Read a post up that said Mozilla didn't display the page properly. So I thought to myself, maybe MS isn't being bad and maybe they are just blocking browsers that don't work real well with their site. Fired up proxomitron, fed it a "Microsoft approved" user agent and Opera displayed the page fine. I haven't dug into it to see if all the scripts work, but it seems to display fine.
Just tried Netscape 4.75 and it was fine. Opera 4.01 did not. Kind of surprised me but here is the message:
Attention: Web Browser Upgrade Required to View MSN.com
If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below.
They are in the service packs. Service pack 2 for win2k, service pack 2 for ie 5.01 or 5.5 or upgrading to ie6 all fix this problem. We have the service packs installed, plenty of attacks, none successful.
Well... if I may stand up for them, both Wonderful and Armstrong have 9 letters each, which means September. The word World is also in World Trade Center. If you take out "hat Wonde ful World" you are left with "WAr". It's right there in front of your eyes man!
Because a radio station
decides to alter its playlist (probably only for a few weeks) to try to be sensitive to its listeners???
Even though I am on the fence on this one, people aren't upset because A radio station altered it's playlist, but a corporation that owns 1200 radio stations nationwide. I don't think this really affects me, as the only Clear Channel owned radio here as far as I know, is a top 40 station that wouldn't play the majority of these songs anyways. But what about a community that has ALL stations owned by Clear Channel?
The thing that bothers me about this is just the selection of songs that they are not playing. If they stop playing every song that mentions war, fire, death or dying, tuesday, airplanes, fighting, guns, violence, Heaven or Hell, falling, and flying, and anything else they think MAY be similar to the tragedy, they are not going to have a whole lot left to choose from.
That said, one part of me say this is probably in good taste and the playlists will get back to normal in a few weeks. The other part of me knows that events like this shape music. The Vietnam war was a catalyst for really great music of that time. The songs that were written during that time really capture the emotion of the day. Being just of the age that I really don't remember much of what happened then, the music that was written helps me to understand what was going on then. What's going to happen when some of todays artist's write music that captures the feelings we are having today and the owner of 1200 stations around the country decides that we can't handle it? That would be a tragedy.
No he is wrong. We are not intent on subduing the Islamic world. We would love it if everyone stopped fighting now and got along peacefully. We are intent on ensuring safety to our civilians on our soil. Witnessing the severity of this attack, we have to consider what is next. Poisoning of our water? Germ warfare? If he could get a nuclear bomb over here I am sure he would detonate it. This was not some pot shot to get our attention, this is by far the biggest terrorist event ever. He(assuming this was bin Laden, but meaning whoever is responsible) has obviously shown that they will stoop to any level and we will not sit around and wait for the next attack. He brought this to us. If this was meant to "wake us up", well we are now awake and it is going to get really ugly.
Ok, so half of the people that say we brought this on ourselves say it is because we stick our nose where it doesn't belong and the other half say we aren't doing our part. Which is it? I guess it depends on which side of the fence you are on and it is impossible to be on both sides.
Because it is apples and oranges even if the non-techies can't understand that. DoS attacking major sites is illegal for good reason and should be punished. The acts of this week show this. The internet was some of our only sources of good information and images of what was happening in New York and anything that would disrupt that is wrong.
Dmitry is accused of going against the DMCA which most here would agree is seriously flawed. While the intent of the DMCA is good, to protect copyrighted works (no flame wars on that, I understand not everyone agrees with this), I think we all understand that it's execution is too broad. Check here for more information.
Fundamentaly what Dmitry did is not wrong and what Mafiaboy hackerpants did is.
Not all Americans feel that way. I think that 8 months is just about right. He didn't do anything too heinous and this sentence will make him think about what he did and will make others think before they do something similar. I think as a teen and a hacker, I would be less inclined to do things like this if I knew there would be real punishment and not a real slap on the wrist like probation only or something similar. I think some people get desensitized to sentencing after hearing about others getting 10 years, 20 years or life for other crimes, but remember that this 8 months will affect his life and make him think again.
Not all murderers in the US get executed or even life. There are plenty of murderers that get ridiculously low sentences as well.
I have never downloaded a song from napster. When MP3's first came out I had a collection of about 30 or so from friends which were long ago wiped from my hard-drive. I do believe that artists should be paid for their work and will buy cd's rather than download and burn disks. I do however copy my cd's for use in my wifes car so that we don't scratch up the originals and copies are a hell of a lot easier to replace if stolen. I also take these to parties so if a disk gets lost or somehow damaged, I haven't lost the original. A $1.00 cdr is alot less expensive to replace than a $13 and up cd. I have many friends who have had their cars broken into. I am sure there are many others out there who do the same thing. Making personal copies is not piracy.
