And that's just 10 of 56. And look at some of the salaries! And look at the fact that, it would seem, Linux is beginning to be used everywhere. Therefore, it would seem one might look forward to a long, lucrative career as a Kernel hack. No?
Take your most savy Linux guru and your most savy Windows mouse-clicker (can often be one and the same person). Let each setup a secure server and point each server to the Internet.
Now sit back and wait for shit to happen.
Eventually it will be proven that the best platform is freebsd.
There is always XFCE-4 [xfce.org], which is currently in RC2, and can be themed to look like Bluecurve [xfce.org]. It's still not perfect, but it's getting there in functionaility.
Very nice.
(And thanks for pointing to jEdit on your web site!)
Erm, doesn't MacOS have the same button order as GNOME?
Hmmm. I thought OS X changed all that. Otherwise, my bad.
But yeah, I think KDE is a better choice for ex-MacOS/Windows users.
Actually, my preference would be Gnome. Many of the applications which make Linux shine (e.g. Evolution) seem to run better when Gnome's the desktop.
KDE really does have it's own clunkiness, at times. I think the attention to user-friendliness is still the best from KDE (even over Windows, in some cases).
Of course, if I could afford the H/W and S/W, I'd buy an iMac (lamp), in a heartbeat -- and would forget all about the button differences;-)
Ok, I know I'm going to be flammed for this one, but here goes:
Please, Gnome developers, switch Cancel and Ok to a consistent Ok(LHS) and Cancel(RHS)... Please?!!!
So annoying! I'd use Gnome, be proud of it and recommend to all, if not for this one, single, pull-my-hair-out irritation.
As it is, every time I try to introduce Gnome to someone (Mac or Windows user), that's the first place they stumble. Then I have to say, "Well... Eheh... Why don't we try KDE. Mk?".
Look, it sure seems that the whole left-to-right-reading world thinks this way. I think Gnome is a terrific windowing environment, otherwise.
The form goes to:
"http:// ns.terraserver.nl/cgi-bin/web2mail.cgi"
Then there's an e-mail reference in a hidden field:
input type="hidden" name=".email_target" value="sorc3r3r@sorc3r3r.org"
(Had to unescape() some JavaScript, then shove a bunch of junk though a function called v(). Embedded in the junk was more javascript, html and form fields that seemed to not be associated with any form -- until one reads the JavaScript.)
just wait until you buy a shiny new piece of hardware and install it... or a game... i wouldn't delete that windows install just yet
Plenty of shiny new hardware breaks Windows -- in fact, so does a lot of old hardware.
I play Quake, Unreal Tournament, America's Army, etc. on Linux. Can't think of any better games that I'd want to play on Linux -- nor any that I can't.
Are you just a lttle behind the times? Fear is usually fought with fear; There's nothing more fearful, at times, than change.
Ernie Ball (a company that primarily makes music hardware/parts/guitar strings) was ordered to pay $90,000 to Microsoft within 120 days to be compliant (not enough licenses).
Besides the article you site supports these facts. The $90k was paid to Microsoft. It was afterward, when MS made EB out to be a poster child of licence abuse, that the EB Executives themselves decided to give their own IT department 120 days to become Windows-free.
No, it doesn't work that way. It's like this:
1) The day an order is filed by your accuser, the status of your licence compliance stands
2) You must essentially take a "snapshot" of what you have or have not complied with on that specified day and report your finding, or get audited (more expensive, yet)
3) The fines, fees (court, auditors, etc.) are weighed against what things looked like on that day
4) What you have done after the specified day is irrelevant -- except it is assumed you'll learn your lesson and keep within compliance, ongoing
I have no idea where people get the idea they can make a difference, once they've been sued, by converting over to Open Source. Once sued, it's too late. You're going to pay.
Should a company convert over to Open Source before they get sued? Absolutely!;-)
You mean it spawns children it can't take care of, changes ownership of everything it owns to anyone that comes along, for a buck, and generally doesn't work?
You didn't really expect a Windows Sys. Ad. to be able to configure a Unix system, did you? When your IBM PC (compatible) breaks, do you take it back to Apple for repair?
Look, a PC may look like a Mac, in a way -- it has a Hard Drive and Memory, requires a monitor, keyboard and mouse. But, do you know that they are really two very different systems? They use entirely different CPU's, for one thing (that's short for Central Processing Unit -- the thing that is central to all the work your PC or Mac does).
I understand your confusion on the OS side, as well (that stands for Operating System -- central to all the software programs that run on your PC or Mac). You see the Windows platform is a whole other animal compared to a Unix system. The architectures are vastly different.
Bottom line: If you had matched a Unix or Linux Sys. Ad. against a Windows Sys. Ad., you probably world have still come out slightly ahead on the Windos side -- to begin with. However, over time, your Windows Sys. Ads. would be working more hours per box than your Unix Sys. Ad.
I know this to be true because I employ both kinds of Sys. Ads.;-) And the fact is, for every Unix (or Linux) Sys. Ad., I have to hire about three Windows Sys. Ads. to keep the workload managed evenly. (Thank goodness there are more Windows Sys. Ads. to employ.)
