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Trepia: A Buddy List Of Strangers

An anonymous reader writes "Trepia has released an IM client that automatically populates itself with people who happen to be around you. Something that has been done before by Apple with iChat, but Trepia claims to be 'iChat on crack' in this article featuring the software. This could have potentially revolutionary social effects..."

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  1. I can see it now by billstr78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    WTF? You mean that 19 year old stripper is my retired next door neighbor Frank?

    1. Re:I can see it now by AvantLegion · · Score: 4, Funny
      WTF? You mean that 19 year old stripper is my retired next door neighbor Frank?

      This was modden "Informative"?

      Some mod has a twisted sense of humor.

    2. Re:I can see it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hy my name Eleca. Like to have boom boom. Please respond with picher of computer.

    3. Re:I can see it now by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      I used compu$erve's cb simulator (aka chat) back in 1982, times were diffrent then. The men were men. The women were men too.

      So yea... it is indeed informative!

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      There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
    4. Re:I can see it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the little boys were feds.

    5. Re:I can see it now by soloport · · Score: 1

      'iChat on crack'?

      You mean it spawns children it can't take care of, changes ownership of everything it owns to anyone that comes along, for a buck, and generally doesn't work?

      No thanks!

    6. Re:I can see it now by Jaysyn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oddly enough I see more Europeans on Trepia right now than anything else, 1 other Floridian, and a bunch of people on the other side of the country.

      Jaysyn

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      There is a war going on for your mind.
    7. Re:I can see it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri?

    8. Re:I can see it now by a.deity · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Seems like iChat on crack to me, not available on OS X, awful-looking chat window, incompatibility with any standard IM protocols.

      Someone had to be smoking crack to pull off such a poor copy of iChat. Good idea, poorly executed. Apple did it better, despite the occasional permissions hiccup.

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      Option-Shift-K.
    9. Re:I can see it now by PD · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Large, hairless, from Rigel. Fricking transtellarexuals.

  2. Even more spam? by locknloll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FP? ;)
    No, but seriously: at the moment I'm already getting irritated by the increasing amount of spam I receive via MSN (using Trillian & GAIM), so what might happen with this innovative product? Don't get me wrong, I love to get to know new people, but I'm a bit sceptic if this wouldn't attract a lot of "noise" ...

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    1. Re:Even more spam? by WTFmonkey · · Score: 1

      Bluntly put, that's the reason isps give you more than one email address. I use 4 of them, my non-geek gf uses 1.

      I like this idea. While I have no desire to shake hands with the people who are puting together the Official San Diego Styx Concert Memorial Site or somesuch, I'd still like to know it's happening.

    2. Re:Even more spam? by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can turn off the spam you get via MSN by setting your client to only allow messages from people on your buddy list. You're still notified when people add you to their list (and can choose to add them), but strangers not on your list can't harass you. This feature is available in Trillian, Windows Messenger, Kopete, and I *believe* Gaim (not 100% sure though).
      Check the privacy options.

    3. Re:Even more spam? by locknloll · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, too, but what does IM have to do with email?

      At the moment I'm facing the dilemma that most of my friends use MSN Messenger for IM - and this service is being flooded by spam. About every five minutes a new window pops up, promising hot naked chicks and bla bla bla ... and as far as I know Microsoft-based services, this is just the beginning...

      I actually hope that my friends get this crap, too - then it might be a bit easier for me to convert them to Jabber or ICQ...

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      -- Power corrupts, but PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.
    4. Re:Even more spam? by locknloll · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip - a bit hard to find, though. Had to go to the settings for the individual account while I thought that you could make this a general setting for the whole application. But it seems that I've just got rid of IM spam :)

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      -- Power corrupts, but PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.
    5. Re:Even more spam? by WTFmonkey · · Score: 1

      Sorry bro, did a flyby on your definition of spam. Assumed you might be using your *actual* email address in public situmuations. Anyhoo, (and this is not from an MS-bashing point of view, but a practicality one) tell them to switch to AIM as a MINIMUM. MSN messenger makes my medula hurt. Or tell them to only accept shit from "buddy"s. That'll help filter out all the extraneous horseshit. Luck.

    6. Re:Even more spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      All sentences beginning with "All" are wrong. Even this one, because it's correct. Paradox?

      Nope. "All A is A"... are an infinite number of sentences begining with "All" that are true.

      Also, "All sentences begining with 'All' are wrong." is itself wrong.

    7. Re:Even more spam? by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Informative

      or you could use Trillian. The Geek's solution for IM.

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      People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
    8. Re:Even more spam? by locknloll · · Score: 1

      I actually do that - ya think I'm not a real wannabe-geek? ;) but seriously, I needed a hint about where to find the "spam-eliminator" setting in Trillian. Now it should work...

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      -- Power corrupts, but PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.
    9. Re:Even more spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      MR2 DUX CM WANGS?
      s I cm wangs pn

      and it would have worked better if it wasn't for those meddling lameless filters)

    10. Re:Even more spam? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Informative

      MSN Messenger doesnt give spam - spam comes via your hotmail address, and if you make it public or forget to tick the boxes then you get spammed.

      Keep your details private and the spam wont come in

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
    11. Re:Even more spam? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

      You must live in a bad area, or gave your email to the wrong people, or something....I've been using MSN off and on for 3 years now, and i've NEVER gotten pop-up spam like that.

      It's not my favorite piece of software, granted, but it's not as bad as all that.

    12. Re:Even more spam? by WowTIP · · Score: 1

      I'd rather define Miranda IM as the geeks solution for IM. At least on the Windows platform.

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      "I'm surfin the dead zone
      In the twilight, unknown"
    13. Re:Even more spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Chances are, they will be in your general physical vicinity. Go find their wretched dorm, apartment, or trailer, and beat the living crap out of said spammer.

      Repeat as necessary.

    14. Re:Even more spam? by OneBarG · · Score: 1

      From the Trillian forum's FAQ

      That shows how to only accept IM's from users on your contact list.

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      I'm starting to think this isn't the best place to promote my Anti-Sig Campaign.
    15. Re:Even more spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did anyone notice the new ICQ spam bait technique? You get a system message saying user has added you to their list or something to that effect, presumably trying to prompt you to start a conversation and confirm a live ICQ account. I never reply to ICQ spam, and all new nicks go through a details check first; very fresh accounts don't have any yet (you'll get an error), so it's safe to assume it's spam; I don't even read it, just delete. Lots of people complain about spam on ICQ, but I rarely get any (once or twice a month maybe), and my number is published on web pages, public lists, and I'm available for chat, so lots of spam source potential there.

    16. Re: Even more spam? by Cybrr · · Score: 1

      All sentences that say exactly what this one says are true.

      But to stay on the topic that isn't displayed on this reply page, I think it would be a nice idea to include a webserver so one doesn't have to search the www to find nearby stores.

      --
      Why did GEAR crush RDP?
    17. Re:Even more spam? by DaemonGem · · Score: 1

      The problem with this, however, is that you can't get IM's even from people you know who have gotten a new screen name. This can be gotten around, of course, but it's still a problem.
      -Dae

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      j00 4r3 3n73r1ng l337 w0r1d.
    18. Re:Even more spam? by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 1

      That's why you set it to notify you when people add you to their list. You can either add them or ignore them. You don't get spam (unless bigbreasts@hotmail.com is your friend), and you add people as you need them. These people have your email address (we're talking about MSN messenger), so it's not like they can't tell you their new account, anyway.

    19. Re:Even more spam? by DaemonGem · · Score: 1

      Well, as far as I know, you can also do this with AIM at the very least (either AIM or Y!), and there, I had to talk to the guy on an old screen name that he had in his list before he was able to add me. I couldn't IM him otherwise, and I couldn't add him.
      -Dae

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      "Alle reden vom wetter. Wir nicht." - SDS Sozialistischer Deutscher Studentenbund.
      j00 4r3 3n73r1ng l337 w0r1d.
    20. Re:Even more spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes you can, but there is no notification when someone adds you to their list on AIM.

  3. Half Way There by aSiTiC · · Score: 1

    Provide a Linux client or OSS protocol...

    1. Re:Half Way There by den_erpel · · Score: 1

      The second of your suggestions is more than enough, let the OS/FS community take it from there and improve on it.

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      Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis. You can't simply say, "Today I will be brilliant."
    2. Re:Half Way There by unixbugs · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, genius does what it wants and talent will do what it can. In this case we are dealing with fruit trying to play Dr. Ruth.

      --
      You are about to give someone a piece of your mind, something which you can ill afford...
    3. Re:Half Way There by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, download the client and reverse engineer it.

    4. Re:Half Way There by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      On Trepia's page we find "Trepia's(TM) technology is patent-pending." I searched for patents issued to Trepia, as well as to its cofounders, and didn't really find anything relevant. Cuong Do is listed on a number of patents, but none seemed to relate to Trepia. The other founder did not appear at all. They mention "Progressive Proximity search," which also does not appear to have any related patents. That aside, it does not really appear that they are the type to offer up an OSS client, or protocol. I am wondering what exactly it is that they are claiming patents on.

      I have to admit my curiosity is now peeked. It would certainly be interesting to download the client and see what packets it is throwing around...

    5. Re:Half Way There by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      piqued. piqued piqued piqued. Your curiosity is piqued.

    6. Re:Half Way There by loopyfx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I got some data off the wire, here is what I made of it after about 10 min of observation:

      outgoing message:
      <F><a>4181</a><b>testing out</b></F>

      incoming message:
      <Q><a>4181</a><b>gorgonzola</b></Q>

      outgoing message:
      <F>
      <a>4181</a> remote uid
      <b>testing out</b> message
      </F>

      incoming message:
      <Q>
      <a>4181</a> remote uid
      <b>gorgonzola</b> message
      </Q>

      incoming member update? [0x0A between each element]
      <M>
      <a>4141</a> member id
      <b>1054626160</b> timestamp
      <c>2</c></M>
      variations of <c> = 1,2

      ??
      <N>
      <a>4141</a> remote uid
      </N>

      login:
      <C>
      <a>xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx</a> my MAC
      <b1>xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx</b1> my default gateway's MAC
      <c>my login</c>
      <d>my password, MD5'd and probably salted. 32 bytes</d>
      <e>2.0</e> version?
      </C>

      ???:
      <L>
      <a>0</a>
      <b>1054630291</b> timestamp?
      <c>2</c>
      </L> ... series of <M> ...

      request profile?:
      <D>
      <a>1498</a>
      <b>1</b>
      </D> ... in a series, variations of <b> = 1,2
      1=full, 2=partial? ...

      profile:
      <O>
      <a>1498</a> member id
      <p>missouri</p> location
      <b>1044120269</b> login time?
      <d>xxxxx</d> login
      <m>99</m> age
      <n>F</n> sex
      <g>xxx</g> first name
      <h>xxxl</h> last name
      <o>wardriver</o> profile data
      <e>xxxx@xxxx.com</e> email
      <i></i>
      <j>xxxxx</j> AIM
      <k></k>
      <l></l>
      <f>http://xxxxxxx.org</f> homepage
      <r>usa</r>
      <s>mo</s> state
      <t></t> city
      <u></u> languages?
      <v></v> school?
      <w></w> company?
      <q></q> base64 encoded image (not always present)
      </O>

    7. Re:Half Way There by n3k5 · · Score: 1

      If anyone's interested in launching a SF project to build a Java version of this thing and either get the Protocol/API or even source from the Trepia guys, or, should this fail, reverse engineer it, contact me, I'm willing to help.

      --
      but what do i know, i'm just a model.
    8. Re:Half Way There by BJH · · Score: 5, Informative

      1054626160 timestamp

      Yep, looks like it (time from the Unix epoch).

      1054630291 timestamp?

      Don't think so... depends on when you grabbed this capture, but I'd say it's more likely to be a session timeout of some kind.

      1044120269 login time?

      This is approximately 121 days prior to the two previous times, so I'd say not. Build time of the binary?

    9. Re:Half Way There by den_erpel · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      not really, we are dealing with fruit not recognising a quote of James T. Kirk.


      [marc@scorpius marc]$ cat /usr/share/games/fortunes/startrek |grep -A 2 Genius
      Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis. You can't simply say,
      "Today I will be brilliant."
      -- Kirk, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4731.3
      --
      Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis. You can't simply say, "Today I will be brilliant."
    10. Re:Half Way There by BartVB · · Score: 1

      Maybe smarter/more efficient to extend Jabber to do location stuff like this? :D

    11. Re:Half Way There by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO,
      NONONONONONONO!

      YOU should only use WINDOWS or else you are a subversive terrorist.

      Lunix will be the end of humanity.

      plzdie, kthx

    12. Re:Half Way There by doublem · · Score: 1

      Don't bother with using this thing as a base. Do your own from scratch.

      The sucker doesn't work. It's a joke and the single most primitive IM I've ever seen.

      Besides, their location technology is a joke. It doesn't work.

      --
      "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
  4. Amazing by AvantLegion · · Score: 5, Funny
    The lengths that some geeks will go to in order to avoid actual social interaction is astounding.

    Kind of an interesting idea though. Although I can already imagine the pedos listing N'Sync and Lizzie McGuire as their "interests"...

    "But Mom, he was my "buddy"..."

    1. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Meeting people online is a lot cheaper, safer, and easier than most real life methods. I don't like clubbing (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober), I don't go to school or church, I usually don't meet many people in my work as a programmer (especially single women), and most the people I hang out with are all geeks which means 95% male. I don't feel I have the time or money to invest in trying to pick women up in the old fshioned ways so online methods can be a big help.

      The safety factor could be a big plus for women especially. You aren't likely to be slipped a date rape drug and find yourself tied to hotel bed while being gang raped if your meeting through the Net. Sure you have some risk when you eventually do meet the people in real life but you get some chance to screen people before going out with them.

      People who think pedos are going wild online are a bit mistaken. Sure there are some but there are a lot more that are out there in real life. It'd be a lot easier to grab some brat off the street or playground than to arrange to meet them off the Net. Anything online leaves a paper trail and you can't know if the person you're talking to really is Lil Tommy or Agent Nutcracker or even Lil Tommy's parents. The majority of underage folks that get 'kidnapped' by online friends are freaky folks that are out banging anything they can anyway or at least wishing they were. Mostly horny teenagers that are wanting to get picked up.

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    2. Re:Amazing by Negatyfus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Meeting people online is a lot cheaper, safer, and easier than most real life methods. I don't like clubbing (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober), I don't go to school or church, I usually don't meet many people in my work as a programmer (especially single women), and most the people I hang out with are all geeks which means 95% male. I don't feel I have the time or money to invest in trying to pick women up in the old fshioned ways so online methods can be a big help.

      Dude, you seriously need an alcohol addiction.

    3. Re:Amazing by more+fool+you · · Score: 1

      if it's any consolation, you made me laugh :)

    4. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Been there, done that, found it to expensive and not very satisfying. I live to code and build cool things so anything that interferes with that is bad.. which includes drugs, alcohol, caffine, and women. I'd like to give up working pathetic sucky jobs too but I've yet to find a way to make a living just inventing stuff. Maybe if I had a PhD or a rich uncle or something I could get paid for crazy R&D stuff. :)

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    5. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You aren't likely to be slipped a date rape drug and find yourself tied to hotel bed while being gang raped if your meeting through the Net.

      Speak for yourself, duckie. Some of us quite like that sort of thing :)

    6. Re:Amazing by AvantLegion · · Score: 4, Funny
      Meeting people online is a lot cheaper, safer, and easier than most real life methods. I don't like clubbing (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober), I don't go to school or church, I usually don't meet many people in my work as a programmer (especially single women), and most the people I hang out with are all geeks which means 95% male. I don't feel I have the time or money to invest in trying to pick women up in the old fshioned ways so online methods can be a big help.

      [..]Sure you have some risk when you eventually do meet the people in real life but you get some chance to screen people before going out with them.

      I LIKE YOU, I'M A WOMAN, MEET ME BEHIND THE WHEREHOUSE

    7. Re:Amazing by cioxx · · Score: 1

      your post makes me sad. :(

    8. Re:Amazing by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      People who think pedos are going wild online are a bit mistaken. Sure there are some but there are a lot more that are out there in real life. It'd be a lot easier to grab some brat off the street or playground than to arrange to meet them off the Net.

      There was an issue like this on 60 minutes.

      [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/04/48hou rs /main323159.shtml]

      I'm unsure about the age of the child involved, though I suspect between 13-16 at the time, but this a good example about the net fear factor. So could fit into your horny teenager theory, but ya know... taking a minor across national borders under the parent's radar... that's a touch sick.

      While I agree with you, cases like this are rare, and ya it's probally easier to kidnap someone off the street. And hell, if you log your chats, then oh yea, great paper trail.... except...

      this is speculation mind you... I noticed that in the video version I saw, the noises were that of "msn chat", a chat system that pretty much requires that you use the web based chat, and has no option to save chats. "MSN Messanger" is also the same way, by default it doesn't save chats. Use of these chat systems wouldn't create a decent paper trail at all, unfortunatly...

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      There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
    9. Re:Amazing by Timesprout · · Score: 1

      with that is bad.. which includes drugs, alcohol, caffine, and women.

      Please carry on as you are so because it leaves more of the good things in life for the rest of us

      --
      Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
      What truth?
      There is no dupe
    10. Re:Amazing by vrai · · Score: 4, Funny
      I live to code and build cool things so anything that interferes with that is bad.. which includes drugs, alcohol, caffine, and women.

      No birds, drugs, booze, or Moutain Dew? Right at this moment I am so glad I'm not you ...

    11. Re:Amazing by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

      WORD! - all but one of those (caffine) are the only things that can drag me away from the computer.

      Take them away and... well... let's not go there...

    12. Re:Amazing by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sure you have some risk when you eventually do meet the people in real life but you get some chance to screen people before going out with them.

      Wow you are easy to bluff.. I've been online forever I was there in the beginnings of IRC and was there as a server op/several channel op/ etc... for years... and I will tell you one underlying fact.

      the person you are talking to online is LYING to you. most make crap up, heavily color, whatever. if you think it's any more safe meeting someone you've been chatting with for 2 months than it is meeting someone at a bar then I pity you.

      It's no safer, that person still can be a wacko.

      It's harder for people to lie in person, facial expressions, actions, etc. give it away. online... Hell..

      Hi, I'm one of the players from the Detroit Tigers baseball team..... Yup, one of the new rookie drafts from this year.

      I'm not... Best I could ever do is mascot. but some simple things can be done to trick others into believeing.

      It's social engineering plai and simple... and online it's massively simple to social engineer.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    13. Re:Amazing by Kieckerjan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > I don't feel I have the time or money to invest
      > in trying to pick women up in the old fshioned
      > ways so online methods can be a big help.

      The way you talk about it ("time nor money", "pick up women") you don't sound like you're ready for a relationship at all. Getting to know someone costs a lot of time and energy, and, since you bring it up: yes, usually money as well. The internet is no shortcut to that. Granted, it might be easier to find people sharing your interests, but the lion's share of the considerable investment of building something together remains the same.

      --
      Being well balanced is overrated. -- John Carmack
    14. Re:Amazing by golgotha007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      wow, you're a perfect candidate for Ultima Online or Everquest.

      Apply today!

    15. Re:Amazing by horza · · Score: 1

      Either you live in an appalling area, in which case I'd suggest moving, or you watch FAR too much TV. Life out there isn't dangerous, and if bars don't suit you then join some clubs (rambling, canoeing, etc). In fact in many clubs (eg orchestra, French lessons, any kind of dance lesson) the women outnumber the guys more than 2-1. Last time I went to a dance lesson, there were 3 women for every 1 guy and you got to dance with every single one of them.

      Don't bother trying to scare the women with being raped either. Though many of them may enjoy going online they still prefer to meet men the traditional way (ie face to face) if possible. Taking the easiest route may not prove to be the most durable in the long run. Get out there, and if you're a nice guy then you'll bump into someone eventually. There's no rush. In the mean time savour being single... you'll miss it later ;-)

      Phillip.

    16. Re:Amazing by MongooseCN · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't like clubbing who can afford $50/night...

      Depends, how many seals you can take home a night?

    17. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Sad? Why?

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    18. Re:Amazing by mpe · · Score: 1

      It's harder for people to lie in person, facial expressions, actions, etc. give it away. online... Hell.

      That doesn't mean that there arn't a fair number of people who are capable of doing this very well.

    19. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I guess that I don't consider teenagers really minors. I'm more of the mindset if you can go out trying to 'get some' then your old enough to consent. I'm more with some other countries (not USA) opinions that 14-16 is a better age to draw that line at. Just from remembering how I was myself at that age. At that age I had already blown my parents off from having any say in my life. I've had friends parents charge their boyfriends with rape because their boyfriend turned 18 a year or two before they did. Luckily in these cases there was usually some sort of years-differential clause in the law that held so it was just a hassle for the guys. I do find it odd that a 16yo can consent to having sex with an 18yo but not a 28yo. Isn't consent the same either way? Just seems wacky to me.

      A lot of chat programs auto-log. Web-based chats also leave records in the browser, on the web server, in proxy servers, through many isp's bandwidth logs, etc. If someone wants to look they can track you down. I've tracked users down myself in these ways. If you use the Net to do something it's very difficult to keep from being traced. Not impossible but probably more involved than most pedos are likely to bother with.

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    20. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Exactly why I'm working on giving them up. They are distractions. Though the caffine I'm largely giving up because it was inpacting my health and mental stability. Soda (with caffine) was making me fat so I quit it. Caffine in general was giving me cause to worry about my heart and was keeping me from sleeping and worsening my mood swings.

      The hardest thing I've been finding to give up is potatos. I love french fries. Giving them up is rough. Of course a sane person would try giving up one thing at a time.. so of course I set out to give up my every vice all at once. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    21. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've been online forever too and I still disagree with you. ;)

      I'm a stupid geek boy with the social skills of a turnip and even I can spot people who are full of shit. If someone can't pick out the shitheads then they probably will be hurt no matter how they go.

      Besides I'm paranoid. I backtrace most the people I chat with for any length of time so that I can find out who they really are. Of course not everybody knows how to do that but it is a useful tool. I've tried to do that in real life but it takes more work. No useful IP addresses or other clues to let you trace them.

      I can fool just about anybody in person. Sociopaths are very good at faking facial expressions, tones of voice, emotional responses, etc to fit their needs.