Agreed. We are a small company with 3 live web servers and 1 test server. Service pack 1 killed our app and took us about 2 days to figure out what it had done to make our app not work. Everything goes on the test server first and the live servers later even if it means waiting a day or two.
Security isn't just tampering with your vote. Votes can be encrypted easily and reliably. The problem is someone casting multiple votes. It is virtually impossible to be sure that the vote actually came from who sent it.
Say 75% of the rich vote (conservative I'm guessing) since the ballot box is in their computer room. The poor still has a ~50% turnout (liberal I'm guessing) since it requires going to the local school or whatever and waiting in line. Before it was pretty much ~50% turnout overall. See it yet?
Before I got my Bachelors Degree in Computer Information Systems I received an Associate Degree in Graphic Communications about 10 years ago at a community college. Back then the classes were geared to paper and ink (manually getting art from the artist to the printing press) type of printing and less geared toward electronic publishing (where the graphics program takes care of color separation, alignment and all the other details of getting art to a printing press). The class was not real technical, but covered the basics of paper, how it is made, how it is sold, how it reacts to being printed on and proper usage of different types of paper. It was a very interesting class (probably the most interesting that I had at that school) and I was fortunate enough to have a really great instructor.
One thing that goes with the paper used is the method of putting the characters on it. Toner will flake on high gloss paper. Books are printed with liquid ink that dries on the surface. You just have to pick the right paper for the job and there will be good paper for this. But I think for archiving books, this will not be the best printing method. For printing the one off manual or small run of books it will be perfect.
It reminds me of a story that one of my professors told in a paper class in college. He told us of a bible that was on sale at Odd Lots for practically nothing. For the average joe it sounded like a great deal. It was printed on newsprint to cut costs. Most bibles are bought and passed down through the family and should use paper that has a very long life. Newsprint as we all know turns yellow very quickly when exposed to light. (Newsprint is cheap because very little of the lignin, the glue that holds the tree together, is removed. Lignin is what turns yellow in the sun.) So the inexpensive bibles didn't sell for their original low price and were sold to Odd Lots for pennies because a poor choice was made concerning paper.
Google doesn't rely on ad revenue. That is one thing that keeps the service fast, no banner ads popping up across the top eating bandwidth. They make their money selling their search engine software to third parties and the public internet search engine is just a great showcase for their product. Hopefully the one thing that Google realizes is that there is no money in free internet services, but there is in selling their product. If they get this, we won't see any "portal" like moves from them, cluttering up their front page with links, banner ads and flash animations.
Actually, realty is one of the places that it makes the most sense to use the internet. Any home that is being sold by a realtor is already in an MLS (Multiple Lising Service) book and stored electronically in an MLS database. Realtors have had this available to them for a long time through a proprietary interface. So the information is already there and stored, no need to hire 500 monkeys to populate the database. This allows anyone to browse and find houses they MIGHT be interested in over the net, through a reliable, accurate database. This is the same database that realtors look through when trying to find a house for a client. They can then take this list to their realtor and set up times to go look at the houses.
This does not replace a realtor. Anyone buying a house should also have a realtor to help them out unless you have bought one many times. There are many things that can go into a contract for a house that the average joe will a) not understand b) probably not read since you sign a book to buy a house and c) not know to look for in the first place.
Having this online saves everyone time. The realtor doesn't have to drive you past 30 houses that HE (or she) thinks you MAY be interested in and you don't have to sit in a car all day on a Saturday checking them out. At realtor.com you just put in the area you are looking for, your price range and anything else you want (basement, garage, # of bathrooms, bedrooms, etc.) and it will give you a list to look through. Look through these and find the ones that YOU are really interested in. Now you have a list of a few homes that you really want to see and everyone saves time.
Many servers are not on the Internet and therefore not likely to be scanned. Banks and Insurance companies are likely to have many servers, but very few would sit out on the Internet and we wouldn't want them to. The problem then is, how do we tell what these servers are running. There are far more file, database, and application servers out there than there are web, ftp and mail servers.
Actually I saw a demo of it last Thursday at the Office XP release and went to a breakout session about how smart tags work behind the scenes. The whole point of smart tags is not so Microsoft can imbed links in everything, but so that programmers can build applications that use smart tag technology. We saw a demo of an application that was written by a freelance programmer (non-microsoft) that used the smart tag technology really well.
Smart tags are not black magic. Other programs can use them too and they are quite free. In fact smart tag links are stored as xml files, so I'm sure that in no time at all someone will have a free editor out that can change the "evil" Microsoft links.
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Read a post up that said Mozilla didn't display the page properly. So I thought to myself, maybe MS isn't being bad and maybe they are just blocking browsers that don't work real well with their site. Fired up proxomitron, fed it a "Microsoft approved" user agent and Opera displayed the page fine. I haven't dug into it to see if all the scripts work, but it seems to display fine.