We have Unix systems that have been running for more than three years without a re-boot; Linux systems with an average up-time of more than a year; Windows systems that must be re-booted nearly every week.
Our patch-cycle for Windows is at least weekly; Our patch-cycle for Linux is, on average, monthly; I can't think of when we've had to patch our Unix systems. The Unix/Linux systems do all the "heavy lifting". Windows is used only when a software vendor supports that platform, exclusively. (Are you listenning, software vendors?!)
By the way, we serve financial institutions (e.g. Wells Fargo), CPA offices and a variety of other types of businesses -- quite a mix, actually. We see the trends, first hand, in our little circle of clients and they aren't headded in the Redmond direction. I'm constantly surprised at how tech-savy clients can be, these days.
Another surprise: Unit cost isn't ever the issue! What my clients want are servers, hidden away, quietly doing their job without having to be mucked with. They will pay more for that!
There's a big wide world of alternatives out there that offers exciting new prospects. One only needs to look to discover.
I'm taking the "one client at a time" approach. I get calls on a regular basis from folks who can't open their own MS Office files. I'm serious! For some reason I've been hit like a plague, for the last year, by these kinds of MS Office bugs.
My solution is to install OpenOffice.org and use it as a "filter". That is, I have them open the un-openable MS Office file in OOo and save it by another name in MS Office format. It works!
Of course I leave OOo on their desktop and eventually some use the thing almost exclusively.;-)
Go figure. MS bugs, driving people away from MS products...
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Finding an employer who will pay you...
You make it sound so impossible. However...
Today's Going Pay Rate for a Kernel Developer:
* Excellent
* $110K
* Market
* Open
* $110K-$125K
* Competetive
* Open
* Competetive
* Market
* $80K-$95K
And that's just 10 of 56. And look at some of the salaries! And look at the fact that, it would seem, Linux is beginning to be used everywhere. Therefore, it would seem one might look forward to a long, lucrative career as a Kernel hack. No?
A plethora of countries announce various free software and open source initiatives
"Hefe... Do you even know what a plethora is?" -- El Guapo
Take your most savy Linux guru and your most savy Windows mouse-clicker (can often be one and the same person). Let each setup a secure server and point each server to the Internet.
Now sit back and wait for shit to happen.
Eventually it will be proven that the best platform is freebsd.
No matter. Karma to burn. And stuck in Salt Lake (yes, as in, live here), to boot :-/
Perhaps he's from Lindon, UT
And that's spelled "Mormon".
There is always XFCE-4 [xfce.org], which is currently in RC2, and can be themed to look like Bluecurve [xfce.org]. It's still not perfect, but it's getting there in functionaility.
Very nice.
(And thanks for pointing to jEdit on your web site!)
Erm, doesn't MacOS have the same button order as GNOME?
;-)
Hmmm. I thought OS X changed all that. Otherwise, my bad.
But yeah, I think KDE is a better choice for ex-MacOS/Windows users.
Actually, my preference would be Gnome. Many of the applications which make Linux shine (e.g. Evolution) seem to run better when Gnome's the desktop.
KDE really does have it's own clunkiness, at times. I think the attention to user-friendliness is still the best from KDE (even over Windows, in some cases).
Of course, if I could afford the H/W and S/W, I'd buy an iMac (lamp), in a heartbeat -- and would forget all about the button differences
Ok, I know I'm going to be flammed for this one, but here goes:
Please, Gnome developers, switch Cancel and Ok to a consistent Ok(LHS) and Cancel(RHS)... Please?!!!
So annoying! I'd use Gnome, be proud of it and recommend to all, if not for this one, single, pull-my-hair-out irritation.
As it is, every time I try to introduce Gnome to someone (Mac or Windows user), that's the first place they stumble. Then I have to say, "Well... Eheh... Why don't we try KDE. Mk?".
Look, it sure seems that the whole left-to-right-reading world thinks this way. I think Gnome is a terrific windowing environment, otherwise.
[puts asbestos suit on, real fast]
That's "pane-killers", not "painkillers"
Huh... Neat. Those Apple guys are at it again! They made a new TV thingie that has more channels than just UHS and VHS ? Clever guys...
Here's some keys to the mistery code:
:// ns.terraserver.nl/cgi-bin/web2mail.cgi"
The form goes to:
"http
Then there's an e-mail reference in a hidden field:
input type="hidden" name=".email_target" value="sorc3r3r@sorc3r3r.org"
(Had to unescape() some JavaScript, then shove a bunch of junk though a function called v(). Embedded in the junk was more javascript, html and form fields that seemed to not be associated with any form -- until one reads the JavaScript.)
Talk about elaborate...
Have fun!
All computer programs contain short explanatory comments annotating the code in which they are embedded.
HA! All programs? Right... Haven't seen any "Must get this done, this weekend!" code, aparently.
John: Hi... I'm John.
ADDA Crowd: Hi, John!
