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Miss Digital World 2005

dnix writes "With the slogan: "Don't hate me because I'm digital" this year we have a nice new Top Digital Model, called Mi, from Shinichi Yoshimoto. She is a nice cybernetic geisha who was chosen from 15 finalists from Italy, Germany, Spain, Pakistan, Iran, Usa, Chile, India, Australia, Brasil and Mexico."

308 comments

  1. Only way by squoozer · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is about the only way most /.ians will ever get a girl. Now we just need half way decent VR and a "touch suit" (I should TM that name) and were well away.

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    1. Re:Only way by glass_window · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a shame we just slashdotted her.

    2. Re:Only way by TheBigDuck · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got a girl. I'm so stupid, I even married her. I wish I could trade her for a high end computer. They are less noisy, use less of my money, and don't mind if I surf for porn. Don't get a girl. They are not as much fun as a computer.

    3. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come one, someone needs to say it - where is the virtual porn? I mean this girl is hot! If we make her look 16, is that virtual pedophilia?

    4. Re:Only way by portforward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.

    5. Re:Only way by somersault · · Score: 2

      "Kaya is ravishing. She has full lips, long lashes, and a slightly upturned nose" o_0 she looks like that russian lady out of dodgeball.. ? The others aren't great either. Gimme good ol fashioned flesh and bone anyday.. :p

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    6. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the uncommitted ones can be far more fun than a computer. They can also be far less fun, depending on the circumstances.

    7. Re:Only way by Meagermanx · · Score: 1, Troll

      So remember: If God tells you to kill them all, you'd best do it.

    8. Re:Only way by metternich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I question whether this stereotype is true. Most nerdy slashdot-reading guys I know, (myself included,) are either married or have girlfriends.

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    9. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      fricken' jesus people. Tell you what - you put God where you want him in your life, and let everybody else do the same. Save the preaching for Church, not slashdot.

    10. Re:Only way by squoozer · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC) but the stereo type is easy to make fun of and we all know someone like it.

      As for the stereo type being false I think it is, for the most part, but in some places it is 100% true. When I worked in industry most of the developers were fairly normal average people with a mixture of married and attached people with a couple of odd balls that you get every where. I then made the mistake of moving back into academia and it was like stepping into another world. I could count the number of married people on one hand. Most of the guys were just strange to say the very least. A few had partners but the relationships were anything but main stream. I'm not knocking them for beign different - the world is make from all sorts - but the stereo type isn't totally false.

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    11. Re:Only way by 21st+Century+Peon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Save the preaching for Church, not slashdot.

      Everyone preaches on Slashdot - it's just that the most popular sermon is "You are wrong and I am right."
      Of all the opinions that get bandied about in posts, "I like God - He's nifty," is fairly low on the list of offensivenesses.

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    12. Re:Only way by hachete · · Score: 1

      That's the only way /.ians will ever touch a female

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    13. Re:Only way by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A real woman can be in her twenties yet look like much younger than her age, even 16! I've met women like that.

        There would be no way to age a digital woman, since she/it isn't real it doesn't have an age. Not all twenty year old women look the same, people age differently.

        People of Asian origin tend to look younger to someone from European descent. If the digital woman was an Asian woman of 20 I'm sure it's possible she could look younger compared to a 20 year old European woman.

        Then you could get into the debate over body hair and how the lack of it makes someone look younger, pre-pubescent. Add that too an already young looking woman and you pretty much have an image of a very young girl but technically she is 20 years old.

        Other than making the digital woman ugly on purpose there's no way around this.

        I'm sure the porn websites will be the first to push the envelope on this one.

    14. Re:Only way by nurhussein · · Score: 1

      I dunno man, is it really worth it? The money, the time... when I could spend it on a nice dual G5? I'm pretty sure it'd be more fun than 99.999% of the available girls that I have half a chance with.

    15. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure about this? Call me ASAP.

      Best regards

    16. Re:Only way by Hans+Lehmann · · Score: 1

      No, Santa Clause comes first. He's better than God, because he gives presents.

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    17. Re:Only way by Dollar+Sign+TA · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Almost everyone can find *someone* who will marry them. After all, there are ugly, desperate girls as well. But, the question, how many chicks could these guys get before their current wife / girlfriend? Speaking as a girl in CS, I can say that while nerds have their advantages (intelligent and driven), they are also on average less social and, frankly, less attractive.

    18. Re:Only way by menkhaura · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC)

      You better RC, lest the world crumbles and falls upon your insensitive, un-loving head!

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    19. Re:Only way by WhiplashII · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sorry, you are wrong and I am right...

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    20. Re:Only way by metternich · · Score: 1

      Again, this is only my own experience, but most of the wives/fiances/girlfriends of my co-workers and programmer friends are reasonably hot.

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    21. Re:Only way by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I prefer to think that all the hot chicks were just too stupid when they were younger to realize what I catch I'd be :)

    22. Re:Only way by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Most nerdy slashdot-reading guys I know, (myself included,) are either married or have girlfriends.

      I like my women like I like my coffee - purchased at above-market rates from eco-friendly organic farming cooperatives in Latin America.

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    23. Re:Only way by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      >>Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.

      Bullshit.

      I'd trade my family off in a heartbeat, if only to get my TVR2500M or Lancia Scorpion back. You know, the cars I loved dearly that I had to sell to pay for the upkeep of my wife...

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    24. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC)

      Dude, 12 years? Grow a pair, muster up some commitment, and marry the babe. I'm surprised she hasn't dumped your ass if you've been GF/BF for over a decade!

      Unless you mean she's 12 years old, in which case I'd recommend waiting about 6 more years for that.

    25. Re:Only way by Kelson · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC)

      Her name isn't Adelaide, by any chance?

    26. Re:Only way by captfi · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Damn!
      Try not to justify your own meaningless child having, counseling attending, no ball having life but spreading your bullshit to others ok?

      Don't get married. Don't have kids. Buy anything you damn well want to, and make sure you pay cash for sex. It's a lot cheaper and a whole lot less stressfull.

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    27. Re:Only way by suitepotato · · Score: 1

      Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.

      fricken' jesus people. Tell you what - you put God where you want him in your life, and let everybody else do the same. Save the preaching for Church, not slashdot.

      Knee-jerk touchy are we? NOWHERE did that poster mention G-d. NOWHERE. It sounded to me like something any secular humanist might say, never mind your local pastor.

      AND... The poster is 100% correct. I can't see where I could ever come up with any rationale that made any coherent sense whatsoever that could argue in favor of "computers, jobs, video games, school" being more important the good solid human relationships.

      The whole reason for technology on which we live and thrive is to support us humans. If we lose sight of the importance of US, we then have no reason to do any of the technical things we do.

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    28. Re:Only way by chunews · · Score: 1
      I can't believe I'm allowing myself to post this reply because I'm really not trying to cause a flame war.

      My take on this is simply that God comes first because he gave us the best possible present.

    29. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry but you missed a reply there.

      fricken' jesus people. Tell you what - you put God where you want him in your life, and let everybody else do the same. Save the preaching for Church, not slashdot.

      is replying to

      anything? no....God comes first, even before the girl, the kids, everything

      which is a reply to

      Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.


      You skipped over a level of replies there. Now does that post you were bashing make more sense?

    30. Re:Only way by squoozer · · Score: 1

      As amazing as this may sound not every couple in the world makes a big thing of the anniversary of when they got together / got married. I know that for some it is a really special occasion but for us it's pretty much just another day. We do try and have the night off from other things so that we can watch a film and share a bottle of wine but that's about it. Maybe if it wasn't so close to christmas we would do more about it. I don't know.

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    31. Re:Only way by NMerriam · · Score: 2

      God comes first because he gave us the best possible present

      Yeah, but Santa's presents aren't booby-traps in disguise.

      God's present was "I'll give you free will, but if you choose anything other than what I want you to choose, I will send you to Hell for all eternity!". Gosh, thanks, God!

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    32. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

    33. Re:Only way by maxfear · · Score: 1

      Ahh but see this is where your wrong. Nerds can date attractive females, because they make more money then the average construction worker.

    34. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      God comes first, even before the girl, the kids, everything.

      To the extent that there is some kind of "God" entity out there in the universe (or in a parallel dimension or whatever), it would be very easy for this entity to tell what it wanted us to do unambiguously.

      It could give us all little ear pieces: "OK, Bob. This is God. When you get to the intersection of First and Main I want you to make a left turn. Remember, Bob, if you do what I tell you to do then it will make me very happy and if you don't then I will arrange for you to be tortured for all eternity after you die."

      So why doesn't this God entity, to the extent that it exists, tell us what it wants unambiguously?

      One possibility is that God just doesn't care about humans. I mean, do humans care about algae floating around in a ditch? After all, a God entity would have as much in common with humans as humans have with algae.

      Another possibility is that, for some reason, this God entity wants humans to make decisions using other criteria than its direct guidance. Maybe it even wants humans to use agreed upon factual observations to make their decisions.

      Humans are not able to observe how their actions affect this God entity but they can observe how their actions affect each other. Maybe, just maybe, this God entity wants humans to make their decisions based on factual observations of how their actions are likely to affect themselves and others.

      Maybe this God entity actually wants people to try to help each other based on factual observations and a desire to do their part to create a loving a compassionate world. Maybe it doesn't want people to try to interpret vague passages in religious texts in order to selfishly get rewards for themselves (or avoid being tortured) in the afterlife.

      On a practical note, most people aren't going to resent you for putting God first in your own life but you are going to create serious problems if you try to put God first in other people's lives.

      If you send the message to your "girl" and kids that your religious beliefs matter more than they do then they will either lose respect for you or sometime in the future they will turn the tables and care more about their own religious beliefs than they do about you and your welfare.

    35. Re:Only way by raoul666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but saying that hurts the ones who don't, so we keep it quiet. Also, if the rest of the world realized we're smarter, better paid, AND get girls, well...they'd rise up against their nerdy overlords.

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    36. Re:Only way by sd_diamond · · Score: 1

      Now we just need half way decent VR and a "touch suit" (I should TM that name)

      The suit is nothing. The real money will be made on the cleaning services.

    37. Re:Only way by DSP_Geek · · Score: 1

      Wow, that was great! You weren't even _trying_ to troll Slashdot, the fish just jumped into the bucket. Congratulations.

    38. Re:Only way by Mateito · · Score: 1

      I've met a large number of women who enjoy bursting zits. You just need to pander to their desire now and again, and tolerate the odd burst capillary.

    39. Re:Only way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After all, a God entity would have as much in common with humans as humans have with algae.

      "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genisis Ch1 V27

    40. Re:Only way by 100MphBackslidingTur · · Score: 1

      You being right doesn't make god any less nifty.

    41. Re:Only way by TheBigDuck · · Score: 0

      Wow dude, that is pretty messed up. It is hard to see if you are joking or not, (this being slashdot and all) but even if you were joking, you sound pretty angry about something. I strongly recommend marraige counseling, especially if you have kids. Comitted human relationships are much more important than computers, jobs, video games, school, anything.

      Wow. I didn't know women (or Dr Phil) read Slashdot.

      I believe my comments were under the NDA of the Universal Brotherhood of Men.

      I apologize if my comments offended, ma'am.

    42. Re:Only way by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Speak for yourself- I can't wait to "jack in" directly- Fuck your reality, I like mine better!

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  2. Sheesh by bugbeak · · Score: 2, Funny

    The one time I actually want to SEE what the deal is, and it's already long gone...

    (the article does NOT count)

  3. December... OF LAST YEAR by DarthStrydre · · Score: 2, Informative

    This might be interesting news, though I remember reading this article the first time, in December 2004. Is anyone ambitious enough to search and see if this is indeed a dupe too?