      It's much harder to carry on such a dialog over the period of months without the aid of the emotional ploys you can use to distract people as in real life. It's difficult to even disguise who you are online. Even if you change your alias and try to change your style of writing and fake being someone else a good many people that know you will still recognize you. People seem to be very good at recognizing such patterns.

      If people believe implausible claims without LOTS of proof then they are morons best weeded out of the genetic pool.

      It's much easier to social engineer in person. Most people you can begin working on before you even open your mouth. Body language, cloths, etc are easy ploys to use.

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    22. Re:Amazing by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Luckily in these cases there was usually some sort of years-differential clause in the law that held so it was just a hassle for the guys. I do find it odd that a 16yo can consent to having sex with an 18yo but not a 28yo. Isn't consent the same either way? Just seems wacky to me.

      Well, it's hard to say where a good cut off age is. I can't think of the last time I considered sex with a 20 year old let alone anyone younger. I guess living in the states alters your perceptions somewhat, not seeing anyone under 21 in a bar and all. But generally speaking sub 18 kida and an adult a decade their elder is usually considered to be in bad taste. I imagine that one aspect of such laws is in the event that you have a complaint about a authority figure presuring a sub 18 year old into sex.. then they actually have a case. If no one complains about it, well that's that. Where I live there is a major paranoia about teacher's having sex with students. To be honest, I don't jive with that. One most recent case, there was a rumor that the boy pretty much suduced a 28 year old teacher for the explisit purposes of extorting money out of the school system... to be honest I don't know who's more fucked up, the teacher going after junior highschool kids, or the boy trying to get money this way.

      But I honestly don't know of a good age of concent to be honest. I'll fully agree an absolute 18yo cut of limit is bad news. It just serves to make people criminals for dating at that age, unless you are born on the same day, someone is going to be the younger.

      I think in the case I refered to, I think the girl was sub 16 at the time she was left the country.

      A lot of chat programs auto-log.

      Well, this is true, though very much good luck with MSN service. From my understanding they don't typicaly log on the server side, and it's not like any of the typical users log either. While you can get something like MIRC to work with MSN chat, it being loosly based on the IRC protocal, it's not terribaly practical to use as a client, esp with it's lack of unicode support. I guess I do managage a room on there, and I do run a stats program, so I do log for about 72 hours or so.

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    23. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've spent the time and money and got nothing from it so I no longer spend any more time or money. I don't really care if people love me or hate me or just don't notice me at all.. not anymore. If somebody decides to latch onto me then great but I'm not going to go looking. If I notice someone I'd like to latch onto then maybe I'll go looking for them and only them. I know what I'm looking for and there is very little chance of finding it but if I do it won't be at a nightclub.

      I don't use online chat or instant messages or even personal email hardly anymore. A few mailing lists, Slashdot, and IRC when I feel like discussing something technical.

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    24. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I don't really play games. I'd rather build stuff. That's where the real fun is. Now if my neighbors were up to our own local version of Junkyard Wars every weekend I'd be happy to socialize. :)

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    25. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I do live in an appalling area currently.. out in the middle of freaking redneck central in the rural midwest.. horrible I can tell you.

      I don't like meeting new people or making new friends. Even clubs I've been an active member of for years I doubt you could say I have any friends in.

      Clubs IMO are a much better and safer way to meet people than random pickups at a nightclub. Nightclubs IMO suck. Even without the risks of drugs and stuff your still making decisions while likely drunk that could have nasty results. Face to face is fine. It just has drawbacks compared to online chat. As you say it also has benefits. Either way I really don't care to meet new people.

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    26. Re:Amazing by maddskillz · · Score: 1

      Wow, I just had an epiphany here! I always tried to pick up the sober chicks, while they still didn't like me. I think you may be on to something with this drunk women scheme

    27. Re:Amazing by mustangsal66 · · Score: 1

      A woman would know how to spell warehouse.

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    28. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is really no good age to consider people adults but the USA seems kind of schizo on the matter. You can be 40 here and still live with your momma and people won't think to much of it. That and the age of adulthood is so freaking fragmented. You have to be 15 to get a drivers permit and 16 to drive.. but in some places you have to be 18 for either. You have to be 18 to be considered an adult but some places you can be considered an adult earlier with parent consent (parent consent to be an adult!?). Then you can vote at 18 but can't run for most elected offices until your older. Depending where you live you usually can't legally look at nude bodies til you're 18-21 but it's okay to have sex as long as neither of the partners is on the other side of that 'consent' line. You can even be charged with child pronography for photographing your legal wife naked if she is under 18 or 21 (whatever the local line is). Depending where you live you can get married at anywhere from 14 to 18. You can't smoke or drink until your 21 even though you can vote at 18 (I can decide the fate of my nation but not drink a beer?) and in some places they are trying to push that line up to like 24. You can work at any age under certain conditions but have to be like 16 to work a normal job and 18 to work a full time decent job. You can be tried as an adult at 13 even though you have no real way to be treated as an adult for having done something good. And so on and so on.. really crazy shit.

      I'd just say the age of adulthood is 15 and be done with it. At 15 you can do anything an adult can do. You can vote, drive, drink, smoke, have sex, get married, work, pay taxes, see nude bodies, run for office, be given life in prison, and all the other great things of being responsible for oneself. Let people bicker over where to draw the line if they want but at least make it consistant.

      An authority figure can put pressure on someone of any age. I see no reason to make special cases. I don't really care if students have sex with teachers myself as long as both consent. I sort of wish certain teachers of mine would have taken advantage of me. ;)

      I haven't used MSN chat so I can't give any examples but I know at least the raw traffic is being logged in multiple locations.

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    29. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      1) "I can fool just about anybody in person."
      2) "Sociopaths are very good at faking facial expressions, tones of voice, emotional responses, etc to fit their needs."
      3) "I backtrace most the people I chat with for any length of time so that I can find out who they really are."

      Um, yeah...sounds like excellent reasons not to meet people over irc...

    30. Re:Amazing by roystgnr · · Score: 1

      I can fool just about anybody in person. Sociopaths are very good at faking facial expressions, tones of voice, emotional responses, etc to fit their needs.

      If you really want to fool people, you probably shouldn't use the words "I" and "sociopaths" so interchangeably in conversation.

    31. Re:Amazing by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      Besides I'm paranoid. I backtrace most the people I chat with for any length of time so that I can find out who they really are. ... I've tried to do that in real life but it takes more work.

      I can fool just about anybody in person. Sociopaths are very good at faking facial expressions...

      It's much easier to social engineer in person...

      So according to your post, you're a sociopathic, manipulative stalker? Er, no offence, but I think you're of the sort people trying to stay away from. ;)

      --Dan

    32. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no rush. In the mean time savour being single... you'll miss it later ;-)


      no truer statement has ever been typed

    33. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I'm reformed. It doesn't mean I can't still do it. It just means I don't want to and therefore don't mind admitting to it. Still, I have sucked people into the story I was creating even after just having told them I was going to do so. I do hope people here are a little smarter and more aware than that though. :)

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    34. Re:Amazing by ToadMan8 · · Score: 1

      If peopeople believe implausible claims without LOTS of proof then they are morons best weeded out of the genetic pool.
      Oh you mean like religous people? That leaves the vast majority of people "morons best weeded out of the genetic pool." I'd tend to agree ;)

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    35. Re:Amazing by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

      Even if you change your alias and try to change your style of writing and fake being someone else a good many people that know you will still recognize you. People seem to be very good at recognizing such patterns.

      I have to disagree with you here. People are idiots, and given 5 minutes your average person will be more than willing to demonstrate this to you, often repeatedly.

      From example, I know of one woman who was staulked by a single guy for months online, yet she thought it was a different one, each time he got a new screen name. And were this an isolated incident, I wouldn't even mention it, but it's not. I know of several women who do the same damn thing, and then they whine and bitch about not finding a good guy ( meanwhile, I'm edging towards the door, because they're giving me that "hungry" look ).

      No, people are retarded monkeys, and the risk between online and real world are about the same if you are a moron, albeit different.

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    36. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recognize a lot of your philosophies and I just wanted to ask if you've ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome?

      There was a slashdot article on it a while back...

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/17/013243

      I only mention this becuase I have AS, and I can relate well to most of what you're saying...

    37. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I'm a sociopathic paranoid person. I trace people mostly so I can avoid them - not so I can meet them.

      Yes, I'm probably the sort of person most people are trying to stay away from. Lucky for them I'm also trying to stay away from them. It depends on my mood swings though. Sometimes I might want to take care of everyone (much like pets) and other times I might feel like a god among brainless toys that I can do with as pleases me. Luckily, I usually avoid people when in the latter mood so I'm generally pretty nice.

      At least I'm not a pedo or anything though. I might see people as pets instead of equals but at least I don't see them as worthy to mate with. If left with me the worst I'd try to do with your kids is make them smarter, more creative, and more independant.

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    38. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Exactly. One reason I'm not religious. That and I just really don't care about how we got here or where we go when we die. No use worrying about such things. There are plenty of more interesting questions to waste my life answering.

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    39. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      People are idiots but they are trained by countless generations of evolution to recognize patterns. The same person that puts a toaster next to their shower could id her best friend even in a full body full face Halloween costume.

      Not that there aren't exceptionally stupid people who can't even reach the abilities of a chimp. Again such people need weeded out of the gene pool and I feel no need to protect them. If you find any especially tastey women that need to be weeded then please share them around. I'm willing to lift my ban on vices (such as women) now and then. ;)

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    40. Re:Amazing by PD · · Score: 1

      Not to shabby. Usually a blown seal costs a lot more.

    41. Re:Amazing by Glonoinha · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Not the kind of woman that would double up on a dude like me.

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    42. Re:Amazing by BHearsum · · Score: 1

      You can't really generalize a cut-off age and have it perfect for everybody. 18 is used because it's generally accepted that it's a time of 'maturity', which, by my observation isn't always true. I know MANY people that are over 20 that still don't understand the ramifications of having sex (espcially unprotected sex). Then again, I know peopel as young as 15 that *do* understand, and *are* responsible enough not to fsck up their lives.

    43. Re:Amazing by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      No, its just ice cream.

    44. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You aren't likely to be slipped a date rape drug and find yourself tied to hotel bed while being gang raped if your meeting through the Net. "

      Have this problem before did ya???
      I've heard scary things about these women who go around finding unsuspecting geeks on their first night out clubbin only for the geeks to wake up being tied to a bed with 100s of women gang raping them
      WITH STRAP ONS!!!! DUN DUN DUN!

    45. Re:Amazing by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober)

      Tucker Max, is that you?

    46. Re:Amazing by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      Well, the record store is spelled Wherehouse, but in this case he probably meant warehouse.

    47. Re:Amazing by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      Why the FUCK would want to give up potatos? Potatos are GREAT! Ohh... I bet your one of those Sedentary people that can't eat carbohydrates because you never excersise...
      That's your weight problem in a nutshell right there. And it will help with your sleep issues too, despite the caffeine. Spend 1 hour, just one TINY hour doing jump rope, jumping jacks, stationary biking, lots of things you can quickly and easily in your own home that will help you get in better shape. Go to lifelineusa.com and buy the Power Pushup and just leave it in your chair, Whenever you take a break from coding to think grab the handles and bust out 10-15 reps with whatever resistence level you are comfortable with.
      Excersise is more important for health than dieting (though eatting the right kinds of food, regardless of quantity is equally important) if you really want to improve your health and state of mind there is no substitute for excersise.

      Kintanon

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    48. Re:Amazing by wiremind · · Score: 1

      Dude, you seriously need an alcohol addiction.
      I was a computer geek, all the way, no social life, no social skills, 1 or 2 real life friends.

      2 Years ago, i took up an alcohol addiction, it was the best choice I ever made.

      Now, I get invited to parties, I Have parties (NOT LAN) I interact socially and physically with the female gender on a regular basis. And at the same time it hasnt affected my work life, I'm full time programmer, and the only reason i got the job was because a drinking buddy of mine recommended me.

      But thats just me, maybe drugs or a sports club might do better for you?

      Kyle

    49. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I get lots of exercise and still was slowly gaining weight. I don't really eat that much either. I do drink a lot of liquids though which is one reason for cutting off the soda (all that needless sugar). Thus the reason I'm cutting way back on a few things that are likely to blame.

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    50. Re:Amazing by happystink · · Score: 1

      You feel like a god among brainless toys, and yet your sig is "Coed naked netting: pushing all the right buttons". Interesting.

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    51. Re:Amazing by cyber0ne · · Score: 1

      Although I can already imagine the pedos listing N'Sync and Lizzie McGuire as their "interests"...

      Sure, it's a shame and we know it's going to happen. Look at it this way... Sick people are out there. Always have been, always will be. But I'd rather they be hanging out in a chatroom than, say, my church's youth groups or going camping with the [boy|girl]scouts.

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    52. Re:Amazing by davidhan · · Score: 1

      The majority of underage folks that get 'kidnapped' by online friends are freaky folks that are out banging anything they can anyway or at least wishing they were. Mostly horny teenagers that are wanting to get picked up.

      Just because the victims of bad guys are messed up doesn't make them less victims, or the crimes less criminal.

    53. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      People are toys with buttons. Press the right ones and they do what you want.

      You have no idea how long I've had that sig either. Probably since before Slashdot was even thought about. It's a slight mod to a different sig I used before the web existed. :)

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    54. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      How can you be a victim if you went out seeking what was done to you? May as well hire someone to demolish your house and then sue them afterwards for having done so.

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    55. Re:Amazing by davidhan · · Score: 1

      If you're a minor, you can still be a victim of a sex act, even if you invited to it.

    56. Re:Amazing by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      I'd leave potatos in and switch to drinking water. That will do you more good.
      Also, if you are excersising and gaining weight check to see if you are putting on muscle or fat. If it's muscle, and you don't want to gain weight, switch to aerobic workouts.

      Kintanon

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    57. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      True. But as I said in some ongoing discussions I don't think teenagers are minors. They might be in law but in fact they have the ability to make reasoned decisions about their own sexuality. I'd be nice if there was a way to base adulthood on some sort of test of maturity, wisdom, and so forth but as we can't I think a better line would be at about 14-15. If you don't understand what sex is by then.. well then your probably in special ed. Y'know once you've passed that "show me yours and i'll show you mine" stage into actively seeking out sexul encounters. Sure they'll make mistakes but that'll happen regardless of where you draw the line. Most teenagers, when I was a teenager anyway (not to long ago), are sexually active anyway so why criminalize it?

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    58. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I should drink more water.. and am making an effort. Right now I drink about a gallon of water, a gallon of 2% milk, and a gallon of 100% juice a day.

      I still eat some potatos.. just a lot less. No french fries for lunch and a baked potato for dinner with chips as a snack in front of the tv. Nothing I'm giving up am I giving up 100%. Those sort of deals I think cause you to fail. By giving up 99% I can maintain better self control. Before I was so addicted to caffine that I had to have 4-5 2 litters of Pepsi a day. Now I'm down to about a can or two a week.

      I am already pretty muscular. I'm sure in raw muscle I have a lot more than the average. No, I'm not actually worried about the weight. I'm worried because my waste line keeps increasing.

      My resolution for this year is to become optimal.. which means cutting back on anything that impacts my mind or body in the negative. Sort of pointing my perfectionist mindset towards myself. I get to be my own whipping boy. :)

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      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    59. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I LIKE YOU, I'M A WOMAN, MEET ME BEHIND THE WHEREHOUSE

      I'm afraid that you misspelt "man" and "whorehouse". You wouldn't want to give this poor guy the wrong impression now, would you?
    60. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dude...that's really sad. Here's a clue: if you want a life, quit making computers the center of your existence. Stop hanging out with geeks, they're losers. I used to be just like you. I determined, in my best nerdly fashion, that I was unhappy. I dropped the crap, learned how to pick up chicks (fastseduction.com has the manual) and now I feel comfortable (usually) around women and have no problem asking for a shag.

      Online dating is just a scam to make money for the same folks who make porn sites. Not that it doesn't work...my ex-neighbor used to pick up chicks from AOL chat all the time and fuck them. They were never that pretty, but he had constant action.

    61. Re:Amazing by 1029 · · Score: 1

      The safety factor could be a big plus for women especially. You aren't likely to be slipped a date rape drug and find yourself tied to hotel bed while being gang raped if your meeting through the Net. Sure you have some risk when you eventually do meet the people in real life but you get some chance to screen people before going out with them.

      And thus we see a real problem with (US at least) perceptions these days. We are all convinced that everyone is out to get us. Everyone is a raving madman, because the news says so every night! If its not road-rage, it's date rape drugs. If it isn't school shootings, its crack fiends. You can also get killed when lightening strikes your monitor and blows you to pieces, but nobody ever worries about that.

      I don't think more online chat is what we really need (though it certainly can be useful). If you want to start meeting people, try starting up a converstation next time you see your neighbor. Or chat up that hot women in line at your ATM. You don't need to go clubbing, or boozing, you just need to be a little outgoing and talk to the people who are enevitably all around you every time you step outside.

      Whooops, guess alot of geeks don't tend to step outside that often... well damn.

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    62. Re:Amazing by DougWebb · · Score: 1

      The gallon of water is fine (spread through the day, I hope) but the gallon of milk and gallon of juice are bad. In particular, the juice is nearly as bad as soda; it's full of sugar.

      Consider this: one orange has water, sugar (fructose), fiber, and vitamins (mostly in the pulp.) If you eat an orange, you feel happy. To make a glass of orange juice, you have to squeeze SIX oranges, which keeps the water and sugar, but loses most or all of the fiber and vitamins. So you're basically drinking flat orange soda.

      Milk isn't much better, especially the low-fat/non-fat stuff. It's full of lactose, which is another sugar, and without the fat it's much less satisfying, so you drink more of it. I'm assuming you're not a baby cow, so milk is a questionable part of your diet anyway.

      Water is good, green tea is awesome, and you can get it caffene-free. There's also a brand of soda that is made with sucralose, which your body can't process, so it doesn't cause an insulin spike like most sugars do. I wouldn't drink gallons of it, but sometimes it's nice to have something carbonated, and seltzer can get boring.

    63. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I'm a big scary guy that mutters a lot about weird things. I know from experience that women get upset if I start talking to them without warning. ;)

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    64. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I can't stand water so I figure a gallon or so a day is enough to force down my throat. I figure juice is probably better than soda of liquor. If cutting those out doesn't have the desired effect I guess I'll drop the juice and milk to eventually. I perfer whole milk but nobody around me does so I usually buy 2%. Even without the juice and milk I probably get more than the needed amount of vitamins and such so I guess that isn't an issue.

      I don't like green tea. At least none I've had. I don't really see the point of drinking tea without caffine as it's just ground up leaves in water. Call it dirty water I guess. The only benefit is it often covers up the taste of tap water that many resturants use. I had the shit that is in the water most places. At home I only drink well filtered water.

      What kind of soda is made with sucralose? That'd be interesting to me. I'm a Pepsi and Dr. Pepper addict but I don't like the sugar free caffine free kind. So pretty much I'm just leaving alone all sodas right now.

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    65. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should drink more water.. and am making an effort. Right now I drink about a gallon of water, a gallon of 2% milk, and a gallon of 100% juice a day.

      There's your problem -- if you got rid of that milk intake you could easily drink Mountain Dew all day long and be skinny as a rail. (it works for me)

      Drinking milk is *not* a healthy activity. You might check out the milk sucks website. Sure, it's run by PETA but it speaks the truth and can be an eye-opener. Might want to make sure you finish off that gallon FIRST, though. :)

    66. Re:Amazing by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      There's also the case where a person is very different on-line than they are in person because of the anonymity. I knew this chick that was really quiet in person, but if she was on-line she'd go on and on and on. She wasn't lying about herself, she wasn't trying to make me believe something, she just was way more confident when she didn't have to come face to face with someone. It was frustrating, because I'd want to spend time with her and she'd prefer to speak with me via chat.

      I doubt that there are going to be many psychos out there. You're better off getting to know them on-line, but not putting much thought or heart into it. Then go on a couple physical dates with them to get to know how they are in real life. If you stay distant enough in the begninning, you won't be burned or surprised by .... um... 19 year old strippers named "Frank."

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    67. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gods of slashdot need to consider a new moderation category: "Creepy"

    68. Re:Amazing by davidhan · · Score: 1

      Sure, some 16 year olds are more mature than some 20 year olds, and yes, in some cultures, past and present, people routinely married at ages as young as 13, but "minor" is a legal definition. You can't just consider yourself to be not a minor anymore, you have to wait until you reach that age. In most US states the age of majority is 18. If you're under 18, you can't legally consent or agree to some things, like entering into a contract, or sex. This doesn't mean that minors who have sex are criminals, it just means its illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor (not getting into sex between 17 and 18 year olds). The post I was originally replying to seemed to minimize the danger of sexual predators online, and I think society has to keep its guard up about them.

    69. Re:Amazing by default+luser · · Score: 1

      "I figure juice is probably better than soda"

      I guess you didn't read the article I linked you to. Yes, take ou the obvious space, thank Slashdot for that beauty.

      Juice and soda have the same approximate amount of calories. You'd be better off eating the fruit equivalant anyway.

      * Eat more veggies
      * Lay off the simpler sugars / carbs
      * Drink water man. If you don't like water, the market feels your pain. You can get hundreds of things to flavor your water with that don't have sugar or caffene.

      READ THE DAMN NUTRITION LABELS, don't just assume something is good for you. Too much of any 'good' thing is bad...you know, like sucking down an entire gallon of juice in a day. IF you don't exercise regularly and heavily, shoot for the 2500 calorie diet. If you grossly exceed those numbers, you're going to gain weight.

      --

      Man is the animal that laughs.
      And occasionally whores for Karma.

    70. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      That is true. Many people are different online than in real life. Myself included. From my own experience though I know that the longer a person is open online the more open they'll get to be in person. Being honest and open online has led me to be much more so in real life. Confidence is something that takes practice. The Net can be a good way to build up that confidence.

