My wife has actually baked bread in the crock pot, and it tasted just like normal home made bread. Yes I have an oven also, and I know that there are times when an oven is appropriate. But I like to be home when it is operating.
It's called a Crock pot. Ribs, soup, chili, stew, chicken, it beats other types of cooking hands down. Set it in the morning, it is done when I get home. The food doesn't get burnt. You can get one for less than $40. What is the upside of this oven?
Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.
I know several engineers who work on the missle defense project. They have performed several tests. Basically someone fires a ballastic missle, the radar detects it and the interceptors knock them down.They have had some sucessful tests, although some people question if the tests are realistic.
I tell you though, what these guys can do does almost seem like magic. What they do is really impressive. Kind of like tracking and shooting a bullet out of the air fired from someone elses rifle. The collision speeds are huge.
but doesn't like to mention in the same discussion that he's a Mormon- a religion which used to promote treating women like cattle and marrying as many as you like.
OK, I do not live in MA so I cannot speak to your other points, but let me respond to this.
but doesn't like to mention in the same discussion that he's a Mormon
Are you normally in the custom of mentioning to which religion you belong every time you make a point? Why is his religion even an issue? Either you agree with a persons policies or you don't.
Also, both John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are Catholics. Why don't you complain when they mention their opposition to the war, they don't mention the Crusades or the Inquisition?
The LDS church publicly announced http://scriptures.lds.org/od/1 in October 1890 that no more plural marraiges would be performed. If you marry more than one woman than you will be excommunicated.
marrying as many as you like.
According to the best records we have, the vast majority of marraiges were limited to 2 wives, with three being the exception. More than three was extremely rare. Brigham Young allowed women to divorce their husbands, but never the other way around.
promote treating women like cattle
This is particularly offensive. The implication is that Romney and Mormons in general still believes women are like cattle. That wasn't true then, and it isn't true now.
A visitor named Charles Farrer Brown (aka Artemus Ward) once wrote after spending one month in Utah during the late 1850's wrote "Apparently Mormon women are happy . ..I saw plurality at its best, and I give it to you at its best." He was kind of a Dave Barry of his time and began to light heartedly tease the Mormons. Much of what was written against the Mormons at the time was written by people who had not actually been to Utah or were there for only a brief amount of time (like Mark Twain who was only ther for two days.)
Women in Utah Territory received the vote in February 1870. The Federal Government took sufferage away in 1887. (It was regained in 1895).
Men are constantly reminded to treat their own wife with respect, care and love. The implication is that if you don't, you will go to hell. The women of the church belong to one of the old and largest women's organizations in the world. It is dedicated to service and education. In fact, the women of the church often know of a problem before the Bishop does. On Sundays when the women split from the men, they have their own designated room with padded chairs the male teenagers have already set up for them with an upright piano. The "chauvanistic" men meet on the basketball court with metal fold up chairs and sing acapella. The women in the LDS Church have a very important role. Anyone who tells you differently is not telling you the truth.
Next time you make an off-handed comment about Mormons, seek one out and ask questions.
I do like to respond with specifics, not vague generalities like "lots of different sources" and "Everything I have seen" and "doublethink".
I do not speak for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I am only voicing my own opinion. I served a two year mission in Argentina, and I teach 50-60 adults every week in the "advanced" Sunday School.
Now, to respond to specifics,
"How many Gods are there?"
The exact number I do not know, but we are to assume that there are many.
Which of the Gods do we worship?
We worship three of the Gods, God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Ghost. Any other representation of a Mormon concept of deity is dishonest. I pray to my Heavenly Father, through the redemptive power of Jesus Christ. I listen for answers through the Holy Spirit.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion. No ifs ands or buts.
This is demonstrably false. Both Jews and Muslims would say (and probably have said) that we Christians (notice how I lump us together) are not monotheists.