    1. Re:December... OF LAST YEAR by Arngautr · · Score: 1

      It says Nov 2004 at top of article!!! Way to go editors.

    2. Re:December... OF LAST YEAR by biraneto2 · · Score: 1

      Actually, this is not a dupe because it's Miss Digital World 2005, not 2004. And the winner this year is Mi, not Kaya. But the article linked is from 2004's final... But (again) the pictures look to be from 2005.

  4. Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by technoextreme · · Score: 3, Funny

    All you do is hit delete.

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    1. Re:Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unless you're OJ. Then it's slash, slash, backslash, escape.

    2. Re:Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Follow it up with a quick stop to Google in search of the "Real Killers".

    3. Re:Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by Kelson · · Score: 1

      Hitting delete certainly looks less suspicious than throwing all the equipment in a trunk and burying it at sea.

    4. Re:Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by TheUnknownCoder · · Score: 1

      Really funny! I wish I could mod you up to 11!

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    5. Re:Comitting virtual murder of Miss Digital World by Mr.+Fazer · · Score: 1

      backslash !?!? why?

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  5. I'm missing something by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Funny
    In fact, she exists only from the neck up

    That's a shame, because I usually start examining females from the neck down.

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    1. Re:I'm missing something by tpgp · · Score: 4, Informative

      In fact, she exists only from the neck up

      Pics of many of the finalists (including neck down) here

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    2. Re:I'm missing something by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Number 12 in that collection looks like some hot Russian chick from a James Bond movie.....

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    3. Re:I'm missing something by IngramJames · · Score: 2, Funny

      must.. resist... ..must... resist...

      Arrrgghhhh!

      Imagine a beowulf clust...

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    4. Re:I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The amusing thing about that link is under the pictures of the models I see an advert for children's (3-7 years old) learning software.

    5. Re:I'm missing something by nyri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pics of many of the finalists (including neck down) here

      Strange. Most of them look like that they have breast implants. Doesn't modelers know what a real brests look like? Maybe they shouldn't model and surf internet porn (usually girls with brest implants) all the time but try to have date (usually a girl without breast implants).

    6. Re:I'm missing something by slackadmin · · Score: 1

      I think that depends greatly on where you live. Having lived in Hollywood, CA for the last ten years, I would say the numbers I see here are much higher than many other areas of the country and the world.

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    7. Re:I'm missing something by kanelbulle · · Score: 1

      OK, but are those natural tits?

    8. Re:I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The top half does have some uses, such as an imput only device. ;)

  6. country matters by lovebyte · · Score: 1

    ... 15 finalists from Italy, Germany, Spain, Pakistan, Iran, Usa, Chile, India, Australia, Brasil and Mexico.

    The 15 finalists were from USA, Germany, France, Italy, India, Argentina, Brazil and Japan.

    Having carefully looked at the digi-babes, my vote would have gone to the French chick "Lea Duvall".

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    1. Re:country matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then u might wanna check this real chick http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0245149/ ,a well known porn star named Lacey Duvalle(..sounds familiar?)

  7. Mamegal should win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at well the pubic bulge was modeled... I bet the modeler had to actually construct the vulva, and then put clothes on it, to generate this effect.

    1. Re:Mamegal should win by gagypsy02 · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but the real challenge would be to build a virtual camel toe!

  8. Winning speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do cyber models also appeal for world peace in their winning speech?

    1. Re:Winning speech? by IngramJames · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do cyber models also appeal for world peace in their winning speech?

      No, they ask people not to play Medal Of Honour quite so much.

      And appeal for help defragging HDDs of those living in less technically literate parts of the world.

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  9. I think.... by botzy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I personally feel that Mamegal has an eating disorder and we should not be helping her illness.

  10. a mirror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was dead with 0 comments...

  11. Psycho Boyfriend ?!? by GreekPimpSlap · · Score: 3, Funny

    in this case the slashdot effect is like a psycho boyfriend... "IF I CANT VIEW HER, NO ONE WILL !"

  12. We need a hack to integrate ... by IAAP · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    this and mechanize it. I don't know, though a USB port, plug it in, and Ohhh! Think of the sex/porn possibilities!

  13. Makes one wonder... by archeopterix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any CNC that works in latex?

    1. Re:Makes one wonder... by technoextreme · · Score: 1
      Any CNC that works in latex?
      Im sure the pron industry will be able to help you out.
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    2. Re:Makes one wonder... by archeopterix · · Score: 1
      Any CNC that works in latex?

      Im sure the pron industry will be able to help you out.

      Hm... I've just done an extensive search and all I found was a "Penis casting kit". An interesting idea in itself, but requires the replicated object to already exist in 3D :-)
    3. Re:Makes one wonder... by cr0sh · · Score: 4, Informative
      I know you were posting "in jest", but if you really wanted to "homebrew" a latex version of one of these models (or almost any 3D model), everything does exist to do so in the comfort of one's garage or apartment (Note: If you are going to do this in an apartment, be prepared to have no space to do anything else except shower and sleep. Of course, since you are building a latex female doll, you probably have no life otherwise, so no BFD, right?).

      One would first need a homebrew CNC milling machine, with an X/Y bed of sized around 1 meter per side, and a Z travel for the milling head of around a foot. The milling head can be a simple dremel tool with either a tool extension or a way to tilt the tool or rotate the material to be worked on. It is assummed the doll will be built in sections (the why will be apparent). Enough information on building such a machine is easily available on the internet, parts can be sourced from surplus, structural material can be either "free", surplus, or new, and controlling software is freely available, and in some limited cases, easy to develop (I am sure someone has made simple CNC milling software using QBASIC controlling the parallel port, which is hooked to the servos).

      Once you have the CNC milling machine built (not an easy task alone, but sure to be rewarding!), you then need to choose the material to mill. The easiest and cheapest would be plaster of paris. Build half-thickness molds of plaster of paris, then reverse-impression mill them with the model. Alignment accuracy is important, as these molds will form the parts you are building, and the edges of the molds (after milling) must line up accurately. After milling, you will likely notice tool marks left behind, you will need to carefully (using dental picks, files, sandpaper, etc) smooth all of this out.

      Once you have all of these molds created, you can now start casting with latex (or, if you have the money, silicone rubber). Plenty of information on the internet about how to do this - just realize that latex in the large amounts needed won't be cheap. Also, realize that at this point, if you do things correctly, you can insert metal/plastic armatures (up to and including robotics!) into the molds prior to filling them with latex. These things would themselves have to be carefully engineered, but that is what your CNC machine is for, right? Come to think of it - you could eMachineShop the molds and the armature parts (at significant cost)...

      At this point, it is just pouring, assembly (got to learn how to apply hair, latex paint, where to get fake eyeballs, etc - but all of this too is available on the internet), etc. After all, you got time, right? You are somebody with not much of a life building his (or her) own RealDoll, right? Actually - you want to know what might make you some money? Troll the internet looking for all the information, from the ground up, to custom build such a doll. From building the CNC machine to how to make the casts, to pouring latex, etc - include sources, sample 3D model files, etc. Dump it all on a few CD-Rs or a DVD-R - then sell it in the adult section of Ebay.

      Remember - this will be the best prom evar...

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  14. 2005 winners??? by technoextreme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This website includes the winners of the 2005 website which were announced on December 10. Unless slashdot posted a dupe within the last four days then I'd seriously doubt it. Then again Digg probably had it first (sarcasm).

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    1. Re:2005 winners??? by doza · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think this is brilliant. I little pointless but brilliant.

      You can find some more great 3D stuff here. http://raph.com/3dartists/artgallery/ Some of the leading ladies are many years old.

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  15. How to test a server (heavy duty massive access) by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Funny

    1) Issue competition of best looking virtual girls
    2) Post full finalists roundup including pictures on server
    3) Post meta article on slashdot with link to said server
    4) Retreat to safe distance as server gets warm and shows cracks

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  16. iMoss by ettlz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Someone should give these models a virtual toilet where they can kneel down over the virtual lid and virtually snort virtual cocaine.

    1. Re:iMoss by madaxe42 · · Score: 1

      No, they need a mirror. They go down if they don't have one. Actually, screw it. Don't give them a mirror.

    2. Re:iMoss by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      They go down if they don't have one.

      If you don't mind risking electrocution. Take it from me and my burn-scarred wang, cyber babes and oral sex just don't mix.

      -Eric

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    3. Re:iMoss by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Here ya go One Mirror

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  17. Re:Brasil by CodeShark · · Score: 4, Informative
    Anglo-centric rubbish. It is only Brazil in English, and that might only be the American version. Ever here a native of the country or a Latin language (Spanish, Portugese, Italian, etc.) speaker pronounce the name?

    Brasil is absolutely correct.

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  18. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Bra[z|s]il, they spell it Brasil.

  19. I don't..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate you because youre digital. I hate you because I can't Have you.

  20. Re:Geography. by Malc · · Score: 1

    Isn't it spelt "Brasil" by Brazilians?

  21. I have a great idea! by joey_knisch · · Score: 1

    Let's find a site with digitally created high res pictures of women and post it on slashdot without a mirror.

    That should go over well with everybody.

  22. Cached version of page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a cached version of the page. Link

  23. Re:Geography. by DarthStrydre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I do believe Brazil is properly: "República Federativa do Brasil".

    The government website is at http://www.brasil.gov.br/

    'Nuff said.

    Brazil is just a hack on the name that English speakers gave it. Like Germany being Bundesrepublik Deutschland. You do not yell at people for referring to it as Deutschland, so why rant when someone says Brasil?

  24. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Brasil, actually. The Republica Fedarativa do Brasil to be specific. Brazil is just the English-language spelling.

  25. Article is expired by RootsLINUX · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Anyone bother to take a look at the date of the article? November 2004. I thought something was fishy and I was right; I already read this last year. In fact, I might have been linked to the page from slashdot (I can't recall) so this could be a dupe story too.

    To the editors: please check the dates of the articles you submit. It's not "News for Nerds" if it happened over 12 months ago.

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  26. The future by squoozer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can see it now. The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person. Perhaps we will have developed technology to the point where we can make babies in a tank though.

    Funny thing is though, I know several guys that are probably never going to get a partner let alone have children simply because they have set their sights way to high. They want a perfect woman or nothing. In two cases it is perfect looks that they require and in another it's the perfect little obedient house wife (that last guy makes me cringe everytime we talk). I can't help feeling that there are a lot of guys out there that have lost touch with reality due to constantly having "beautiful" women displayed to them.

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    1. Re:The future by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is going very off-topic, but could the low birth rate also be becuase it takes so long to even get "settled" nowadays? Seriously, you have to have at least a bachelors degree(sometimes more depending on your field) to even get your feet planted financially(esp. if you are like me and paid your own way through school) Plus you have to go through a few years of work just barely treading water while paying insane amounts of money in rent(which unlike a sane mortgage, is not an investment but blowing money everywhere) in order to save enough money to even consider having a kid(unless you don't mind poverty and crappy schools).

      Seriously, it's not just the guys, I know a lot of women who are putting off childbirth as long as possible, if not deciding against it altogether. I know devout Catholics who are putting off having children(which for them means putting off getting married and having sex at all) till they are 30 because they just can't afford it. I was kind of shocked the other day when I came to the realization that my mother(who is a college graduate) was as old as I am right now when she had her first child, whereas I am in no way ready for that kind of responsibility/committment.

      Progress!

    2. Re:The future by ihavenonickers · · Score: 0

      Funniest Catholic Comment EVER! I am Catholic and find myself thinking many of the same things. I have 10 years of experince and still find myself wondering if its even possible. My Wife and I barely skim by at times. We make more than the national average...but nope here we are. Very odd

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    3. Re:The future by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

      I don't see there being that low of a birth rate, there are PLENTY of stupid people who just go ahead and drink lots of beer until they look good to each other and then resign themselves to subsistence living and whatever escape drugs/alcohol can offer.

