WMDRM does support it. You can issue multiple licenses with various priorities. You can simply issue a revocation license with the highest priority and allow 0 plays. (This of course assumes the normal license has a low priority number). However you would have to trust the user to run the revocation page, which would have an embedded WMP to feed the license to.
There is NO authorisation step for burning to CD. The rights are download on first play of the track, and this includes the burning rights. Burning to CD will not require an extra step.
MS DRM bundles all the rights together when it is delivered, so the CD burn rights and counts will be downloaded at the same time as the play rights. So there will be no communication between Media Player and the license server until your license expires.
There is a version of WMP for the Mac, but it doesn't support the latest and "greatest" DRM version (it's still stuck on v1, Windows DRM support is up to 2.2a)
An Italian astronomer named Schiaparelli created some of the first maps of Mars. He named features using words from biblical and mythical geography. Some of these names, such as Argyre, Hellas, and Tempe, are still used on maps and globes of Mars.
In the 1970s, after the Mariner spacecraft flew by Mars, many new images were returned to Earth. A special group of people was formed to decide on names for the newly discovered features. This group also set up rules for naming future discoveries.
All features on Mars have two names. The first is a formal name following the international rules that have been established. The other is a geologic name. The second name tells us what type of geologic feature it is. Following are some examples of geologic names:
Mons: mountain
Crater: circular depression
Dorsum: ridge
Planum: plateau or high plain
Fossa: depression (hole)
Valles: valley
For example, Olympus Mons is a mountain formed by a volcano. It is named after Mount Olympus in Greece. Sometimes the name order is reversed. For example, in Valles Marineris, the geologic name comes first. Valles Marineris is a valley named after the Mariner spacecraft that first flew by Mars.
Anyone can submit a name for a specific feature on Mars! The group meets once each year to consider appropriate names. If you would like to suggest a name for a feature on Mars, send your suggestion to the U.S. Geological Survey, Branch of Astrogeology, Room 409, 2255 N. Gemini Drive, Flagstaff, AZ 86001.
Rules for Naming Martian Features
Large craters are named after deceased scientists who have contributed to the study of Mars.
Gusev (Maturei M., 1826-1866, Russian astronomer)
Lowell (Percival, 1855-1916, American astronomer)
Small craters are named for villages and towns of the world with populations less than 100,000.
Aspen (Town in Colorado, USA)
Bira (Town in Russia)
Isil (Town in Spain)
Jama (Town in Tunisia)
Kakori (Town in India)
Large valleys are named for the word used for Mars in various languages of the world.
Ares Vallis (word for Mars in Greek)
Mangala Valles (word for Mars in Sanskrit)
Marte Vallis (word for Mars in Spanish)
Mawrth Vallis (word for Mars in Welsh)
Nirgal Vallis (word for Mars in Babylonian)
Tiu Vallis (word for Mars in Old English)
Small valleys are named for classical or modern names of rivers.
Indus Vallis (river in Pakistan)
Naktong Vallis (river in Korea)
Warrego Valles (river in Australia)
All other features retain the names given by Schiaparelli or Antoniadi, another Italian astronomer.
Amazonis Planitia (classical name)
Libya Mons (classical name)
Olympus Mons (classical name)
Rules for Naming Craters
Naming rules exist for most features on planets, moons, and asteroids. The following are the regulations for craters:
Craters on Mercury are named after famous deceased artists, musicians, painters, or authors.
Large craters on Venus are named after famous women.
Small craters on Venus are given common female first names.
Large craters on Earth's moon are named after famous deceased scientists, scholars, or artists.
Small craters on the moon are given common first names.
Craters on Jupiter's moon Europa are given names of Celtic gods and heroes.
Craters on Jupiter's moon Ganymede are named for gods and heroes of the ancient Fertile Crescent people.
Craters on the asteroid Ida are named for caverns and grottos of the world.
What I want to know is how will an Windows OS reinstall effect the downloaded music files/DRM?
In theory (I've had it working twice, but others have had problems) backing up the licenses (easy, tools / license management) and restoring to the same machine will work, as the machine ID comes from your hardware (like the windows activation code).
It really sucks that they went with WM9/SDMI. Good luck backing these puppies up!
You mean Tools / License Management and then click the backup button? Where's the luck involved there, unless your ADD means you don't read menu options <g>
It depends on the rights the label granted. If you have the burn to CD right (and an appropriate count left), you can burn away. Then rip it back to what you want, including MP3 or non-DRM WMA if you want...