But a careful reading of the Bible helps reveal other hints. The word "Elohim" is actually a plural Hebrew word meaning "Gods". In psalm 8 the word "angels" could also be translated as "Gods". Saint Irenaeus, Saint Justin Martyr, Saint Clement of Alexandria, Saint Athanasius, Saint Cyril of Alexandria, Saint Maximus the Confessor, and Saint Symeon the New Theologian all believed in the process of "Deification" where man could become like God. In fact the Catholics have also put that in their latest Catechism in article 460. Paul exhorts us to become heirs of God and joint-heirs of Christ, and we will inherit all things just as Christ does. So why do you then complain when LDS believe that there is more than one God? (But yes, we only worship God the Father).
I am puzzled by the comment he copied a lot of it from other sources From where did he learn to write Chiasmus? Where did he learn other Semitic language constructs? Did he learn them at the vast research library at the University of Palmyra? Or the Harmony, Pennsylania Institute of Technology? Of course not. These two little towns were essentially frontier land with mostly uneducated farmers as inhabitants. Where was the money Joseph would have had to buy the books? Reportedly the day after he received the plates he contracted with a woman to dig a well. These were poor people. By "other sources" do you mean "A View of the Hebrews"? The book really has nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. Once you begin to read it, if you are familiar with the Book of Mormon many, many differences appear. In fact, to illustrate that fact BYU actually published the book!! Few people today believe the Spaulding "manusript" influenced the Book of Mormon for the exact reason - they bear too few superficial resemblances and far too many differences to be seriously considered as "sources". So, what are the sources that Joseph copied and pasted from?
I believe the time to post on this topic is rapidly coming to an end. Plus we are really, really off topic. If you want to continue this conversation just send me a message via Slashdot.
I don't know how many other people will read this, but I feel that I must respond. It seems as if you are using circular reasoning. Mormons are wrong, therefore their Book of Mormon "studies" are wrong - and since their studies are wrong, the Mormons are wrong.
I believe you are talking about farms.byu.edu and you do them a great diservice by simply dismissing them with a wave of your hand. There are a myriad of well-reasoned, logical papers printed on the Book of Mormon available on that web site. However, as someone I have much respect for once wrote, "You cannot prove the genuineness of any document to one who has decided not to accept it. . . When a man asks for proof we can be pretty sure that proof is the last thing in the world he really wants. His request is thrown out as a challenge, and the chances are that he has no intention of being shown up."
I could write about chiasmus, colophones, word prints, methods of war, olive tree cultivation, proper names, place names, organized crime, Semitic grammar, Uto-Aztecan and Hebrew, festivals, journeys through the Arabian peninsula, and witnesses. The Book of Mormon is easily dismissed by those who want to dismiss it because it raises too many difficult questions for themselves. If you actually read the book, the whole book, and not just what someone else told you about it, you would find it difficult to believe a 23 year old hick from the sticks in 1829 could write it.
But hey, do what you want to do. It's not like this means anything.
I've been thinking about this for a long while. I wonder what would happen if the US (like some commentators have suggested) embark on a "Manhattan Project" for energy. If the US highly encouraged oil exploration, solar, wind, nuclear, hybrid (like the plug into your wall to charge the batteries), Sterling engine, biodiesel, thermal depolermersation (you know, turkey offal and sewage into oil), microwaves and mining the moon and Jupiter for fusion fuel. What would happen if through alternative energy initiatives we could drive the price of oil down to $10 a barrel. I'm not saying it will happen, or even if it could happen, but what would happen to the Saudis, Iran, Venezuela and all the other dictatorships that run on oil? What would happen if America could export its energy technology instead of importing oil?
or do you have the hostess do a cost benefit analysis of the bean, cheese and ranch dips? And berate her in front of everyone if she hasn't? Look, the article wasn't a spec requirement, nor a doctoral thesis, nor a request for more funding. It was a public relations, "Hey, this is what cool things we are working on, and we think it will be good for the following reasons. .." I'm sure that the real decision makers will ask for more information, like a cost benefit analysis. They already said in the article, "just adding more thickness doesn't always help." Remember, while armor protects, speed kills. Or other people in the government or aerospace who may frequent the website have similar interests may read that and think, "hmm, we might be able use that here. .."