    4. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It has nothing to do with how long it takes to get your feet planted. It has to do with our value system and priorities. Not saying they are better or worse, but the fact is more people are doing just what you say - waiting until they are stable and can "afford" a family. Well, the fact of the matter is you can never "afford" a family. If you wait until that day, you will wait a very long time until one day you realize that if you don't just go for it, you will have missed your chance as time will have passed you by.

      I got married before I turned 21 (I am 30). Just 2 years ago I had finished college and started my career in IT. Now I have 4 kids. During this whole time money has been tight, but I have always had enough to get by. I have been able to "afford" everything I need and some of the things I want. But it's funny to me to hear friends and others say how they couldn't do it and how they have no money or time. Well, I imagine if I had stayed single I would have found other ways to waste my money and time too. It's all about priorities and going for what you want. If you want a family then you change your priorities. If you don't, then you don't; it's not bad it just is what it is. BTW, my wife and I both come from poor backgrounds. I had to serve in the military 4 years and work to get through college. But, here I am, making a good living and raising 4 children after almost 10 years of marriage. So, it has nothing to do with treading water and struggling just to eat so you can't have kids. It has to do with figuring out what you want, sacrifice, and just doing it instead of complaining about not being able to.

    5. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Well in a hundred years from now they will attempt to tell us how
      A scientific means to bliss will supercede the human kiss

      A sub atomic chain will maybe galvanize your brain
      A biochemic trance will eliminate romance

      A future sugar coated pill would give our lovers time to kill
      I think they're working far too much for the redundancy of touch"

      Or so says Mr. Gordon Sumner :)

      In my experience personality should be priority one least you end up in misery.

      And what is "perfect" anyway? Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder.

      I will admit that I was foolish enough to click on the link thinking it was going to be another one of these "IT calendar girl" type articles...as in actual pictures of girls! I quite literally felt sickened upon seeing the linked page.

      A hopeless closet new romantic (or something like that)

      I have this sudden urge to play Moon over Bourbon Street...a most excellent song.

    6. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see it now. The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person.

      If only more people had watched Futurama...

      Narrator: [in movie] Ordinary human dating. It's enjoyable and it serves an important purpose. [He turns the table over and a crying baby appears. He turns it back again.] But when a human dates an artificial mate, there is no purpose. Only enjoyment. And that leads to ... tragedy.

      [The woman behind him turns into a blank robot and the man downloads a celebrity onto it.]

      Billy: [in movie] Neat-o! A Marilyn Monroe-bot!

      Monroe-bot: [in movie] Ooh! You're a real dreamboat, (mechanical voice) Billy Everyteen.

      Narrator: [in movie] Harmless fun? Let's see what happens next.

      [The scene cuts to Billy's bedroom where he kisses the Monroe-bot. His mother walks through the door.]

      Billy's Mom: [in movie] Billy, do you want to walk your dog?

      Billy: [in movie] No thanks, Mom. I'd rather make out with my Monroe-bot.

      [Enter his dad.]

      Billy's Dad: [in movie] Billy, do want to get a paper route and earn some extra cash?

      Billy: [in movie] No thanks, Dad. I'd rather make out with my Monroe-bot.

      [The girl from the cafe, Mavis, walks in.]

      Mavis: [in movie] Billy, do you want to come over tonight? We can make out together.

      Billy: [in movie] Gee, Mavis, your house is across the street. That's an awfully long way to go for making out.

      Narrator: [in movie] Did you notice what went wrong in that scene? Ordinarily, Billy would work hard to make money from his paper route. Then he'd use the money to buy dinner for Mavis, thus earning the slim chance to perform the reproductive act. But in a world where teens can date robots, why should he bother? Why should anyone bother? Let's take a look at Billy's planet a year later. [The scene changes and a foam hand rolls across an empty football field.] Where are all the football stars? [The foam hand drifts across an empty laboratory.] And where are the biochemists? [The scene changes to a split screen of human and robot couples making out on beds.] They're trapped! Trapped in a soft, vice-like grip of robot lips. All civilisation was just an effort to impress the opposite sex ... and sometimes the same sex. Now, let's skip forward 80 years into the future. Where is Billy?

      [The scene changes to a post-apocalyptic world. Billy is an aged man but still with his Monroe-bot and still making out with her.]

      Billy: [in movie] Farewell!

      [He dies.]

      Narrator: [in movie] The next day, Billy's planet was destroyed by aliens. [A fleet of flying saucers destroy buildings with laser shots.]

      Have you guessed the name of Billy's planet? It was Earth. Don't date robots!

    7. Re:The future by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
      The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person.

      Well, human beings suck, so maybe it's just evolution in action.

      They want a perfect woman or nothing.

      Yeah, well that door swings both ways. Read some personal ads by women some day. Thay want the perfect guy who just stepped out of a cheesy romantic comedy who dotes on their every whim and is always around except when he goes to his job- managing (for about 45 minutes a day) the upscale art gallery he owns.

      Fully 98% of personal ads by women include the word "knight" and/or "prince". I just made that statistic up, but you know it's probably correct. Men aren't the only ones looking for their fairy tale mate.

      The one I love are the women who "love to travel" and provide a list of countries identical to the one titled "Where American Tourists Will Be Killed 2 Seconds After Stepping Off Plane". And what's with the dancing? I'm with Maddox on that one- "Dancing makes me envy cripples." I love to get out and do fun stuff, get some exercise, mountain bike, hiking, etc. But the attraction to going to some dark, flickery, eardrum rattling hole populated by a mob of drunks and assholes, and then bouncing around to crappy music... I dun gettit.

    8. Re:The future by slashdotnickname · · Score: 1

      The affordability issue never seems to stop the poor around the world from having large families. It's only the professional middle-class that concerns themselves with it, but I believe that's just an excuse. The real truth is that career-driven people have just that as their priority, their careers, and having a family would impeed on that... of course it sounds much better to say "I can't afford a family right now" than "First I'm getting a sports car!".

    9. Re:The future by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tell your Catholic friends (well the girls at least) that if they are in a position to get married, the ClearBlue Easy fertility monitor is a really great way to monitor their cycle and avoid pregnancy. If they use it 'religiously' in the same way secular girls have to use birth control pills, etc. then they have just as good birth control as any other method. By using the fertility monitor they can have sex 20 days a month... which is pretty good. The hardest part is to schedule the wedding and honeymoon for the 'right' time ;-p

      My wife uses it... I love checking it in the morning before I shower...heheh another good day ;-p

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    10. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Also, I want to clarify what I mean by "value system". Not having a family doesn't mean you don't have values. It just means what you place a different value on having a family, or in other words importance. Some people value family as the most important thing you can do in this life; your reason for being here. This describes my values. However, there are many people who value a career, freedom to spend and live how they wish, and their free time. Not wrong, just different. This is what I mean about value system and I think more people are putting less emphasis on family then there has been in the past. Thus, the reason for why I think affording has nothing to do with it.

    11. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Tell your Catholic friends to embrace contraception and they can have sex every day. And honestly, which is more "natural"? It really is subjective. It seems much more natural to me to have sex when it is desired rather than dictated by a calendar. Using a fertility monitor seems more like exploiting a loophole in church doctrine to me.

    12. Re:The future by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 1

      No definitely, the mere mortal girl in your bed is much better than the model on the roof!

    13. Re:The future by tartanblue · · Score: 1

      So, how exactly are you going to pay for your kids to go to college? Or do you want to put them at the same disadvantage that you were at? And are you going to have worked enough to have money set aside for retirement, or are you going to rely on your children to care for you?

      It's not just a question about whether you and your wife can deal with squeezing by, your kids will have to deal with it too.

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    14. Re:The future by tartanblue · · Score: 1

      Q: What do you call a couple who uses NFP (Natural Family Planning)?
      A: Parents!

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    15. Re:The future by phaggood · · Score: 1

      The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR t

      Would that be a bad thing - not complete extinction but drastic population reduction? According to a recent episode of Nye's new show (no link; select the 'Population' show of this flash-site), this planet can comfortably hold about 42B humans if we all eat like cows, or about 2B Americans. If VR can move us from our current 6.xB to the 2B mark in a, ah, "pleasant" manner, Gia'd prob'ly appreciate it very much.

    16. Re:The future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old joke...and ignorant. My wife and I used NFP to delay children for about a year before our first and second children. When we decided the time was right for her to get pregnant, NFP even helped us score on the very first cycle.

      The method does require discipline though, in a way that other methods do not.

    17. Re:The future by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1
      But it really doesn't take all that long to get settled; it's that we think it does. I make a good sum of money, but don't think I could possibly support a wife and children--but this is nonsense, as I make more money than the vast majority of the population. I'm used to going out to eat a few times a week, to spending great sums of money on myself and so forth. In short, I'm selfish. But I'm working to fix that:-)

      Like you, I feel in no way ready for the responsibility and commitment of having children--but really, I am no less ready than anyone else who's had kids. Having kids makes one ready, kind of liking driving a car makes one able to drive a car (they keep raising the age to drive, with no noticeable effects). The real thing is to just bite the bullet and settle down. Much easier said than done, though.

    18. Re:The future by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      >The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner

      DON'T DATE ROBOTS! -His Highness the Space Pope

    19. Re:The future by casechopper · · Score: 1

      Why exactly does he need to pay for his kids to go to college. In my experience the kids who pay there own way are the ones who really value their education and put in the effort to learn what they are paying to learn. I've known lots of people in my school who really didn't belong there, didn't want to be there and were not interested in anything more than partying who were given a free ride through school by their parents.
      If you want your kids in college teach them to work and learn so that they can pay and get scholarships to finish school through their own work.

      I payed my own way and I really wanted my moneys worth, not just a piece of paper.

      Sam

    20. Re:The future by lonesome+phreak · · Score: 1

      But the attraction to going to some dark, flickery, eardrum rattling hole populated by a mob of drunks and assholes, and then bouncing around to crappy music..

      Then your just going to the wrong clubs...find a club that plays good dance music (like some EBM, synthpop, etc) and you'll find a whole different crowd of people. Avoid the meat markets, and you might have some fun there.

      I do agree about the "knight" crap...I have an ex who complains about every bf since me about how none of them "match up" to what she wants. She considers herself a "princess" (a major reason for our breakup), but keeps dating these hot-on-the-outside-weirdo-on-the-inside guys because her main criteria are looks and money.

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      Maybe we DID take the blue pill. You wouldn't remember anyway.
    21. Re:The future by cr0sh · · Score: 1
      Perhaps we will have developed technology to the point where we can make babies in a tank though.

      Actually, we are closer to this than you may think. I have (at home, unfortunately, so I can't provide a cite or reference right now) an issue of Life magazine from not too many years ago (meaning, I don't know how research has progressed since then) which had a photo of a baby goat (IIRC) in an artificial "womb" which was developed by a researcher in Japan.

      Without having the magazine in front of me, I can't give much more information. The best I can do (with the power of google) is this link, which states:

      In 2002, a team at Cornell University used cells from a human uterus to grow an artificial womb. When a fertilized human egg was introduced, it implanted itself in the uterus wall as in a natural pregnancy. After six days of gestation, the experiment was halted due solely to legal constraints.

      Meanwhile, half-a-world away, Dr. Yoshinori Kuwabara of Juntendo University in Japan has been removing fetuses from goats and keeping them alive for weeks in clear plastic tanks of amniotic fluid with machine-driven 'umbilical cords'.

      I included the first part just to let you know how far we have come, and the second part is likely the researcher I am thinking of in Japan, and from which the image in Life magazine came from, most likely (the description above is accurate for the picture that was shown - I remember the image looking like a largish clear-acrylic tank, like a fish tank, filled with a thick fluid in which the unborn goat was immersed with a number of tubes sticking out of it).