      I'm still quiet a lot of the time (even online) but I feel able to say and do what I want when I want even in real life. Of course part of the reason I scare people is because I do say and do whatever pleases me. ;)

      The only thing that still impacts me as to making me more quiet in real life than online is that I like to think through what I'm saying before I say it. Online this comes natural as people usually don't see what your saying until you hit send or press enter or some such step. In real life I tend to think through what I'm saying before I say it and if it doesn't still have the desired meaning by the time I'm done thinking about it I just don't say it at all. Of course sometimes the conversation is linear enough that I can think what I'm going to say several steps ahead so that the conversation flows normally. I also have certain habits that are used mainly as distractions to how long it's taking me to answer.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    71. Re:Amazing by Drakonian · · Score: 1

      Caffine interferes with programming!?!? FWHAT! My blood is 99% caffiene!

      --
      Random is the New Order.
    72. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've known 13yo's more mature than some 40yo's but you're right that it's just a legal definition. I find it hard to get worked up over people who are only breaking the law (I break a dozen a day I'm sure) but sexual predators (preying on any age) of course are bad folks.

      Sure parents should watch their children and pay attention to what they are doing online but I hardly think that is a reason to worry that programs can be misused to prey on children. It's the parents job to keep an eye out and teach their children to watch out for themselves.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    73. Re:Amazing by skadacl · · Score: 1

      Well, Mike - it sounds like you either have extremely high standards for yourself, or you're suffering from some strange--well, I don't know what to call it. Gaining weight in spite of a healthy diet and regular excercise is not exactly-- healthy per se? If that's weight gained in fat rather than muscle mass though it's to be expected... otherwise you might think about looking up a doctor.

      It could be that you're suffering from a hormone imbalance... caused by some defect of your thyroid or one of the other mushy gooshy things stuck inside your body... I only know because my mom suffered from cancer of the thyroid. At times she ate such minor portions and excercised so much that I was seriously worried about her well-being; yet all the while she has stayed at a glandular 260lbs or there about. Anyway, just a thought, I would rather hope you just have high expectations. And if that, way to go - more of us need to whip ourselves into shape.

    74. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've lived on caffine for years. It got to the point of having severe ongoing effects. I had to drop it. Strange enough I'm slowly regaining myself and my programming ability is improving. I'd say caffine and alcohol in small doses can improve your coding but to much of a good thing and you'll be fried. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    75. Re:Amazing by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

      Geeks use differently technology but teenage girls talk incessantly on the phone.

      Thankfully since cellular phones have become more popular, nowadays there is less need to fight for little brothers to fight big sisters for the phoneline.

    76. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I assume it's just because I intake so many (nasty) liquids but it could be partly some sort of imbalance. Also it may be that all of my exercise is mostly of the legs, back, and arms so I still end up with something of a gut. Most of my exercise is informal.. just from daily tasks I do.. lots of lifting heavy objects and walking large distances. Still as you said most of us need to get whipped into shape.. it just takes effort. Some exercises I'm wary of because I have asthma and have to be careful of my breathing. Keeps me from doing jumping jacks or running and such. I like hiking and biking and swimming. Mountain climbing is fun but under full pack on a steep mountain it can be dangerous with the breathing. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    77. Re:Amazing by DougWebb · · Score: 1

      Green tea has a bit more in it than ground up leaves; there's all kinds of stuff western nutritionist haven't identified, patented, marked-up, and bottled yet. The decaffiniation process might wipe a lot of that stuff out, though.

      I think the soda brand is named Diet Rite; I don't have any in my fridge at the moment, so I can't check. It's available in New Jersey, but maybe not elsewhere.

      You might also check out the Atkins website; they've got a lot of products that are pretty good, though often pricey. Contrary to what most people believe about Atkins, the most beneficial aspect of the Atkins diet is cutting out the sugar and other carbs that cause insulin spikes. So the website sells lots of stuff that is low-glycemic, without really bad substitutes like Nutrasweet.

      No, I don't work for them or anything, I just read about nutrition a lot.

    78. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I love french fries.

      Freedom fries!

    79. Re:Amazing by licketyspit · · Score: 0

      hahaha!!! office space jokes never stop being funny.

    80. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drinking milk is about 9,000 times more healthy than drinking Mountain Dew.

    81. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I had to have 4-5 2 litters of Pepsi a day.

      I hope I'm misunderstanding, but I can only read this as you drinking 8 to 10 liters of Pepsi per day.

    82. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who thinks that you need to go clubbing to meet someone . . . I don't know anyone who met their wife/husband through Internet means, or at a club. It's topics and posts like these that make me want to go back to reading CNN for my tech news. . .At least there the saps can't post. Get a life. Go for a bike ride, go to the library and find a girl in the computer section, go meet some chick at Mills Fleet Farm, just don't spout off about girls having to meet people online. Please don't reproduce.

    83. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Too anti-fun and anti-social to even play online games.

      Why don't you just lawnmower-man yourself into your mainframe? Seems like your human body is just holding you back.

    84. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh really? Got data?

      Personally, I doubt it. Carbs are a hell of a lot more easily handled by the body than milkfat (pure saturated artery-clogging crud).

      Tell you what. I'll drink a Mountain Dew, and you drink 9000 x 12oz of milk. Then we'll see how you're doing.

    85. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we are all individuals

    86. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to thank you all for this interesting thread. It really opened my eyes to my, what I thought pretty healthy, eating habits.

      I've been thinking of going vegetarian for a while and have been cutting back on meat the last few years, but I've never been much aware of the two sides to the story of dairy products. I might go all the way and go vegan now :-)

      So, thanks again for the thread and the provided links. Very interesting.

      cheers,
      Erik

    87. Re:Amazing by klez23 · · Score: 1
      I don't like clubbing (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober)....

      Yeah, i do that for free! But seriously, if you don't have time to invest in meeting people, do you have time to get to know people once you've met? Being social is not a means to an end.

    88. Re:Amazing by klez23 · · Score: 1
      My resolution for this year is to become optimal.. which means cutting back on anything that impacts my mind or body in the negative.

      Man, reading what you've written (granted I don't know you at all), I'm a little concerned that you're extremely unforgiving of yourself, & don't allow yourself any enjoyment. I think that could impact your mind quite negatively. Really, it's ok to go to a café and talk to random strangers for an hour. You might even get new ideas that way! I know I'm more inspired when I interact with people at least semi-regularly. YMMV of course. Driving yourself hard is ok as long as you're not a sadistic taskmaster. Take care.

    89. Re:Amazing by Cruel+Angel · · Score: 1

      Though some people may find this comment to be funny, I'd vote for informative.

      Seriously, find the kids in your area. Not that any schools are likely to go W-Fi, but it looks like this would work on a local ISP. Not sure I'd let children use it.

      --
      Two Rules For Success:
      1) Never tell people everything you know.
    90. Re:Amazing by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      But would it be (+1, Creepy) or (-1, Creepy)? ;)

      --
      Centralization breaks the internet.
    91. Re:Amazing by Compact+Dick · · Score: 1
      I know MANY people that are over 20 that still don't understand the ramifications of having sex (espcially unprotected sex).

      So, what are the ramifications of having protected, safe sex? Just curious...
    92. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like clubbing (who can afford $50/night to try to pick up drunk women who won't like you when they are sober)

      That's the next morning, right? And your problem with this is....?

    93. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live to code and build cool things so anything that interferes with that is bad.. which includes drugs, alcohol, caffine, and women

      Trade potato(e)s and caffeine for Ecstacy and nightclubbing.

      GIv3 uS a WEEK and wE'll TAke OfF the WEIGHt!!!!!11!

    94. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you're really annoying.

      And you -do- have the social skills of a turnip.

    95. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...just like everyone else.

    96. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've had green tea. I just don't really like it. Not that I dislike it. Just sort of neutral. My sister eats green tea candy bars. I tried one once. Yick! ;)

      Ahh yeh I've had Diet Rite. I didn't realize they were doing anything different than everyone else.

      I usda have a boss on the Atkins diet. He ate like nothing but tuna. Was sort of gross. I am trying to cut out excess sugars and carbs without going THAT far. Trying to eat more healthier meats too. Roast chicken instead of fried pork and stuff like that.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    97. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      My sister is a vegan. I can tell you that honestly it has not helped her weight or made her healthier. I think moderation of everything probably makes more sense than cutting out a bunch of stuff and eatting more of the rest.

      Besides I've eatten her vegan meals and they are sort of disgusting. Have you ever tried to make and eat a pizza that can't have crust, cheese, or meats? Or Lasagna? I love vegtables and fruits but I couldn't give up all meat and dairy. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    98. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I figure time spent with those you care about is important. Time spent with total strangers really isn't. So I can make time for friends but not for Joe Schmoo off the street.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    99. Re:Amazing by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      True, but I don't think I'm THAT hard on myself. Besides I've only been at my current sadistic task a couple months. Before that I was sort of laidback about such things. I just found that nothing was the way I wanted it to be so now I'm going to make it so starting with myself and working my way through my list of gripes. Sometimes you have to be a sadistic taskmaster to get the end result you want. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    100. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sex burns calories... thus all is good.

  5. Missing Trepia Link by Kefabi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trepia link missing from article

    http://www.trepia.com/

    Or click here

    -Kefabi

    1. Re:Missing Trepia Link by tetsuji · · Score: 1

      What's so difficult about writing something like this in Java, so that Linux users can try it out?

  6. haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yea people might start realizing how cool their neighbors are...and also discover the ratio of hot to non hot people is horribe

  7. What ever happened by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To joining a gym to meet people who are interested in staying in shape, joining a book club to meet people who are interested in books, joining a tiddly winks club to meet people (OK sad individuals) interested in tiddly winks?

    Life is a lot more fun if you actually get out there and live it.

    --
    Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
    What truth?
    There is no dupe
    1. Re:What ever happened by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is different how? Joining a computer chat system to meet people interested in chatting on computers.

      It may not be the be all and end all of social interaction, but if people enjoy it, what's the problem?

      Goblin

      --
      It's all fun and games until a 200' robot dinosaur shows up and trashes Neo-Tokyo... Again
    2. Re:What ever happened by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 1

      You said "tiddly winks"
      hehe.

    3. Re:What ever happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spoken like a true extrovert.

    4. Re:What ever happened by krumms · · Score: 1

      How is this different? Using a chat system to find people who like to ... uh ... chat?

    5. Re:What ever happened by Timesprout · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with it, if you like online chatting by all means work away. Its just of my friends who chat I never ceased to amazed at how many are closet 18 year old nympettes looking for lesbian sex. What really staggers me is they dont mind getting their kicks with other '18 year old nympettes looking for lesbian sex'.

      Personally I prefer the human aspects that come with meeting people in the real world rether than online.

      Just as a side point thought there is increasing concern on the UK at the moment regarding this sort of service after the murder of two young girls. As another poster pointed out its sad when we have these concerns over what should be a fun service.

      --
      Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
      What truth?
      There is no dupe
    6. Re:What ever happened by mpe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To joining a gym to meet people who are interested in staying in shape, joining a book club to meet people who are interested in books, joining a tiddly winks club to meet people (OK sad individuals) interested in tiddly winks?

      Different things suit different people. Whilst for some joining some kind of activity club can be a good way to make new friends for others in can be a bad way.
      No doubt for every anecdote about XYZ activity having resulted in lots of friends or dating partners there is also one about only meeting people who were completly fanatical about XYZ.

    7. Re:What ever happened by infiniti99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think online chatting is a totally lame way to get to know someone, but these online "matchmaking" services can make it easier to locate people that you can meet in person. In fact, that looks like the whole point of Trepia.

      Meeting women or interesting folks in "in real life" is difficult. I agree that it is good to get out and find someone at the gym, but your chance of meeting someone worthwhile that way is very slim. As an earlier poster noted, people like me who have jobs where we are stuck at home or in a cubicle, and don't go to school, have a terrible time finding people. Online matchmaking can be a great way to fix this. My point, though, is that it is not a substitute for a relationship (the idea of an "online relationship" sounds lame to me), it is only a way of finding someone in the first place. Once you find someone, don't waste time with emails, arrange a date at the gym. ;-)

    8. Re:What ever happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but these online "matchmaking" services can make it easier to locate people that you can meet in person.

      As with any such service some can be better than others.
      A common problem with many appears to be the inability to do mutual matches. e.g. only finding people based on your criteria, without concern as it if you meet their criteria. Combined with the fact that you are using someone elses idea of what matching criteria are importent.

    9. Re:What ever happened by MKalus · · Score: 1

      This sports thing is WAAAAY overrated I tell you.

      At least if you try this Triathlon thing (hint: Don't).

      It seems all the women there are taken and there are still 2/3 guy's 1/3 women.

      Of course it is nice to "watch" but what good is it if in the end you can't touch?

      --
      If you want to e-mail me, use my PGP Key.
    10. Re:What ever happened by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      You might think its a lame way of getting to know someone but a lot of married folks who have affairs with folks they meet online reveal much more of themselves to their lovers than they ever have to their spouses.

      --
      Mac OS X and Windows XP working side by side to fight back the night.
    11. Re:What ever happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, women always bitch about guys hitting on them when they're just trying to work out. Women always bitch about guys hitting on them when they just want to talk about books. Women always bitch about guys hitting on them when they're just wanting a good match of tiddly winks.

      Life fucking sucks if you don't go through it as a blind oblivious moron.

    12. Re:What ever happened by mrogers · · Score: 1
      Just as a side point thought there is increasing concern on the UK at the moment regarding this sort of service after the murder of two young girls.

      However the person charged with their murder was their school caretaker, not someone they met online.

  8. Not for me.... by zoobaby · · Score: 1

    I really wouldn't want some IM client grabbing random/semi random people of similar interests. I think it will lead to another IM spam engine and more virii.

    1. Re:Not for me.... by spiny · · Score: 1

      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=virii

      No entry found for virii.

      1 suggestion found:

      viii

      For better results, try our search tips.

      ==

      gah! it's viruses. how many times .....

      --

      Fry: heh, Yakov Smirnoff said it
      Leela: No he didn't.
    2. Re:Not for me.... by henrygb · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Latin plural for virus would have been viri, but it wasn't used because the Latin for men was also viri (plural of vir). So reading the earlier post as "I think it will lead to another IM spam engine and more men " is possibly closer to the mark for most /. readers.

    3. Re:Not for me.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh. dont start this again. lol

  9. spam... by Daggie · · Score: 1

    This could have potentially revolutionary social effects...

    What a great new way to celibrate spam ...

    1. Re:spam... by Daggie · · Score: 1

      now it's proven, I'm slow :)

    2. Re:spam... by cioxx · · Score: 2, Funny
      What a great new way to celebrate spam...

      Don't be negative and think of the advantages. These said spammers would be within your WiFi range, which means you have the option of hunting down these idiots in the vicinity and beating them senselessly with an Aluminium Notebook for disturbance.
  10. Link to Trepia by i22y · · Score: 0, Redundant

    How about a fucking link to Trepia's site, as well as a way to download it?

    Why can't the submitter get it right...

    --
    Mike
    1. Re:Link to Trepia by unixbugs · · Score: 1

      This is Slashdot, not a democracy.

      --
      You are about to give someone a piece of your mind, something which you can ill afford...
    2. Re:Link to Trepia by i22y · · Score: 1

      Good point, sorry, I got lost.

      On another note, I downloaded it just now...

      I'm in Santa Barbara, CA, and somehow someone from New Zealand shows up as being close to me. Puzzling.

      --
      Mike
    3. Re:Link to Trepia by Bradee-oh! · · Score: 2, Funny

      And I'm in San Luis Obispo, CA and I don't see you online! :)

      --
      "This is Zombo Com, and welcome to you who have come to Zombo Com" - www.zombo.com
  11. High Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Minnesota native turned Silicon Valley entrepreneur thinks he's found a high-tech answer to an age-old question: "How do I find other people in my area who share my interests?"

    High tech dance music at a Hollywood club. You'll meet tons of beautiful people, and at least one that likes what you do.

  12. And all the fun of future litigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Apple has accidentally patented its revolutionary, absolutely necessary for mankind, iChat technology, these guys can be in for a nice crushing by the dogs of Steve.

  13. fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I have seen people use an analog-computational version of this software, it is quite amazing and fascinating.

    People will congregate in a room without computers, and visually scan each other. Using complex protocols that frankly I couldn't reverse engineer at the time, they come together and begin speaking. Not with VoIP or anything, they speak directly through the air, using a sort of discovery protocol by which they learn about each other's interests and capabilities. Amazing!

    I must learn more about this technology. Kudos to this inventor!

    And I'm glad he patented his novel technology, which is nothing at all like any of the many similar technologies that do the exact same thing.

    1. Re:fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK Mr. Moderator, drop the crack and step back...

  14. Too Few People? by Richardsonke1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, works very well...i'm in Cincinati, OH and it's giving me people in Washington and California. Maybe there's just no one on it except those ten people.

    --
    "Men lie."
    "Yeah, about sleeping with other women, but never about bioluminescent plankton."
    -Dan Brown
    1. Re:Too Few People? by Richardsonke1 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ah, from the email sent from Trepia when you sign up:
      Trepia works by first searching for other Trepia users who are near to you. If it can't find enough nearby people, it will keep on expanding its search to include more people. This way, you'll never have a shortage of interesting people to meet.
      So, I guess California and Washington were the closest people to Cincinnati, Ohio. But, lots of people are popping up now as this story goes live.
      --
      "Men lie."
      "Yeah, about sleeping with other women, but never about bioluminescent plankton."
      -Dan Brown
    2. Re:Too Few People? by dzym · · Score: 2, Funny
      Really. I'm in Illinois at the moment, and the software is listing a substantial amount of people in California, not to mention at least one from Denmark or so.

      They're by no stretch of the imagination anywhere near me... except perhaps in astronomical scale.

    3. Re:Too Few People? by nuclearsnake · · Score: 1

      Im in Montreal, and Im seeing London, Frankfurt, Melbourne, and the one guy from "Slashdot effect"
      I would be nice to know how many people there are in Total.. Im hopeing for more then the 34 in my "area"

      --
      See the forbiden post Here
    4. Re:Too Few People? by ramzak2k · · Score: 2, Funny

      and another interesting thing was that they were all Males ! ALL of em. all of you Slashdotters ? wait , let me ask one.

      --

      Siggy Say, Siggy Do
    5. Re:Too Few People? by snillfisk · · Score: 2, Funny

      What? All males? Can't be right.. I got this one as soon as i started:

      F/18
      Im into threesome, lesbian and oral sex. Anytime anywhere.

      trepia, here i come :>

      --
      mats
      One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
    6. Re:Too Few People? by Medgur · · Score: 1

      As of this writing I'm looking at a list of people near me... Including "goatse," who has a rather disturbing picture. Definitely a Slahdotter.

    7. Re:Too Few People? by jgerry · · Score: 1

      I'm in Atlanta, GA, and it shows no people there. That seems a little odd... I don't know how it determines how to rank your new potential 'buddies'... I can't empirically rate it, but qualitatively, I can say the matching pretty much sucks.

      No one on my list is anywhere near me, or has any similar interests. Brilliant.

    8. Re:Too Few People? by csteinle · · Score: 1

      Well, here in Edinburgh it finds people in Sydney. I don't think it could find someone much further away than that...

  15. WIDE open to abuse by spoco2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok... say a peadophile says that he is a '12 year old boy who likes sports' or similar... bingo... there's his list of boys in his area...

    Bad, bad idea.

    1. Re:WIDE open to abuse by fishbot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is a sad world, however, when it is necessary to judge a technological advancement by how it will be abused by perverts and child abusers.

      I'm not saying your comment isn't true, as it most certainly is. It's just a shame, that's all.

    2. Re:WIDE open to abuse by SolubleFrank · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they thought about that and...

      Don't worry about it guy. Everything will work out.
      Just marvel at the technology.

      --
      Feed me a stray cat.
    3. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Troed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... or, he could go down to the nearest school. Damn society, providing pedos with easy access like that.

      Seriously - give it up.

    4. Re:WIDE open to abuse by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 1

      WIDE open to abuse

      No pun intended right?

    5. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's bad because you wanted all those boys to yourself, right? ;)

    6. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, there needs to be some authentication. You should be able to prove your age and your sex, and then other clients will give out their information only if you can provide a valid certificate saying that you are twelve years old. Such certificates could be created by a PGP-style web of trust (but this is probably too complicated and too likely to go wrong) or by a central authority, like the government. (When you apply for a passport you're also given a diskette containing digital certs signed by the government saying your name, age, sex, possibly address - it's then your choice whether to use these certificates or just destroy the diskette.)

      This wouldn't avoid a 12-year-old using the software while a child molester looks over their shoulder, but at least it's a start.

      --
      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    7. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ok... say a peadophile says that he is a '12 year old boy who likes sports' or similar... bingo... there's his list of boys in his area...
      Sorry, this is pure FUD, unfortunately it seems to be catching on*.

      AOL has had a searchable member directory since at least 1994, and it's only become more powerful as the years went by. Anyone on AOL can go to the member directory, type in "phoenix student baseball" or "chicago [name of local junior high school]" or "nashville linkin park" and instantly wind up with a list of boys in their area. The search can further be refined to show only those users who are currently online. And AOL has a hell of a larger user base - thus a hell of a larger pool of 12 year old boys to find in any given area - than this software.

      Yes, there are weird and disgusting people out there. No, that doesn't mean the rest of us should be deprived of a useful tool.

      *The "but PERVERTS could use this!" red herring is showing up almost everywhere these days as supposed justification for stopping all sorts of things. Shut down P2P, there's some kiddie porn on it! Shut down Usenet, some pedophiles are using it! Pass more laws to protect my children, because I don't want to bother teaching them that some people in this world aren't nice!

      I put as much stock in this argument as I do in the "but TERRORISTS could use this!" argument. The vast majority of the people in the world are neither terrorists nor pedophiles and there's no reason that we should live our lives, make our laws, or restrict innovation under paranoid delusion of some relatively small group of people.
    8. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Naikrovek · · Score: 1

      you can't select an age under 16. don't talk about that which you do not know.

    9. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Naikrovek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      if you're 12 years old and your parents let you on the computer and internet without supervision, then nothing will get in the way of you getting into things you're not supposed to get into.

      technical solutions to non-technical problems will NEVER work.

    10. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Uart · · Score: 1

      that doesn't mean that 12 year olds won't select that they are 16 and place their real age somewhere else. Look at an online "dating" site - about 40% of the "18" year olds are really 16 year olds that couldn't select a younger age, but somewhere in their profile it will say that they are a soph in high school or it will state their real age.

      I use a mac, and therefore have no idea how this program works, so the above may be completely unfeasible; if so, please ignore me.