Well, according to the article, the aluminum took armor piercing rounds from a 50 cal Browning Sniper rifle without breaking like the glass armor did. Also it weighs less, it doesn't scratch as much, (providing better visibility), it has a longer lifetime so it doesn't have to be replaced as often and therfore may be cheaper in the long run. Read the article next time - it answers a lot of your questions.
If not there'll always be applications elsewhere... household wallpaper for one.
No KIDDING! Forget the newspapers, that is probably the secondary or tertiary use for this. I figure that this would put regular TVs at home in obsolesence.
The more you know about the series the better you will understand what is going on. But really, that is more from a character perspective than a plot perspective. The movie happens six months after the last episode, and does a fairly good job of explaining what happened to whom. There may be a few spoilers of the series, but nothing too bad. Like I said, I saw an acquaintance at the preview and he went in to the movie knowing pretty much nothing about the show. He went to Best Buy the next morning to buy the DVD's.
I got to see Serenity three weeks ago and it was GREAT!! Seriously, go tell everyone you know to see it because the movie business requires a great opening weekend or else they quickly disappear. And if it disappears, no sequels.
One of my acquaintances also saw the special preview and he went out and bought the DVD's of the series.
Quick question, I heard that there are eight different versions of the movie that they were previewing, and that they were going to gauge audience reaction before the final release. Is that true?
Oh, thank you for posting this. I saw a very similar article posted on the wall of the physics department wall a decade ago. I've never seen any follow up information. Do you have a link or some sort of article?
I slipped and wrenched my back this morning, so I've taken some pain medication, but the first thing that popped into my head when i saw the headline was a vast raft of algae carrying standard size shipping containers across the ocean. I must be in pretty bad shape.
I'm too lazy to look up a reference, but basically Bush 41 went to visit Kuwait when Clinton was president. (first term, I think). Anyway, Saddam's security forces tried and botched an assasination attempt while Bush Sr. was there. Clinton responded with some tomahawks against some military sites.
I cannot speak for the other organizations, but I worked at the IAEA in Vienna briefly during the 90's. But if the UN were to run the internet like they do the IAEA then that would be a bad thing for the internet.
Too bad you are an Anonymous Coward because you deserve a +5 for this. Yes, this is the key. Parental involvement is extremely important. Everyone in education keeps asking for more money. I wonder what would happen if we got more involvement. I have a three year old and I wonder if I am doing what I need to do to prepare him for his future.
I think now is a good time to remind people that the war on terrorism could not have prevented this.
I think now is a good time to remind people that humans in general have preconceived opinions about how the world functions. Therefore many people of different belief systems will take the same event and interpret the event in completely different ways. In fact many pundits will take this event and see "See! See this news article! This event competely verifies my world view. The world should now follow my advice because I accurately predicted this event."
I don't have any good advice, I just wanted to point that out.
I don't believe in sicing dogs on black people. I don't believe in murdering gay people. WOOAAHH, WOOAAAHH, WOOAAHH there. Sicing dogs on black people? Where did you hear that? Have you ever been to Utah? I lived there for several years in Utah and I NEVER heard anything like that. In fact many of my fellow church members seem to be ultra-paranoid about how they treat Americans of African descent. You probably didn't know this but the KKK attacked Mormons too.
You also imply Mormons murder gay people. Where did you hear that? Do you have any proof? Any newspaper articles? Or was it just something you heard. I had an uncle who was gay and lived in SLC. He died of AIDS, not homocide.
I am a true conservative and freaks like you who don't bother to learn what really goes on in a place give people like me a bad name.
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My wife has actually baked bread in the crock pot, and it tasted just like normal home made bread. Yes I have an oven also, and I know that there are times when an oven is appropriate. But I like to be home when it is operating.
It's called a Crock pot. Ribs, soup, chili, stew, chicken, it beats other types of cooking hands down. Set it in the morning, it is done when I get home. The food doesn't get burnt. You can get one for less than $40. What is the upside of this oven?
Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.
I know several engineers who work on the missle defense project. They have performed several tests. Basically someone fires a ballastic missle, the radar detects it and the interceptors knock them down.They have had some sucessful tests, although some people question if the tests are realistic.
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I tell you though, what these guys can do does almost seem like magic. What they do is really impressive. Kind of like tracking and shooting a bullet out of the air fired from someone elses rifle. The collision speeds are huge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Def
but doesn't like to mention in the same discussion that he's a Mormon- a religion which used to promote treating women like cattle and marrying as many as you like.
.I saw plurality at its best, and I give it to you at its best." He was kind of a Dave Barry of his time and began to light heartedly tease the Mormons. Much of what was written against the Mormons at the time was written by people who had not actually been to Utah or were there for only a brief amount of time (like Mark Twain who was only ther for two days.)
OK, I do not live in MA so I cannot speak to your other points, but let me respond to this.
but doesn't like to mention in the same discussion that he's a Mormon
Are you normally in the custom of mentioning to which religion you belong every time you make a point? Why is his religion even an issue? Either you agree with a persons policies or you don't.
Also, both John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are Catholics. Why don't you complain when they mention their opposition to the war, they don't mention the Crusades or the Inquisition?
The LDS church publicly announced http://scriptures.lds.org/od/1 in October 1890 that no more plural marraiges would be performed. If you marry more than one woman than you will be excommunicated.
marrying as many as you like.
According to the best records we have, the vast majority of marraiges were limited to 2 wives, with three being the exception. More than three was extremely rare. Brigham Young allowed women to divorce their husbands, but never the other way around.
promote treating women like cattle
This is particularly offensive. The implication is that Romney and Mormons in general still believes women are like cattle. That wasn't true then, and it isn't true now.
A visitor named Charles Farrer Brown (aka Artemus Ward) once wrote after spending one month in Utah during the late 1850's wrote "Apparently Mormon women are happy . .
Women in Utah Territory received the vote in February 1870. The Federal Government took sufferage away in 1887. (It was regained in 1895).
Men are constantly reminded to treat their own wife with respect, care and love. The implication is that if you don't, you will go to hell. The women of the church belong to one of the old and largest women's organizations in the world. It is dedicated to service and education. In fact, the women of the church often know of a problem before the Bishop does. On Sundays when the women split from the men, they have their own designated room with padded chairs the male teenagers have already set up for them with an upright piano. The "chauvanistic" men meet on the basketball court with metal fold up chairs and sing acapella. The women in the LDS Church have a very important role. Anyone who tells you differently is not telling you the truth.
Next time you make an off-handed comment about Mormons, seek one out and ask questions.
I do like to respond with specifics, not vague generalities like "lots of different sources" and "Everything I have seen" and "doublethink".
I do not speak for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I am only voicing my own opinion. I served a two year mission in Argentina, and I teach 50-60 adults every week in the "advanced" Sunday School.
Now, to respond to specifics,
"How many Gods are there?"
The exact number I do not know, but we are to assume that there are many.
Which of the Gods do we worship?
We worship three of the Gods, God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Ghost. Any other representation of a Mormon concept of deity is dishonest. I pray to my Heavenly Father, through the redemptive power of Jesus Christ. I listen for answers through the Holy Spirit.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion. No ifs ands or buts.
This is demonstrably false. Both Jews and Muslims would say (and probably have said) that we Christians (notice how I lump us together) are not monotheists.
But a careful reading of the Bible helps reveal other hints. The word "Elohim" is actually a plural Hebrew word meaning "Gods". In psalm 8 the word "angels" could also be translated as "Gods". Saint Irenaeus, Saint Justin Martyr, Saint Clement of Alexandria, Saint Athanasius, Saint Cyril of Alexandria, Saint Maximus the Confessor, and Saint Symeon the New Theologian all believed in the process of "Deification" where man could become like God. In fact the Catholics have also put that in their latest Catechism in article 460. Paul exhorts us to become heirs of God and joint-heirs of Christ, and we will inherit all things just as Christ does. So why do you then complain when LDS believe that there is more than one God? (But yes, we only worship God the Father).