One of the big flaws with the DRM on Microsoft's side has been that DRM is locked to the workstation. The iTunes Music Store did away with that, by allowing music to be locked to the person that bought it. You can easily authorize and deauthorize ANY Macintosh anywhere to be able to play your music.
Thats more a limitation of the developer. It's perfectly easy to support multiple machines, simply prompt for membership details in the license acquisition page (been there, done that). Nothing in the MS DRM SDK stops this, lazy programmers or clueless business types do.
The biggest issue I see is that a fair number of people will need to upgrade to Windows Media Player 9.
Actually buy.com is wrong, WM7 will play DRM 2.2 "protected" files, I've spent the last 1.5 years making them and supporting a system around them. I'd guess buy.com are trying to make their support life easier by limited it to the latest media player.
I only know this because they have a do it yourself barcode scanner for shopping and razor blades always come up as "Declare to cashier".
Last week I asked why. The cashier said it's because kids go in and steal them a lot, then come back the next day and ask for the money back (a pack of 8 is rather expensive, and they are easy to slip into pockets). So Waitrose watch the blades carefully and always check reciepts.
Bullshit. Perhaps you mean to say DRM is unbeneficial in its current form to consumers? Even then bullshit.
DRM has benefits right now, ask Apple, they seem to be making a few million dollar benefits out of a system which includes a form of DRM.
Want to stop users running as root or deleting your files on a shared system? That's a form of DRM, which has benefits?
Want to stop recruitment agencies chopping your CV into pieces, editing it around and submitting it for jobs for which you are unsuited and wasting your time? Produce your CV as a PDF which stops that. There's a benefit for you.
Want to produce a game for the PS/2, the XBox or any other console? Want to make sure that people buy it and you actually make some money from your effort? DRM again, woah, profit as a benefit? How unlike slashdot.
Just because something annoys you does not make it unbenefical to everyone, nor does making blanket statements of your political beliefs as fact provide any benefit to an arguement.
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Imbedded Tiny Basic into MS DOS - removing all language competitors
Actually IBM put BASICA in the ROM of the XTs, Microsoft put GWBasic in with DOS. Of course, we're all stuck using GWBasic now, as no language competitors exist.
Included primitive Games with windows
That's right, we're limited to playing solitare. Damn those linux gamers, with their fancy Wolfenstein 3D that Windows users don't have. Damn microsoft for limiting us to minesweeper.
Included Lan management software into the operating system, causing pain to 3com, Novell, and others.
Damn MS for including SNMP, because no other operating system does that.
Gave away the browser, causing serious financial strain to Netscape
Damn MS, for killing netscape. There's no other browser but for IE, errr, and Netscape, and Mozilla, and Opera.... Oh, and damn Netscape for killing Mosaic.
Bought Hotmail (free email), and gave away browser-based email.
Damn Microsoft, Yahoo can't produce webmail and give it away free now.
Included a bazillion features into the office suite, eliminating lots of specialized software applications.
Damn Microsoft for adding features, because all I really want from Office is notepad with a different title bar. Text formatting and tables aren't important to me. And damn those cheeky open office people for doing the same thing, but claiming Open is good.
Gave away SQL for small apps, in the form of MSDE.
Damn microsoft, now there are no other database engines out there. Except for Oracle, and a few free ones I read about somewhere. But the free ones are for commies anyway.
Microsoft has made a practice of eliminating competition by giving away software! Where have you been?
Great, so lets stop people giving away software. It's obviously bad. Mr Torvalds, to the dungeon with you. Begin the Minesweeper torture!
Microsoft did a bad job marketing.net. First it was web services, then came SQL.net and Windows.net. Even now article like the quoted eweek one talk about.net as it it's simply web services. Add to this the weenies that talk about passport as if it's the be all and end all of.net.
So what have they delivered for the developer? (what follows is my opinion, as someone who has used it and is still using it)
Well there's Visual Studio, an excellent IDE for those that use IDEs.
There's C#, VB.Net and an architecture that has allow Python.net, Perl.net, Fortran.net, Cobol.net and others. The multitude of languages comes into its own when you realise that objects written in one language are easily used in every other language, so you can have 1 developer using Perl, another using C#. Try that in Java. Try any cross language development in Java.
There's the.net framework, an nice OO library which is, of course, available to any.net language.
There's ASP.net which makes development of event driven sites a hell of a lot easier than embedded your own hidden frames and attaching page loads of those frames as javascript events trigger.