      Now - notice the name of the HTML page in that link I supplied. If you do some googling on "artificial wombs", you are going to stumble across an interesting topic, something that it seems has a lot of people up in arms (or at least wondering about it all), but hasn't yet hit the public as to the implications. As with anything of this nature, it has to do with the abortion debate. I am not wanting to start a flamewar, but the idea of a working artificial womb (for humans) brings up a number of interesting possibilities...

      First off, if you have such a device, the life and health of prematurely born babies could possibly be made a lot better with such a device, vs the mechanical incubators and other methods we currently have. What possibilities an artificial womb could open up for such uses are anybody's guess.

      But think about this: if an artificial womb can keep a baby which was "born" premature alive, what implications does this have on the abortion debate/issue? If instead of aborting a fetus and terminating its life, it could be put into an artificial womb, instead...

      Or, if instead of procreating the "normal" way, one used "harvested" eggs and sperm to create an in-vitro embryo (or blastocyst) and "implanted" that into the artificial womb to be brought to term in that manner...

      What implications does this have on society? What about the state (what if the state/society allowed "abortions" in which the fetus was transferred to these devices to come to term - would the state become the "parent", if the mother or parents didn't want it)?

      The questions are numerous, and these are only the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, just like every other "big question" that we should ALL be paying attention to RIGHT NOW, working together to solve the moral, legal, and ethical dillemas, we are instead ignoring it. Right now, the debate seems to be going on in "fringe groups", most likely with religious connotations. This may "explode" on us in the very near future. It would be nice if we were all prepared ahead, but unfortunately history has shown we never want to think that far in the future, especially on subjects such as this...

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    22. Re:The future by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I can see it now. The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person.

      You saw that Futurama episode with Lucy Liu also?

    23. Re:The future by Kelson · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a short story by (IIRC) Arthur C. Clarke, written back in the 1950s or 1960s. Someone had come up with a machine that would record and play back experiences directly into the brain. They started out with things like having a gourmet savor an exquisite meal, but of course someone decided it would be great to record a pair of *ahem* "highly skilled" people having sex. The inventor kept playing back the same recording, neglecting his wife/girlfriend (because she couldn't measure up to the professional), who eventually decided to see what the fuss was and picked up the other side of the recording, and they just wasted away.

    24. Re:The future by jred · · Score: 1

      Play the lottery every week?
      Seriously, in TN the lotteries give enough money to education that anyone with the grades can get a scholarship.

      My daughter knows this, and she knows she has to keep her grades up.

      As a last resort, and she doesn't know this, but her great-great-gramma left her a trust fund when she died that is specifically for college. I haven't told her because I want her to keep her grades up. None of that "I don't need a scholarship so I can coast through school".

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      jred
      I'm not a mechanic but I play one in my garage...
    25. Re:The future by squoozer · · Score: 1

      It's so much easier to just bury our collective heads in the sand than be proactive it's small wonder things always blow up in our faces. The problem, or at least one of them, is that no one really scores any points for stopping a problem before it happens. The public, for the most part, are unable or unwilling to see that this will be a (morla) problem in the future. As such our law makers would win no lime light for passing laws and creating guidelines now. In the future, however, when it is a problem and the great uneducated masses are whipped up into a frenzy our law makers can score a ton of points by passing the same (or more draconian) legislation.

      Still, I'm pretty amazed at how far we have come. I wouldn't be surpirsed if there are still some very difficult technical problems to solve however.

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    26. Re:The future by sa666_666 · · Score: 1

      The affordability issue never seems to stop the poor around the world from having large families. It's only the professional middle-class that concerns themselves with it, but I believe that's just an excuse.

      Maybe it's because the professional middle-class person is able to rationally consider the consequences of their actions, and realize that maybe they really can't afford having a family. Anybody can throw caution to the wind, ignore their current circumstances, and start popping out babies. That doesn't take skill. What really takes skill is evaluating whether you can 'do right' by a family, and that means whether you can actually afford it.

    27. Re:The future by sa666_666 · · Score: 1

      I'm used to going out to eat a few times a week, to spending great sums of money on myself and so forth. In short, I'm selfish. But I'm working to fix that:-)

      Every second message I'm reading is from people that are considered 'selfish' because they want to do things on their own terms with their own money. Granted, the term 'selfish' means have priorities for oneself, but the connotation is usually negative. I don't see why doing what you want with your own money should have negative connotations. It's just that most people are brainwashed into believing that having children - good, not having children - bad/you're going to hell.

    28. Re:The future by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      Actually it's that the professional middle class man wants/has access to professional middle class women. Society being what it is, most people expect a women to increase her standard of living in a marriage/long term relationship. To accomplish this requires a much bigger hurdle for the young men. That and higher divorce rates by 30-40 year olds means more competition for 20-30 year old women, than a generation ago.
      The number one factor in number of offspring a woman will have over her lifetime is her level of education (and they are inversly correllated. The leveling of the corporate world has resulted in women becoming far more selective in their mates.
      The guy typically doesn't do the mental calculus of doing right by a family, at a certain level he gets picked by a woman who expects him to do right by the family.

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    29. Re:The future by Lando · · Score: 1

      It now takes two incomes to support a family. So mom and dad both have to work which means little toby has to go to daycare which costs almost 25% of the family takehome pay. So unless one member of the family has a job earning far more than the national average, ie 30k x2 incomes = 60k+ it's almost impossible live decently and what parent wants their children to suffer because the family is functionally broke?
            Some people do get married and have children younger, but they generally have a support system of friends and family. However, most of the people that have their children at a young age are more likely to have done it because of irresponsible behavior rather than careful planning.

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  27. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was using the local short form: Brasil!

  28. Re:Geography. by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, amazing....you seem to enjoy bashing American's ignorance while exposing your own:read the first sentence here, it tells you the official name of Bra(s/z)il in Portugese is...........drumroll please.....
    República Federativa do Brasil!
    And guess what, I'm an American! I've also had tech jobs on 3 continents before my 25th birthday! Go back and learn something about the world, then we can talk

  29. I hope by Council · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like the site is slashdotted pretty badly.

    . . . I hope the gals are okay!

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    1. Re:I hope by madaxe42 · · Score: 1

      They've gone down!

  30. Wrong by benhocking · · Score: 1

    That's how Brasilians spell it. ;)

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  31. There's nothing sexier... by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Than a chick with a high poly count.

    1. Re:There's nothing sexier... by game+kid · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for the day when people say, "Poly Count? Sheeeit. My icon of hotness uses smooth 3D Bezier curves and surfaces."

      (...preferably not just wireframes like the above-linked Flash toy, of course.)

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    2. Re:There's nothing sexier... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Someone I used to work with wanted to skip that iteration and go for entirely procedural 3d objects. Currently not possible until someone actually works out a decent way to represent them, but would be nice if it could be done.

  32. If this were fark.... by donscarletti · · Score: 3, Informative

    The appropriate phrase would be: "I'd hit it"

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    1. Re:If this were fark.... by rizole · · Score: 1

      If only they were produced by M$....you've gotta love a girl who goes down on you all the time.

    2. Re:If this were fark.... by magefile · · Score: 1

      No, if this were Fark, that'd still be inappropriate - and that's why you'd say it.

    3. Re:If this were fark.... by spurtle15 · · Score: 1

      The appropriate phrase would be: "I'd hit it"

      With my Narwhal(e).

    4. Re:If this were fark.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because catchphrases are HIGH-LARIOUS. That's why.

    5. Re:If this were fark.... by Shipwack · · Score: 1

      If this were Fark, there'd already be several posts claiming that they weren't all that hot, with at least one complaining about "pointy knees"...

      Think of the kittens!

  33. Obviously... by AviLazar · · Score: 1

    ....with a thread starter message like "geisha" - that sight had to be bound for a /. notch

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  34. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by Slur · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...
    5) Profit!

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  35. Since these women are digital.... by 8127972 · · Score: 5, Funny

    .... Do they come with some sort of EULA?

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    1. Re:Since these women are digital.... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, but you'll violate the DMCA if you penetrate their DRM. Although I'm sure someone has already figured out a way to back-end it.

      These models give added weight to the Australian meaning of the term 'rootkit.'

      Don't forget to tip your waitress. I'll be here all week.

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    2. Re:Since these women are digital.... by bk4u · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even real women come with an EULA, it's called a relationship. Just like EULA's you never understand all the terms but you check the box saying you accept them because you want to use the product.

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  36. Yes, but. by headkase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're speaking English.

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    Shh.
    1. Re:Yes, but. by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And as a fellow arogant English speaker, I must say I don't like your spelling of headkase. I've decided your name should be spelled HeadCase. How you think your own name should be spelled is irrelevant! I've decided you are now HeadCase.

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    2. Re:Yes, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you? I doubt it if you're an American.

      Signed: an Englishman.

    3. Re:Yes, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you american? Just because "we're speaking English", doesn't mean you can bastardize foriegn words, and lose the original pronounciation of a name.

  37. My experience by spungo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I tried getting kinky with a digital girl once - but she core-dumped on me.

    1. Re:My experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She let you keep it though!?

    2. Re:My experience by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

      I guess you were rooting for her box?

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    3. Re:My experience by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 4, Funny

      Awesome! That usually costs extra.

  38. It's 2005 winners from four days ago. by technoextreme · · Score: 3, Informative
    Argggggg.....
    To the editors: please check the dates of the articles you submit. It's not "News for Nerds" if it happened over 12 months ago.
    It happened four days ago. I have no clue as to why they included that link from last year but yeah it's 2005 winners.
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  39. I must be missing the cybergene by Quirk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I got to check them all out before it was /.ed.

    I like chicks alot. Been married, lived with a few others, like long term relationships. The thing is I don't get the uber smooth, cyber skinned, tricked out, fantasy girls, or, the equally poreless, celluloid supermodels. The first time I seriously came undone in the face of transcendent physical beauty was the first time I saw my first real girlfriend fresh out of the shower sans makeup.

    I guess I'm just a regular guy that likes real regular chicks with attractive little flaws.

    I'll take the time I've here and now cause obviously I'm not suited to the tailored, gene spliced and diced perfect world to come.

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    1. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by dsci · · Score: 1

      I agree; I went to see Final Fantasy when it first came out (not for the story, which I thought was dumb, but to see the CGI). I left thinking the models were "too perfect" in the sense that faces were too symmetric.

      The hard part to getting true photorealism is modeling real-world imperfections in an "attractive" way.

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    2. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Its called the uncanny valley I believe. Meaning as things look more and more realistic it starts to turn one off untill complete realism is found.

    3. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by biraneto2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you look at the girls in the article... that are the 2004 contestants... you'll see the winner (Kaya) won exactly because she was draw with human imperfections (her skin don't look so smooth neither poreless)

    4. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree 100%. I also first came to appreciate real beauty when I first saw your girlfriend fresh out of the shower sans makeup.

    5. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by nCnt++ · · Score: 1
      I agree. And from reading your comments I would guess you and I have similar values.

      Sure the super models are cute but they really don't compare to the handful of Bettys that I work with.

      I call it "Jonesing locally, not globally."

      So maybe it's not that they are too perfect, it's that they are too remote.

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    6. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by dsci · · Score: 1

      I'll also mention that I have seen this in action with my young daughter. She has always been disturbed by objects/images that are "almost" human, but not quite. For example, we once saw some angel figurines in a store that had no faces painted on them (the face was there, but no eyes, nose or mouth). She completely freaked out; she was about 1-1/2 at the time. Other images, like sharks and dinosaurs did not frighten her at all.

      Thanks for the term; I've known about the phenomenon for a while, but now I have a term for it.