Just tried Netscape 4.75 and it was fine. Opera 4.01 did not. Kind of surprised me but here is the message:
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They are in the service packs. Service pack 2 for win2k, service pack 2 for ie 5.01 or 5.5 or upgrading to ie6 all fix this problem. We have the service packs installed, plenty of attacks, none successful.
Well... if I may stand up for them, both Wonderful and Armstrong have 9 letters each, which means September. The word World is also in World Trade Center. If you take out "hat Wonde ful World" you are left with "WAr". It's right there in front of your eyes man!
Because a radio station
decides to alter its playlist (probably only for a few weeks) to try to be sensitive to its listeners???
Even though I am on the fence on this one, people aren't upset because A radio station altered it's playlist, but a corporation that owns 1200 radio stations nationwide. I don't think this really affects me, as the only Clear Channel owned radio here as far as I know, is a top 40 station that wouldn't play the majority of these songs anyways. But what about a community that has ALL stations owned by Clear Channel?
The thing that bothers me about this is just the selection of songs that they are not playing. If they stop playing every song that mentions war, fire, death or dying, tuesday, airplanes, fighting, guns, violence, Heaven or Hell, falling, and flying, and anything else they think MAY be similar to the tragedy, they are not going to have a whole lot left to choose from.
That said, one part of me say this is probably in good taste and the playlists will get back to normal in a few weeks. The other part of me knows that events like this shape music. The Vietnam war was a catalyst for really great music of that time. The songs that were written during that time really capture the emotion of the day. Being just of the age that I really don't remember much of what happened then, the music that was written helps me to understand what was going on then. What's going to happen when some of todays artist's write music that captures the feelings we are having today and the owner of 1200 stations around the country decides that we can't handle it? That would be a tragedy.
Jets falling from the sky in D.C. and you want to say maybe it wasn't risky to be at the White House?
No he is wrong. We are not intent on subduing the Islamic world. We would love it if everyone stopped fighting now and got along peacefully. We are intent on ensuring safety to our civilians on our soil. Witnessing the severity of this attack, we have to consider what is next. Poisoning of our water? Germ warfare? If he could get a nuclear bomb over here I am sure he would detonate it. This was not some pot shot to get our attention, this is by far the biggest terrorist event ever. He(assuming this was bin Laden, but meaning whoever is responsible) has obviously shown that they will stoop to any level and we will not sit around and wait for the next attack. He brought this to us. If this was meant to "wake us up", well we are now awake and it is going to get really ugly.
If you act like a bitch, you get smacked like a bitch.
Yes you do, bitch.
Ok, so half of the people that say we brought this on ourselves say it is because we stick our nose where it doesn't belong and the other half say we aren't doing our part. Which is it? I guess it depends on which side of the fence you are on and it is impossible to be on both sides.
Because it is apples and oranges even if the non-techies can't understand that. DoS attacking major sites is illegal for good reason and should be punished. The acts of this week show this. The internet was some of our only sources of good information and images of what was happening in New York and anything that would disrupt that is wrong.
Dmitry is accused of going against the DMCA which most here would agree is seriously flawed. While the intent of the DMCA is good, to protect copyrighted works (no flame wars on that, I understand not everyone agrees with this), I think we all understand that it's execution is too broad. Check here for more information.
Fundamentaly what Dmitry did is not wrong and what Mafiaboy hackerpants did is.
He will get laid in juvey though, if that is any consolation.....
Not all Americans feel that way. I think that 8 months is just about right. He didn't do anything too heinous and this sentence will make him think about what he did and will make others think before they do something similar. I think as a teen and a hacker, I would be less inclined to do things like this if I knew there would be real punishment and not a real slap on the wrist like probation only or something similar. I think some people get desensitized to sentencing after hearing about others getting 10 years, 20 years or life for other crimes, but remember that this 8 months will affect his life and make him think again.
Not all murderers in the US get executed or even life. There are plenty of murderers that get ridiculously low sentences as well.
This is bigger than Pearl Harbor. Probably thousands dead. Maybe tens of thousands.
I have never downloaded a song from napster. When MP3's first came out I had a collection of about 30 or so from friends which were long ago wiped from my hard-drive. I do believe that artists should be paid for their work and will buy cd's rather than download and burn disks. I do however copy my cd's for use in my wifes car so that we don't scratch up the originals and copies are a hell of a lot easier to replace if stolen. I also take these to parties so if a disk gets lost or somehow damaged, I haven't lost the original. A $1.00 cdr is alot less expensive to replace than a $13 and up cd. I have many friends who have had their cars broken into. I am sure there are many others out there who do the same thing. Making personal copies is not piracy.