There's WinForms, yet another forms interface, but as it's usuable in any language there is no more bodged MFC.
Of course you do have web services, easy SOAP libraries, really nice XML support, remoting and other funky stuff.
Should MS give up? Hell no, they've produced a wonderful environment for developing for windows. Developing more than web services.
I don't think you can comment on.net unless you've used it. Journalists need not apply, nor should MS marketing people:)
Trying to get secure email has been a bugbear for me ever since my mail server started supporting secure IMAP and secure SMTP.
The hardware specifications are as follows:
Toshiba Tecra 9100, European, with built-in wireless (an orinocco under the hood)
One Netgear ME102 nice and simple
mdaemon mail server (altn.com)
Outlook XP (so sue me)
A couple of revisions ago mdaemon started supporting SSL for IMAP and SMTP. Great, I thought, I'll enable that in Outlook and when I'm out and about on public APs I'll have secured email. Not that simple. On enabling the SSL support in Outlook the Toshiba would drop its wireless connection every time I checked for new mail. Take SSL support off, and it kept a steady connection. I asked a friend I know internally at MS if there were any known problems with SSLed IMAP over wireless. He came up a blank, checked it with the MS internal WLAN, and with his home WLAN, and it worked flawlessly for him.
So, as Netgear were the easiest people to contact, I sent a detailed email to their support group. Despite being promised a 24 hour turnaround by the auto responder, 1 month later, nothing.
Toshiba are impossible for the end user to contact, so that was a dead end.
Eventually I updated the Orinocco drivers, grabbing them from the manufacturer site (a risk, as you know how fussy laptop drivers can be, especially Toshiba), but the problem still arose.
So where does the problem lie? XP, Outlook? (Nope, that configuration works elsewhere). The Orinoco card? The Netgear? Who knows, there are too many variables.
Nothing, nada, I still get drop outs when using secure IMAP. It's generally overkill setting up a VPN at home, so I'm stuck with unsecure IMAP.
Microsoft and Sony to make sure DVD players and cell phones can communicate with each other over a home wireless network
Way to go. Lets look at CNet's article. It states
set to unveil a joint effort to make sure that their products--from computers to DVD players to cell phone
Note this doesn't limit the communication to swapping between phones and DVDs as the article author seems to think. Note the slashdot article seems to leave out the computers part of the CNet article. Add that back in, and what do you have? A standard protocol for your home devices, computers, Pocket PCs, Palms, mobile phones, printers to swap files.
Lets now look at the example use given in the Cnet article
people would be able to play digital audio on their living-room stereo even though the music files themselves are stored on a computer in the den.
Sounds useful doesn't it? Does it sound like extending DRM? Probably note, especially as Microsoft and Sony each have their own DRM technologies.
The slashdot "article" justifies itself by pretending
The file can already be shared via wireless email or WiFi
Really? I don't know of a common mobile phone with WiFi, or a home stereo system, or a DVD. Strange, I don't have an email option on my stero.
I wish you could moderate slashdot parent articles, this one is either a Troll or Flamebait. Nice lack of checking even the CNet article Timothy.
. If you're using a Microsoft operating system, you won't be able to tell the difference between 1.1 and 2.
Nice FUD. Did you even check?
From XP on two machines, 1 with USB 1.1, one with USB 2.0. Device Manager reports USB 1.1 as a standard USB Universal Host Controller. On the 2.0 machine it's labelled as USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller. I can tell the difference, can't you?
However it's the device driver that sets these strings, so a hardware manufacturer could, in theory deceptively label their devices. Then again, Microsoft isn't responsible for the acts of third parties.
Also, has anyone actually come across a data centre that is making use of multi-hundred-TB NTFS volumes?
Yup, 3 Windows NTFS NAS machines, clustered, to feed windows and real streaming servers (running Windows 2k). About 800Tb on each NAS, but there's a limit on the logical drive size, which is a royal pain in the butt, you can't have a single 800Tb logical drive.
Why doesn't Microsoft adopt an open standard like ReiserFS, JFS, or XFS?
Simple, none of the *nix filesystems out there support the Windows security model. So, even if they based it on an open source file system, they would have to extend it to cope with the NT permissions model.
However, that would provide lots of scope for slashdot rantings about embrace and extend...
And what good is that? Apple is a GUI system. The GUI part of OS/X is NOT Open. The bits you want access to, to render text or graphics or make your application look pretty enough for Apple users are closed.