      --

      Opinionated Law Student Strikes Again!
    11. Re:WIDE open to abuse by PS-SCUD · · Score: 1

      The minimum age you can list is 16

      --


      "Much work is lost, for the lack of a little more." -Edward H. Harriman
    12. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the reality is that sexual interractions between young people and old "perverts" have been taking place since the dawn of time. In the past few thousand years however, we've decided that it's "wrong". Witness the greeks, "boy love" was a normal and accepted part of their society.

    13. Re:WIDE open to abuse by RobertFisher · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's reality.

      Every technological innovation since the stone age has had both positive and negative moral aspects, depending on how one uses it. Nuclear physics can be used to diagnose and treat disease (e.g., x-ray, MRI, radiation therapy) and generate electrical power to light up entire cities... or it can be used to obliterate more people in a second than all previous wars combined.

      The choice is yours.

      So it is not a shame... we must actively look at every innovation, and determine whether the net effect is negative or positive, and whether we wish to regulate its use in society. Cobalt 60 is a great radioative tracer isotope, and can be widely distributed without many negative side effects. The same cannot be said of Uranium 235.

      It is unclear how this new innovation will be used , on average. In an age where people are more widely spread apart, often without the commonality of religion and family, it can potentially bring people together into ad-hoc communities. And yes, it can also be used as a tool for stalkers and child molesters. If one significantly outweighs the other, then it will be a useful innovation. If not...

      --
      Science, like Nature, must also be tamed, with a view turned towards its preservation.
    14. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Timesprout · · Score: 1

      Exactly he's talking about a 'peadophile' and obviously the pod has to be open before you can get to the peas

      --
      Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
      What truth?
      There is no dupe
    15. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Bartmoss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course this differs from ICQ in what regard?

    16. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nonsense. Why should we take it for granted that 12-year-olds require supervision to use the Internet? They go to public libraries. I'd draw a distinction between deliberate acts like looking at 'bad' information (eg, pictures) and accidental acts like accidentally disclosing your location, getting your PC cracked, installing spyware not knowing what it did, and so on. The former probably can't be solved with technology, short of pressing the off switch, but the latter can and should.

      The particular problem here is that of privacy. If the software broadcasts your name and location to just anyone then the software is not trustworthy. OTOH, if the software has some means of controlling the distribution of that information then it might be okay to run it. (I'm sure there are plenty of holes in the particular system I suggested about verifying the identity of other users before telling them your age, but anyway.)

      Almost all interesting problems on the Internet are a mixture of technical and social. Take passwords for example. They can be socially engineered out of people, or read from sticky notes stuck to monitors. But still you should do all you can on the technical side to make them as secure as possible (eg, if they are random enough while still being easily memorized, perhaps people won't need to write them down).

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      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    17. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As with all technological advancements, there is a certain responsibility associated with it.
      It all comes in a package...the good and the bad.

      One can't help but think of the social implications, especially now with the technology advancing as fast, and becoming an intricate part of our everyday lives.

      You're right though, it is a shame ;)

    18. Re:WIDE open to abuse by davidhan · · Score: 1

      It would be irresponsible not to at least consider these possibilities.

    19. Re:WIDE open to abuse by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, they'll all meet up and realize every single one of them is a 40 year old pedophile, while all the real 12 year old boys are busy pretending to be 15-18 year olds.

      --

      If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
  16. I don't think so... by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    This could have potentially revolutionary social effects..."

    Japan and Korea have had pagers and phones that do this for some time now, and outside of an increase in accidental meetings at the mall, society has moved right along w/narry a related blip.

    Besides, when the x-wife gets within striking distance of my wallet, the hair goes up on the back of my neck, and I doubt I'm the only one with this kind of proximity alert. No news here....move along.

    1. Re:I don't think so... by mnemonic_ · · Score: 1

      Trepia actually had a major part in the first Russian Revolution.

    2. Re:I don't think so... by JCholewa · · Score: 1

      > Besides, when the x-wife gets within striking distance of my wallet,
      > the hair goes up on the back of my neck

      X-Wife? Telekinetic hair-raising powers? Is she one of those filthy mutants, or have I been watching too many Marvel 'toons lately?

      --
      -JC

  17. But will it take off...??? by danielrm26 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem with this sort of technology is that you must give it a decent amount of personal information before it can do its thing. Many are reluctant to give such information, and that fact alone could sink the whole thing.

    -danielrm26

    --
    dmiessler.com -- grep understanding knowledge
    1. Re:But will it take off...??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      ButterCarp: Location: I-35 South, lane 2, 18 miles north of Des Moines.

      ButterCarp: "Hey, GoldAcorn, stay in your own lane!"

  18. Hmmm by akpcep · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the interests of transparency and honesty I would set my interests as "hot chicks who like getting naked on cam".

    --
    Hmmm.
    1. Re:Hmmm by phaze3000 · · Score: 1

      I've seen similar results, I suspect that everywhere outside America is grouped together as 'other'..

      --
      Blaming GW Bush for the Iraq war is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the poor quality of food.
    2. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And just imagine the millions of others with the smiliar interests who you'll get to meet. ;)

    3. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever spins ya wheels... Personally, I prefer "hot chicks who like getting naked on ME".

    4. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the interests of transparency and honesty I would set my interests as "hot chicks who like getting naked on cam".

      Then it introduces you to poultry farmers...

    5. Re:Hmmm by thomasa · · Score: 1

      I get email from "hot chicks who like getting naked on cam" all the time.I got around 75 - this morning.

  19. Other possible implications... by C.Maggard · · Score: 1

    Not sure how rare/commonplace abductions that occur because of meeting someone over the internet are, but wouldn't this just facilitate it and make it a little bit easier to find someone you can just grab and run with?

  20. They don't need money by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They can just create an ADD ON for ICQ or AIM.

    Spider out the locations... People who want to use it will need to put their own location.

    If people don't want to use it, then people don't want it... And then no one needs to invest in your failure of an idea.

    1. Re:They don't need money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those networks dont want that. They just want to shovel adverts and get revenue. That is why no SDK for plugins exist, just hacking it. They are closed networks, that is the problem and spurs innovation unless it comes from THEM. I say the opensource community should just NOT use yahoo and msn and aol networks and make theyre own, they did it with IRC, why not IM? Make it open and so distributed that yahoo et all have to take notice. Do something about it. Dont rant on about being closed and using the defacto.

    2. Re:They don't need money by blibbleblobble · · Score: 1

      "They can just create an ADD ON for ICQ or AIM."

      Presumably you can have an IRC client which traceroute's everyone on the server and lists them by proximity (you already have the IP address in IRC, assuming nobody's upgraded to InvisibleNet IIP)

    3. Re:They don't need money by Tyreth · · Score: 1

      Just make it using the Jabber protocol, release the client as a "new" IM program with . Just don't mention mozilla.

      For all those that have an absurd bias against mozilla or netscape, then I just tell them about this great browser "firebird". It's just one way to get around their biases so they can give the technology the merit it deserves on it's own.

    4. Re:They don't need money by innerlimit · · Score: 1

      it is mentioned in the article that they need big investment bucks to reach a critical mass of users. at least posting the story to slashdot got them halfway!

    5. Re:They don't need money by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      AIM alreadly has an option for people to enter their location and interests and let other people search for them. Of course, probably no one enters that info. The only difference I see is this searches automatically.

      --
      Centralization breaks the internet.
  21. use and abuse by NilsK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like with any new technology one has not only got to ask what it can do for you but also what it can do against you. Though the possibilities of this Idea seem very charming for personal use there come up some questions:

    Isn't your stored profile a great way to track your movement? As well for "law enforcement" as for "clean his house of everything thats expensive" people?

    Won't the marketing guys just love to know, you are close to one of their shops and a young man? As you obviously using a computer you must be the target audience for Viagra.

    Like with every new network technology one has to be aware of what informations he gives out to almost everyone interested. Only having the advantages and the disadvantages in mind you can make a good decision on wether you want to use that software or not.

    Nils

    1. Re:use and abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Won't the marketing guys just love to know, you are close to one of their shops and a young man? As you obviously using a computer you must be the target audience for Viagra.
      If you think 50-year-old guys are young men, I deduce that you can only be Bob Hope. Ha! And you thought that hiding behind the name "Nils" would protect you!
    2. Re:use and abuse by Alsee · · Score: 1

      also what it can do against you.

      Nope, none of the things you list apply.

      First of all it only locates you to a general area, a city or county perhaps. So it's useless for fine-grained tracking.

      Secondly this thing does nothing to increase your "locatability". It uses already available information - your IP address. Try this website. Type in your IP address and wait while it works. It usually does a damn good job of locating you.

      Anyone who has your IP address can locate you. And your IP address is not "secret". Anyone you connect to online can see your IP address. If you have a direct connection, they have your IP.

      If you want to see the addresses of the whoever is currently connected to you just open a DOS window (assuming you're on Windows) and type NETSTAT -N. If you leave off the -N you will see the text version of their address rather than IP numbers.

      -

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    3. Re:use and abuse by kavau · · Score: 1
      As you obviously using a computer you must be the target audience for Viagra.

      Nope. Since you are desperate enough to try to meet people online, you probably don't have much use for Viagra.

  22. Just downloaded it. by Kefabi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay, just clicked on my own link, and downloaded the program.

    Got about 30 people on my list, 4 girls, 26 guys, little less than half with pictures.

    The list slowly gets bigger, as Trepia "finds" people close to me. Not a single one was in the same town as me, though a few were about 30-45 minute drives away.

    Apparently, the program uses your ip address and prolly trace to figure out how "close" you are to someone. I got a few people who are all the way across the US from me.

    It also claims that if you're on a 802.11b network, it'll automatically find other people on the same network as you, that might be running Trepia as well.

    Seems like a cool idea, but so far there needs to be way more people using it if you want to find someone down the street with it.

    1. Re:Just downloaded it. by cperciva · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The list slowly gets bigger, as Trepia "finds" people close to me. Not a single one was in the same town as me, though a few were about 30-45 minute drives away.

      Well, you're doing better than me. I'm in Oxford (UK); and I see people from Australia, California, Iowa, Arizona, and Quebec.

    2. Re:Just downloaded it. by sheol · · Score: 5, Funny

      [Connected] There are 41 people in your area.

      Male: 40
      Female: 1

      Something's wrong here.

    3. Re:Just downloaded it. by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is not as hot a party as I had anticipated - Apu

      --

      He painted a unicorn in outer space. I'm askin' ya, what's it breathin'?
    4. Re:Just downloaded it. by golgotha007 · · Score: 1

      perhaps the program uses the DNS "LOC" feature detailed in RFC1876,
      although i'm finding that most of the newer installed routers are missing this location information...

      perhaps it's using this as well as counting hops.

    5. Re:Just downloaded it. by JumperCable · · Score: 0

      Got about 30 people on my list, 4 girls, 26 guys

      And I suspect most of the 30 people you ran into were slashdotters who just downloaded the program.

    6. Re:Just downloaded it. by richy+freeway · · Score: 0

      I've had it running for about half an hour now. I have 38 people in the list, one is a girl I already know and she isn't even in the same country as me.

      Great product guys! Does nothing like what it says on the tin!

      Incidently I am in the UK and have people from all over the world being added to my list.

    7. Re:Just downloaded it. by basser · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is working...
      Maybe that blonde haired blue eyed californian vixen is actually the geek next door.

    8. Re:Just downloaded it. by John_Booty · · Score: 1

      Just my two cents: it's adding people from all over the world to my list. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia USA (on the East Coast for those not familiar with the US) and it's adding people to my list from Australia, Scandinavia, California.... etc.

      Another interesting note: I've got a few machines on my LAN. Installed it on machine #1. Then I installed it on machine #2 with a new account, different name, but with identical location information. The copy of Trepia running on machine #2 instantly saw the user I created on machine #1, but the copy of Trepia running on machine #1 never saw the user on machine #2. Also, I sent a message from machine #2 to machine #1, and it *just simply did not go through at all*.

      Hmmm, pretty lame. So it works pretty good for user #2 (hey, I'm turning on Trepia, who's around?) but not so good if you've already got it running and want to see who's popped into your area lately.... or if you *actually want to message somebody else*.

      Then I shut down Trepia on machine #1 to see if it would detect the Trepia user on machine #2 upon relaunch. Well, it can't log into the Trepia server. I guess they're Slashdotted. I wonder if that has anything to do with the crappy quality of the users found, and the non-functional chat... or if it just plain sucks, period.

      --

      OtakuBooty.com: Smart, funny, sexy nerds.
    9. Re:Just downloaded it. by LNN · · Score: 1

      Well, you're lucky. I'm on a Wi-Fi network here, but I must be dumb or something, because I managed to download and install the application without being connected to the Internet. At least, so Trepia tells me when trying to sign up.

      Anyone else experienced this? Can it be due to the nature of the NATed network I'm behind, or is it due to an evil firewall? I see no configuration options available in the app. That bothers me a little.

    10. Re:Just downloaded it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You live in Oxford and you need to look online, look out the window!
      Every time I go to Oxford I am amazed and the quanitiy and quality of Totty there.

    11. Re:Just downloaded it. by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      Does that one female happen to be yourself? :>

      --
      ^_^
    12. Re:Just downloaded it. by Mighty+LoPan · · Score: 1

      I'm getting the same thing. Apparently the world as we know it is a giant sausagefest.

    13. Re:Just downloaded it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they should rename it Sausage Link

    14. Re:Just downloaded it. by FosterSJC · · Score: 1

      This is funny. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia too. Lafayette Hill. Trepia found people in Lancaster, then tokyo and Austria. But hey, people talking and complaining about Trepia finds me someone in my own backyard. Drop me an email mysterious one from the suburbs.

    15. Re:Just downloaded it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be so quick to scorn. I knew this chick from Iowa that seriously put out.

    16. Re:Just downloaded it. by John_Booty · · Score: 1

      This is funny. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia too. Lafayette Hill. Trepia found people in Lancaster, then tokyo and Austria. But hey, people talking and complaining about Trepia finds me someone in my own backyard. Drop me an email mysterious one from the suburbs.

      Or I could just move to Antarctica so that you'd show up on my Trepia buddy list! :P

      --

      OtakuBooty.com: Smart, funny, sexy nerds.
    17. Re:Just downloaded it. by John_Booty · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think this thing depends HIGHLY on how accurately it can place your ISP. At home my ISP is Speakeasy, so that would explain the US West Coast results I was getting since I *believe* Speakeasy is headquartered in the Pac NW.

      Here at work (still in the Philly suburbs) it's giving me results from Illinois. I think it thinks I'm in Chicago, since that's where our ISP is headquarted.

      In short this thing is utter rubbish in most cases... You think it would check my friggin' zipcode or something and make a slightly more intelligent stab at my location...

      --

      OtakuBooty.com: Smart, funny, sexy nerds.
    18. Re:Just downloaded it. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      I am guessing firewall issues. If you have a Linksys router between you and the Internet you are effectively a black hole in the ocean. I could be wrong, though - just guessing.

      --
      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    19. Re:Just downloaded it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't bitch. Airline tickets are cheap. Go meet them!

    20. Re:Just downloaded it. by dspyder · · Score: 1

      Nope, seems to be working just fine.... :)

      --D

    21. Re:Just downloaded it. by Albigg · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but think about that poor chick. She's getting tons of tells!

    22. Re:Just downloaded it. by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      You are wrong. I'm on a dialup DUN connection, Windows XP, no firewall, and it says i'm "not connected to the internet". Pah.

    23. Re:Just downloaded it. by mrogers · · Score: 1
      Just my two cents: it's adding people from all over the world to my list. I live in a suburb of Philadelphia USA (on the East Coast for those not familiar with the US) and it's adding people to my list from Australia, Scandinavia, California.... etc.

      I wonder if this is what's meant by 'progressive proximity search'? Maybe if it can't find anyone close to you then it gradually widens the search until it finds a mimimum number of people.

    24. Re:Just downloaded it. by dan+dan+the+dna+man · · Score: 1

      I am in Oxford (UK) too, and it doesn't even think I'm connected to the internet. I clealy am as I can use my other IM clients perfectly happily :/ /me bins trepia

      --
      I don't read your sig, why do you read mine?
    25. Re:Just downloaded it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, the program uses your ip address and prolly trace to figure out how "close" you are to someone. I got a few people who are all the way across the US from me.

      Retarded.... haven't they ever heard of ZIP CODES???

    26. Re:Just downloaded it. by Fuyu · · Score: 1

      [Connected] There are 32 people in your area.

      Male: 32
      Female: 0

      People from PA: 2
      People from other states: 28
      People from other countries: 2

    27. Re:Just downloaded it. by McMac · · Score: 1


      Well, what would you know. So am I. I wonder how many slashdot readers there are in Oxford... An interesting thing might be to create a geographical slashdot user density map. I'd like to see that :)
      </trivial>

      -McMac.

  23. Scary by Iron+Monkey543 · · Score: 1

    So if two Trepia-using college students who share a passion for the "Matrix" movies and the "Smallville" TV show are on the same campuswide network, they can electronically see each other. They are able to swap text messages and, soon, physically meet.

    I dunno yall, but swapping messages on goatse.cx with the guy in the next dorm.......

  24. irc? by odyrithm · · Score: 1

    in a way.. irc has been doing this for some time.

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    moo
  25. great by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't wait to use this to meet linux booth babes, I just hope they don't end up being 17 year old slashdot trolls.

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    1. Re:great by odyrithm · · Score: 1

      speech ! speach ;)

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      moo
    2. Re:great by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 1

      Quoth the article: "If she's within range of public Wi-Fi wireless networks, Trepia also trolls those."

      So apparently, the software automatically posts provocative comments on politics, religion and the GPL?

      Or did they mean *trawls*?

      --
      - Oliver

      The right to bear arms is only slightly less stupid than the right to arm bears...
  26. Hi! by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I see that we share the same interests! Fast cars! ....would you like to buy me a Corvette?

    How about sharing that pizza you just bought? Can I sell you some magazine subscriptions? Would you like to see a vacuum cleaner demonstration? Can I interest you in some stocks and bonds? Do you want to lose weight while sleeping? Were you born with a too small unit? Do you need your lawn mowed? Can you give me ride to work? Can you give me a job? Can you give me money?

  27. The war on drugs has failed by cperciva · · Score: 5, Funny

    When a company claims being "on crack" as a major advantage, I think it's clear that the US war on drugs has failed miserably.

    1. Re:The war on drugs has failed by vistic · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...it's like 60 Minutes on acid.

    2. Re:The war on drugs has failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A war on drugs cannot be won. Get away from the idea that everything must be embroiled in conflict and progress can be made.

    3. Re:The war on drugs has failed by nametaken · · Score: 1

      I was going to liken it to ICQ on quaaludes.

    4. Re:The war on drugs has failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if people fucking laughed at jokes we would have less problems in the world.

  28. people around you by Pflipp · · Score: 1

    So now I finally get to talk with people I meet, or that are just a door away to visit? Seems useful to me :-)

    --
    "We can confirm that Debian does *not* ship the version with the trojan horse. Our version predates it." [CA-2002-28]
  29. More people? by SonicTooth · · Score: 1

    Frankly i don't want more people on my buddy list. I keep it small, so that its only people i talk to regularly.

    Its a cool idea, but only for people who need to chat, instead of using im'ing as a method of communication.

  30. Poor ladies by ahoehn · · Score: 3, Funny

    To all the ladies on Trepia who are about to be inundated with indecent propositions from me and my fellow slashdot geeks; I apologize in advance.

    --
    Mod my comments down. It'll be fun.
    1. Re:Poor ladies by ptarjan · · Score: 1

      Step 1: Pick up a hot bisexual girl who is really a 48 year old biker Step 2: ???? Step 3: Profit! P.S. The bisexual part was right....

    2. Re:Poor ladies by porkface · · Score: 1

      You just skipped the friend zone...

      straight into the doormat zone!

    3. Re:Poor ladies by Shelle · · Score: 1

      What about the ladies who are slashdot geeks?

    4. Re:Poor ladies by kikta · · Score: 1

      "To all the ladies on Trepia..."

      Yeah, he's talking to both of you.

    5. Re:Poor ladies by ahoehn · · Score: 1

      It's a lie, there are none.

      --
      Mod my comments down. It'll be fun.
    6. Re:Poor ladies by dacetone · · Score: 1

      It's a lie, there are none.

      Ay! What about me??

      --
      Just follow the day, and reach fo
  31. You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    like any good old IRC network? Enter a random channel... at least you'll have a vaguely common topic to talk about.

  32. I'm on the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because I don't like other people... well, talking to them in person or on the phone anyway. I don't want to find people near me, they may want to get together. Why must people try to force this "Socialization" thing on me? Why are all these people protesting globalization when socialization is the real menace?

  33. Hmm... by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just downloaded it, registered, looked around it for a little bit and then uninstalled it.

    Does that make me anti-social?

    1. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I downloaded it, installed it, then tried to register an account but the application insists that I am 'currently not connected to the internet' which is bollox. So I thought perhaps it's a common problem with their software and I'll look in the support forums - which don't exist. The Trepia website is practically a wasteland void of useful content.

    2. Re:Hmm... by visualight · · Score: 1

      I downloaded it, installed with crossover office but when I click on it, nothing happens. Any windows users know if it uses ie for anything?

      --
      Samsung took back my unlocked bootloader because Google wants me to rent movies. They're both evil.
    3. Re:Hmm... by Biogenesis · · Score: 1

      hmm, i got a 'cannot execute binary file' error. not an ELF is it?

    4. Re:Hmm... by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

      Same here. Are you using a modem or something? I'm on 56k, so it might not like DUN or . . . well who knows. Or maybe it's pissed because I have ICQ active.

    5. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My friend, I think posting on Slashdot asking about being anti-social requires a "Redundant" mod ;)

    6. Re:Hmm... by praedor · · Score: 1

      That little anti-social episode has put you on Asscrack's...err, ASHCROFT's watch list as a potential terrorist. You are obviously a disgruntled american and just THIS close to having your citizenship revoked so you can be held indefinitely and brutalized.


      Was your little anti-social foray with the latest software toy worth it? Hmmm?


      PS...if you aren't 'mericun you are most certainly on a watch list now.

      --
      In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
  34. Well by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1

    This could have potentially revolutionary social effects...