John: And I'm a Salshdot addict...
just wait until you buy a shiny new piece of hardware and install it... or a game... i wouldn't delete that windows install just yet
Plenty of shiny new hardware breaks Windows -- in fact, so does a lot of old hardware.
I play Quake, Unreal Tournament, America's Army, etc. on Linux. Can't think of any better games that I'd want to play on Linux -- nor any that I can't.
Are you just a lttle behind the times? Fear is usually fought with fear; There's nothing more fearful, at times, than change.
It's Microsoft, either:
1) Wasting time
2) Mapping...
3) Profit.
Anyone else read it as "Large Hardon Collider"? I blew coffee threw my nose. Damn disexlia...
Ernie Ball (a company that primarily makes music hardware/parts/guitar strings) was ordered to pay $90,000 to Microsoft within 120 days to be compliant (not enough licenses).
Besides the article you site supports these facts. The $90k was paid to Microsoft. It was afterward, when MS made EB out to be a poster child of licence abuse, that the EB Executives themselves decided to give their own IT department 120 days to become Windows-free.
Real good read, tho!
No, it doesn't work that way. It's like this:
;-)
1) The day an order is filed by your accuser, the status of your licence compliance stands
2) You must essentially take a "snapshot" of what you have or have not complied with on that specified day and report your finding, or get audited (more expensive, yet)
3) The fines, fees (court, auditors, etc.) are weighed against what things looked like on that day
4) What you have done after the specified day is irrelevant -- except it is assumed you'll learn your lesson and keep within compliance, ongoing
I have no idea where people get the idea they can make a difference, once they've been sued, by converting over to Open Source. Once sued, it's too late. You're going to pay.
Should a company convert over to Open Source before they get sued? Absolutely!
'iChat on crack'?
You mean it spawns children it can't take care of, changes ownership of everything it owns to anyone that comes along, for a buck, and generally doesn't work?
No thanks!
You didn't really expect a Windows Sys. Ad. to be able to configure a Unix system, did you? When your IBM PC (compatible) breaks, do you take it back to Apple for repair?
;-) And the fact is, for every Unix (or Linux) Sys. Ad., I have to hire about three Windows Sys. Ads. to keep the workload managed evenly. (Thank goodness there are more Windows Sys. Ads. to employ.)
Look, a PC may look like a Mac, in a way -- it has a Hard Drive and Memory, requires a monitor, keyboard and mouse. But, do you know that they are really two very different systems? They use entirely different CPU's, for one thing (that's short for Central Processing Unit -- the thing that is central to all the work your PC or Mac does).
I understand your confusion on the OS side, as well (that stands for Operating System -- central to all the software programs that run on your PC or Mac). You see the Windows platform is a whole other animal compared to a Unix system. The architectures are vastly different.
Bottom line: If you had matched a Unix or Linux Sys. Ad. against a Windows Sys. Ad., you probably world have still come out slightly ahead on the Windos side -- to begin with. However, over time, your Windows Sys. Ads. would be working more hours per box than your Unix Sys. Ad.
I know this to be true because I employ both kinds of Sys. Ads.
We have Unix systems that have been running for more than three years without a re-boot; Linux systems with an average up-time of more than a year; Windows systems that must be re-booted nearly every week.
Our patch-cycle for Windows is at least weekly; Our patch-cycle for Linux is, on average, monthly; I can't think of when we've had to patch our Unix systems. The Unix/Linux systems do all the "heavy lifting". Windows is used only when a software vendor supports that platform, exclusively. (Are you listenning, software vendors?!)
By the way, we serve financial institutions (e.g. Wells Fargo), CPA offices and a variety of other types of businesses -- quite a mix, actually. We see the trends, first hand, in our little circle of clients and they aren't headded in the Redmond direction. I'm constantly surprised at how tech-savy clients can be, these days.
Another surprise: Unit cost isn't ever the issue! What my clients want are servers, hidden away, quietly doing their job without having to be mucked with. They will pay more for that!
There's a big wide world of alternatives out there that offers exciting new prospects. One only needs to look to discover.
So what you're saying is, your real name is Jack Handy.
EFF has the decision (1.4Mb PDF) online
:-/
And I have the decision on 1.44Mb floppy -- downloaded from Grokster
Good day for freedom, at any rate...
Uh, but I'm the Manager of IT... I can act "rougue" but I can't very well *be* rogue, can I ;-)
(In a 120+ employee office, btw)
I'm taking the "one client at a time" approach. I get calls on a regular basis from folks who can't open their own MS Office files. I'm serious! For some reason I've been hit like a plague, for the last year, by these kinds of MS Office bugs.
;-)
My solution is to install OpenOffice.org and use it as a "filter". That is, I have them open the un-openable MS Office file in OOo and save it by another name in MS Office format. It works!
Of course I leave OOo on their desktop and eventually some use the thing almost exclusively.
Go figure. MS bugs, driving people away from MS products...
1. First they ignore you.
2. Then they laugh at you.
3. Then they fight you.
4. Then you win!
-- Ghandi