I am puzzled by the comment he copied a lot of it from other sources From where did he learn to write Chiasmus? Where did he learn other Semitic language constructs? Did he learn them at the vast research library at the University of Palmyra? Or the Harmony, Pennsylania Institute of Technology? Of course not. These two little towns were essentially frontier land with mostly uneducated farmers as inhabitants. Where was the money Joseph would have had to buy the books? Reportedly the day after he received the plates he contracted with a woman to dig a well. These were poor people. By "other sources" do you mean "A View of the Hebrews"? The book really has nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. Once you begin to read it, if you are familiar with the Book of Mormon many, many differences appear. In fact, to illustrate that fact BYU actually published the book!! Few people today believe the Spaulding "manusript" influenced the Book of Mormon for the exact reason - they bear too few superficial resemblances and far too many differences to be seriously considered as "sources". So, what are the sources that Joseph copied and pasted from?
I believe the time to post on this topic is rapidly coming to an end. Plus we are really, really off topic. If you want to continue this conversation just send me a message via Slashdot.
I don't know how many other people will read this, but I feel that I must respond. It seems as if you are using circular reasoning. Mormons are wrong, therefore their Book of Mormon "studies" are wrong - and since their studies are wrong, the Mormons are wrong.
I believe you are talking about farms.byu.edu and you do them a great diservice by simply dismissing them with a wave of your hand. There are a myriad of well-reasoned, logical papers printed on the Book of Mormon available on that web site. However, as someone I have much respect for once wrote, "You cannot prove the genuineness of any document to one who has decided not to accept it. . . When a man asks for proof we can be pretty sure that proof is the last thing in the world he really wants. His request is thrown out as a challenge, and the chances are that he has no intention of being shown up."
I could write about chiasmus, colophones, word prints, methods of war, olive tree cultivation, proper names, place names, organized crime, Semitic grammar, Uto-Aztecan and Hebrew, festivals, journeys through the Arabian peninsula, and witnesses. The Book of Mormon is easily dismissed by those who want to dismiss it because it raises too many difficult questions for themselves. If you actually read the book, the whole book, and not just what someone else told you about it, you would find it difficult to believe a 23 year old hick from the sticks in 1829 could write it.
But hey, do what you want to do. It's not like this means anything.
I've been thinking about this for a long while. I wonder what would happen if the US (like some commentators have suggested) embark on a "Manhattan Project" for energy. If the US highly encouraged oil exploration, solar, wind, nuclear, hybrid (like the plug into your wall to charge the batteries), Sterling engine, biodiesel, thermal depolermersation (you know, turkey offal and sewage into oil), microwaves and mining the moon and Jupiter for fusion fuel. What would happen if through alternative energy initiatives we could drive the price of oil down to $10 a barrel. I'm not saying it will happen, or even if it could happen, but what would happen to the Saudis, Iran, Venezuela and all the other dictatorships that run on oil? What would happen if America could export its energy technology instead of importing oil?
or do you have the hostess do a cost benefit analysis of the bean, cheese and ranch dips? And berate her in front of everyone if she hasn't? Look, the article wasn't a spec requirement, nor a doctoral thesis, nor a request for more funding. It was a public relations, "Hey, this is what cool things we are working on, and we think it will be good for the following reasons. . ." I'm sure that the real decision makers will ask for more information, like a cost benefit analysis. They already said in the article, "just adding more thickness doesn't always help." Remember, while armor protects, speed kills. Or other people in the government or aerospace who may frequent the website have similar interests may read that and think, "hmm, we might be able use that here. . ."
Settle down Beavis.
Well, according to the article, the aluminum took armor piercing rounds from a 50 cal Browning Sniper rifle without breaking like the glass armor did. Also it weighs less, it doesn't scratch as much, (providing better visibility), it has a longer lifetime so it doesn't have to be replaced as often and therfore may be cheaper in the long run. Read the article next time - it answers a lot of your questions.