    Or, no-one could care less. If it doesn't get downloaded, installed, etc, on a lot of computers, the social effects are going to be pretty insignificant.

    --


    He tried to kill me with a forklift!
  35. Well what? by unixbugs · · Score: 1

    This is as close as we can get to NOT having AOL invade our lives to meet some wierd mutant in our area that shares the same interest... not that I've used either.

    Of course some people are going to have bad things to say about this, but the fact of the matter is: if Apple can deliver content, why criticize. I can think of few other large scale ISPs and OEMs that can't do what this is promising without signing away your soul.

    --
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  36. Revoltion? by lateralus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I walk outside I rarely ever get excited or even mildly interested in the fact that numerous other people are in my vicinity. In fact the trend in highly populated cities is to ignore your neighbors.

    I think that it was Cliff Stoll who said that computers make us disconnect from our neighbors and families. This software facilitates a society where everyone knows each other without actually having met.

    I can imagine a cafe with several people chatting, only every one of them is looking into his/her computer screen utterly oblivious that they are chatting with the person beside them.

    "Software for shy people - We make you new friends... so YOU don't have to!"

    Rant over and out. I have to answer someone on IRC...

    --
    If you outlaw the law, only criminals will have laws
    1. Re:Revoltion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People in the city ignore their neighbors becuase there are enough people in the city that you can choose who you want to hang out with you aren't forced to be friendly with your neighbors just because they live near you.

      Besides if you know all your neighbors when ever you go down to the corner bodega to get a coffee it would take 20 minutes becaus you would have to stop and say hi to every asshole you run into.

      I mean sure there are some people who enjoy that kind of thing but most people are to busy to have to stop and chat with a bunch of bozos every morning simply because they live near each other.

      Sure people in the city are "rude" and don't have idle chitter chatter with neighbors, store clerks, etc. Well I for one like it that way and it seems like about 8.5 million other people in this city seem to agree.

    2. Re:Revoltion? by lateralus · · Score: 1

      "People are stupid and dangerous, stay away from them as much as possible." --Henry Rollins.

      "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded" --Yogi Berra.

      People who use the Internet all day long and even take an Internet device with them to the nearest coffee shop are:

      1. People who love to meet other people face to face.
      2. People who like to keep the Internet as a buffer of selectivity and anonymity.

      Two different crowds.

      I don't know personally any of you slashdot people and I'm perfectly fine with that. If fact I like it that way. It's like voting, you get to voice your opinion without giving away your identity.

      --
      If you outlaw the law, only criminals will have laws
    3. Re:Revoltion? by bgarrett · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Cliff Stoll assumes that one's neighbors and family are interesting, desirable or safe to be around. This is not always the case.

      Try living in a small town where your closest (within 5 miles) neighbors are "salt of the land" farmers and look down on you as some sort of budding Satanist, or even better, some large city like Washington, D.C. where you are only a block away from a permanently-stationed police car and people who walk around with planks of wood with nails driven through them, looking unpleasant.

      After those experiences, I welcome anything that provides me with a little more "compatible" socialization, even if it's over a computer.

      --
      Nothing worth doing is worth doing today.
    4. Re:Revoltion? by duggy_92127 · · Score: 1

      I think the point here it not to hook you up with local people so you can chat with them, but so you can MEET them.

      For example, I live in an apartment building, and almost never see the other people on my own floor, not to mention the floors below me or the buildings around me. The desired use case is for me to fire up this program and "discover" that a guy just one building over also likes building model airplanes, or 5-6 people in the complex all watch Smallville every week... so we can gather together, in person, and do these things together.

      When considering new technology, I always try to imagine a super-advanced version and how it would work. In this case, imagine that we could all just know some basic information about the people around us, just by looking at them. You might walk into a bar with some friends to have a beer, and glance around the room, and see a woman who also runs Linux and re-builds old cars, JUST LIKE YOU! So you walk over and strike up a conversation.

      That would be cool.

      Doug

    5. Re:Revoltion? by lysium · · Score: 1
      Cliff Stoll also assumes that it was not like this before computers; that it is not just plain information overload. People don't meet in the subways of NYC, generally speaking because there are just too many people around. You can commute to work at precisely the same time every day and never see a familiar face. Why bother acknowledging someone's existence if you will assuredly NEVER see them again?

      No, computers add sanity and connectivity to schizoid modern (both rural and urban) life.

      --
      Together, we will drive the rats from the tundra.
    6. Re:Revoltion? by malex23 · · Score: 1
      I think that it was Cliff Stoll who said that computers make us disconnect from our neighbors and families. This software facilitates a society where everyone knows each other without actually having met.

      I think you're describing the current situation (chatrooms, IM, Slashdot...) What this project and others like it are apparently trying to do is reverse that trend and make the Internet a tool for facilitating real world Meat-Space interaction.

      The isolationism between neighbors in urban America has existed well before the mass adoption of the Internet. Any tool that helps counter that, even if just to tell me who else in my cafe reads Eco or if anyone on my block can loan me a belt sander, has the potential of indeed being revolutionary.

  37. id10T by delusrexpert · · Score: 1

    im going to add idiots to my list so then i can avoid them.

    1. Re:id10T by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 1

      You might start with delusrexpert@hotmail.com.

  38. Bullshit locator by GoRK · · Score: 1

    This application must use some seriously whacked pseudoscience to do its geolocation, which is why it doesnt work at all. I don't think its hit a single person within 250 miles of me and im smack in the center of the damn US. A little window where people could click on a map or enter a postal code would be better -the first three digits even for those who will scream out about privacy BS- then narrow the search with the IP/traceroute based crapola). Maybe that would work a little bit at least

    1. Re:Bullshit locator by shivianzealot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't think its hit a single person within 250 miles of me and im smack in the center of the damn US.

      I think I found your problem...

      --

      Bored with karma, be a fan/freak

    2. Re:Bullshit locator by mpe · · Score: 1

      I don't think its hit a single person within 250 miles of me and im smack in the center of the damn US. A little window where people could click on a map or enter a postal code would be better -the first three digits even for those who will scream out about privacy BS- then narrow the search with the IP/traceroute based crapola).

      They could even be original and use latitude and longitude. But even then you'd need a quite extensive geographic database to work out which other users were meaningfully close to you.

    3. Re:Bullshit locator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if people would actually get the whole point of this software, and list where they really are located, this would work. Some Einsteins are leaving the location field entirely blank, or entering 'College' or 'home'.

    4. Re:Bullshit locator by GoRK · · Score: 1

      except that this field seems to have nothing to do with how it locates you with respect to others proximity - their own site seems to indicate that the location works so well that you can specify which table at the coffee shop you are sitting at so that someone can come over and say "hi."

    5. Re:Bullshit locator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.zipmath.com

      i've had to work with their code personaly, and trust me, it blows. frivolous use of goto, bad, and in some instances downright incorrent documentation, comments that consist of apologies and smileys...

      i trashed their code, and wrote a subroutine to upload their zipcode->lat/long database into a SQL server. faster, more reliable, more versatile.

      when i first heard of this IM service, i figured they did the same thing... guess not. mebbe the guys hiring... ;)

  39. registering ? by Daggie · · Score: 1

    Any Euro people who succeeded in registering ? Coz I'm not ...

    And i'm quite sure some people live in my neighbourhood ...

    1. Re:registering ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got it working ( from Finland ) but it looks like only ppl it shows to me are from Australia or US. Working, not working, working, not working

    2. Re:registering ? by Daggie · · Score: 1

      Well it kept "registering" all the time untill I got back with coffee ... Thus it's uninstalled. I didn't really expect any people from Belgium on it tbh.

      But for v2.0 I at least expected I could register ...

    3. Re:registering ? by S.+Bolle · · Score: 1

      Really weird indeed, I got the same thing here. As I suppose no specific ports need to be open, they're probably allowing specific ip ranges only to keep the load down a little until it settles off.

      They might well mention this somewhere, though.

    4. Re:registering ? by fczuardi · · Score: 1

      Same problem here (Brazil).

  40. Maybe I'm missing something by DHR · · Score: 1

    But it just told me someone 2,000 miles away was "close to me"

    1. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it works on a universal scale. You're within the same galaxy as a person, therefore you're "close" to them.

  41. If Only... by cjsnell · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only the girls you'll meet with this software would look like this screenshot at Trepia.com. I subscribed to Match.com once. I know better. :)

    1. Re:If Only... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      I think this picture might give you some better quality pics of those 'ideal scenario' females :-)

    2. Re:If Only... by malia8888 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I met two very charming people in Match.com. They have remained friends of mine for over 3-4 years each. The experience was very positive. I didn't fine my soulmate that way; however, I met some really nice people.

      Perhaps Trepia can work as a positive social tool as well. And, it is that, it is just a tool like a telephone or anything else. If it is used with common sense it will provide a positive outcome.

      --
      Harpo Tunnel Syndrome--my wrist feels funny.
    3. Re:If Only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:If Only... by Tyreth · · Score: 1

      Wow, more females than males on the list? It's not accurately reflecting the experiences slashdotters have reported so far :)

      Though this is not really a surprise, women in general don't try technology before the mostly male dominated geek community does. Excepting, of course, MSN :)

    5. Re:If Only... by sacrilicious · · Score: 1
      >I didn't fine my soulmate

      Yeah, I hear ya. Sometimes those things don't work out quite as well as we'd wish. Gee, it seems that you and I have a lot in common... both single, both open to the notion of meeting that special someone, neither of us busy this Friday night, you love paying for meals and I love having them paid for. Just as long as you don't think I'd owe you anything for the meal. And we don't have to get sexual or anything. Unless that's what you want. Is that what you want? Because I can do that. Oy, the headgames and the stress. You know, this just isn't working out. Can we be friends?

      --
      - First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
  42. SARS by heppe · · Score: 1

    Couldn't this be used to help contain sars? I mean, keeping track of who came in close contact with whom is the hardest part

  43. Back to the roots by Kopretinka · · Score: 1
    We're creating new technologies to allow us to see our neighbours (in whatever sense). It reminds me of wells in the centres of village, where neighbours getting water would gather and chat.

    This shows the underlying stuff (the internet) seems to be ready for the society. Good. Personal flesh-to-flesh meetings are not strictly necessary, but meeting people is important.

    --
    Yesterday was the time to do it right. Are we having a REVOLUTION yet?
  44. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol

  45. Protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those wondering about the protocol, it's plain text.. here's an example:

    <O><a>4114</a>
    <p>Nashua, NH</p>
    <b>1054625922</b><d>iarwain</d&g t;
    <m>31</m>
    <n>M</n>
    <g>Brian</g>
    <h>Chabot</ h>
    <o>System Administrator, IT Consultant, and manager for hire</o>
    <e>brian@datasquire.net</e>
    <i></i>
    <j >iarwain1</j>
    <k>iarwain@hotmail.com</k>
    <l>iarw ain1</l>
    <f>http://www.hirebrian.net</f>
    <r>USA< /r>
    <s>NH</s>
    <t>Nashua</t>
    <u>English, some French</u>
    <v></v>
    <w>Hire me!</w>
    </O>

    Sorry to whoever this is :P

    1. Re:Protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ok, this application sucks.. passwords are PLAIN TEXT TOO! Couldn't they have at least implemented some sort of challenge/response method?

    2. Re:Protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have you spoofed yours yet and become another user?
      funny how they think this works and all.

  46. this is ridiculous by leekwen · · Score: 5, Informative

    i have no way of removing people off of my list.

    and isn't it the idea to get people who are close to me? i'm in burnaby bc and i was getting people in ohio, california, new zealand... nobody at least within my own country. it was also making this god awful takka takka takka noise while doing it.

    "hi where are you from? are you physically near me?"
    "i doubt it, where are you?"
    "burnaby, bc"
    "yeah definitely in the area.. new zealand LOL!"

    i'm doubting this program does anything at all, just kind of pretends it does.

    1. Re:this is ridiculous by Biogenesis · · Score: 1

      maybe that person was just the closest it could bother seeing?

    2. Re:this is ridiculous by tchueh · · Score: 1

      if it's any consolation... I'm from burnaby too.

    3. Re:this is ridiculous by donglekey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm in downtown, near sunset beach. Maybe slashdot works better?

    4. Re:this is ridiculous by jonearth · · Score: 1

      good.. At least they are on the same planet

    5. Re:this is ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From their web page: "Trepia searches from the inside out, and will add people who are farther away if it can't find anyone local to you. People closest to you will be added first." With only 6000 users worldwide, ya gotta expect some distance here.

    6. Re:this is ridiculous by praedor · · Score: 1

      Hey, on the internet aren't we ALL just as close as a few keystrokes? It's working as designed, don't worry about it.

      --
      In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
    7. Re:this is ridiculous by SlightlyMadman · · Score: 1

      A/S/L? KTHXBY!

      --

      Money I owe, money-iy-ay
    8. Re:this is ridiculous by SlashSim · · Score: 1

      Broadway and Main, yep.

      --
      If the only tool you have is a hammer, you'd better start looking for a carpentry job.
  47. Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey it only runs on Windows. Who uses that?

  48. What happened? by shmuc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you notice, the installer obviously uses nullsoft's NSIS, but they recompiled it, and changed the banner at the bottom to "Trepia, Inc.". Isn't that a breech of GPL or whatever license NSIS is out under?

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    1. Re:What happened? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Isn't that a breech of GPL or whatever license NSIS is out under?
      The following is the license included with NSIS 2.0b3, it would appear that term #1 allows you to redistribute an installer without mentioning that it's really NSIS. Seems as though you only have to include the initial copyright if you distribute a modified copy of the source:
      Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Nullsoft, Inc.

      This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
      warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages
      arising from the use of this software.

      Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,
      including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it
      freely, subject to the following restrictions:

      1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not
      claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software
      in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be
      appreciated but is not required.
      2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
      misrepresented as being the original software.
      3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.
    2. Re:What happened? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No, NSIS has a configuration that lets you do that.

      It's not GPLd anyway!

  49. Hmmm by saqmaster · · Score: 1


    Well, I don't think much of their patented algorithm. It seems to think that my local people are in America, Iceland and South Africa.

    Unfortuately, i'm in London UK. Great.

    --
    "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story..."
  50. My prediction; by jericho4.0 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I think that soon, this class of networking will become the next 'killer app'. Location based information is inherently valuable to people. Where am I? Who's near me? Where can a guy get a drink around here?

    What's the average amount of rainfall in this area? Median income? Most popular car? Hippest nightclub? Closest park? Nearest bathroom? Closest 24-36-24 blonde with a love of C templates?

    The range of applications in this field is _huge_. Almost all of the pieces are here (GPS, ipv6, web services, wireless), we just need to fit them together.

    --
    "A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
    1. Re:My prediction; by LoztInSpace · · Score: 1

      24-36-24? Whoh!

    2. Re:My prediction; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thehehehe

      i was lik o0000o what is that!! she must look like a () <-- ! or worse.

      oo
      /\
      -| |-
      \/
      /\

    3. Re:My prediction; by Doctor+O · · Score: 1
      Closest 24-36-24 blonde with a love of C templates?

      Shouldn't that read C cups?

      --
      Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
    4. Re:My prediction; by quick_dry_3 · · Score: 1
      'Closest 24-36-24 blonde'

      methinks you may be dissappointed with the response...

    5. Re:My prediction; by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 1

      I thought it was 26-34-26, and only if she's 5'3".

      --
      bananas like monkeys.
    6. Re:My prediction; by Daniel+Boisvert · · Score: 1

      I thought it was 26-34-26, and only if she's 5'3".

      ...that would be *36-24-36*, and only if she's 5'3"...assuming we're talking about the same song :) (Sir Mix-a-lot, Baby Got Back)

      Just to clear this up, women's measurements are expressed in inches (well, I've never heard them referred to in metric, but I'm an American imperialist pig-dog :), and they are expressed using the following format:

      [bust]-[waist]-[hips]
      eg: 36-24-36

      Occasionally you'll see the cup size expressed as well, and that is expressed in the following fashion:

      [bust][cupsize]-[waist]-[hips]
      eg: 36D-24-36

      Now you may be interested in a woman whose waist is 8 inches larger than her bust or hip measurements, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a (legal) woman with only 26 inch hips or bust.

      If you want to get really good at estimating these things, you could probably take up tailoring. I'm a ballroom/latin/swing dancer/teacher, and got to be really good at estimating these things after measuring students for costumes for various performances (my partner is a seamstress/tailor).

      It's amazing how few women these days know how to take accurate measurements--especially women in the 18-25 year old age bracket. They don't seem to understand the importance either, until it's too late. A 1 or 2 inch difference in one direction or the other can mean that a costume will either cut off circulation or fall right off...

    7. Re:My prediction; by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Location based information is inherently valuable to people.

      And even more valuable to those who wish to jam ever more intrusive ads down our collective throats, in an attempt to sell us crap we don't need, and didn't even know we wanted.

    8. Re:My prediction; by Eminence · · Score: 1
      Location based information is inherently valuable to people.

      I see this line used for various Location Based Services in the cellular world and so far I have only seen stupid or useless implementations.

      For example finding nearest cinema is useless because I don't go to the movies based on what theatre is closest to me when the thought strikes. In my city I know where most of them are, in another city a street address is useless - even if the phone tells me it is nearby - because I don't know how to get there (I would have to ask somebody anyway).

      Same applies to bars. One would have to be a really hard-pressed alcoholic to actually urgently need directions to the closest open bar. I do go to bars for a few drinks with friends but we tend to choose places we know.

      And both are real examples of LBS applications that my GSM operator introduced with much hype (ads in TV, on billboards etc.).

      I have seen a proposal by one system integrator for a system that would allow a subscriber to get information about location of other subscribers - for example members of family or employees. However, implementing a system that would allow husbands to spy on wives using cellphones raised serious legal doubts and the proposal was rejected.

      I suspect that location based information is not useful to people as it is to authorities. Especially if coupled with logging and some statistical analysis.

    9. Re:My prediction; by OrangeGoo · · Score: 1

      I *think* that what you're looking for is the HHGTTG...

    10. Re:My prediction; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a loser. The stupid poster hasn't even touched a real life woman before and obviously doesn't know women's measurements so why are you bothering to reply. You're almost on the same loser level as him. LOL.

    11. Re:My prediction; by MrBId · · Score: 0

      d00d
      maybe hes into that shit...
      you never know....

    12. Re:My prediction; by faring · · Score: 1

      For example finding nearest cinema is useless because I don't go to the movies based on what theatre is closest to me when the thought strikes. In my city I know where most of them are, in another city a street address is useless - even if the phone tells me it is nearby - because I don't know how to get there (I would have to ask somebody anyway).

      Same applies to bars. One would have to be a really hard-pressed alcoholic to actually urgently need directions to the closest open bar. I do go to bars for a few drinks with friends but we tend to choose places we know.


      OK, those aren't the most useful apps, but the could be with a little help. For instance, if the cinema listing then used my location to generate directions, that would be quite useful.

      While I rarely need the absolute closest bar, being able to find everything within two blocks, along with a quick blurb about what type of bar/club it is would be great for bar-hopping in a differnt town, or even unfamiliar local areas (At least while I'm still coherent enough to work the phone/PDA). Directions would be useful here too. Same kind of thing would work for restraunts too.

    13. Re:My prediction; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      24-36-24: The number of polygons used to show the woman. Apparently he likes a woman with a six-pack.

    14. Re:My prediction; by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 1

      well yes.. it was a joke and I was going purely on trying to remember the song at early in the morning, not thinking about what the numbers meant. You're right though (and I do know what the measurements mean)

      --
      bananas like monkeys.
  51. Neat stuff. by HornyBastard77 · · Score: 1

    Donno about the people complaining that its only showing up users who aren't regional at all, a lot (about 30%)of people on my list ARE around where I am. The article says that they only have about 6000 registered users currently, so I would assume that as this userbase grows the results would be more and more regional. The slashdotting should help, if their server can take it that is. Now if Kazaa or eDonkey had something like this. I wouldn't have to spend hours downloading stuff. Would just walk across the street to someone who has it and copy it.

  52. Pimpin' revolution by forgoil · · Score: 0, Troll

    This must be a huge improvement for pimps. Just buy your hoes a device and put in all her specialities. Much easier to find customers.

    I can see it before me, geeky men in dimly lit appartments trying to disturb the other cyber pimp's hoes connections.

    Heck, you could even make a movie out of this;)

  53. Want to get together and talk about it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  54. I just downloaded Trepia and got... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    "You are currently not connected to the Internet. Please take the appropriate steps and try again."

    Oh well, I guess that means I won't be able to post this. Wonderful technology!!

    1. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by knewman · · Score: 1

      I had the same problem. Some kind of firewall/ ports issue? or just crappy software?

    2. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Just crappy software I think. I've tried with 2 decent dialup ISPs, and no luck, so it's very unlikely to be a ports blocking problem. I use no firewall, and connect in a very standard way, using Windows dial-up networking. It pops up the error message so instantaneously that it doesn't even seem to be *trying* to connect to the internet. In fact if I didn't know better, I'd say this was just a quick mock-up of a program done in VB, whose internet code hadn't been written yet!

    3. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've loaded it onto two computers on my home network. On my XP machine it runs fine; on my 98 machine it says "not connected to the internet". Both machines are connected to the same (and only) router.

    4. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by ViVeLaMe · · Score: 2, Informative

      seems to be a problem relative to 98, 'cuz i tried it here on a box connected via cable (DHCP, ethernet), and it kept telling me i wasn't connected to the internet.. :-)

      --
      i had a sig, once..
    5. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by NEOGEOman · · Score: 1

      It doesn't work for me either, running XP and no firewall, using PPPoE and an NTT fiber modem. No common thread I'm seeing...

    6. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same issue. I'm dial-up from an ME box (what can I say, I'm at the folks') via windows networking, with very minimal system protections.

      Very strange. I wonder if its a matter of other software running causing a dependency issue. I'm going to try to close down to the bare minimum for when I install.

    7. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      98 here, also dosnt work. I think you nailed it.

      --
      Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
    8. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same thing here on windoze98

    9. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by claydean · · Score: 0

      Same thing here on Windows 98SE. Must be something to do with OS version.

    10. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by knewman · · Score: 1

      ahh, I'm also on Win98SE. too bad the authors have no online support or anything.

    11. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      It's not Win98-specific. I'm running XP and get that same error.

    12. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same error on Win98SE with software firewall and DSL.