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    7. Re:I must be missing the cybergene by midnightblaze · · Score: 1

      I'm also a regular guy who loves girls with attractive little flaws. It can be that rendering women with such flaws: pores, greasy skin, and all that, is still too hard to do convincingly. It was only recently when it was announced that some people got skin's natural translucency down in a good way. Sometimes I flip through channels, come across some country music video, and wince at the heavily made-up, airbrushed, whatever singer on the TV. Who'd probably look much hotter without the goddamn paint. Olive Garden waitresses are also guilty.

  40. this thread... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First thing that crossed my mind when I read this...

    "This thread is useless without pics"

  41. The Final Frontier? by Mille+Mots · · Score: 1, Funny
    from Italy, Germany, Spain, Pakistan, Iran, Usa, Chile, India, Australia, Brasil and Mexico."

    I googled for it, but I can't seem to locate this heretofore unknown country 'Usa.' Any /.'ers know anything about it? Good place to escape to from the United States?

    1. Re:The Final Frontier? by RapidEye · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:The Final Frontier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this country, "United States" that you speak of? I can't find it on any map either.

    3. Re:The Final Frontier? by yotto · · Score: 1

      *Usa*

      Isn't that where Jar Jar Binks lives?

    4. Re:The Final Frontier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand there was a village in Japan that used to print "Made in Usa" on all their products, but somebody stopped them.

  42. Let's hope she's not a tranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as she's not a transsexual, she's got my vote.

  43. I for one welcome our new by chunews · · Score: 4, Funny

    {splurt} oh, crap.

    1. Re:I for one welcome our new by FurryFeet · · Score: 1


      What do you mean "crap"? Either I'm missing out on the joke, or you're waaaay kinkier than I care to imagine...

  44. Yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are many precedents for the English language evolving to correct historical misspellings of place name. Peking / Beijing and Canton / Guangdong, for example. Brasil is the correct spelling, whether you like it or not.

    1. Re:Yes, but... by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      There are many precedents for the English language evolving to correct historical misspellings of place name. Peking / Beijing and Canton / Guangdong, for example. Brasil is the correct spelling, whether you like it or not.
      Partially correct, actually "Peking" comes from an older pronounciation of the word in Chinese. Other non-western cultures use the word too. In Japanese, a language from a country that had contact with China long before Europe ever did, the word is "pekin"(romanized of course)
      Honestly, if any language can come close to getting a place name correct, I'm impressed.

  45. Coral mirrors of the 15 girls by Inda · · Score: 4, Informative
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    1. Re:Coral mirrors of the 15 girls by Bertie · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm all alone here, but I don't think I've ever clicked on a Coral cache link that worked. It times out every single time, no matter what the content is.

  46. Getting Around by EBFoxbat · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There's no faster way to get around than to be /.ed

  47. terrible by cbreeze34 · · Score: 4, Funny

    girls look so fake nowadays!

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  48. Also Japan is worth a shot. by technoextreme · · Score: 1
    Hm... I've just done an extensive search and all I found was a "Penis casting kit". An interesting idea in itself, but requires the replicated object to already exist in 3D :-)
    Ooo trust me on this one. Porn industry and in addition to that Japan. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/06 10_050610_robot.html
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  49. Re:Sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's worse is that this is about a year old. News to anyone, for nerds or not, this ain't.

  50. Are there Any Better Pictures Than the ones in the by putko · · Score: 1

    Are there any better pictures than the ones in the article?
    This one is looking spooky, like she just got a facelift, or saw a ghost.
    She's got that Real Doll look.

    This one has a cheap looking hair-weave. She's also looking a bit angry.

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  51. Network Mirror is faster! by antdude · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go!

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  52. There is something vaguely revolting about them. by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    They look weird.

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  53. Re:Sad. by orasio · · Score: 1

    I don't think it's pathetic.
    It's important from a technological perspective, of course. Not everybody is a kernel hacker, some of us have interests in CG and other areas.
    It's important from a social perspective, too (where will RL models find jobs now?!!?!?!?, will they work as my secretaries? what about virtual actors? virtual environments populated by virtual people indistiguishable from other people?)

  54. Miss Fuckpuppet 2004^H5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article is from 2004, but that doesn't take away that there _is_ a 2005 Digital Fuckpuppet contest.
    Pretty disgusting, apart from the paint-on clothing and _digital_ silicon breast implants the traditional role models are the thing that sets me on edge most. If I'd be polite I'd suggest the artists check out actual clothing, but that would probably mean checking out actual girls, so never no mind. Without the bodies, the women look pretty nifty, possibly even less standard than in a real Miss contest - except for the plucked/shaved eyebrows people must think women are born with nowadays. In short: I don't want to diss the creators, but please get your Pygmalion outta the business.

  55. Re:Sad. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

    In the context presented, it most certainly is pathetic.

    Maybe if it was more about function than form, but the focus is COMPLETELY on form here. That is what is sad.

    Answer me this: Why the hell must it have tits for it to be a suitable virtual assistant? Really. What the fuck is with that.

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  56. Alienation City by JumpingBull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't quite how to say this, but in a world of retouched, airbrushed, p0rn enhanced body mods, this seems a natural progression.

    I think I shall change careers to be an undertaker. drug-lord or psychologist; I see an increase in suicide and despair as people try to conform to an unrealistic/unobtainable model of perfection.

    All three should continue to be major growth industies, and are lucrative investments for the future

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    1. Re:Alienation City by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
      I think I shall change careers to be an undertaker. drug-lord or psychologist

      Become a psychologist, and refer all your patients (or next of kin) to your undertaking side business. Oh, and sell them drugs.

  57. Cocaine by unixguy48 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And you never have to worry about her snorting coke to stay slim!

  58. Re:Sad. by GeckoX · · Score: 1

    Troll? Ok, sure.

    But I was serious, and it obviously hit a nerve, didn't it?

    How's about we talk about it instead of shouting 'troll' and ignoring it?

    Funny how if you disagree with the general stance, instead of discussing you rather get censored.

    IMHO, If I could, I'd have censored the article itself.

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  59. MOD PARENT PAST FIVE by LeonGeeste · · Score: 0

    You've hit the nail right on the head. What I want to do is offer an explanation why this happens. In most cases, the bachelors has nothing to do with the job you turn out to perform. Even in technical fields, you only use a tiny fraction of your college knowledge. So why do they require it? Signaling. It's hard for them to tell if you're going to be diligent, intelligent, and/or play by the rules. A degree provides some assurance that you're a weighted combination of these.

    So why not just hire everyone and sack the ones that suck? Well,

    1) It's expensive to retrain.
    2) It may be hard to fire without a "good reason" to avoid being sued.
    3) They can't do "probationary" periods.
    and most importantly:
    4) The market is already saturated with college graduates, so they might as well cull the field.

    4) is due to heavy subsidies for education, which I believe are ultimately counterproductive. Yes, they make it easier for any one person to get an (unnecessary) education, but they also make it so that everyone has to get more education to prove the same thing to potential employers. In their absence, you would see a shift back to on-the-job training and tighter labor markets which keep up wages and make threats of firing all the less threatening.

    It used to be that high school educations were so rigorous and had such high standards that they had the same signaling effect that college does now. Then people could make a decent living at 18. So, poor high schools are part of the problem too, and I guess I'll let you guys fight over what the cause of that is. (Creationism in biology class can only explain a tiny portion of the problem, in case you were about to say something like that.)

    My recommendation is to remove subsidies for higher education, make it easier to hire *and fire* people, and introduce competition to public high schools. But that's not going to happen any time soon.

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    1. Re:MOD PARENT PAST FIVE by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Informative

      What I want to do is offer an explanation why this happens. In most cases, the bachelors has nothing to do with the job you turn out to perform. Even in technical fields, you only use a tiny fraction of your college knowledge. So why do they require it?
      Fundamental mis-use of statistics really. COORELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION! People see that on average college graduates earn some big amount more in their lifetime than non-college grads. So what do they think? If everyone goes to college, then everyone will make more money!
      BZZZZT! Try again! The reason college grads make more money isn't simply the piece of sheep skin. More than likely they are smarter/harder workers, and have a real passion for their work(the later is probably much more important than the former). Therefore they are driven to succeed. Forcing someone who doesn't want to go to college into college does not somehow magically bestow those traits upon them, and costs the individual and society at large a lot of money that could have been invested elsewhere. Furthermore, it might stop them from doing something amazing with their life(such as start their own business etc) instead of sitting in a class where they are bored. I think the "feel gooders" who think that everyone is entitled to a degree so they can feel great about themselves really need to come back to reality. Not everyone needs a college education, not everyone wants one, not having one does not condemn you to failure.

    2. Re:MOD PARENT PAST FIVE by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1
      More than likely they are smarter/harder workers, and have a real passion for their work(the later is probably much more important than the former).

      Depending on how far they go in college, they also get exposed to a lot of interesting research ideas & access to equipment that they might not have had available if they didn't go to college.

      College isn't necessarily just a sheepskin-producer and/or meat-market. It is actually possible to learn a few useful things in college (at least if you're paying attention & not wasted all the time).

    3. Re:MOD PARENT PAST FIVE by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      That is actually my point, people who WANT to go to college(like myself) should go to college purely for the learning experience. However, there are a lot of people who feel that they are forced to go to college, who don't want to, who don't really get anything out of the experience. These are the people that shouldn't be going, but of course, they actually support the rest of us(provided they don't get aid, but...)

  60. Re:Geography. by chris+macura · · Score: 1

    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ br.html#Govt

    read before you link, lest you look like an idiot:

              conventional long form: Federative Republic of Brazil
              conventional short form: Brazil
              local long form: Republica Federativa do Brasil
              local short form: Brasil

  61. you forgot something by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    lots of dollar signs right after the backslash.

    1. Re:you forgot something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the data glove don't fit then acquit!

  62. Re:Sad. by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    We're geeks. We're sad and pethetic and we like technology. What's your point?

  63. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  64. Re:Sad. by Ralconte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Kaya was proportedly created to be a virtual newscaster, or some such. She was designed to have big teeth, pudgy nose, blemished skin -- all traits humans find unattractive, so as to appear non-threatening. In some ways she is the antithesis of this contest, and your complaint. Just a little FYI. They don't HAVE to be virtual sex toys, they could be giving you updated information at a mall kisok, for example.

  65. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by Markus_UW · · Score: 1

    6) If your server is a Dell, turn of furnace and save on heating bills, even if you're in the Canadian North.

  66. Priorities by 0311 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I finished school in 2000 (while working full time) we already had two children. And a house. No, I didn't make mega-bucks (still don't and we have 4 children and a much nicer home) but we were very careful with our money and still are. I don't have gadgets (unless you count the XBox, which doubles as our DVD player), my computer is older than my first born (and cobbled together with parts I bought from a wholesaler) and I drive an old car with a lot of miles on it. I bring my lunch from home and we don't eat out much, maybe once every 8 weeks. We rent movies instead of going to the movie theatre. I don't have a lot of spending money, about $15 every two weeks. And yet, I wouldn't trade any amount of money or so-called social freedom for my family. Oh, and by the way, no one I have ever met or heard of was ready for children before they came. They kind of grow on you and you cannot get that kind of practice any other way. Some responsibilities cannot be prepared for until after the weight of them has already settled onto your shoulders and having children is one of those responsibilities.

    Poverty is not a poor financial statement. It is a state of mind. I remember an old Appalachian woman being asked what she would do if she got some money. This was in the last few years that she was interviewed. She lived in a one room shack without indoor plumbing, out in the sticks. She said, "Well, I suppose I would give it to the poor." If you must have loads of spending money and lots of cool stuff in order for you to think of yourself as not poverty stricken, well, you don't really want children, do you? It's about your priorities.

