OTOH, by the time they've gone through the search and interview process, and have finally settled on you as the one they want, it's probably not worth the trouble to refuse giving in on a few clauses or sections.
Just be sure to get a Xerox of the contract, signed by both parties.
A different sound for each port? Why not just a speak-and-spell-style (or even concatenated prerecorded digits) voice synth that reads off the port number?
What's in it for "content producers" like me, he asks. Same thing his "content" provides for the rest of us: Absolutely nothing. It's a way for those of us making independent films and the like to distribute our work without having Hollywood take advantage of it.
There's also the fact that by setting the "free" precedent, there's a whole lot greater chance that there'll be a B-roll of New York landmarks there when YOU need it.
It's the movie-theatre problem. By the time you're hooked from "They couldn't have." to "Oh, no, you d'int!", the money (or the hit-count) is already safely socked away.
Then again, if bands like this aren't going for "megastar", there's probably more chance of "success", maybe even making a living, from smaller labels or even self-distribution.
Hmm... I *am* out of the loop. Yeah, I'm still playing with the old ones, and I guess I just write up too much of the backstory myself to know what's going on in the official game.
I've got to agree, the politics in the old V:TM were always a bit... underdeveloped. Granted, that never really stopped me (or anyone else with a problem with it). I just wrote in political factions, or generally just redivided the Traditions as I needed.
Hmm... I think we might be arguing the same side of the issue. My thesis was "Although it may not work to simply write a book (the status quo) and put it online for free, putting a book online may be a booster when you also supplement it with other buzz-builders, such as building a rapport and community around yourself."
I know I'm probably a bit out of the loop (I play 'em more than I follow 'em, and I hardly play 'em much at all any more), but what was this "mangling" you speak of?
I actually think that is fair, if people are using White Wolf IP to make a profit, White Wolf deserves the right to ask for a cut. Whether they will make some cash or not is a different question.
They got their profit. People buy the books... the product they chose to produce and sell... in order to run the game. They got what is rightfully theirs.
If White Wolf wants to profit from running games, they have the full right to go ahead and start running their own games. They choose to profit from selling books, and that's what profit they get and should be happy with.
Should Igloo get a buck for every cold can of soda I might sell out of one of their coolers? Should Mack get mileage payments from people who haul with their trucks? Should Gateway or Dell get residuals from the graphics I create on my computer? Craftsman get royalties from repair shops? White Wolf *sells* *tools*. By paying for that tool at the asking price of the seller, I am buying the right to use that tool for whatever uses I may need it for.
Am I just the only one here who never LARPed with all the costume and rigamarole? The LARP I attended was basically just RPGing with on-spot interaction and LARP rules. There were a few people who attempted to get all costumed, but... well... they were mostly the creepy/ridiculous exceptions. The rest of us just came in off the street in what clothes we had on us... perhaps a bit of attention paid to the outfit, it being a somewhat social event, but aside from that, there was little push to dress in-character.
I think it stemmed from the fact that the group I was with was founded and composed for the most part by tabletop gamers, who had played from D&D on up. LARP wasn't some great theatrical affair-- it was just a different way of playing.
I'd have to wonder if that scheme would even be legally defensible, considering that (or "if", rather... I haven't seen the new edition) this isn't mentioned in the book.
(Analogy-mobile... away!)
It's like charging teachers above-and-beyond the price of a textbook for... actually using the textbook. There might be some sort of leverage along the lines that players are creating a derivative work, but (go, analogymobile, go!) really, that's like "How to make a birdhouse" trying to charge you license fees for making the birdhouse.
Of course, it all comes down to that most fundamental of legal principles: is White Wolf big enough to both execute and withstand the fallout from a steamroller lawsuit against its customers. Well, do you feel lucky... punk?
It's a shame that the developers of one of the better games out there (in my rather-uninformed opinion) had to have such money-grubbing bastards (or, I might also accept "egotistical micromanaging bastards" depending on their true motive) at the helm.
So, is the Fifth Edition going to come with a EULA?
I really wouldn't hold your breath (although it doesn't look like you are). For most people, that 5% quality loss is worth the portability and cost savings of something like MP3, and to the retailer, it's worth the lesser storage and bandwidth.
I, for one, am a happy consumer of MP3-format music. As long as I can, you know, rock out or whatever, I'm fine with it.
I see far too much of this idea of "No fair! Widespread success takes more than just making the status quo!" Yeah, it's the Internet and the "new economy". That means that you do have to get found in the gigantic drone of crap that's already out there. That's the disadvantage. The advantage is that if you have the ability, it's a whole lot easier from there on out.
I would have to say that the free-book giveaway has probably greatly helped his success. As for the Joe Schmoes, well, your Internet's right there! Gather an audience! Stop being a Joe Schmoe and attain success! It's not like blog fame really requires much beyond eloquence, intelligence, and some webspace.
Because the word "boxes" exists, is adequate to the task, and is an already-recognized and accepted English word. "Boxen" adds nothing beyond the existing word, is not a generally accepted spelling, and, really, sounds kind of weak, like you're trying too hard.
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OTOH, even though I could fix it, it's still wrong.
OTOH, by the time they've gone through the search and interview process, and have finally settled on you as the one they want, it's probably not worth the trouble to refuse giving in on a few clauses or sections.
Just be sure to get a Xerox of the contract, signed by both parties.
Of course... the "recite media" command with the "random file" flag.