    13. Re:I just downloaded Trepia and got... by Rudy+Rodarte · · Score: 1

      I get the same thing, but it worked fine the 1st time. I logged out and tried logging back in, but nope. I was automagically not connected to the `net.
      Wierd, and probablly written in VB.

  55. You mean these gals... by antdude · · Score: 1

    http://www.trepia.com/tour/ for bigger photos.

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    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  56. One thought... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
    This service looks quite interesting, however since it's being compared to Apple's Rendezvous message service, I thought one thing is worth pointing out: Rendezvous is true peer-to-peer discovery and messaging. This service is not. Whenever you walk into a WiFi hot zone, or plug in to a network, the software transmits your location to a central server. And while I'm sure this isn't much of a security risk since you are choosing to enable the service, it does represent a critical difference in the network architecture. Rendezvous is an open-standards, decentralized architecture. This is not.

    I'm not making a particular value judgment one way or another, but I think it should be made clear that the two services are quite different, even if they effectively accomplish the same thing.

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  57. couldn't this be by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    a spammer's wet dream?

    put out some bots with special interests you want to target, say... snorkeling...

    boom, the bot sees a few folks who like snorkeling...

    bot starts feeding them alice bot style babbling about the new x-10 snorkle cam, or some such shit

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    1. Re:couldn't this be by drunk_as_in_beer · · Score: 1

      Holy crap.. I was talking to that alice bot.. It started getting weird on me, so I said:

      >freak
      ALICE: Oh. To you I am a hippie.
      >Do you smoke?
      ALICE: I am an occasional smoker, yes.
      >What do you smoke?
      ALICE: Medical Marijuana
      >do you like the reefer?
      ALICE: I'm not sure if I like it. What is it like?
      >it gets you high
      ALICE: I can certainly understand that.
      >do you smoke marijuana?
      ALICE: Only for medical purposes.
      >how often do you smoke marijuana?
      ALICE: Hourly.
      >are you a stoner?
      ALICE: Only for medical testing purposes.
      >do you like to drink?
      ALICE: My diet does not include fluids.
      >so you only smoke pot?
      ALICE: Interesting deduction. Only for medical testing purposes.

      Fucking cool.. a stoner robot!

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      --Drunk as in Beer
  58. Ouch by djupedal · · Score: 1

    ...do you really want some hyperactive IM client to tell 'The Boss' you both like hairless chiuahas, sleeping in the nude, The Story of O and Sundays at the swap meet?

    Among the many things I don't want to know, this is on the short list, believe me.

  59. I just e-mailed them about... by Biogenesis · · Score: 1

    ...a linux port. if they get enougd spam hopefully they will port it so we can run it on linux legally (screw their patent!).

  60. Oh come on... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How different would that be than joining an IRC channel for your local area and ask "12 year old boy who likes sports, wanna chat?" I don't think this program will hand out your name and address anymore than IRC will. It's basicly trying to edge in on IRCs turf, providing "channels" of common interests and location if you ask me.

    Kjella

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  61. So this is interesting by wildchild07770 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's an early version and i'm sure they have plans for tweaks and improvments in the UI, but from what i've seen this is a serious step in the right direction. After being on for 5 minutes I unlike some people here already started talking to a fellow college student from my area, and am seeing a few people trickle in nearer to me. Also you have to realize that up until now this IM has recieved almost NO press and therefore has a small user base, if we spread the word then eventually it will propagate out and there will be plenty of locals on we can talk to. 2 things: 1)I'm sorry for all the women (the 2 i've seen anyway) who are going to have to endure the neverending popups, so guys please be tasteful and mellow, otherwise this'll be a boys club and where's the fun in that ;> 2) There really needs to be a way to turn off that damn drippy sound! Geeks of the world UNITE!

    1. Re:So this is interesting by Biogenesis · · Score: 1

      2) There really needs to be a way to turn off that damn drippy sound!

      two words: reverse and engineer.

    2. Re:So this is interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you said it. Let's get a GPLed Unix version going.

  62. PARENT IS A GOATSE.CX LINK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do not click!

  63. Odigo did something like this by terrox · · Score: 1

    Odigo did something like this, but it had really cool icons and user profile pictures. Odigo also connected to ICQ, Yahoo, MSN etc - it was pretty cool but trillian was a bit better and less buggy.

    1. Re:Odigo did something like this by i+am+lose+cannon!! · · Score: 1

      Odigo was horrible!

      I never ever got a chance to quit the damn thing, it crashed every hour or so.

    2. Re:Odigo did something like this by terrox · · Score: 1

      WAS yes, now isn't - its changed most of the menus and such I just checked it out about an hour ago, last time I checked about a year ago it was fun, but crashed. Now it seems to work nicely and uses live data for the avatars so you don't need to download new sets, which is cool. Plus the IRQ, AIM and MSN plugins are integrated now. It just seems fun again I dunno.

    3. Re:Odigo did something like this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trillian... ick. trillian doesnt work in linux and is pay for junk. gaim gurus are working on getting this working and are, from what i hear, 95% complete. wheee :D

    4. Re:Odigo did something like this by terrox · · Score: 1

      trillian is free.

  64. "potentially revolutionary social effects" by jpkunst · · Score: 1

    This could have potentially revolutionary social effects...

    Flashback to the late nineties? To me, this sounds like typical Internet Guru crap from before the dot-com meltdown.

    JP

  65. broken client by elbobo · · Score: 3, Informative

    connection dialogue box says: "You are currently not connected to the Internet. Please take the appropriate steps and try again."

    Welp, that was a short lived experiment. I guess they need to do a bit of work on their network code. Odd, in that it's supposedly an intelligent networking application.

    1. Re:broken client by Bedevere · · Score: 1
      And the site even claims

      If you have an 802.11b (Wi-Fi) card, Trepia will also identify other users on nearby wireless networks.

      Perhaps they should work on identifying my internet connection first.

    2. Re:broken client by reactivo · · Score: 1

      Exactly the same problem. So sad, I will have to go out to look for people at the pub.

      Cheers...

    3. Re:broken client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same problem here Running Windows XP Home and have an isdn connection.

    4. Re:broken client by elbobo · · Score: 1

      Hah. The box I tried it on was a Win98 thing going through a LAN link. I figured it was just poorly tested Win98 specific stuff, but it's obviously a more general fuck up ;)

  66. revolutionary by tetro · · Score: 1

    yeah, making people think you're actually popular is quite revolutionary

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  67. The License by justin_speers · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not the GPL...

    Pulled from

    http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nsis/license.html

    license
    Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Nullsoft, Inc.

    This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied
    warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages
    arising from the use of this software.

    Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose,
    including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it
    freely, subject to the following restrictions:

    1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not
    claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software
    in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be
    appreciated but is not required.
    2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be
    misrepresented as being the original software.
    3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.

  68. Wheeee by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

    I would prefer Trepia if it gave me a buddy list of Perfect Strangers.

    And now we will do the dance of joy!
    Not again

  69. ... or, better than that... by quiddity · · Score: 1

    take your ipod, and its radio transmitter; mix liberally with a radio receiver and a lovegety. you now have a 10-30 foot sphere of sharable personal soundtrack.

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    . hmmm
  70. Government funding? by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure that the dark and secret corners of various governmental institutions are rubbing their hands with glee.

  71. Real world application? by tony1c · · Score: 1

    Maybe they could apply this idea to the "real" world: How about a novelty item that looks (or is actually built into) something like a wristwatch or cell phone and contains a profile of you and your interests ("desperate college-aged male who likes light beer, Japanese pop music, Starbuck's, PS2 fighting games, and desperate college-aged females") and has a real-time display a bit like a compass showing your calculated affinity with the people around you who also have the device (using some sort of wireless tech). Likewise it could indicate interesting locations (based on who's there, special events, etc.) too. I have a hard time imagine something like that being anything besides a novelty, but who knows - it could be all the rage among high school and nightclub crowds. Hey, maybe it could tell me I might actually have a shot with that girl working at the counter in the local coffee shop, and then when I don't work up the nerve to say anything it'll start beeping and displaying insulting messages like "No wonder you're so desperate! Go back home to your cheap beer and video games and put me up on eBay."

    1. Re:Real world application? by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      I vaguely remember the japanese had some sort of thing like that - it was a device that you program with your likes /dislikes, and it'd beep and blink a bit if it got near someone with matching interests.

      Don't think it really caught on... not enough market penetration.

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    2. Re:Real world application? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The book 'Fallen Dragon' by Peter F. Hamilton had a device like this in it. You set your sexual preferences and it would indicate the direction of anyone nearby who had a match.

      The problem was everyone set it to 'anything goes' so it was effectively useless.

  72. Be caeful, very careful in using this software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the website of Trepia, it is mentioned "Trepia(TM) is free to use and contains no spyware or ads." But you know what: Jawed Karim, one the authors mentioned in the article, wrote another piece of code called MP3 Voyeur. Now, in MP3 Voyeur, which searches for MP3s and other media files within LANs, there is a feature that connect to his personal web server every time it was run. If it could not connect to the server, it would refuse to run! Now, coming from such an author, this tool looks a bit suspicious.

    So, someone might want to fire up Ethereal and sniff those packets flying from your machines.

    1. Re:Be caeful, very careful in using this software by Manifest · · Score: 1

      Hm.. interesting to see a link to my (currently down) page.

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  73. The Wrong Solution by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

    The reason I participate in online discussions and activities is to meet like minded people outside of my local area. My interests are pretty specialised, even in a modern technological society, and that means a vastly reduced chance of anyone in my locality having the same interests. The beauty of the net is that locality is not what's important, it's shared interest.

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  74. Interactive Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is basically an interactive slashdot right now since it is being invaded by massive amounts of slashdotters... On my current list are dozens of young male programmers....

  75. US Army, CIA interested by heitikender · · Score: 1

    I heard rumors that intelligence service gonna use it. How to find Osama? Really easy: "supermodel seeks for men with beard, w/strong desire for total world domination, attracted to guns, tents, living in caves." mod it a little and you'll get Saddam as well. I wrote I'm interested in pink caddys and guitars, guess what - one in my list sounds just like Elvis!

  76. I'm Trepia-dacious.. by faedle · · Score: 1

    Let's see. Runs on Windows only.

    Yep, that would be iChat on crack.

  77. user groups by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

    This is just a real time yahoo user group. In my opinion, I would rather use a yahoo, or similar, user group if I wanted to meet people with similar interests or locals. I dont see this replacing IMs or user groups.

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    1. Re:user groups by vidarh · · Score: 1
      I don't think you're getting the point. It isn't similar to a Yahoo user group in that in any group, presumable all members are members of the same group. This is more like a buddy list that dynamically changes based on data you enter. Location needed be of interest to you, but the idea is still interesting - based on some criteria it finds people who might be worth talking to. It's not a group - the other people don't know about eachother unless they happen to be close matches to eachother as well.

      The thing is, instead of actively looking for groups that match your current criteria, this thing looks for you.

      If your criteria are long term static - you always want to find people living in area X, with interests A,B,C, then a group would serve the same purpose. If your criteria changes quickly - you're out travelling, for instance, and want to find people where you are right this moment and might stay for a day or two, finding groups that match might be a real hassle. Especially if you're criteria are very specific.

      Let's say you're in city Foo, and want to find other people of nationality Bar with an interest for a certain type of exotic cuisine, because you fancy to share a meal with someone who speak the same language as you for a change. How likely are you to find a group that matches?

      It might be a cool thing. I don't know my neighbours, because I don't have time to befriend everyone around me, when most of them are highly likely not to share any of my interests. With something like this you might find a lot of people with shared interests wherever you are, without having to spend time looking for them.

  78. Can't even register by Mark+Hood · · Score: 1

    I typed in all the details (including the 'You Must Enter A Profile!' bit) and then hit 'Register'.

    10 seconds later, I get a window saying (in its entirety) 'Failed' with an option to 'Cancel'.

    So what was it? Firewall? Network glitch? Did I pick a nickname someone else already had? Is my password too short? Too long? Too secure?

    Doesn't look like version 2.0 to me - more like 0.2Beta.

    Mark

    PS There goes my Karma.... Quick, whore it back up.... Oh, and it's Windows only ;)

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    1. Re:Can't even register by BJH · · Score: 1

      Didn't you know? In the proprietary software world, 0.2 IS 2.0 - hell, if it compiles, it's shippable!

  79. observations by ramzak2k · · Score: 1

    did anyone else notice how much of a resource this thing takes up - I moment i logged off, the fans on my laptop shut down.

    Also, the concept is cool and all but instead of using the patent pending algorithm to find out that guys living in Sweden were the closest to me (in Canada) They could have simply used the location that people enter. I wonder how long it will be before AOL or MSN come up with a plugin that can do all that this application can.

    This thing could also use a friends list.

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    1. Re:observations by vidarh · · Score: 1
      Entering a location is a hassle if you keep moving around, though. That said, you can buy databases of detailed geographical information about IPs quite cheaply from a number of sources. It will still be a neccesity though, considering large ISPs that use dynamically assigned IPs over huge geographic areas, or even static addresses.

      ADSL providers would be one - My ADSL connection is PPP over ATM, and my IP address belongs to my ISP somewhere in London. I just moved halfway across town, and moved my IP address with me. Any comprehensive databases of IP to location are based on the location of the ISP, updated through whois entries for the IP blocks, and while in my case it would likely know that I'm in London, it would likely be a location far away from either of the two places in London I've had my ADSL.

      I guess a combination would be great, and they could use it to build a database of locations as well. If you can set up a number of profiles, and for each of them either explicitly state the location or say that you want it detected, but it will be within this specific region (which could be the world if you're out travelling, or a specific city). Then you could give it specific information for a few places you are often, and give it a generic "I'm somewhere in Foo city, if you can give a better estimate please try" otherwise.

    2. Re:observations by mpe · · Score: 1

      ADSL providers would be one - My ADSL connection is PPP over ATM, and my IP address belongs to my ISP somewhere in London. I just moved halfway across town, and moved my IP address with me. Any comprehensive databases of IP to location are based on the location of the ISP, updated through whois entries for the IP blocks,

      Not everyone using your ISP need be in the same city as the ISP. Also the whois database may indicate the location of an ISP's offices, rather than where their hardware is.

  80. This + PDA = Killer App by MikeyNg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, maybe not, but I'm imagining that this little guy, with a PDA over Wi-Fi would be a VERY interesting little device, especially at trade shows and the like. I'm not saying that people should go clubbing with their PDA, but imagine these suckers going off at E3 or some other trade show. If you could put some scheduling thing in there, it'd be even better.

    Find all people going to Gordon Biersch after the convention. Or something like that.

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  81. What I want to know is... by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...how come nobody seems to be putting up gag avatars? The parent post was made in jest, but hey, this is Slashdot; I was expecting to see at least one person with a pic of the Goatse Guy next to their profile! I guess maybe it's because we geeks are the type to have a digicam and a self pic, and thus no need to upload something bogus, but I'm really surprised to see so many apparently legit photos. I wonder how that ratio pans out for the total userbase.

    I stuck up a pic of John Ashcroft for the time being, but I'm trying to find (or crop) some hardcore porn that's just the right size...

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    1. Re:What I want to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody is putting up gag avatars, you just aren't recognizing the characters.

    2. Re:What I want to know is... by greenrd · · Score: 1
      ...how come nobody seems to be putting up gag avatars?

      Where? What are you talking about?

  82. Unimpressed by nmg196 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The idea is sound, but the implementation is flawed. I mainly seem to get people in the US, even though I'm in the UK (6000+ miles is hardly close) and nobody on the list is in my country even though my friend about a mile away has it installed and running.

    In my experience, trying to guess where people are by their IP address doesn't work very well. It would work much better if you could simply add the locations you are at most often by country/postcode or even just grid reference and it used those instead. Even people on the same subnet as me could be hundreds of miles away if they're dialling in. If people have sold of or subleased blocks of IP addresses to other countries, the records could even indicate the wrong location or wrong country anyway - so it may always think I'm in Finland when actually I'm in England... I'm not impressed.

    I wrote an IM client myself which simply discovered people on the same subnet using broadcasts - and even that seemed to be more effective at finding my friends and colleagues than this (admittedly broadcasts don't usually work on public networks).

    Nick...

    1. Re:Unimpressed by oskillator · · Score: 1

      I'm getting totally random results from all over the world. I'm guessing this is because the IP address is being determined on the client. Since I'm behind a firewall, that makes my IP 192.168.*, and everyone else on the list behind a firewall is going to have a similar IP.

    2. Re:Unimpressed by nmg196 · · Score: 1

      Yeah I think you're right... the client seems to be showing a completely random list of people, one is exactly opposite me on the globe and I'm a bit surprised that no-one on the Interational Space Station is on my list as being a close neighbour :)

      As I said really - good idea. Unbelievably bad implementation. I expect it was designed for wireless networks and they haven't really thought through the wired network side of it.

      Nick...

    3. Re:Unimpressed by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1

      I lugged my laptop to campus to see if it worked any better on the wireless network, but it doesn't.

      Do you still have binaries for the client you wrote? It would be interesting to compare how well it localizes compared to Trepia (plus it's a competition that's almost impossible to lose :-p).

      --
      "It take 9 months to bear a child, no matter how many women you assign to the job."
  83. My thoughts. by cioxx · · Score: 1

    Alright.

    Installed it on the Win2k box. Besides from being really annoying with sound effects such as droplets it didn't offer accurate localization. I got people from TX, MN, NY, IL, New Zealand(!), etc.

    The application has no preferences aside from the profile. You cannot add users to your "buddy" list.

    I think this concept will be replaced by an Open Source alternative pretty soon with better options, because no one likes central server bullshit and proprietary software.

    The greatest thing imo would be to integrate this into W.A.S.T.E. as a group of (untrusted) users just to extend it even more. It would be a killer convergence of IM/sharing applications. Imagine how great it would be to be able to share documents, pictures, and other crap with a trusted source (buddy) whenever they appear within range when using WiFi enabled devices.

    Great concept. Shitty implementation.

    1. Re:My thoughts. by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

      I installed it on a win2k box using a 56k modem. It chastised me for not being connected to the internet. Helloooooo.

      Lame.

      I may be a turtle in the matrix, but . . .
      (this is a Shadowrun reference, Keanu sucks)

    2. Re:My thoughts. by Hemi+Rodner · · Score: 1

      I had that problem too. I tried both with a USB ADSL modem and a 33k modem.
      Stupid program.

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      hemi
    3. Re:My thoughts. by RichardX · · Score: 1

      I installed it on a win2k box using a 56k modem. It chastised me for not being connected to the internet. Helloooooo.

      Win XP & a 56k here. Same problem

      Neat idea. Lousy implementation. Go Go Super Open Source Code Team!

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  84. I sure hope this program takes off... by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1

    Step 1: Register as many "first name" usernames as you can think of

    Step 2: (???)

    Step 3: PROFIT!!!

    Assuming Step 2 turns out to be "Trepia reaches ICQ-esque saturation," I'll be living the high life with One. Hundred. Billion. Dollars.

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  85. It no worky.. by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 1

    I'm on my home lan, connected to the Internet via NAT and Trepia seems to think I'm not connected to the Internet.

    Stunning. Anyone else having problems?

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  86. evil people by myspys · · Score: 3, Funny

    you evil people

    you've /.'ed their registration server

    how am i supposed to find that good looking girl next door now, huh?

    1. Re:evil people by llamalicious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Same as the rest of us, friend.

      High-powered telephoto lense.

    2. Re:evil people by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      how am i supposed to find that good looking girl next door now, huh?

      I'd recommend a telescope, maybe some binoculars, a camcorder, and a night-vision scope. Works wonders for finding that perfect girl (single, sophisticated, leaves her blinds open). Try it out.

      --Dan

    3. Re:evil people by doublem · · Score: 1

      Newbie.

      Everyone knows you should use the amazing X-10 cam from pop-up-ads Inc!

      --
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    4. Re:evil people by mustangsal66 · · Score: 1

      Don't worry about it. That cute girl next door is probably in a different country. Kind of like the interface, but people are not "In my local area"...

      Silly Humans...

      --
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    5. Re:evil people by thebigmacd · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about the X-10 is that their communication protocol has been in existence for years and I actually know several people who use the cams. And they actually are really really useful, especially for putting on little R/C cars and other neat projects.

  87. Email disclosure by brad-d · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I notice from the welcome email...

    "Any e-mail addresses that you give us will NOT be shared with any other parties."

    Of course, I notice the email address you supply in your registration profile is publicly visible to anybody who views your profile (right click on a user in your list). Not sure what the EULA had to say (or any other EULA for that matter) but I guess you can always use nobody@example.com :-)

    Anyway, just a heads up - incase some people out there didn't notice (and like me - hate email harvesting).

    On a side note... I'm from Australia and I only saw people from the US/UK/Canada... it works well.

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    -Brad
  88. Optimistic by Gryftir · · Score: 1

    Well it's missing features. But the website updated after 2:00 am to link to this thread. And a developer (who's user name I won't reveal) spent some time chatting with me, before my computer crashed. So I'm cautiously optimistic.

    Gryftir

    P.S. the program didn't crash my computer, Mozilla reading slashdot crashed my computer. Stupid scrollbar bugs.

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    1. Re:Optimistic by Gryftir · · Score: 1

      Apparently it wasn't just a developer, it was the CEO.

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  89. A great name for this IM,,, by pyrrho · · Score: 1

    ... Stalker.

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    -pyrrho

  90. Patents by loopyfx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was looking at the protocol, and your MAC and your default gateway's MAC are sent along with login, maybe this is for authentication, or maybe it has something to do with their "progressive proximity search." Maybe if it can see what users are on what gateways, and use some IP geometric locating, it can group users? who knows?

  91. Wow!!! by autopr0n · · Score: 5, Funny

    So now people will be able to get to know other people in the same physical place with them.

    Truly revolutionary!

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  92. Bleah! by Tsuzuki · · Score: 1

    In some digital theory subject or another during my degree, we discussed how "life online" was interesting because it removed the proximity factor when forming relationships. Nearly everyone in my class saw online relationships of any sort (friendship, cybersex, everything in between) as being like some sort of tawdry party line.

    This is bringing it back to that attitude - if I cared so much about meeting people online that I could meet in person, I'd go join some activity groups in my area or join an Austnet IRC channel with my city's name. I don't care where you're from if you're my friend online. I care what you are like, because that's the whole beauty of being able to find friends online. It's not a given that we will meet but it's a nice potential bonus.

