I'll be the minority here because I've used both an iPad and a windows 7 tablet (Asus T91MT). Windows 7 does a good job at handling touch events, and passing them to non-touch aware apps.
I have the choice between an iPad and a Windows 7 tablet, and I choose the Win 7 tablet.
Aliens land and embed an iPhone with UPS (Universal Positioning System) in everyone's heads Heads explode when non-user serviceable battery drops below critical recharge level
Not Hypothetical...
Apple has the right to market it's products as it sees fit People have the right to purchase the device that suits them, not one that some ubergeek has decided is best for society The free market exists to provide alternatives to inferior products and marketing decisions Android has recently proven that there are alternatives to an iPhone Ultimately governments step in to intervene when monopolies stifle innovation
Lots of companies are switching to laptops for everyone...the price of laptops dropping, their power increasing, benefits to working from home and the benefit of having one image for sales people and cube dwellers all combine to make it a desirable path forward.
And how are they throwing in the towel? Instead of distributing the pone on the web, they will have it in countless physical stores around the world. And for those who don't like stores and want to buy online? I'm guessing that every provider that sells the phone will make it available on their website.
the original t-mobile version would work on AT&T with the exception of 3G data - you'd be stuck using edge for data connection. They have since released an AT&T version of the N1 which would work on AT&T 3G (and thus not on t-mobile 3G). AT&T did not subsidize this, nor do they offer a discount if you bring your own phone, like t-mobile does.
Checking the prices on t-mobile.com, it appears the difference is $80 vs $60 so you are paying $350 up front for $480 in savings. Not sure about t-mobile, but with Verizon, and AT&T you are eligible for upgrade pricing on phones after 20 months of your contract, so assuming you want to upgrade in 20 months, it's $350 vs $400 which is $50 on $350 over 20 months, which is quite a nice interest rate compared to credit cards.
well assuming all the stolen property stuff is not 'wrong', I have difficulty believing that anyone would think that dismantling and breaking the phone before giving it back to apple is not 'wrong'.
When you lose something and then get upset because someone found it in good condition and decided to smash it before giving it back to you remember this post and try not to be hypocritical.
So did you even read the f'ing article? Silly question.
They mention people waiting to buy the new iPhone. They mention verizon's marketing push, including buy one get one free. They mention that this was not from sales figures, but from consumer surveys.
I'm not sure where you've been but the four quarters of the year labeled coincidentally, 1Q, 2Q, 3Q and 4Q, are pretty standard reporting periods.
Warping statistics to suit your agenda isn't impressive and that is really all your post is attempting to do.
According to federal law [duke.edu], they are required to have those on them anyways. Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 264(e) [uscis.gov]:
The problem I have with this is not the legal immigrants having ID, it's US citizens having to have ID. The police are supposed to take a citizens word for it that they are legal? I'm assuming that answer is no, so that means that a US citizen will have to have proof of identity with them at all times. No more going for a run with nothing but a $20 bill stuck in a sock.
And producing a drivers license? A drivers license is hardly proof of citizenship - you can get a license that is good for 25 years when you have a 1 year work visa (I know this from personal experience).
Also, what about kids? A fifteen year old american citizen, perhaps of hispanic descent that looks a few years older than he is. Will he have a drivers license?
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. They just didn't have a chance to getting working along with everything else they had to make happen to get the iPad out in a reasonable time frame.
I'm guessing the marketroids held it back to provide incentive for future 'upgrade sales'
I'll be the minority here because I've used both an iPad and a windows 7 tablet (Asus T91MT). Windows 7 does a good job at handling touch events, and passing them to non-touch aware apps.
I have the choice between an iPad and a Windows 7 tablet, and I choose the Win 7 tablet.
Hypothetical
Aliens land and embed an iPhone with UPS (Universal Positioning System) in everyone's heads
Heads explode when non-user serviceable battery drops below critical recharge level
Not Hypothetical...
Apple has the right to market it's products as it sees fit
People have the right to purchase the device that suits them, not one that some ubergeek has decided is best for society
The free market exists to provide alternatives to inferior products and marketing decisions
Android has recently proven that there are alternatives to an iPhone
Ultimately governments step in to intervene when monopolies stifle innovation
if the iPhone or iPad was as powerful as your desktop computer is now, why would it NOT replace the general computing market?
Ummm....because of the development issues imposed by Apple?
Program on anything you want...copy the files over to your MAc and compile them.
or compile them on a linux machine
http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/compile-farm/apple-darwin9.txt
Or stop thinking the world revolves around you.
Notice a lot of pocket device OS's?
Well, there is the iPhone OS, Symbian, Windows mobile, Android, Maemo, soon the be Meego, palm os, web os.