    Well, I do carry on, don't I? Point is, if you want to take on the responsibilities of children, don't wait until you are ready, because you never will be until you have them in your life.

    1. Re:Priorities by mudbogger · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't have a lot of spending money, about $15 every two weeks. And yet, I wouldn't trade any amount of money or so-called social freedom for my family.

      Hate to say it but this is probably the opinion you would expect from someone who had children before they were ready. The point is, it is not a question of trading your actual family it is just a question of waiting a little longer until you start the family so you can be more comfortable and buy your lunch every now and then. That said you deserve credit for your resolve and optimism.

    2. Re:Priorities by Inoshiro · · Score: 0

      "I don't have a lot of spending money, about $15 every two weeks. And yet, I wouldn't trade any amount of money or so-called social freedom for my family."

      How are your children going to get an education ($$ anywhere), or what happens if you have a medical emergency (assuming you live in the US)?

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    3. Re:Priorities by 0311 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the kind reply, unusual on /. Actually, our new budget reflects the fact that I am applying to medical school for the Fall 2006 freshman class and we have extra expenses associated with that grand cause, like tuition for some pre-med classes I have to take, MCAT test fees and med school application fees. Before I started down this current path I had something like $140/month of 'spending money.' Those were the days!

      That said, I am completely captivated by my new direction and have been very happy to work toward it. I am 35 now, so there are significant challenges and adjustments ahead in order to make this career switch. I believe that much of the ability I have to make this successful (and desirable) has come in large part from my experiences of being a father and from my experiences of working hard to finish school and support my family at the same time.

    4. Re:Priorities by DarkSarin · · Score: 1, Interesting

      To support you,

      Good for you!

      I am in a similar position. I am currently in graduate school with three children. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

      All of my children were born as a result of planning and much thought and discussion with the wife. We were married for two years before we had our first child. The reason I mention all this is the guy who says "its the people who had children before they were ready who say that no one is ever ready."

      This is a stupid attitude. If you don't have children, you have perhaps a 1 in 1e100 chance of fully being ready for them. There are so many unexpected _things_ that happen when you have children that prior preparation cannot see.

      Are there folks who are substantially ready for children? Absolutely. Some folks are perfectly set financially for children, while a few are emotionally ready, but neither of those are enough.

      My wife and I are far from financially well-off, and money is not easily come by, but by working 20 hours a week part-time in addition to my graduate teaching assistantship, we are able to make ends meet. We have never had an issue with having food on the table, and we make our rent.

      Will I be getting an xbox 360? No, but that's okay.

      The decision of when to have children, and how many one should have, is a deeply personal question that everyone needs to decide with their spouse. It should NEVER be left to chance, and it should ALWAYS be done only after thorough consideration.

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    5. Re:Priorities by devinjones · · Score: 1

      Having children pulls you into the future, ready or not.

    6. Re:Priorities by Gadgetfreak · · Score: 1

      Funny... my parents actually said the same line to me. "If you wait 'til you're ready, you'll be waiting forever." I'm 25, have a bachelors, a job, and am a homeowner as of a few months ago. And despite a hefty mortgage and student loans that will bleed me for years, I'm evidently better off than most. I have a steady girlfriend, too, but I'm not quite ready to make the next step just yet.
          My father and mother were 22 and 19 years old, respectively, when they got married. Most of my friends who are my age now were born to parents who were mid-20s at the time. It was just expected.

      I have 2 college friends with children. One of them had her daughter after an unintentional pregnancy. She married the father, and are just barely scraping by. The other friend got married straight out of college, after getting a job. He's on his second house, and has a new daughter. Neither of them are well off... but the point is that whether or not they were ready for it, they were both determined to stay afloat. There's plenty of "what happens if..." scenarios, but the mindset to take care of yourself and your family is really key. There are too many people who claim they're a victim of circumstance, and justify not doing anything about it.

      To bring it back around... if you're on your computer all day staring at digital renderings of the ideal woman, whose fault is it if you don't get laid or procreate? You can blame the provider of said renderings, computer culture, your parents for your looks, or society in general. But you've got nobody to blame but yourself.

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    7. Re:Priorities by Vaystrem · · Score: 1

      I believe he is referring to his personal spending money not his monetary income.

    8. Re:Priorities by Eccles · · Score: 1

      As an aside, you might check your local library for DVDs. Mine has several hundred different ones. Also, check out peeflix (see my sig); it's essentially a movie swapping service. I've traded about a dozen movies so far with no problems. Cost per trade? $1 to Peerflix plus one first class stamp. And no late fees. Get started with used DVDs from Amazon and the like. You don't typically get movies fast, but you can hardly beat the price. I prefer it to the library simply because I never have to run out and return the movies.

      I have no connection with Peerflix except as a satisfied customer.

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    9. Re:Priorities by gg3po · · Score: 2, Funny
      We rent movies instead of going to the movie theatre

      BZZT. Caught ya. Every *true* cheapskate knows you don't rent when you can *borrow* from the public library! :-)

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    10. Re:Priorities by Lando · · Score: 1

      The unfortunate part of this though is your $15 a month represents what you have now, having had a higher income in the past to buy all your basics. For others that only have $15-20 a month to spare, investing 20 weeks of spending income into buying an xbox and buying at most 1 used game a month is a pretty lavish expense. I definately have more than $20 a month extra to spend, but that money disappears very quickly. The rise in gas prices over the last year or two would have destroyed that $15 a month.

            Frankly, I'm more financially well off now making far less than I used to because I don't have to pay large rental fee's and am even allowed to deduct my interest payments on my house from my taxes. I have a computer system. I know that they are far cheaper than they used to by, but $600 at $30 a month is all your spending cash for over a year and a half. Include in that the fact that I have the education to make money without having to work 2 fulltime jobs and 1 parttime job. If I hadn't had the income in the past, or more specifically if my wife and I had not combined incomes and had superior educations, we would need more than we make now in order to survive. I'm also going to school, so I'm in a similiar boat to you. But realize that without resources financial and other types, it is much more expensive to live.

      PS, I get to see 1 movie a year if I'm lucky, for the past several years that has been Harry Potter. Any movies that are purchased are purchased for my daughter her education and stimulation is more important than our "entertainment". However, as a geek the internet, which is required for my wife's work, provides quite a bit of entertainment. I just purchased my first laptop with student loans because I am away from my home system while at school, but still need to moonlight to pay bills. Currently, I feel that while I may not have spending money, I'm not about to collapse because of 1 unexpected bill. In the past there have been times that I have had to live on the streets and get my dinner from out of the trash.

      Blah blah blah sorry to go on, I seem to be doing that a lot today. Anyway, just wanted to point out that you and I have a lot more than a lot of people and while I do have more than $15 spending money a month that is merely money that doesn't have to go to necessities and is quickly used for things that break, getting some liquid plumber to clean out a pipe so that I can stop running a clothes hanger down it to get the bathtub to empty, etc.

      PS 36 now, daughter is nearly 4. Since she will be in kindergarden soon and daycare expenses will go down, we are starting to work on her next. I haven't checked into it recently, but I seem to remember that the chance of complications starts to rise once the woman reaches the age of 35 which means we have time for 1 more child and possibly a second while my wife is still in her 30's. I'll be in school for several more years so we are dependent on her income.

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    11. Re:Priorities by Lando · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip, looks good. I'll have to find a way around their plugin requirements it seems. Not working in basic firefox sans plugins

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  67. Acedemic Curiousity Impels Me To Ask by ThePuceGuardian · · Score: 1

    ... can we see the other finalists as well, please? Strictly as a matter of ... technical interest, of course.

  68. lips by overmycrossbody · · Score: 1

    Someone forgot to render the chap stick on Kaya's lips. Those things are nice but on the verge of cracking open.

  69. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by Bob3141592 · · Score: 4, Funny

    [My english is better than most other people's german, so please point out mistakes politely. Thank you.]

    I thought you might want to know that both English and German should be capitalized. You're very welcome.

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  70. we all know who is gonna win by JohnLeFucker · · Score: 0
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  71. Too much time on your hands . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    leads to the creation of digital women. Really folks, this is pathetic.

  72. Mmmm... corpses. by cluening · · Score: 2, Informative

    Each of these digital "people" suffers from the same problem most movies full of digital actors suffer from: they look like animated dead people. We humans are pretty good at accepting cartoon characters as "real" when they don't look like humans, but once they start looking too real we start looking for those details indescribable that show they are alive. When they don't move/look 100% natural, they tend to just register in our minds as dead bodies moved by puppet strings...

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    1. Re:Mmmm... corpses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm, just thinking about parts of that final fantasy movie, and now that you mention it, I think your right.

    2. Re:Mmmm... corpses. by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2, Informative

      The technical term for this is 'uncanny valley.'

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  73. As an Artist by miyako · · Score: 2, Informative

    I do a fair bit of CGI profesionally, and I have to say a lot of these images and the work people have done in general on rendering humans is really amazing. There is also a lot more to creating a convincing looking human than to creating a photorealistic city, car, office building, etc.
    I've seen better images than what were in the wired article (the other site was slashdotted unfortunately), but they were still highly impressive.
    A lot of the problem is that skin is one of the most difficult materials to accurately render. Aside from minor imperfections and blemishes that lend realism to an image, it's difficult to manage proper material attributes that look "real". Such as multiple layers, subsurface refraction, bump mapping, reflectivity, etc.
    If I weren't afraid of slashdotting my own server I would post some of my own renders, but I am, so I won't.
    Anyone got a cached link of the main site? I'd like to have a look at some of the other entries.

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    1. Re:As an Artist by HTL2001 · · Score: 1

      http://www.coralcdn.org/

      put your site into the box there and then post the link

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  74. Re:There is something vaguely revolting about them by Sigg3.net · · Score: 0

    They look weird.
    The technical term is "digital".

    After the initial awe has dropped, and we've saved a local copy the contestants, someone will ask: Who made these girls in the first place? And WHY?

  75. Shades of... by thecpuguru · · Score: 1

    Looker http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/ Michael did not have today's FX, but the theme is familiar.

  76. Here's what's really creepy: by kalirion · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA:

    Kaya is ravishing. She has full lips, long lashes, and a slightly upturned nose. Her expression radiates confidence and power, and her smooth skin is well scrubbed and dotted with freckles. But she doesn't have much of a body. At all.
    ...
    Kaya
    HEIGHT: 5'5"
    WEIGHT: 121 pounds


    So what we have here folks is a 5'5" tall, 121 lb head.

    1. Re:Here's what's really creepy: by seramar · · Score: 1

      Well then at least I won't have to worry about any scsi drives in her box.

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  77. Re:Geography. by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

    It's Brazil not Brasil.

    Yeesh, some people think God invented war to teach Americans geography. I don't know why.

    According to YOUR OWN SOURCE , it is both. Follow the link, and search for the string "Brasil" within the page. You will find yourself staring at the following text:

    conventional long form: Federative Republic of Brazil
    conventional short form: Brazil
    local long form: Republica Federativa do Brasil
    local short form: Brasil

    I have no problem with people posting corrections, even being pedantic, but be right, and for the love of $diety, don't be stupid!

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  78. Re:Geography. by scheming+daemons · · Score: 3, Funny
    Obligatory off-topic blonde joke:

    What did the blonde say when she heard that 10 Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq?

    "I didn't know there were that many soldiers in the whole world!"

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  79. Obligitory Matrix Reference by broeken · · Score: 1

    I can't understand why the 'Woman in the Red Dress' wasn't a finalist!!

  80. Reality by kadathseeker · · Score: 1

    To reproduce the most authentic personalities for virtual women, they should all run like Windows - do I really need to elaborate?