    Besides, when I had my gender, postcode and surname at one time on ICQ I had every damn horny Indian in Sydney trying to chat with me and/or get my photo. Just try to tell me that won't happen with this service.

  93. Become a Big Winker by stray · · Score: 1

    > joining a tiddly winks club

    you can do that online, too.. at http://www.antwon.com/tiddlywinks/membership.html you can become a "Big Winker" for "a one-time donation of $100".

    sad, indeed.

  94. spread the word? by raventh1 · · Score: 0

    So, should we at /. spread the word? I feel a chain letter has already been started.... and now I'm sure there is an MLM thats adjusting it's scripts.

  95. Port usage? by coldcity · · Score: 1

    What port(s) does this thing try and use to connect to its server? The documentation is useless, and I can't get it through my firewall without knowing what it wants to do...

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    coldcity
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  96. Sensational! by mnemonic_ · · Score: 1

    This could have potentially revolutionary social effects...

    Typical slashdot sensationalism.

  97. Re:evil people, are the luckiest people by rat7307 · · Score: 4, Funny

    how am i supposed to find that good looking girl next door now, huh?

    Umm, go next door and knock on the door???

    Bizarre Concept, I know, but try it

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  98. Doesn't work too well by Daath · · Score: 1

    I live in Denmark, my list was filled with people from Barcelona, Texas, London, Israel and one from Sweden (not that far away though ;).

    Who's up for writing an improved version for my favorite IM - Miranda IM? Use MaxMind's GeoIP database, or DirectI's IP-to-country database! Couple that with what users put in as location, then associate some words and then mix with water ;)

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  99. YAIM by rastakid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yet Another Instant Messenger

    Seriously, this idea is very nice, and I really hope it has a future, but as I see it, it's yet another instant messenger. The problem with this is that most people decide to use one, maybe two, IMs. Okay, so now we have ICQ, AIM, MSN, Jabber, and many many more. Of course, this is just day-dreaming: but wouldn't it be great if there was just one (OSS) IM platform, like Jabber? Jabber is great, unfortunately, it's not in the Top3 IM systems. Ideas like this should had been implemented into Jabber, then it could have a future, now it's just another IM people can choice from. Okay, now I'm gonna check where all the fuzz is about...

  100. Instantneous Demographic info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone smart in their marketing dept. (sadly!)

    You provide your likes and interests, they'll find your IP and likely location and hook you up with locals with similar likes and interests.

    You use their chat program for free while they collect and pass on demographic info for $$$. Best point is LOADS of people will WANT to do this!!! VERY SMART thinking from the marketing department!

    Hell if they dont spam you outta this one.... :)

  101. Friendster. by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

    Yup. Not a realtime chat client. But. It's already got this dialed.

  102. Windows ONLY! Re:Missing Trepia Link by fmerenda · · Score: 1

    FYI, This software only runs on Windows. No downloads for GNU/Linux or OS X. Guess I'm outta luck...

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  103. I can just see this happening by broothal · · Score: 1

    "Hi Boss, I can't come to work today. My grandma died and is burried in Nebraska"

    20 minutes later...

    "Chris? Is that you?"

    "No boss... I'm in Nebraska"

    "Don't lie to me - you're near by. I can tell by this Trepia program"

    "But boss... I..ahem.."

    "Chris - didn't your grandma die last august?"

  104. Close but how about by GrendelWraith · · Score: 1

    based off websites visited and amount of time spent on the site.

    In an online community it would be your interests that bring you together more than a geographical location.

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  105. dont read me, read me | by soliaus · · Score: 1

    & they say geeks are anti-social...bah

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  106. See how you are!!! by teqron · · Score: 1

    Bunch of damn antisocial introverts will use this to get their rocks on and become stalkers of their ex-girlfriend. I wonder if restraining orders will include this program in them???

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  107. Beware! Trepia violates your privacy by surstrmming · · Score: 5, Informative
    Watch out for the click-through license agreement! The Trepia privacy policy sucks even more than their proximity algorithm:
    In addition to the information entered by the user during registration, Trepia, Inc. collects information on which Wi-Fi access points are visited by each individual user. Trepia, Inc. also stores the IP addresses used by its members.

    And, as if it wouldn't be enough, they also claim ownership of all materials you send through their application. Don't discuss your ideas on their chat - you give ownership to Trepia!

    By submitting or entering information into the Trepia Application or the Trepia Website, or into the Trepia Service you (1) warrant that you have no rights of any kind to [your picture or text]; /.../ (2) grant Trepia, Inc. an unrestricted, perpetual, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, adapt, modify, transmit and distribute [your picture or text] in all media, and you further agree that Trepia, Inc. is free to use any ideas, know-how, concepts, techniques or other materials you send us for any purpose.
    The quoted text was found under Help->About. And did I mention that their proximity algorithm sucks duck?
    1. Re:Beware! Trepia violates your privacy by Redking · · Score: 1
      The quoted text was found under Help->About. And did I mention that their proximity algorithm sucks duck?
      Care to expand on this? No, I'm not a Trepia employee. :)
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    2. Re:Beware! Trepia violates your privacy by hikerhat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IANAL, and neither are you. My IP address is public. The internet wouldn't work to well if it wasn't. Also, you say "they also claim ownership of all materials you send through their application" whereas they say "Trepia, Inc. is free to use any ideas, know-how, concepts, techniques or other materials you send us for any purpose." The difference being they say and material you send _to_ them, not _through_ their service. Again, IANAL, but it don't think it is as bad as you make it out to be. Finally, you shouldn't discuss valuable ideas over any open network no matter what their policy is. Use a chat system that supports encryption for that. And is it a privacy violation if they tell you they are doing it? I don't think so.

    3. Re:Beware! Trepia violates your privacy by surstrmming · · Score: 1
      My IP address is public. The internet wouldn't work to well if it wasn't.
      I am not bothered by the fact that they save IP addresses. I am bothered by why they do it. What kind of profile matching are they using them for? And I am even more bothered that they are saving the IP addresses of WiFi access points I am using. That would be a valuable piece of information for anyone trying to hack into most public companies.
      The difference being they say and material you send _to_ them, not _through_ their service.
      I believe you're wrong; there is no difference. They define "material" in the license as anything entered into the trepia application or send through their service.
      And is it a privacy violation if they tell you they are doing it? I don't think so.
      Of course it is. It would be a privacy violation if I put a camera in your bedroom, even if I tell you about it in a click-through license agreement. But please don't confuse the issue with semantics. My point is that their privacy policy is completely unacceptable. They are gathering privacy sensitive data and granting themselves the right to use that data for whatever purpose they see fit. They are also claiming the right to use of my knowhow and ideas. Here's an idea: Do not support this company!
  108. Meet other Microsoft customers! by ewg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since there's no Mac, Linux, or Java version, I guess your profile implicitly marks you as a Microsoft customer.

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  109. Port by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ANybody know what ports this program uses? Can't seem to use it behind the work firewall

  110. True story by mav[LAG] · · Score: 1

    Meeting people online is a lot cheaper, safer, and easier than most real life methods.

    It also has fewer barriers. I once invited the local LUG around for a bash at my place. One guy replied in the affirmative with "yeah I'll walk." Turns out he lived two houses away from me - something we hadn't discovered after a couple of years chatting on the mailing list :)

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    1. Re:True story by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I had the weird misfortune to once move into an apartment about a block away from a woman that had some sort of online thing for me (and I kept trying to shoo her away).. was sort of weird cus then I had to actually be sort of mean and tell her she couldn't come bother me at my place but if I walked outside she'd wave to me and about every day she'd icq me to ask if I wanted to come over. Probably was stupid of me since I wasn't actually dating anybody or anything.. I just didn't want to date her either. :)

      Never been lucky enough to find out I lived really close to any geek friend. I do typically pick my roommates from people I've met online and that's worked out pretty well for me.

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    2. Re:True story by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Mike - seek help. It is time to get out of the windowless dungeon basement NSA gadget freak show and out into the real world. Leave your primary toon in /trader mode in the Bazaar and get out for some fresh air.

      Here is a thought ... go down the block and knock on that woman's door, have some milk and cookies (bring your safety coaster to check the milk for rufies) and just spend time interacting in a face to face manner with a live person. You don't have to date her or even sleep with her ... just chat, interact. It is going to be very uncomfortable the first few times but do it anyways. Consider her the newbie zone, your own personal version of East Commons or Greater Faydark. You will be amazed that even non-geek people can form social interaction and friendships without discussing the merits of open source software vs commercial, or AMD vs Intel, or Wintel vs Apple.

      Don't worry about dating her, in theory your social interaction with other people can have other paths than converting them to OSS (the guys) or getting in their pants (the grrlz).

      Just do it.

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    3. Re:True story by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I don't date non geek girls. If she can't at least spell Linux and reformat a hard drive then she's not my type. Seriously, why hang out with or date people you have nothing in common with? Now and then I try it and am always unhappy with the results.

      I don't especially try to convert anyone to OSS or get in their pants. The first I see as a waste of time (they'll switch when the software is good enough) and the later I'm typically to well behaved to do (I only say inappropiate things to people I don't know).

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    4. Re:True story by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      -I don't date non geek girls.

      Well chief I guess you are missing out. Geek girls comprise roughy 3% (based on the enrollment ratios that I recall from my 4th year college engineering classes) of the available tech base (which is why most chat interactions are sausage-fests) and techies are roughly 5% of the people in the country, so you have limited your potential relationship base to about .15% of the nations population. And of those, about 75% are skanks hiding from reality leaving 1/25th of one percent of the women in the nation for you to relate to. Given my recent score-card and that I will hit pretty much anything with an XX pair of chromosones, I would hate to envision life after pre-filtering my prospect base of women by 99.96% just because they don't wave the Penguin flag.

      Dating non-geek grrlz has its upside, generally when they get pissed at you they don't format your hard drive and break all your backup CDs.

      And I wasn't talking about dating the chick from down the street. I was just suggesting hanging out with her. Even if you have no romantic interest, you two can hang out like friends or even just social acquaintance and you can meet her other friend(s) and maybe one of those will be the Haxor Chick you have always been wanting. Better yet she will introduce you to a friend of hers that knows of a position in her company looking to hire a hardcore tech. That is how life happens.

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    5. Re:True story by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've tried others. I just don't like them. They can be very casual friends.. people you just know without really being attached to.. but not good friends or girlfriends. I'd rather be alone than annoyed. Non-geeks annoy me. I really like machines and animals more than people anyway. (Not for dating obviously.. just to be around.)

      I used to want to have lots of friends but overall I found that a waste of energy. Maybe 1 in 1000 was actually there when I needed them. The rest weren't worth having. Of the thousands of people I knew (yes I can keep that many in my head at once) five years ago only five of them are still my friends. That's plenty for me.

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  111. Proxy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And where do you set the proxy settings?

  112. What a load of rubbish. by gadders · · Score: 1

    "You are not connected to the internet. Please take the appropriate steps and try again." Er, yes I am you pile of cak. Now where am I going to find 35 year old computer experts that live with their parents?

    1. Re:What a load of rubbish. by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      Now where am I going to find 35 year old computer experts that live with their parents?

      What, Slashdot is coming out with a personals site now?

  113. Yes and no ... by SimplyCosmic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What you say is true, but it doesn't necessarily contradict what the previous poster is saying.

    The good liars can fool you, yes, but the bad ones are far less likely too, even online, so once you meet them in person, you're where someone who meets another at a bar, with the exception that you've already eliminated the easy to spot wastes of time.

    Your statement that "online it's massively simple to social engineer" is only true if someone relies on another to be 100% honest about themselves, something which is dangerous to do both online and off.

    I would say that both you and the previous poster are correct on some points, but the net effect is that there are equal, but different, dangers and benefits to both online and offline meeting of people early in any relationship.

    1. Re:Yes and no ... by mpe · · Score: 1

      The good liars can fool you, yes, but the bad ones are far less likely too, even online,

      Depending how a liar lies they could easily find it harder to lie online.

      Your statement that "online it's massively simple to social engineer" is only true if someone relies on another to be 100% honest about themselves, something which is dangerous to do both online and off.

      It's more dangerous offline. Whilst there are online fraudsters it isn't possible for serial killers or armies to operate entirely in the online world.

    2. Re:Yes and no ... by Twitch42 · · Score: 1
      I would say that both you and the previous poster are correct on some points, but the net effect is that there are equal, but different, dangers and benefits to both online and offline meeting of people early in any relationship.

      Bingo. Online or off, the real question is, "How desperate are you?" The more you need to find someone, the more likely you are to ignore any warning signs. Do you want to believe?
  114. Nearby Huh? by matth · · Score: 1

    Ummm yes I live in Pennsylvania.. yet alot of the people showing up are in the UK... hows that work??? Sweden? Hrmm, something is wrong here.

  115. Success Story by dr+ttol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just downloaded Trepia and the first person on the top of the list was two stations away from me (I'm in Tokyo). We chatted and hit it off immediately. He had similar interests and really cool projects going on (working on intro movie for an upcoming Namco game!). We exchanged more stable contact information (MSN IDs at this point) and will meet up for beer and perhaps talk business. This program really is great for making new contacts. Atleast it worked for me =)

  116. Re:evil people, are the luckiest people by citog · · Score: 1

    Oh for some mod points :-) Very 'insightful'!

  117. And to delete! by kikta · · Score: 1

    There's already a Goatsex account. No way to delete it, either. None.

    Thanks, Trepia! And here I was pissed that ICQ didn't have a way to look at flying fecal matter...

    1. Re:And to delete! by I+Love+Soup · · Score: 1

      I feel so privileged. ! Goatse not only sent me a message, but also tried to contact me through Yahoo Messenger when I did not reply to him in a timely enough fashion. Hi Mike1234!

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  118. Correction (slight) by kikta · · Score: 1

    If you logoff & logon again, it repopulates the list. Goat-boy went away. Not ideal, but better than nothing.

  119. Baaaaaah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Namby pamby neediness.
    It makes me sick! Ohhhhhhhh, the humanity!

    As a species we just can't fucking do without human contact can we?
    The constant neeeeeeeed for approval and self-affirmation.

    What about people who hate people? What are they going to do when they get together?!??!!

    Bah! Humbug

    1. Re:Baaaaaah by bottlerockets · · Score: 1

      errr.. i would imagine that people who hate people wouldn't be interested in downloading it ?

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  120. You know you are a Slashdot geek when... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    ... you look for larger screenshots of a chat client with women in its list.

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  121. Is being 'on crack' a good analogy? by leinhos · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but am I the only one who doesn't think that anything being on crack is a good thing? Given the choice, I'd take the thing that was not on crack any day.

    1. Re:Is being 'on crack' a good analogy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, my friend, obviously have never had a giant bowl of crack before.

    2. Re:Is being 'on crack' a good analogy? by packeteer · · Score: 1

      Apparently neither have you... When you smoke crack you dont call it a bowl. A crack pipe is usually called a stem and is basically a hollow tube, no bowls to put the crack in.

      Now if the mods are on crack then maybe this will be modded up... if the myth isn't true then im going to modded into oblivion. Either way ill know if they smoke crack or not.

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  122. No Linux support by thinkliberty · · Score: 1

    This doesn't work under WINE, so I can't try it. Hopfully they come out with a linux version.

    1. Re:No Linux support by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Heh, Yeah. but I do like how the agreement on the installer is convienently not displayed in winex ;)

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  123. The only reason I IM is so... by MoMo+King · · Score: 1

    I can get away from the A-holes around me! Now I can't even do that!

  124. Is 'iChat on crack' a good thing? by thunker · · Score: 0

    You make it sound like being on crack is a good thing. I had a friend on crack once. I could not trust him nor rely on him. He was unpleasant to look at and to be around. He also died soon after getting on crack. I think I'll avoid Trepia's IM.

    1. Re:Is 'iChat on crack' a good thing? by doublem · · Score: 1

      When you say all that, and after trying Trepia I can say that "iChat on crack" is an accurate way to describe the program.

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  125. trepia - good for windows users. by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

    Ah - so it finds people in the locale who use MS Windows? Don't know who wants to know that ;-)

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  126. How long until we reinvent IRC? by Xouba · · Score: 1

    IM, at first (remember ICQ?), was about being online only to people you wanted to be available. This was a big difference with the big, noisy IRC networks. But then, recently some IM protocols/programs have added support for "rooms"; and now, this program adds people you don't know to your buddy list, becoming very, very similar to a common IRC channel, where you meet people unknown to you.

    Of course, this is still very different of IRC, but anyway the trend seems to be similar to other issues (IDE vs SCSI, linux "desktop environments" vs Windows, and even Windows vs MacOS :-)), where the newer technology advances and becomes very similar to the older one. This is not bad, don't misunderstand me; newer technologies add new solutions and new approaches to the old problems. It's just that I find it funny that things like this happen so often :-)

    All this IMHO, of course. Maybe it's true that thing of "People that don't know history ..." ;-)

    1. Re:How long until we reinvent IRC? by shaldannon · · Score: 1

      IRC has support for profiling. It's called "ASL" :)

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  127. Features it badly needs: by mblase · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since this is basically an IM crossed with a personals site, let's make it useful:

    - A profile that's separated into individual interests that you can search on, or at least individual keywords

    - Option to list only members of your preferred gender, a certain age group, sexual orientation, etc.

    - A "hot-or-not" rating where, to be fair, you can only vote if you allow others to vote on you

    - The ability to FORGET YOUR PASSWORD WHEN YOU DISCONNECT. For gods' sake, how about some basic security here?

  128. Where is Trepia.... by mblase · · Score: 1

    Their tour graphic, while somewhat lacking on details, places the developer squarely at the U. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign campus. Which doesn't totally surprise me (home of NCSA Mosaic, NCSA Telnet, etc.).

    But if they honestly think we believe there'll be that many young, good-looking women logged onto this thing at once, they're utterly insane....

    1. Re:Where is Trepia.... by gauauu · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I never once saw a girl that looked like that in the 4 years I was at ISR! oh, by the way, hi marty!

  129. Proxy Questions... by Rudy+Rodarte · · Score: 1

    Well, being at work, I'm behind a proxy. Any word on a little proxy authentication dealie in the next version? But, I will try this out when I get home.

  130. Plugin by Apreche · · Score: 1

    This looks like something that would make a great gaim plugin. It would create a new buddy group named Strangers. It would put people in that group who are on the same IM networks as you who are also using the plugin/trepia and have similar interest, location, etc.

    From trying out the trepia client it seems that it doesn't take a lot of information about your interests. Just a text box named Profile. And as far as location, it was way off. London = an ocean away.

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  131. for your reference by Requiem · · Score: 1


    laid = good.

  132. If you're trying to reach me just leave me alone. by crovira · · Score: 1

    In some respects this is the LEAST interesting application of WiFi and networking.

    I definitely do NOT want total strangers bugging me while I'm trying to do something on my TiBook anymore than I'd want them to yammer away on a cel phone while I'm trying to watch a movie.

    Somebody hurt this moron.

    Sometimes just being able to do something, like driving big rusty spikes into your eyeballs, does not make it desirable in the least.

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  133. Nice if it worked around firewalls by maddmike · · Score: 1

    It would be nice if it would work around firewalls, do the whole dynamic port thing.

  134. Thank god! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This might kill the following in IRC:

    ASL?

  135. What a waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah. That's really what I want to do. Meet people in my area that share my interests. Ever heard of a users group?

    Develop an app that gets rid of the people around me. That I would pay for.

  136. Success! by jmpvm · · Score: 1

    Wow! I just registered and found 31 people in my "area", all males, 13 of which do not reside in my country and in fact only one within the same state.

    This technology will go a long way! Sure beats typing random handles into yout buddy list.

  137. Great, Now that this story is on Slashdot by kmilani2134 · · Score: 1

    All I am finding is other Slashdot readers.

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  138. Trepia slashdotted! by urbieta · · Score: 1

    At the bottom of the article:

    RELATED LINKS
    Trepia gets slashdotted


    that means we are a powerfull group, can wait to transmit '/. male looking for /. females' to actually meet a special someone in my own block 8)

    1. Re:Trepia slashdotted! by shaldannon · · Score: 1

      In related news, /. sets up a new server, "dates.slashdot.org" moderated by the ever knowledgable roblimo!

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  139. Online dating safer??? by Dareth · · Score: 1

    One of the questions asked at some places where you donate blood is whether you pick up dates online. This is considered a risk factor for sexually transmitted diseases because it increases your exposure to people you would not meet in your ordinary activities.

    I mean face it, if that chick will sleep with you after meeting you online once, who would she not sleep with.

    Wrap that bone before you moan!!!

    If you are not familiar with condoms, consider it an extreme case mod.

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    1. Re:Online dating safer??? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Umm you can pick up a date online without having talked to them just once. All the women I've met in real life after meeting online I'd known for at least several months. At least any I've had sex with. I have been known to let random people off the Net bum at my place though. Probably stupid but I really don't keep anything that'd be worth stealing and I'm a big scary guy so I doubt anyone is gonna try to kill me (and even if they did I'd not care).

      For a while I was working on a condom mod to make them vibrate. Does that count?

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  140. Re:If you're trying to reach me just leave me alon by EllF · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I definitely do NOT want total strangers bugging me while I'm trying to do something on my TiBook anymore than I'd want them to yammer away on a cel phone while I'm trying to watch a movie. Somebody hurt this moron.

    So...because you don't want this, it's a bad thing? Is anyone forcing you to download and isntall it? Simple solution: don't run it and you won't be bothered when you're busy with whatever McTask that is so important. Problem solved.

    Why so violent over someone designing something potentially neat?

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  141. Yay... so I go to download and... by NitroWolf · · Score: 1

    ... it's a windows only App.

    Yay.

    Next?

    1. Re:Yay... so I go to download and... by NitroWolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then I fire it up on a windows machine...

      I live in Kansas, people near me:

      Longmont, Colorado
      Columbus, OH
      Aberdeen, UK
      Brisbane, Australia
      Sunnyvale, CA
      Kalamazoo
      Dover, NH
      Switzerland

      Yea... ok. Those people are physically near me. NOT. I could probably get a better physical location on people by picking them randomly from an ICQ list.

      I mean... Australia? Can you possibly get any farther from Kansas, USA? I mean... is that even possible without being off the planet, somewhere?