If not there'll always be applications elsewhere... household wallpaper for one.
No KIDDING! Forget the newspapers, that is probably the secondary or tertiary use for this. I figure that this would put regular TVs at home in obsolesence.
The more you know about the series the better you will understand what is going on. But really, that is more from a character perspective than a plot perspective. The movie happens six months after the last episode, and does a fairly good job of explaining what happened to whom. There may be a few spoilers of the series, but nothing too bad. Like I said, I saw an acquaintance at the preview and he went in to the movie knowing pretty much nothing about the show. He went to Best Buy the next morning to buy the DVD's.
Have fun!!
I got to see Serenity three weeks ago and it was GREAT!! Seriously, go tell everyone you know to see it because the movie business requires a great opening weekend or else they quickly disappear. And if it disappears, no sequels.
One of my acquaintances also saw the special preview and he went out and bought the DVD's of the series.
Quick question, I heard that there are eight different versions of the movie that they were previewing, and that they were going to gauge audience reaction before the final release. Is that true?
Oh, thank you for posting this. I saw a very similar article posted on the wall of the physics department wall a decade ago. I've never seen any follow up information. Do you have a link or some sort of article?
I slipped and wrenched my back this morning, so I've taken some pain medication, but the first thing that popped into my head when i saw the headline was a vast raft of algae carrying standard size shipping containers across the ocean. I must be in pretty bad shape.
Well, hold on seal clubber, let me whip up a batch of dry noodles so you can go back to fighting the weretacos.
I'm too lazy to look up a reference, but basically Bush 41 went to visit Kuwait when Clinton was president. (first term, I think). Anyway, Saddam's security forces tried and botched an assasination attempt while Bush Sr. was there. Clinton responded with some tomahawks against some military sites.
Yeah, like Korea, Italy, Germany and Japan!!
It was on TV late at night about 15 years ago when I was still a teen. I was wondering what that was until I saw the movie with Depp.
Still, I don't know if Plan 9 is truly the worst movie ever. I have to agree with the MST3K crew that there are several others even worse, like Manos.
I cannot speak for the other organizations, but I worked at the IAEA in Vienna briefly during the 90's. But if the UN were to run the internet like they do the IAEA then that would be a bad thing for the internet.
Too bad you are an Anonymous Coward because you deserve a +5 for this. Yes, this is the key. Parental involvement is extremely important. Everyone in education keeps asking for more money. I wonder what would happen if we got more involvement. I have a three year old and I wonder if I am doing what I need to do to prepare him for his future.
I think now is a good time to remind people that the war on terrorism could not have prevented this.
I think now is a good time to remind people that humans in general have preconceived opinions about how the world functions. Therefore many people of different belief systems will take the same event and interpret the event in completely different ways. In fact many pundits will take this event and see "See! See this news article! This event competely verifies my world view. The world should now follow my advice because I accurately predicted this event."
I don't have any good advice, I just wanted to point that out.
Wow, no mod points yet, but I thought it was really funny.
WOW!! Hey, I was 1992-94 BsAS Norte; Benavidez, San Pedro, Arrecifes, La Boca, Tortugitas. . .
I don't believe in sicing dogs on black people. I don't believe in murdering gay people.
WOOAAHH, WOOAAAHH, WOOAAHH there. Sicing dogs on black people? Where did you hear that? Have you ever been to Utah? I lived there for several years in Utah and I NEVER heard anything like that. In fact many of my fellow church members seem to be ultra-paranoid about how they treat Americans of African descent. You probably didn't know this but the KKK attacked Mormons too.
You also imply Mormons murder gay people. Where did you hear that? Do you have any proof? Any newspaper articles? Or was it just something you heard. I had an uncle who was gay and lived in SLC. He died of AIDS, not homocide.
I am a true conservative and freaks like you who don't bother to learn what really goes on in a place give people like me a bad name.