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    1. Re:Reality by HTL2001 · · Score: 1

      well in order to explain some of the windows "features" you will need to include "epileptic" to explain the random seizures. Otherwize, you could be quite right

      OR, you can relate it to that "how to install quake on linux" thing I've seen every now and then

      great, now I can get downmodded by both the MS AND the Linux fanboys :p

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    2. Re:Reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a geek joke, but also a girl joke... I can understand if the mods are confused.

  81. Polygon count by tsa · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the website:

    HEIGHT: 5'5"
    WEIGHT: 121 pounds
    POLYGON COUNT: 48,200


    Never ask a lady her polygon count!

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  82. translucent skin? by peter303 · · Score: 1

    None of the four in the Wired article appear to using translucent skin techiques discussed at SIGGRAPH the past three years. Human skin has lots of oil, and different amounts in different places. Locks more realistic when you do this right. But is an expensive computation.

  83. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by FurryFeet · · Score: 2, Funny


    But they are! The English have London, and the German have Berlin (and used to have Bonn, to boot). Also, I don't see how that's any of GP's business.

  84. Re:Sad. by orasio · · Score: 1

    I wasn't talking about virtual girls being virtual assistants. I was talking about models losing their jobs, and working as real life assistants!!

    Maybe _that_ is pathetic, and only technology won't change it, of course.

    About virtual assitants, well, virtual stuff is usually associated with fantasy. If you take into account that men are the main consumers of "virtual" products, it's logical that there should be tits involved. It's a marketing issue, more than a design issue.
    I don't think commercials need to show naked women in them, but I understand why they do. I does make sense. It's about maximizing sales, taking into account what the consumer likes. Men don't want a deodorant, they want blondes with huge racks. And when it comes to virtual environments, a blonde with a huge rack beats Clippy every time.

  85. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by MonkWB · · Score: 1

    4) Retreat to safe distance as server gets warm and shows cracks

    I do kind of want to see cracks..

  86. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeesh, some people think God invented war to teach Americans geography. I don't know why.

    Apparently, the Americans invented war to teach God how to spell geographical names.

  87. pr0n by hachete · · Score: 1

    Sorry, are we posting pr0n now?

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  88. Pakistanis by magnus_1986 · · Score: 1

    Slightly offtopic but I have to say that Pakistani ladies seem to be some of the most beautiful in the world. Being of very conservative views they dont enter the miss world competition but I would not be surprised to find a Pakistani lady among the top 3. There is something to their beauty that makes you want to gaze on. I am saying this from experience, I went to Karachi and Lahore last year and was left speechless by their beauty...

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  89. Go Back to The Future. It's medically safer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and using birth control pills is a great way to increase your risks for ovarian and endometrial cancer, not to mention PID (Pelvic Inflammatory Disease). Which is natural? I'm sorry, what was your point again?

  90. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Errr, is this supposed to be funny because I don't understand it.

    Are you trying to say that Brazil has a small army? If so, why is that funny? If you are belittling another country for having a small army, don't you think that's rather pathetic? Having a big army and using it to project power over others to coerce them to your will is nothing to be proud of.

  91. Re:Sad. by bgivnin · · Score: 1

    Kaya was proportedly created [...] as to appear non-threatening.

    Which is interesting, because of all the pictures on that site, I think Kaya looks the best. Her teeth aren't perfect, she's got freckles (reminds me of Kate on Lost), she's looking away from the camera (not straight on it like 3 of the others) and she's got hair. I say that last comment because 'Sophie Winters' looks creepy with the bald head. Maybe if she had long, dark, shoulder length hair, she'd be a decent contender, but who knows.

    I can totally see these kind of CG models used in animated billboards like the ones in Minority Report, in the mall stores when Tom Cruise went in to get the new clothes and all the girls were trying to get him to buy stuff.

  92. Re:Geography. by Garabito · · Score: 1

    "brazilian" sounds like "a zillion"

  93. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMGWTFBBBQ!!!!11!! You are no Slashdotter, your a fake! If you where real you would of remember that you forgot something.
    5) ???
    6) PROFIT!

  94. wrong again by mestreBimba · · Score: 1

    they spell it brasileiros.............

    Mestre Bimba ele morreu
    Mestre Bimba ele morreu
    Mestre Bimba ele morreu
    mas no coração do povo
    ele nunca faleceu
    deus te ponha em bom lugar
    esse homem varonil
    que deixou a capoeira
    para o povo do brasil
    meu senhor amigo meu
    meu senhor amigo meu
    me contou uma história
    capoeira hoje em dia
    é a arte é a glória, camará
    iê viva meu mestre
    Iê viva meu mestre, camarà
    iê quem me ensinou
    Iê quem me ensinou, camarà
    iê a malandragem
    Iê a malandragem, camarà
    iê da capoeira
    Iê da capoeira, camarà
    iê vamos embora
    Iê vamos embora, camarà

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  95. I have a pretty dang hot woman, and i'm a nerd by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    and she says she likes nerds.... Now all I have to do is carry around a little sock of quarters to bash nerds with glasses bigger than mine.

  96. To be precise... by jd · · Score: 1

    ...England used to have Winchester. The capital wasn't moved to London until quite late on.

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    1. Re:To be precise... by dylan_- · · Score: 1
      ...England used to have Winchester. The capital wasn't moved to London until quite late on.
      Quite late on? It was 1000 years ago....I think London is fairly well established now... ;-)
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    2. Re:To be precise... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      1000 years ago? Hell, there are buildings in just about every English city older than that. When I was in England in 2003, one of the locals refered to some ruins that were "only about 700 years old" as "pretty new". Then he showed us how to find what we were looking for on our map, which was slightly older at about 1500 years.

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    3. Re:To be precise... by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      The very high wall on one side of my uncle's back yard and stretching beyond it was built by Roman soldiers. This is in Lincoln.

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  97. You forgot to mention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I question whether this stereotype is true. Most nerdy slashdot-reading guys I know, (myself included,) are either married or have girlfriends.

    We all own Ferraris too!

  98. Determining Fertility by SeanDuggan · · Score: 2, Informative

    That or there's the symptothermal method where the female checks their body temperature upon waking which is also highly accurate. However, using non-artifical methods shouldn't be seen as a carte blanche. A good Catholic should consider whether they're actually delaying kids for a good reason (can't support them yet, conditions currently make childbirth an iffy proposition) or if it's for more selfish reasons (want to buy that new sportscar first, can't stand the possibility of losing free time to tending children, don't want to risk ruining their figure). *shrug* And not everyone follows that, but that's what's suggested.

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    1. Re:Determining Fertility by sa666_666 · · Score: 1

      or if it's for more selfish reasons (want to buy that new sportscar first, can't stand the possibility of losing free time to tending children, don't want to risk ruining their figure)

      Why are those reasons considered selfish? Can people choose not to have children and not be labeled as selfish? Maybe some people just don't want them. And the reasons aren't selfish or non-selfish; they just are. Of course, a lot of people think you're absolutely weird if you don't want children. Why is that?

  99. New meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For digital wack off

  100. NFP and naturalness by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    *shrug* I've had this debate with people before. I guess it all depends on your point of view. I've always seen it as working with the system rather than artificially suppressing it. I've had other people say that it's perverting the system by acting against natural order. I guess I could see either side. Sex is biologically set up in mammalian species so that one is most in the mood and gets the most pleasure during the fertile period. Humans, on average, are no longer much affected by this, being in the mood to have sex at all times. That is not always the case. I knew a girl who was only interested during fertile periods and when she was, she was... well, let's just say that she pretty much "went into heat" on those occasions. *wry grin* She also used to argue that NFP was fundamentally wrong because it involved understanding how the reproductive systems worked and she felt that that was knowledge no one should learn, let along use. She was a bit of an odd sort, admittedly.

    Personally, I'm not altogether morally outraged by physical means of contraception, although I do not plan on using them. The chemical methods I'm less kosher with as a) I'm leary of manipulating body chemistry for entertainment purposes and b) the only reason the horomone based methods are classified as "contraceptive" rather than "potential abortifacent" is that the manufacturers lobbied to have the official definition of a contraceptive as not preventing contraception, but preventing implantation. Even then, it's estimated that some 5% of cases involve a child who implants but dies of starvation shortly after. Besides which, the NFP and related methods statistically lead to happier and longer-lasting marriages.

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  101. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by Steve+Cowan · · Score: 2, Funny
    4) Retreat to safe distance as server gets warm and shows cracks

    I just checked the site and they're still only showing faces.

  102. NFP vs. Rhythm by SeanDuggan · · Score: 2, Informative

    The joke originally cited the rhythm method, which did have a fair amount of "failure" to it. Many people either haven't noticed that the method has improved, or don't want to acknowledge it. *shrug* NFP is in the 99.999% range when done properly and is statistically correlated with happy and long marriages. I'm not sure why they're so afraid to consider it.

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  103. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

    Oh come on! You know very well that nothing be really be capitalized until after its IPO.

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  104. I'm certain by jd · · Score: 1

    that there are some exceptionally sick guys who would think that was perfect.

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  105. Perfection and Settling by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Yeah, well that door swings both ways. Read some personal ads by women some day. Thay want the perfect guy who just stepped out of a cheesy romantic comedy who dotes on their every whim and is always around except when he goes to his job- managing (for about 45 minutes a day) the upscale art gallery he owns.
    Hmmm... I wonder if maybe there's a difference not necessarily in what they expect, but what they'll settle for? I know that with the guys I know, there's often a particular physical model they're looking for and they find it hard to compromise on it, particular if their standards involve skinniness. Contrast against the average female personal ad which seems to focus more on personality traits, which can sometimes be changed and trained.

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  106. Cyber Life by writerjosh · · Score: 1

    Not to be a wet blanket, but do we really need more confusion of reality? I mean, I'm all for art and the admiration of the female form, but I can see the future of this: people having full conversations with the AI versions of Kaya or Webbie. They then fall in love, get cyber married, then create AI children. Next comes a cyber house with a cyber dog and cyber neighbors...all because we've learned how to create (literally) our own "perfect" world instead of engaging in the real world. I say leave modeling to the professionals: humans.

    1. Re:Cyber Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called "SimCity", for the uninformed. :-)

  107. the beam in your eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, thanks for the sermon, reverend.

  108. Virtual pron and ages by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    There's plenty of it out there, although most of it is made by people in Poser and 3D Studio and it lacks a certain professionalism. Incidentally, on the second topic, at one point legislation was released in the US to curtail such works, but the act was stricken down on account of that a) there were no real people being harmed and b) how does one do an age check on someone who's not alive? On (b), I think a lot of it boiled down to the "lolita" models who're over 18, but look younger. With an actual model, you can pull out birth certificates to prove they're legal. With a virtual model, she could look 12 and you could claim just about any age you like. (As a sidenote, I've known three different girls who still look 12 even though they're in their mid-20's.)

    Heh, I remember when that act got signed, all of the anime people were in a tizzy because technically speaking, Sailor Moon and her crew were all well underage. Never mind that they looked like they were much older...

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  109. Virtual Murder by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Heh... ever see S1m0ne? Magic technology, of course, but the concept was interesting enough. Admittedly, he used a virus (on a floppy with convenient skull screen labels) to wipe her out rather than just a delete key.

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  110. Re:Brasil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though "here" would be incorrect.

  111. They all look like... by helix_r · · Score: 1


    They all look like they've just been hit in the back of the head with a bean bag, you know, a blank expression stare-into-space-look just before losing consciousness.

    1. Re:They all look like... by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Try holding a pose for ten minutes while somebody fusses with the camera. That's why posed models tend to look vacant.

      Some fashion photographers strive for more dynamism in their shots. That's hard to do. Most photographers can't bring it off consistently. A few can. Look at Richard Avedon's work. That's why he's one of the greats.

  112. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It looks like there are two (not mutually exclusive) possibilities here:

    #1 You married a loser.
    #2 She married a loser.