A different sound for each port? Why not just a speak-and-spell-style (or even concatenated prerecorded digits) voice synth that reads off the port number?
What's in it for "content producers" like me, he asks. Same thing his "content" provides for the rest of us: Absolutely nothing. It's a way for those of us making independent films and the like to distribute our work without having Hollywood take advantage of it.
There's also the fact that by setting the "free" precedent, there's a whole lot greater chance that there'll be a B-roll of New York landmarks there when YOU need it.
It's the movie-theatre problem. By the time you're hooked from "They couldn't have." to "Oh, no, you d'int!", the money (or the hit-count) is already safely socked away.
Feed a still shot of the Virgin Mary to it, and wait for it to burn in. Some online casino or another will take it off your hands.
(How long does it take to burn in an image? Anyone?)
Damn trolls.
How is clicking on the "Upgrade" button not authorization? How is a change in the program that the user authorized "causing damage"?
Then again, if bands like this aren't going for "megastar", there's probably more chance of "success", maybe even making a living, from smaller labels or even self-distribution.
Hmm... I *am* out of the loop. Yeah, I'm still playing with the old ones, and I guess I just write up too much of the backstory myself to know what's going on in the official game.
I've got to agree, the politics in the old V:TM were always a bit... underdeveloped. Granted, that never really stopped me (or anyone else with a problem with it). I just wrote in political factions, or generally just redivided the Traditions as I needed.
And now: How many lives did Clinton's blowjob cost?
Cue Python, "Sperm Song".
Metagamer.
Maybe I'm out of the cliche-loop... I get "pepperoni pizza" and "microwave Twinkies", but why a meatball?
Or the vast seas of lard connected to the keyboards.
Hmm... I think we might be arguing the same side of the issue. My thesis was "Although it may not work to simply write a book (the status quo) and put it online for free, putting a book online may be a booster when you also supplement it with other buzz-builders, such as building a rapport and community around yourself."
Ahh... yeah, that one flew right past me. All that "millenial" stuff, right?
I know I'm probably a bit out of the loop (I play 'em more than I follow 'em, and I hardly play 'em much at all any more), but what was this "mangling" you speak of?
I actually think that is fair, if people are using White Wolf IP to make a profit, White Wolf deserves the right to ask for a cut. Whether they will make some cash or not is a different question.
They got their profit. People buy the books... the product they chose to produce and sell... in order to run the game. They got what is rightfully theirs.
If White Wolf wants to profit from running games, they have the full right to go ahead and start running their own games. They choose to profit from selling books, and that's what profit they get and should be happy with.
Should Igloo get a buck for every cold can of soda I might sell out of one of their coolers? Should Mack get mileage payments from people who haul with their trucks? Should Gateway or Dell get residuals from the graphics I create on my computer? Craftsman get royalties from repair shops? White Wolf *sells* *tools*. By paying for that tool at the asking price of the seller, I am buying the right to use that tool for whatever uses I may need it for.
Am I just the only one here who never LARPed with all the costume and rigamarole? The LARP I attended was basically just RPGing with on-spot interaction and LARP rules. There were a few people who attempted to get all costumed, but... well... they were mostly the creepy/ridiculous exceptions. The rest of us just came in off the street in what clothes we had on us... perhaps a bit of attention paid to the outfit, it being a somewhat social event, but aside from that, there was little push to dress in-character.
I think it stemmed from the fact that the group I was with was founded and composed for the most part by tabletop gamers, who had played from D&D on up. LARP wasn't some great theatrical affair-- it was just a different way of playing.
I'd have to wonder if that scheme would even be legally defensible, considering that (or "if", rather... I haven't seen the new edition) this isn't mentioned in the book.
(Analogy-mobile... away!)
It's like charging teachers above-and-beyond the price of a textbook for... actually using the textbook. There might be some sort of leverage along the lines that players are creating a derivative work, but (go, analogymobile, go!) really, that's like "How to make a birdhouse" trying to charge you license fees for making the birdhouse.
Of course, it all comes down to that most fundamental of legal principles: is White Wolf big enough to both execute and withstand the fallout from a steamroller lawsuit against its customers. Well, do you feel lucky... punk?
It's a shame that the developers of one of the better games out there (in my rather-uninformed opinion) had to have such money-grubbing bastards (or, I might also accept "egotistical micromanaging bastards" depending on their true motive) at the helm.
So, is the Fifth Edition going to come with a EULA?
I really wouldn't hold your breath (although it doesn't look like you are). For most people, that 5% quality loss is worth the portability and cost savings of something like MP3, and to the retailer, it's worth the lesser storage and bandwidth.
I, for one, am a happy consumer of MP3-format music. As long as I can, you know, rock out or whatever, I'm fine with it.
I see far too much of this idea of "No fair! Widespread success takes more than just making the status quo!" Yeah, it's the Internet and the "new economy". That means that you do have to get found in the gigantic drone of crap that's already out there. That's the disadvantage. The advantage is that if you have the ability, it's a whole lot easier from there on out.
I would have to say that the free-book giveaway has probably greatly helped his success. As for the Joe Schmoes, well, your Internet's right there! Gather an audience! Stop being a Joe Schmoe and attain success! It's not like blog fame really requires much beyond eloquence, intelligence, and some webspace.
Against idiots?
Because the word "boxes" exists, is adequate to the task, and is an already-recognized and accepted English word. "Boxen" adds nothing beyond the existing word, is not a generally accepted spelling, and, really, sounds kind of weak, like you're trying too hard.