Seems to me that what is reall going on is liberal 'fairness'. Think about it. You live in the EU and you can buy stuff online cheaper from the US then actually walking into a local store and buying it.
Gee that isn't 'fair'.
Seems fair to me.
If the US was such a bastion of free trade like you image, explain the protectionist steel tarrifs right now which stop US companies importing cheap steel from Europe?
The US has it's own protectionist policies, why can't the EU.
Thats my main problem with the 7650. Then there's the shitty battery life once you start keeping the screen backlight on, for example when you use WAP, or play games. 1 hour of playing snood on the train into work and I've gone from full battery to damn, I need to recharge now.
It's heavy, it crashes about once a week (so I have to yank the battery out), the syncing software doesn't play nicely with the BlueTooth stack on my Toshiba 9100. The syncing software itself is buggy and upgrades to it don't overwrite the old software so you end up with multiple startup items, which interfere with each other.
Come August I'm getting rid ot it, and I'm seriously looking at a SmartPhone.
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WMDRM does support it. You can issue multiple licenses with various priorities. You can simply issue a revocation license with the highest priority and allow 0 plays. (This of course assumes the normal license has a low priority number). However you would have to trust the user to run the revocation page, which would have an embedded WMP to feed the license to.
There is NO authorisation step for burning to CD. The rights are download on first play of the track, and this includes the burning rights. Burning to CD will not require an extra step.
MS DRM bundles all the rights together when it is delivered, so the CD burn rights and counts will be downloaded at the same time as the play rights. So there will be no communication between Media Player and the license server until your license expires.
There is a version of WMP for the Mac, but it doesn't support the latest and "greatest" DRM version (it's still stuck on v1, Windows DRM support is up to 2.2a)
An Italian astronomer named Schiaparelli created some of the first maps of Mars. He named features using words from biblical and mythical geography. Some of these names, such as Argyre, Hellas, and Tempe, are still used on maps and globes of Mars.
In the 1970s, after the Mariner spacecraft flew by Mars, many new images were returned to Earth. A special group of people was formed to decide on names for the newly discovered features. This group also set up rules for naming future discoveries.
All features on Mars have two names. The first is a formal name following the international rules that have been established. The other is a geologic name. The second name tells us what type of geologic feature it is. Following are some examples of geologic names:
For example, Olympus Mons is a mountain formed by a volcano. It is named after Mount Olympus in Greece. Sometimes the name order is reversed. For example, in Valles Marineris, the geologic name comes first. Valles Marineris is a valley named after the Mariner spacecraft that first flew by Mars.
Anyone can submit a name for a specific feature on Mars! The group meets once each year to consider appropriate names. If you would like to suggest a name for a feature on Mars, send your suggestion to the U.S. Geological Survey, Branch of Astrogeology, Room 409, 2255 N. Gemini Drive, Flagstaff, AZ 86001.
Rules for Naming Martian Features
Large craters are named after deceased scientists who have contributed to the study of Mars.
Small craters are named for villages and towns of the world with populations less than 100,000.
Large valleys are named for the word used for Mars in various languages of the world.
Small valleys are named for classical or modern names of rivers.
All other features retain the names given by Schiaparelli or Antoniadi, another Italian astronomer.
Rules for Naming Craters
Naming rules exist for most features on planets, moons, and asteroids. The following are the regulations for craters:
http://chainreaction.asu.edu/solarsystem/digin/nam e.htm
In theory (I've had it working twice, but others have had problems) backing up the licenses (easy, tools / license management) and restoring to the same machine will work, as the machine ID comes from your hardware (like the windows activation code).
You mean Tools / License Management and then click the backup button? Where's the luck involved there, unless your ADD means you don't read menu options <g>
It depends on the rights the label granted. If you have the burn to CD right (and an appropriate count left), you can burn away. Then rip it back to what you want, including MP3 or non-DRM WMA if you want...
Thats more a limitation of the developer. It's perfectly easy to support multiple machines, simply prompt for membership details in the license acquisition page (been there, done that). Nothing in the MS DRM SDK stops this, lazy programmers or clueless business types do.
Actually buy.com is wrong, WM7 will play DRM 2.2 "protected" files, I've spent the last 1.5 years making them and supporting a system around them. I'd guess buy.com are trying to make their support life easier by limited it to the latest media player.