    As far as proof goes:
    We have one witness for #1.
    All of /. can see the evidence for #2.

  113. Self-selecting Eugenics by jd · · Score: 1

    I'd like to offer a small correction. The small-minded, petty and purile will opt for teledildonics and wipe themselves out. And this is a problem, how? As I see it, the ones who will do well here are going to be the artists (who are generally kept in extreme poverty in western - or any other - civilization) and the computer geeks. The ones who will do badly are those who let their testosterone levels think for them - generally the power-drunk people that geeks keep complaining about, along with those who aspire to be power-drunk. I fail to see how anybody actually looses from such people rendering themselves extinct.

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    1. Re:Self-selecting Eugenics by squoozer · · Score: 1

      I think you miss the point. It could cause the end of civilization as we know it. Certainly it could be the end of some developed countries. At first it would be fine because the systems wouldn't be very good but imagine if we developed them to the point where they were they were indistinguishable from real life.

      The first machines would be seen as harmless. They wouldn't be good enough to hold peoples attention and only a few people would use them extensivly. Later machines would be better and more people would become interested in trying them out. The next generation of machines are almost able to simulate real life. By this point there is a huge number of users that want the next great thing. They are addicted to the games.

      The final version of the machines are able to simulate real life to the point where we can't tell the difference between the game and real life. Actually, perhaps we could tell the difference - real life is boring in comparison. Most people would become addicted.

      If you don't think this could happen just look at the way computer games have grown in popularity. They started off as just geek toys now every kid plays them and quite a few adults. Current games aren't even close to simulating reality yet there are plenty of people spending several hours a day playing them. Further more, imagine a "game" where you could do anything, be anyone, act out any fantasy. Why would you ever want to come back to the real world? The only thing that might save us is that you would need to experience the real world for the virtual world to seem amazing.

      For all your "it wouldn't happen to me" posturing I am pretty sure that it would. Even if it didn't how are you going to live in a world where half or more of the population is stuck in or addicted to a virtual world?

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  114. Only TRUE nerds will read this article... by doctorjay · · Score: 1

    for the article :)

  115. reply to sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps I just don't know enough about music that I don't like, but I could have sworn that Mr. Lennon recieved money for his music, and never put any of it in the public domain.

  116. Re:We need a hack to integrate ... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

    From the description:

    So detailed it's like being with a real Asian girl!

    Your right! I'd never notice it's not the real thing! Except....oh....maybe that 99% of her body's missing!!

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  117. Re:Geography. by blueturffan · · Score: 1
    The punch line I heard was:

    "That's so sad. How many is a Brazillian?"

  118. Peeflix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peeflix? That sounds nasty.

  119. Some of us prefer isolation by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

    The type of person you typically find on Slashdot is probably more introverted than the norm. I am borderline autistic and I really find maintaining relationships with people to be extremely trying. I orchestrate all my human interactions to make them as BRIEF and superficial as possible. I have a super-hot girlfriend, but I only really enjoy her company for the physical aspect. If she never said a word, I'd like her better.

    That said, I especially don't see any value in a virtual girl. If you can't touch her, then what's the point? To have a conversation?

    Maybe the point of our existence is to learn to get along with each other. If that's the case, the only foolproof method I've learned is to avoid people altogether.

    Some of us thrive on reclusion. I'd argue that because we are not dependent on the emotional support of others that we are in a way superior, not defective.

  120. Selfishness and Children by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    Why are those reasons considered selfish? Can people choose not to have children and not be labeled as selfish? Maybe some people just don't want them. And the reasons aren't selfish or non-selfish; they just are. Of course, a lot of people think you're absolutely weird if you don't want children. Why is that?
    I guess I would use the word selfish because, in the reasons I listed, it's the people deciding that they want these resources more than they would want their children to have them. Short of farming your children out as labor, you do tend to wind up with less materially. You'll have to sacrifice considerable time and money in their uptake. Even once they're successful engineers or doctors, there is no guarantee of money funneling back because they have their own lives and possibly their own families to tend to. So yes, I would characterize choosing not to have kids as being selfish versus selfless simply by definition. On the other hand, there are sometimes good reasons not to have children. If you really are unable to care for them, you have good reason to delay children.

    As for not having them at all... that's a sticky point to me. I'm Catholic and I believe that the purpose of marriage is ultimately to have a family. It also seems weird from my perspective because children our your legacy, your gift to the world. You live on through them and, if you raise your kids right, they will enrich the world. Again, we get into the whole selfish versus selfless thing.

    And, in the end, I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me. That is their right, even if I think they're wrong. There will always be people who will decide that their life is better off without children to get in the way. There will be those who blatantly couch in those terms and those who will talk about population explosions or "not wanting my kid to grow up like me." I'm just stating my opinion on the matter.

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    1. Re:Selfishness and Children by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Oh, shit. I'm Catholic, but am avoiding babies because of the detrimental helath impact it would have on my wife (she'd most likely die or lose the baby - something like >75% odds - and would likely pass along the dominant gene for her condition to a child either way). I guess it's a good thing I didn't get married in a church, so the church probably doesn't recognized my marriage as valid anyway. That way I can get a divorce without having to get the annulment, and find a specimen more physically suitable for the Catholic marriage God wants me to have.

      Perhaps that makes us selfish bastards, with our terrible view that the intentional creation of a child with a debilitating disease, no mother, and a subsequently depressed father (due to losing his wife prematurely) might not be the best idea. Or maybe Catholicism's views aren't universally perfect...

  121. Mine looks like Number 5 by GreenSwirl · · Score: 1

    My GF looks just like the fifth virtual finalist!

    Mine likes nerds, too. Her favorite nickname for me is 'dork'. Gotta say, though, most girls I dated were not really into the nerdiness. My vast toy spaceship collection works pretty good to sort out the nerd-haters from the nerd-lovers.

  122. Re:Geography. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh that's soooo weak.

  123. any notice the eyes? by Rezun8er · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks to me as if the eyes were taken straight from the top National Geographic magazine cover (http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/afghangir l/). You can't help but stare at those eyes for a few seconds... very captivating.

  124. If she's an android... by ross.w · · Score: 1

    ...does she dream of electric sheep?

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  125. Re:Geography. by SamSim · · Score: 1

    Interesting fact: one Brazillion is roughly 186,112,794 i.e. the number of people living in Brazil right now. The fact that nobody actually knows this is the real joke which us mathematical types have been laughing at behind the scenes for some time now.

  126. Kimono != Geisha by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

    Just because a woman is in traditional Japanese kimono does not make her a geisha. If you've ever seen a real geisha, or even just a photo, or even looked the word up in a dictionary, you'd know the difference. The new Memoirs of a Geisha looks pretty bad, but will probably help a few people out in understanding the difference between a courtesan/entertainer and every other woman in Japan.

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  127. fugly fugly! bwarfffff! by Wabbit+Wabbit · · Score: 1

    Amazing!!! Here these people had a chance to invent their ideal woman from scratch. FROM SCRATCH! And that's the best they can do???? Sad. /end rant

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  128. Re:Sad. by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    You didn't get modded as a troll for your opinion. You got modded for expressing your opinion like a complete asshat. You could have phrased your position politely and you might have gotten modded up as interesting.

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  129. Nope. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    The Catholic Church mantains that having sex for fun is not to be done.

    The only purpose of sex is reproduction according to them, thus any method that would allow you to enjoy sex without worrying about procreating is un-catholic.

    I wish I was joking, but that is how that people see the world.

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    1. Re:Nope. by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      Completely untrue. If you're a Catholic you should go back to church and speak with your priest... having sex is supposed to be fun and not a guilty pleasure either. Things have changed a lot since the 50s.

      All you're doing is perpetuating a myth ;-p not to mention that it sounds a whole lot like YOU have guilt about sex. Maybe your mother is to blame, maybe your father... but don't blame religion for your own self-hate.

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  130. No, you are both wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I know better because I saw it on tv.

  131. Re:How to test a server (heavy duty massive access by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    No, the server is down, you can't see any cracks at all.

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  132. Re:Brasil by donscarletti · · Score: 1

    Countries are known by different names in different languages, get over it. At least Brazil sounds like Brasil, you should hear what Deutschland is called in different languages: "Germany", "Allemagne", "Niemcy", "Tyskland". Slashdot involves discussions in English, if you don't like it, go to Orkut with the other 90% of speakers of Brazillian Portugese.

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  133. Re:Brasil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is only one Latin language, and, contrary to what the record labels want you to believe, it ain't what they speak in Cuba.

    The term you're looking for is Romance (I've got another bone to pick with you, Harlequin Books Ltd).

  134. OMFG STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This is the exact reason I quit Orkut almost a year ago. WAY too many BraZilians incessantly bitching and moaning that American's can't spell the name of their country right.

    Apparently you've been living in a fantasy world, so I guess someone should point out to you: different cultures could very well have different languages and therefore, by gosh by golley, might spell things differently too!
    GET OVER IT.

    Anglo-centric rubbish. It is only Brazil in English...
    Gee, and what language do we post in on this site? Perhaps... oh... ENGLISH??
  135. Re:Brasil by Phroggy · · Score: 1

    Ever here a native of the country or a Latin language (Spanish, Portugese, Italian, etc.) speaker pronounce the name?

    Did you mean Español, Português, Italiano, etc.?

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  136. LMFAO by aybiss · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or did this one get slashdotted out the ... nose :-D

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  137. Re:Brasil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stand corrected. Romance languages is correct. AKA those languages descended closely from Latin.

  138. Non-selfish reasons / Difficulty of Adoption by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    *wry grin* Were you following at all the discussion which led up to this point? I was commenting on selfish and non-selfish reasons not to have kids. When there's a high chance of mortality, that's generally one of those cases considered non-selfish. My brother's actually in about the same position. My sister-in-law takes medications which would not work with pregnancies. Take her off her meds and she won't survive for long. I know a couple in my church who just can't plain have children, for whatever reason. I'm honestly not sure what the official position is, but it's generally accepted that if you can't have kids, you can't have kids. I've known some more militant Catholics who take the position that childless marriages are invalid marriages, but I don't think that's the general position. I personally see it as perfectly valid and non-selfish to hold off on kids there.

    It's a shame that adoption is so hard and expensive these days. I know childless couples who want to adopt, but are stymied by the hurdles they have to jump in this country. Two couples I know have wound up going to China to adopt, but that costs a lot of money, is filled with a lot of risks involving the condition of the child when you get them or whether you get them at all, and smacks of buying a child to some people. On one hand, I can see the purpose of keeping people from adopting children who they would proceed to abuse or use, but any kid can face that whether they're with their birthparents or not.

    *sigh* And I'm sorry for my post getting you in such a temper. I don't know if I explicitly stated health reasons in my non-selfish list earlier or not. I don't know if you read the grandparent post by me. Either way, I probably brought up a painful subject for you. Like I said before, I've got some understanding of the situation with my brother's marriage. Not personal understanding, me being unmarried, but it's a pretty close secondhand thing.

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    1. Re:Non-selfish reasons / Difficulty of Adoption by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Didn't get me in a temper - I was just curious if you were in the militant "no kids = no marriage" camp or one of the (apparently) more common "moderate" Catholics. It wasn't quite clear from the post. *I* don't think I'm being selfish (though, having more toys for myself is certainly not and unpleasant side effect)... :)

  139. Outrageous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who works with 3D characters everyday, I can call this "competition" what it is: a joke. 90%+ of the entries (not from TFA, which is from last year) are straight out of Poser. The only talent required is dressing the premade model with premade clothes, and then posing her.

    If you want to see world class characters you should visit http://www.cgtalk.com/, or buy the book they printed recently, Exotique (you can see sample pages here:http://tinyurl.com/8c3rr). Even at the small sample page size you can easily see that the quality is much, much higher.