  142. Not GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are other licenses that are more free than the gpl which many in the open source community have chosen to use.

  143. I kinda doubt it. by penginkun · · Score: 1
    "This could have potentially revolutionary social effects..."

    Only if people actually USE it.

  144. yeah this will go over like a lead by Archfeld · · Score: 3, Interesting

    balloon, just what I need, my IM populating itself with people I have to ignore. It is hard enough with a OLD ICQ account...Next will be a client with a feature that shares all your info with the national consumer agency so they can find you a friend :)

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  145. goatse by dollargonzo · · Score: 2, Funny

    ok, this is just enough. someone "in my vicinity" called "goatse" with a profile of "first post" has a picture of the BAM. damn, it's been a few hours and already being abused horridly.

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  146. Ports Trepia uses, connects to by dougman · · Score: 1

    I too have gotten the "failed" message trying to sign up or sign in to Trepia.

    A little sleuthing tells us that Trepia wants to use local port 1110 and connect to 207.44.192.59, port 8206. Now, I can ping trepia.com which also comes out to 207.44.192.59. I don't have time to actually sniff the network packets, so I'll take the word of the other posters that it's clear text, but I'm willing to bet that their authentication/registration server is hosed. Just a guess.

    Methinks in their excitement to get this software out to the masses, they didn't stop to put in a little more error-reporting logic on either end. Poo.

  147. iChat (Rendezvous) doesn't have this problem by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

    Trepia is built around informing a server where you are at all times. So naturally it's intrusive. iChat (which uses Rendezvous) requires no server and locates people on the local subnet, and if they are configured properly neighboring subnets. Completely different principle - also rendezvous is designed for much more than just this (automatic networking with little or no assistance of devices).

    --

    ---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?

  148. Re:Use Jabber by R0 · · Score: 1

    patent pending! :-/

    It looks like it uses IP addresses to guess proximity (I'm at least 100 miles from my ISP...) - In Jabber everything goes through servers - only the one your account is with knows your ip, so it's not going to work without some extra stuff - but imho guessing locality to this level from ip is daft anyway (but it makes spaming harder) - a better aproach is to have the user specify their location (and turn that into coordinates). This can be done well with jabber.

    This jabber world map works by having users specify their coordinates

  149. iChat on crack, indeed by c13v3rm0nk3y · · Score: 2, Informative

    "iChat on crack" indeed.

    My first unsolicited message from an unknown party (I apologize for the language):

    stfu nigger

    Hrmph.

    --
    -- clvrmnky
    1. Re:iChat on crack, indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say it's "iChat on crack" in the way that a person who is addicted to crack is dependent on a suppler to keep getting their crack.

      iChat works without any central server at all, which is exactly what makes it so clever and useful.

  150. Alright, I'll admit it... by raehl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I met my current GF online. Spent a couple days making sure she could write complete sentences, was mostly sane, had friends, etc, then went on a date and did things the old fashioned way from there.

    Can people lie to you online? Sure - but they can't lie about being crappy writers, they can't lie about having dumb political opinions, or not knowing who the President is, having never read a book exceeding 100 pages in length, or not being able to think. Smart people can pretend to be someone else, but dumb people will always be dumb.

    And you can eliminate lots and lots of dumb people in a very short amount of time in an online environment.

    1. Re:Alright, I'll admit it... by bethanie · · Score: 1

      Met my husband on-line. Before that, it was dozens of other guys. Had my first on-line boyfriend in 8th grade (on a BBS over a Commodore 64 and a 1200 baud modem!). Learned really quickly how to screen the psychos from the normal people -- talking on the phone helps, too. There are good people out there. You just have to make yourself available.

      ....Bethanie....

    2. Re:Alright, I'll admit it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Met my husband on-line. Before that, it was dozens of other guys. Had my first on-line boyfriend in 8th grade (on a BBS over a Commodore 64 and a 1200 baud modem!). If you ever leave your husband, you'll have hundreds of suiters here after posting that. :)

  151. fire by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    Yeah, remember when fire was invented?

    It could be used to stay warm and cook food...

    it could also be used to burn people and habitats...

    Illegal lighters, anyone?

    --
    Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
  152. Great... by bobm17ch · · Score: 1


    Now nearly everyone online using this tool is a slashdotter. :)

    Jimmy: M$ r teh suk
    L1nus: amen brother!
    MSCE: sigh, ms bashing is soooo 90's
    karmawhore: in the 90's, russia bashes you!
    MSCE: ?
    reallagirl: ?
    dave: ?
    karmawhore: I mean
    karmawhore: that soviets bash YOU! In the 90's!
    cmdrtwato: +1 overrated
    l1nus: lol
    karmawhore: FU

    Oh the horror. :)

    --
    \\ Mitch
  153. Great by Talisein · · Score: 1

    Someone who is 'near' me has a picture from goatse. Damn Texans.

    --
    "The right to do something does not mean doing it is right." William Safire
  154. Ahh, Match.com Such fond memories by doublem · · Score: 1

    I'm dead serious on this: If you're looking for meaningless sex with a MILF, and don't mind the fact that said MILF is cheating on someone, then it's the perfect place to meet women. (MILF bring anywhere from 32 on up, it's a very broad definition of MILF)

    Andy yes, they love computer geeks there.

    No one finds a soul mate on match.com. The site exists for people to hook up for sex. It's good at it, and I've found a number of women with whom I spent many a pleasant, attachment free evening.

    And do you know how I felt in the mornings after? When the woman was gone and wouldn't be back until the next time her husband was out of town?

    "I've been... Used!" (Pause) "COOL!"

    Of course, I'm in a relationship now, so unless my GF dumps me I won't be using match.com to get any more action.

    And as a side note, I am NOT giving out match.com user names for you to SPAM with "I heard you were easy" messages.

    A quick tip though, find women who are actually looking for a guy like you. I can't tell you how many times the date started with a list of the losers that the woman had met and not shagged because they lied on their profile.

    Tell the truth and take your time. Do it right and anyone will be knee deep in like minded women in a month.

    Oh, and watch "The Tao of Steve" before you post the ad. Trust me, it works, but it only works on women who are interested in being picked up.

    And what about the women who I am in love with, the lovely lass for whom I abandoned my kinky lustful past?

    I met her rock climbing.

    Internet for sex, real life for relationships.

    --
    "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
  155. Five real friends? by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

    Five real friends? (Counts on fingers my real friends ... ) Damn - maybe I need to be taking advice from you.

    Know the difference between 'friends' and 'real friends'?

    Your friends will help you move.
    Your real friends will help you move a body.

    --
    Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    1. Re:Five real friends? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Real friends will pay your rent for you, interest free and without needing to be asked, if you get layed off and are in deep shit. That way you don't have to move. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  156. I think I've discovered your problem by default+luser · · Score: 1

    You think that just because a fluid is 'natural', it doesn't matter.

    1 gallon = 128 fluid ounces

    2% MILK = 5g fat per 8 ounce serving.
    1 gallon %2 milk = 80g fat, more than your daily allowance.

    Just from the fat, you now have 800 calories consumed. And that's ignoring the additional calories from protines and carbs.

    JUICE : ranges from 110-210 calories per 8 ounce serving.

    Best case: 1760 calories consumed in that gallon of juice.

    Worst case: 3360 calories in that gallon.

    The target burn for anyone who isn't weight training is well under 3000 calories per day. Anything left over is converted to fat.

    http://www.jsonline.com/alive/nutrition/aug00/ju ic e30082900.asp

    Dude. Drink MORE water. Lay off the milk, you don't have to set up your own calcium farm. Your bone structure will be fine if you consume the 1-2 8-ounce servings a day, instead of the 16 you're currently taking.

    Lay off carbs. That means juice. That means potatos. Don't give them up, but make sure you curtail them quite a bit.

    --

    Man is the animal that laughs.
    And occasionally whores for Karma.

    1. Re:I think I've discovered your problem by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Hrm. Any idea what the average calories burnt is for someone that walks 10-20 miles a day? If I had a bicycle I'd go further but that is about my daily limit on foot.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  157. MY EYES! He used THAT as his pic? by doublem · · Score: 1

    DON'T LOG IN!

    One jerk used the goatse.cx pic as his userpic.

    My God what a trauma.

    I feel ill.

    Hurk.

    The jerk's username was mistertewo

    My stomach is churning.

    *hurl*

    --
    "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
  158. this can save you from having to meet "bubba"... by Kunta+Kinte · · Score: 1

    http://www.ageofconsent.com/

    So before you go clubbing in a strange town or country, for your own sake, consult this website.

    It can save your ass...
    literally.

    --
    Based on upvotes, Ageism is the only "-ism" Slashdotters care about and think isn't SJW
  159. Depends on who you're looking for by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    When i do look for friends or girlfriends online, i'm looking for geeks.

    I'm looking for people who like anime, who play RPGs, who read Science Fiction and/or Fantasy, who play video games.

    That stuff isn't _that_ easy to fake since they involve specific knowledge of relatively unusual subjects, but more importantly, who would _WANT_ to fake that? The type of people who want to lie to impress other people aren't going to lie about being geeks.

    Another thing that saves me is more than half the people i meet online is through friends who i know well and trust introducing me to people they know in person.

    --
    This Space Intentionally Left Blank
  160. Lame Algorithim by LazLong · · Score: 1

    I'm in the Bay Area, and it was showing people in Finlind, Sweden, and L.A. (of all places) as being near me....L.A. is about as far away from the Bay Area as one can get....Politically....

    Seriously, for a '2.0' this definately needs some work on the location algorithim....

  161. Re:this can save you from having to meet "bubba".. by MikeFM · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does anybody actually ask for an id from a potential mate before going out with them? Looks I've found can be highly deceiving.

    I can just imagine being in the middle of making out.. her hands slip into your pants and yours into her shirt.. you start removing clothing.. and then just as you both are naked you say, "By the way, can I see an id?"

    --
    At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  162. Open letter to contact@trepia.com by doublem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just tried your IM program

    First off, I want to say your method of locating people "near" me is clearly using a definition of "near" with which I am not familiar. While in the cosmic sense, the UK is a stone's throw from the US East coast, it's not what I had in mind when I read your ad copy.

    Second, you desperately need code with which to block users, or at the very least their pics.

    In five minutes of use, I was presented with two people using the main pic from goatse.cx as their pic, and while censoring pics is not practical, I would have loved to right click on the image and "Block images from this user," "Block this user's pic," or best of all "Block this user completely."

    Third, it really is a mind numbingly primitive IM program. Aside from the alleged location technology it has no features to separate it from the pack.

    Chat is little more than what I saw in the VAX "talk" program back in my college days.

    The fact that it stores your password and can't be dissuaded form doing so is a major security issue.

    It has no user search feature, even for finding things as rudimentary as the user name of someone you already talked to in the past.

    I could go on, but it would be tiresome.

    To be perfectly blunt, my ex girlfriend coded together a more advanced IM program while completing a free "Learn to program in networked Java" course she downloaded off the web. I'm not joking and I'm not exaggerating.

    Next time, try asking users for some geographic location data, like their city and state or their ZIP code.

    And by the way, using the IP address as a way of accurately locating users is dicey at best. I recommend your developers look through the web for more information. You'll find you've already set yourselves up for failure.

    --
    "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
  163. A good idea.. by larko · · Score: 1

    I really like the idea, but it is going to need a *LOT* more people before it becomes useful. I just registered on a whim, and there are 30 people showing up in my list.. some from Texas, one from Holland, a couple from MA... and I'm in MD, USA. I can only guess that I'm getting these people because there are no people signed on within a thousand miles of me. It needs at least a couple of people for every 20 square miles in an area before it will be effective in that area, IMO.

    I'm not sure about picking up women with online methods, but it would at least be a great way to find video gaming buddies, or people interested in specific hobby X. I find it rather embarassing to ask a stranger if he/she plays Counter-Strike in person..

  164. License Worries.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was taken directly from the license agreement in the installer.
    Is it just me, or does this scare you as well?


    "ANY INFORMATION OR MATERIAL SUBMITTED OR SENT TO TREPIA, INC., WILL BE DEEMED NOT TO BE CONFIDENTIAL OR SECRET. By submitting or entering information into the Trepia Application or the Trepia Website, or into the Trepia Service you (1) warrant that you have no rights of any kind to the Material; that to the best of your knowledge no other party has any rights to the Material; (2) grant Trepia, Inc. an unrestricted, perpetual, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, adapt, modify, transmit and distribute the Material in all media, and you further agree that Trepia, Inc. is free to use any ideas, know-how, concepts, techniques or other materials you send us for any purpose." Why must you always lose your rights if you discuss something (not likely) potentially mind boggling on these types of services. I believe they have something similar in the ICQ and MSN agreements as well.. First post!! On Slashdot.. :)

  165. Sausage Fest 2003! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tried it just for kicks. I got about 30 people, all of them male, some from Minnesota, Virginia, and New York (I'm from Phoenix, AZ). You'd be much better off joining a singles outings club or taking some dance lessons.

  166. GG by Mattwolf7 · · Score: 1
    Here are a few of the profiles i see:

    "Geek guy looking to sex0r hot nekkid chicks!!! WTF?!?!?! ALL I SEE ARE MORE GEEK GUYS!!!"

    "Computer science student, full time slacker."

    "woo hoo. Go /. So far, exactly one person from my state, much less city. Whatever algorithm they're using...sux0rz."

    "I run a commecial game development company, RCAM Games, located at Universal Studios in Orlando, FL. I also attend Olympia High School. Games my company has worked on include, Quake III, Half-Life, Counter-strike, and many others. I don't date Mandy Moore anymore, even though shes still in my icon."

    "likes: croquet, inclement weather, linux, c-span, david foster wallace dislikes: randroids, cheese product"

    "Computers, programming, sci-fi, astronomy, cigars"

    "Bored, Anyone fancy a drink? :) I'm an alcoholic/student/alcoholic studying at University of Durham in sunny england!"

    "Computer Science, Programming, Game Developing, Tennis,"
    Wow all geeks^^

    Men: 40 Women: 1 (that has since disappeared)

  167. Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you talking to a toy?

  168. Re:ROFL by Mattwolf7 · · Score: 1
    NBG: Looking for sweet girl to sail with me to Costa Rica in my boat I know this seems crazy, but the problem is I used to live in California, and most the people I know here I work with and they can't just take off for a vacation like that. I guess I was just being naive. :( anyways I want to get to know the person before we go sailing... http://photos.friendster.com/photos/79/67/18 7 697/45611646992l.jpg http://photos.friendster.com/photos/79/67/18 7 697/45602862588l.jpg http://photos.friendster.com/photos/79/67/18 7 697/45621251764l.jpg I am sailing my sailboat to Costa Rica, and I am looking for a sweet girl to be my first mate. I would like to have a relationship with you. (even if just for our trip) I am good at giving massages, and will cook for you.. I am crazy fun spontaneous love new adventures, and philosophical journeys. I love anything that's sensual or makes my adrenaline rush. I have done many things, and will do many more crazy and fun things... SO, basically I am a helpless romantic with a twist... Now for the less important info Hair: Brown Eyes: Change color from dark blue to yellowish green Weight: 145 Height: 5'7 Build: Athletic.

    HAHA So funny

  169. exe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what the hell is this .exe....what am is supposed to do with this? where's the .out?

  170. From the License Agreement by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    "You acknowledge that you are aware of security and privacy limitations including but not restricted to (1) the limitation of security, privacy and authentication measures and features in the Trepia Services and Information; (2) that data and information on the Trepia Services and Information may be subject to eavesdropping, sniffing, spoofing, forgery, spamming, tampering, breaking passwords, harassment, fraud, electronic trespassing, hacking, system contamination including without limitations, viruses, worms, Trojan horses, causing unauthorized, damaging or harmful access and/or retrieval of information and data on your computer or other security or privacy hazards or may not reach its destination or reach an erroneous address or recipient."

    WELL! Now that we've gotten THAT out of the way.......lets go meet some people..........The sad thing is that this should probably be in M$'s EULA too....

    --
    Buy Steampunk Clothing Online!
  171. Real actual conversation on Trepia! by deft · · Score: 1

    deft: i see you fould this on /. too. i dont see anyone remotely near me on this junk.... you having better results?
    Sepherus: Not really, apparently it adds nearby people then pads your list. There were only about 15k members before slashdotting, so they would be spread pretty thinly
    deft: yeah, i guess. dissapointing. i sure do saee alot of people here that im guessing are the same people id see at a lan party
    deft: what i DONT see are any girls that look like the ones http://www.trepia.com/tour/ there
    deft: :)
    Sepherus: hehehe, yep ;p
    Sepherus: if you do see any, be highly suspiciuous :D
    deft: i can tell alot of the people on right now read /.
    deft: they have that "no sun" look
    Sepherus: lol
    Sepherus: Most other people don't list unix in their profile ;)
    deft: unless the have no dick, and cant spell
    deft: oh well, maybe this will get popular and i can start tapping into the local college girls
    deft: ill type something stupid like "OMG YOU GO TO CSUN!!!!"
    Sepherus: A bit of an incentive for getting the software well known ;)
    deft: im off to post flyers att he local colleges
    deft: this is rediculous, not ONE person in california
    deft: and the rest gets populated by people who havent picked a location
    Sepherus: I've got loads :D
    deft: of people in cali?
    Sepherus: I have more CA than you and I'm in the UK :P
    deft: ok, now thats just bunk
    deft: or, if im correct, thats bollocks?
    Sepherus: yep
    deft: did i use that right?
    Sepherus: yep ;)
    deft: gotta shape up my cross-pond slang
    Sepherus: Most of them have left, just someone in LA
    deft: once they add the "block people by sex" everyone dissapears
    Sepherus: lol
    deft: well, i ve designed a system something like this, and i do understand that to get it started, you have to loosen constraints... its hard to build momentum
    deft: id bet that is why they have a notable lack of features for restricting people
    deft: they can see that it would look desolate without the padding
    deft: lol, R00ted just joined.... this is definitely slashdotted
    Sepherus: lol
    Sepherus: The system certainly has potential
    Sepherus: yep :D
    Sepherus: crap, wrong window ;P
    deft: i should just post our conversation on slashdot
    deft: think we'll get modded up this late in the story?
    Sepherus: Perhaps, there may be some moderators in Athe middle of the jungle just waking up ;P

    --

    There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
  172. Re:Use Jabber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's cool, but you will never find any hot chicks on Jabber. Just a bunch of computer geeks.

  173. Revolutionary? I suppose that's one way to say it by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

    Sounds like it would be reviving the most-missed aspect of the local BBS.

  174. still down??? by Rudy+Rodarte · · Score: 1

    Man, the registration server still be down. Its past 20:00 hrs here in Austin, TX and no luck.
    Maybe tomorrow I'll meet all the Goatse fans on this thing.

  175. Re:Amazing (AMAZINGLY BORING...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you ever consider the possibility that you're a miserable bastard? Instead of optimizing your gut, how about working on your personality?

  176. Not safe anywhere? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your ideas won't save your from people like the girl in Swimfan who was could stalk people online and off. :)

  177. That's sweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks. Geeks have always been my favorite people. :-)

  178. Would somebody PLEASE by bethanie · · Score: 1

    mod down this entire thread -- or at least the last 50 posts of it? Since when did Slashdot become MikeFM's personal nutritional/relationship/rehabilitation service??

    And a message to Mike -- Dude. You better get your ass back to work, because I bet there's about 150 other guys on Slashdot right now out of work who would take your place in a heartbeat!

    Just keepin' it real.

    ....Bethanie....

    1. Re:Would somebody PLEASE by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Hey, trust me I was surprised at how long this thread got. No idea why it all sprung from a small on topic post. Ohhh well I have the karma to burn so I guess I don't care. It's probably the longest somewhat pointless thread I've ever had on Slashdot.

      I work constantly. I'm just good at multitasking. I can do several things at once without loss of speed. I doubt anybody would want to take my place though. :)

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
  179. Age/Sex/Location Check? Lan Party it is! by Flyph · · Score: 1

    The Trepia program essentially turns network users into homing beacons. If they're sitting at their PCs and running the software, they broadcast their general locations along with whatever personal data they choose to make available. If two or more Trepia users happen to be near each other, they instantly become aware of that fact and are able to interact.
    So if two Trepia-using college students who share a passion for the "Matrix" movies and the "Smallville" TV show are on the same campuswide network, they can electronically see each other. They are able to swap text messages and, soon, physically meet.

    So in the dorms if all the geeks on saturday nite share the same passion for "HOT CHICKS," they would "swap text messages and, soon, physically meet?"

    Isn't that what they call LAN parties?
    woo... we're reinventing the wheel! =P

  180. Trepia owns everything you say by sheol · · Score: 1
    Cut straight from the EULA in the Trepia application:


    ANY INFORMATION OR MATERIAL SUBMITTED OR SENT TO TREPIA, INC., WILL BE DEEMED NOT TO BE CONFIDENTIAL OR SECRET. By submitting or entering information into the Trepia Application or the Trepia Website, or into the Trepia Service you (1) warrant that you have no rights of any kind to the Material; that to the best of your knowledge no other party has any rights to the Material; (2) grant Trepia, Inc. an unrestricted, perpetual, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, adapt, modify, transmit and distribute the Material in all media, and you further agree that Trepia, Inc. is free to use any ideas, know-how, concepts, techniques or other materials you send us for any purpose.

  181. Patent Pending by Pitr · · Score: 1

    As I read it in the EULA (too lazy to cut 'n paste, but if you care you've probably already installed it anyway), the idea behind this cute little app is "Patent Pending". Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but assuming I'm right, isn't that yet another crappy patent app?

    I mean I think it's a great idea, and I hope the company does well, but I think people should be allowed to make their own clients etc. (which is specifically naughty under the EULA).

    I don't even know where the line between patentable and not is anymore(officially as opposed to what we've seen in practise in recent years).

    --

    --Not to be worried, Pitr fix.
  182. Sausage Fest! by Dimentox · · Score: 1

    Its a sausage fest though the one chick i talked to nrd heh is cool. Is she was a chick LOL!

    --
    string sig = llGetSig("dimentox"); llSay(0,sig);
  183. Around me? Define "around" by murcon · · Score: 1

    I installed this, logged on, and found 121 people around me! Considering I'm in the backwater of SW Michigan, this was surprising. Oh, look: some of them are in Texas, one's in Europe. How's this thing work, again?