Last week I asked why. The cashier said it's because kids go in and steal them a lot, then come back the next day and ask for the money back (a pack of 8 is rather expensive, and they are easy to slip into pockets). So Waitrose watch the blades carefully and always check reciepts.
Bullshit. Perhaps you mean to say DRM is unbeneficial in its current form to consumers? Even then bullshit.
DRM has benefits right now, ask Apple, they seem to be making a few million dollar benefits out of a system which includes a form of DRM.
Want to stop users running as root or deleting your files on a shared system? That's a form of DRM, which has benefits?
Want to stop recruitment agencies chopping your CV into pieces, editing it around and submitting it for jobs for which you are unsuited and wasting your time? Produce your CV as a PDF which stops that. There's a benefit for you.
Want to produce a game for the PS/2, the XBox or any other console? Want to make sure that people buy it and you actually make some money from your effort? DRM again, woah, profit as a benefit? How unlike slashdot.
Just because something annoys you does not make it unbenefical to everyone, nor does making blanket statements of your political beliefs as fact provide any benefit to an arguement.
Actually IBM put BASICA in the ROM of the XTs, Microsoft put GWBasic in with DOS. Of course, we're all stuck using GWBasic now, as no language competitors exist.
Included primitive Games with windows
That's right, we're limited to playing solitare. Damn those linux gamers, with their fancy Wolfenstein 3D that Windows users don't have. Damn microsoft for limiting us to minesweeper.
Included Lan management software into the operating system, causing pain to 3com, Novell, and others.
Damn MS for including SNMP, because no other operating system does that.
Gave away the browser, causing serious financial strain to Netscape
Damn MS, for killing netscape. There's no other browser but for IE, errr, and Netscape, and Mozilla, and Opera .... Oh, and damn Netscape for killing Mosaic.
Bought Hotmail (free email), and gave away browser-based email.
Damn Microsoft, Yahoo can't produce webmail and give it away free now.
Included a bazillion features into the office suite, eliminating lots of specialized software applications.
Damn Microsoft for adding features, because all I really want from Office is notepad with a different title bar. Text formatting and tables aren't important to me. And damn those cheeky open office people for doing the same thing, but claiming Open is good.
Gave away SQL for small apps, in the form of MSDE.
Damn microsoft, now there are no other database engines out there. Except for Oracle, and a few free ones I read about somewhere. But the free ones are for commies anyway.
Microsoft has made a practice of eliminating competition by giving away software! Where have you been?
Great, so lets stop people giving away software. It's obviously bad. Mr Torvalds, to the dungeon with you. Begin the Minesweeper torture!
Microsoft did a bad job marketing .net. First it was web services, then came SQL.net and Windows.net. Even now article like the quoted eweek one talk about .net as it it's simply web services. Add to this the weenies that talk about passport as if it's the be all and end all of .net.
So what have they delivered for the developer? (what follows is my opinion, as someone who has used it and is still using it)
Well there's Visual Studio, an excellent IDE for those that use IDEs.
There's C#, VB.Net and an architecture that has allow Python.net, Perl.net, Fortran.net, Cobol.net and others. The multitude of languages comes into its own when you realise that objects written in one language are easily used in every other language, so you can have 1 developer using Perl, another using C#. Try that in Java. Try any cross language development in Java.
There's the .net framework, an nice OO library which is, of course, available to any .net language.
There's ASP.net which makes development of event driven sites a hell of a lot easier than embedded your own hidden frames and attaching page loads of those frames as javascript events trigger.
There's WinForms, yet another forms interface, but as it's usuable in any language there is no more bodged MFC.
Of course you do have web services, easy SOAP libraries, really nice XML support, remoting and other funky stuff.
Should MS give up? Hell no, they've produced a wonderful environment for developing for windows. Developing more than web services.
I don't think you can comment on .net unless you've used it. Journalists need not apply, nor should MS marketing people :)
Trying to get secure email has been a bugbear for me ever since my mail server started supporting secure IMAP and secure SMTP.
The hardware specifications are as follows:
Toshiba Tecra 9100, European, with built-in wireless (an orinocco under the hood)
One Netgear ME102 nice and simple mdaemon mail server (altn.com)
Outlook XP (so sue me)
A couple of revisions ago mdaemon started supporting SSL for IMAP and SMTP. Great, I thought, I'll enable that in Outlook and when I'm out and about on public APs I'll have secured email. Not that simple. On enabling the SSL support in Outlook the Toshiba would drop its wireless connection every time I checked for new mail. Take SSL support off, and it kept a steady connection. I asked a friend I know internally at MS if there were any known problems with SSLed IMAP over wireless. He came up a blank, checked it with the MS internal WLAN, and with his home WLAN, and it worked flawlessly for him.