Agreed. We are a small company with 3 live web servers and 1 test server. Service pack 1 killed our app and took us about 2 days to figure out what it had done to make our app not work. Everything goes on the test server first and the live servers later even if it means waiting a day or two.
Security isn't just tampering with your vote. Votes can be encrypted easily and reliably. The problem is someone casting multiple votes. It is virtually impossible to be sure that the vote actually came from who sent it.
Say 75% of the rich vote (conservative I'm guessing) since the ballot box is in their computer room. The poor still has a ~50% turnout (liberal I'm guessing) since it requires going to the local school or whatever and waiting in line. Before it was pretty much ~50% turnout overall. See it yet?
Before I got my Bachelors Degree in Computer Information Systems I received an Associate Degree in Graphic Communications about 10 years ago at a community college. Back then the classes were geared to paper and ink (manually getting art from the artist to the printing press) type of printing and less geared toward electronic publishing (where the graphics program takes care of color separation, alignment and all the other details of getting art to a printing press). The class was not real technical, but covered the basics of paper, how it is made, how it is sold, how it reacts to being printed on and proper usage of different types of paper. It was a very interesting class (probably the most interesting that I had at that school) and I was fortunate enough to have a really great instructor.
One thing that goes with the paper used is the method of putting the characters on it. Toner will flake on high gloss paper. Books are printed with liquid ink that dries on the surface. You just have to pick the right paper for the job and there will be good paper for this. But I think for archiving books, this will not be the best printing method. For printing the one off manual or small run of books it will be perfect.
It reminds me of a story that one of my professors told in a paper class in college. He told us of a bible that was on sale at Odd Lots for practically nothing. For the average joe it sounded like a great deal. It was printed on newsprint to cut costs. Most bibles are bought and passed down through the family and should use paper that has a very long life. Newsprint as we all know turns yellow very quickly when exposed to light. (Newsprint is cheap because very little of the lignin, the glue that holds the tree together, is removed. Lignin is what turns yellow in the sun.) So the inexpensive bibles didn't sell for their original low price and were sold to Odd Lots for pennies because a poor choice was made concerning paper.
Google doesn't rely on ad revenue. That is one thing that keeps the service fast, no banner ads popping up across the top eating bandwidth. They make their money selling their search engine software to third parties and the public internet search engine is just a great showcase for their product. Hopefully the one thing that Google realizes is that there is no money in free internet services, but there is in selling their product. If they get this, we won't see any "portal" like moves from them, cluttering up their front page with links, banner ads and flash animations.
Actually, realty is one of the places that it makes the most sense to use the internet. Any home that is being sold by a realtor is already in an MLS (Multiple Lising Service) book and stored electronically in an MLS database. Realtors have had this available to them for a long time through a proprietary interface. So the information is already there and stored, no need to hire 500 monkeys to populate the database. This allows anyone to browse and find houses they MIGHT be interested in over the net, through a reliable, accurate database. This is the same database that realtors look through when trying to find a house for a client. They can then take this list to their realtor and set up times to go look at the houses.
This does not replace a realtor. Anyone buying a house should also have a realtor to help them out unless you have bought one many times. There are many things that can go into a contract for a house that the average joe will a) not understand b) probably not read since you sign a book to buy a house and c) not know to look for in the first place.
Having this online saves everyone time. The realtor doesn't have to drive you past 30 houses that HE (or she) thinks you MAY be interested in and you don't have to sit in a car all day on a Saturday checking them out. At realtor.com you just put in the area you are looking for, your price range and anything else you want (basement, garage, # of bathrooms, bedrooms, etc.) and it will give you a list to look through. Look through these and find the ones that YOU are really interested in. Now you have a list of a few homes that you really want to see and everyone saves time.
MFILAR (my father in-law is a realtor)
Many servers are not on the Internet and therefore not likely to be scanned. Banks and Insurance companies are likely to have many servers, but very few would sit out on the Internet and we wouldn't want them to. The problem then is, how do we tell what these servers are running. There are far more file, database, and application servers out there than there are web, ftp and mail servers.
Actually I saw a demo of it last Thursday at the Office XP release and went to a breakout session about how smart tags work behind the scenes. The whole point of smart tags is not so Microsoft can imbed links in everything, but so that programmers can build applications that use smart tag technology. We saw a demo of an application that was written by a freelance programmer (non-microsoft) that used the smart tag technology really well.
Smart tags are not black magic. Other programs can use them too and they are quite free. In fact smart tag links are stored as xml files, so I'm sure that in no time at all someone will have a free editor out that can change the "evil" Microsoft links.
Any program can update smart tags. And smart tags support multiple links so in your scenario, the links would point to provider B and C.