features, and even have branded firmwares.
"Apparently Verizon Wireless has put firmware with crippled Bluetooth features in the new Motorola v710 phone"
I don't see where it says Verizon "Developed" the firmware.
Case in point. I have a SE T610. TMobile sells it with a carrier specific firmware that doesn't have the same feature set as some European carriers provide (Orange, Vodaphone, etc).
So, essentially, TMO is putting crippled firmware on the T610 as well. No?
Uh, carriers dictate to manufacturers all kinds of firmware related things....don't kid yourself.
There's far more advanced and sanitary ways of cleaning your butt.
What do you use, a corncobb?
Paper? What is this thing you call paper?
It was in response to "Apple" having battery problems.
Well, when people act like it's some big god damned problem, what do you expect.
Shit happens. BFD. Why it's even a Slashdot news item is pretty laughable. I mean, who the f--cares?
And Dell never has battery problems
Nope:
echo "Longhorn" | openssl md5
544e109434f5f0bf64ff79dcf8666605
By the way, what's "Longhorn" ?
With Oracle now running on OS X, and the fact that masses of Enterprise Application vendors use Java, that argument is dwindling away--as any enterprise app written using J2EE will run on OS X just fine.
NO GOD DAMMIT--WE CAN'T DROP IT.
;-)
I LOVE ARGUING OVER THE INTERNET!
It's my passion. It fuels my existence.
Sorry, bad morning. Not enough coffee yet.
Nothing to see here folks...move along.
Earlier, I like how you took the discussion and turned it into a personal attack--that's always classy.
Now, in your original post, you said:
"Someone with an MCSE and who passes a technical test in an interview is arguably more use than someone with no industy (sic) experience but with a university qualification."
You did not say:
"Someone with an MCSE, who passes a technical test in an interview,and has industry experience is arguably more use than someone with no industry experience but with a university qualification."
You can attack my reading comprehension all you want, but it doesn't change what you actually wrote--which I comprehend just fine.
1) Bullbutter == bullshit (I think you knew that one already.)
2) You said:
"Someone with an MCSE and who passes a technical test in an interview is arguably more use than someone with no industy (sic) experience but with a university qualification.
The implication is that an MCSE offers some sort of Industry Experience above and beyond what a BS in CS from a University gets you--and that's just plain bullshit
Bullbutter.
You are now claiming an MCSE == Industry Experience.
It doesn't.
If you take two people, neither one having worked before.
One has an MCSE and the other has a BS in CS from an accredited University.
Who gets the job?
It really depends. If the company is looking for someone to reboot, defrag, re-image, then I'm sure the MCSE might have a chance.
Anything less trivial than that, and it's no contest.
Maybe we should ask the Governator what he has to say about it.