So, as Netgear were the easiest people to contact, I sent a detailed email to their support group. Despite being promised a 24 hour turnaround by the auto responder, 1 month later, nothing.
Toshiba are impossible for the end user to contact, so that was a dead end.
Eventually I updated the Orinocco drivers, grabbing them from the manufacturer site (a risk, as you know how fussy laptop drivers can be, especially Toshiba), but the problem still arose.
So where does the problem lie? XP, Outlook? (Nope, that configuration works elsewhere). The Orinoco card? The Netgear? Who knows, there are too many variables.
Nothing, nada, I still get drop outs when using secure IMAP. It's generally overkill setting up a VPN at home, so I'm stuck with unsecure IMAP.
Way to go. Lets look at CNet's article. It states
set to unveil a joint effort to make sure that their products--from computers to DVD players to cell phone
Note this doesn't limit the communication to swapping between phones and DVDs as the article author seems to think. Note the slashdot article seems to leave out the computers part of the CNet article. Add that back in, and what do you have? A standard protocol for your home devices, computers, Pocket PCs, Palms, mobile phones, printers to swap files.
Lets now look at the example use given in the Cnet article
people would be able to play digital audio on their living-room stereo even though the music files themselves are stored on a computer in the den.
Sounds useful doesn't it? Does it sound like extending DRM? Probably note, especially as Microsoft and Sony each have their own DRM technologies.
The slashdot "article" justifies itself by pretending
The file can already be shared via wireless email or WiFi
Really? I don't know of a common mobile phone with WiFi, or a home stereo system, or a DVD. Strange, I don't have an email option on my stero.
I wish you could moderate slashdot parent articles, this one is either a Troll or Flamebait. Nice lack of checking even the CNet article Timothy.
Nice FUD. Did you even check?
From XP on two machines, 1 with USB 1.1, one with USB 2.0. Device Manager reports USB 1.1 as a standard USB Universal Host Controller. On the 2.0 machine it's labelled as USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller. I can tell the difference, can't you?
However it's the device driver that sets these strings, so a hardware manufacturer could, in theory deceptively label their devices. Then again, Microsoft isn't responsible for the acts of third parties.
Ugh, I should learn not to post while I'm waking up. You're quite right, apologies.
Yup, 3 Windows NTFS NAS machines, clustered, to feed windows and real streaming servers (running Windows 2k). About 800Tb on each NAS, but there's a limit on the logical drive size, which is a royal pain in the butt, you can't have a single 800Tb logical drive.
Simple, none of the *nix filesystems out there support the Windows security model. So, even if they based it on an open source file system, they would have to extend it to cope with the NT permissions model.
However, that would provide lots of scope for slashdot rantings about embrace and extend...
And what good is that? Apple is a GUI system. The GUI part of OS/X is NOT Open. The bits you want access to, to render text or graphics or make your application look pretty enough for Apple users are closed.
WARNING Reality/Political flame ahead.
Seems to me that what is reall going on is liberal 'fairness'. Think about it. You live in the EU and you can buy stuff online cheaper from the US then actually walking into a local store and buying it.
Gee that isn't 'fair'.
Seems fair to me.
If the US was such a bastion of free trade like you image, explain the protectionist steel tarrifs right now which stop US companies importing cheap steel from Europe?
The US has it's own protectionist policies, why can't the EU.
It's the same with Outlook and Hotmail
I mailed myself and the headers included
Received: from 212.135.194.83 by law8-oe51.law8.hotmail.com with DAV;Sun, 08 Jun 2003 09:35:43 +0000
When you have to use your all of savings to pay the bandwidth cost for the slashdotting of your personal web site ...
Thats my main problem with the 7650. Then there's the shitty battery life once you start keeping the screen backlight on, for example when you use WAP, or play games. 1 hour of playing snood on the train into work and I've gone from full battery to damn, I need to recharge now.
It's heavy, it crashes about once a week (so I have to yank the battery out), the syncing software doesn't play nicely with the BlueTooth stack on my Toshiba 9100. The syncing software itself is buggy and upgrades to it don't overwrite the old software so you end up with multiple startup items, which interfere with each other.
Come August I'm getting rid ot it, and I'm seriously looking at a SmartPhone.