Economics also makes it quite clear that oligopolies can be extremely beneficial to the consumer, approaching perfect competition.
Huh? consoles are not computers, but iPhones are?
The console is a computer inside but it isn't a computer. The iPhone is a computer, except for the fact that it is not 'fully programmable'.
Are you sure you aren't my ex? The (lack of?) logic seems very familiar.
Lots of companies are switching to laptops for everyone...the price of laptops dropping, their power increasing, benefits to working from home and the benefit of having one image for sales people and cube dwellers all combine to make it a desirable path forward.
right - they haven't considered it...
And how are they throwing in the towel? Instead of distributing the pone on the web, they will have it in countless physical stores around the world. And for those who don't like stores and want to buy online? I'm guessing that every provider that sells the phone will make it available on their website.
the original t-mobile version would work on AT&T with the exception of 3G data - you'd be stuck using edge for data connection. They have since released an AT&T version of the N1 which would work on AT&T 3G (and thus not on t-mobile 3G). AT&T did not subsidize this, nor do they offer a discount if you bring your own phone, like t-mobile does.
Checking the prices on t-mobile.com, it appears the difference is $80 vs $60 so you are paying $350 up front for $480 in savings. Not sure about t-mobile, but with Verizon, and AT&T you are eligible for upgrade pricing on phones after 20 months of your contract, so assuming you want to upgrade in 20 months, it's $350 vs $400 which is $50 on $350 over 20 months, which is quite a nice interest rate compared to credit cards.
If they know it's not a fake, then ultimately they will face the same situation.
They will be spending more of their own time and money, and possibly be liable for the additional court costs of the winning side.
That sounds like a potentially large risk to them.
Loser...I saw the 4k coco in the 'Shack and chose the 16k model...
Dungeons of Daggorath? Polaris? The mining donkey kong clone (can't believe I can't remember the name)
It was too expensive compared to other computers to every become the system most people owned, and it fell behind when it came to pros
Sounds like bad marketing to me...
Sushi became popular exactly because of this
really? Here I thought it was because it was yummy...
"This whole Linux thing won't work because I have better things to do with my free time than program a computer." **
**quote taken from slashdot comment in 1994***
***actually a hypothetical quote taken in 1994 if slashdot had existed in 1994
well assuming all the stolen property stuff is not 'wrong', I have difficulty believing that anyone would think that dismantling and breaking the phone before giving it back to apple is not 'wrong'.
When you lose something and then get upset because someone found it in good condition and decided to smash it before giving it back to you remember this post and try not to be hypocritical.
So did you even read the f'ing article? Silly question.
They mention people waiting to buy the new iPhone. They mention verizon's marketing push, including buy one get one free. They mention that this was not from sales figures, but from consumer surveys.
I'm not sure where you've been but the four quarters of the year labeled coincidentally, 1Q, 2Q, 3Q and 4Q, are pretty standard reporting periods.
Warping statistics to suit your agenda isn't impressive and that is really all your post is attempting to do.
So I typed Droid ovpn into google, and the first hit was:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/10796-got-openvpn-running-2-1-a.html
OTOH, since Verizon is giving smart phones away in an effort to inflate the non-Apple smart phone numbers,
Verizon is giving away phones to get more 2 year, $70/month contracts
Other way around. AT&T works well in population centers.
Unless that population center is Phoenix...I just switched back to Verizon after 2 years of AT&T...what a difference.
And the Incredible vs iPhone? No contest...Incredible wins by a long shot (but to be expected comparing it to a year old iPhone)
Interesting - when I got my tablet I was surprised at how well windows 7 handled touch and parsed touch events to present to non-touch aware apps.
Not perfect, but pretty darn good in my opinion.
Yeah so?
Blackberry does it on their devices, Hotmail does it, Android phones do it. So you hate all of them too?
Federal law already does that in the case of foreign nationals.
And the new arizona law makes this the case for US citizens.
According to federal law [duke.edu], they are required to have those on them anyways. Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 264(e) [uscis.gov]:
The problem I have with this is not the legal immigrants having ID, it's US citizens having to have ID. The police are supposed to take a citizens word for it that they are legal? I'm assuming that answer is no, so that means that a US citizen will have to have proof of identity with them at all times. No more going for a run with nothing but a $20 bill stuck in a sock.
And producing a drivers license? A drivers license is hardly proof of citizenship - you can get a license that is good for 25 years when you have a 1 year work visa (I know this from personal experience).
Also, what about kids? A fifteen year old american citizen, perhaps of hispanic descent that looks a few years older than he is. Will he have a drivers license?