I have. No need to sigh! But you can block port 80 entirely or you can filter protocol TCP on port 80. I believe they did the former, not the latter.
If you're talking about browser communication, none of the articles linked said they were using UDP and I wasn't familiar with RTP until I looked it up after you mentioned UDP. So yes, if they don't need a TCP listener on 80, yeah it could work if you're browsing as a privileged user or have [x|r]inetd set up to forward the connection.
I should clarify. I just meant that NAT-traversal will only work through a third party, even if you just wanted to direct-dial*. Of course, this is the most likely scenario anyway. Though, if you're a Syrian family member who wants to direct connect to a remote computer to a family member in another country, you may not want to go through a third party.
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*(Technically, you could poke a hole in your firewall and point it at your box, but then it's only your box, not your wife's, kid's, IPad, whatever...)
Until NAT is dead (long live IPv6) this thing is not going to be as big as it could be.
Secondly, with regard to port 80, I recall when RoadRunner (TimeWarner Cable) shut off all inbound traffic to port 80 for its residential network. It started when the Code Red virus was making the rounds. Supposedly it was temporary, but if you called to complain, they'd recommend you upgrade to "business class" which was (and is) a ton more expensive.
A friend says they eventually lifted the block but I have never forgiven them.
All I'm saying is: let's not pin our hopes and dreams on the most managed port in the world.
$0.02USD, -l
/Seriously doubt they'd use port 80 anyway as your local webserver would be listening on that port. //You don't have a local webserver on your machine?:)
His criticism makes more sense if you understand that "fittest" is intended for a species, not an individual. This is, for example, almost certainly why homosexuality exists as a frequent phenotype. It helps the *species* out, even if it's not particularly fit for the individual (i.e., can't reproduce). Having more caregivers in a social species gives the species an edge as long as the non-reproducing members don't take away too many scare resources from the reproducing ones.
If you look at the erstwhile libertarian ideas of today, they lead directly to aristocracy, corporatism, and plutocracy. So, I would say "L" is not a valid option either.
Indeed. The planny bits end up on systems called ODS and EDW, Operational Data Store and Enterprise Data Warehouse, respectively. These are useless without good reporting tools to supplement them. In higher education, IBM Cognos and Evisions Argos are two biggies.
Other than that, I bet Excel, Word, and email are about the most important planning software in the world for all businesses.
like vinyl vs CD, people will adapt and wonder how they lived without it looking back in retrospect... it called progress and we all need to adapt (me included!)
I think most other educational systems recognize that not all students are university-bound and attempt to focus those students elsewhere. The American system forces all students into college prep. This does make a little sense because earnings with a degree far, far outpace earnings without.
However, the reality is that many of those kids will end up in positions not really requiring a degree (admin asst, service staff, low-level medical service, etc.). If they did go to college, it will take a very, very long time to pay off the debt (to creditors and/or to society).
It would make more sense to target those students early. E.g., you don't really need 4 years of high school English, social studies, etc. to draw blood, give pills, and move patients at a nursing home. Put interested 15/16-year olds into a low-level medical service track. Or hospitality. Or mechanic school. Or electrician school. Or whatever.
Our local school district does this with electives, but they are all career tracks that require university education. I think that's short-sighted and short-changes the bottom quintile.
Jack Donaghy
Vice President of East Coast Television and Microwave Oven Programming
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So long as it's less than 6 seconds of password, right? :)
Thanks for posting. I LOL'd.
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I have. No need to sigh! But you can block port 80 entirely or you can filter protocol TCP on port 80. I believe they did the former, not the latter.
If you're talking about browser communication, none of the articles linked said they were using UDP and I wasn't familiar with RTP until I looked it up after you mentioned UDP. So yes, if they don't need a TCP listener on 80, yeah it could work if you're browsing as a privileged user or have [x|r]inetd set up to forward the connection.
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I should clarify. I just meant that NAT-traversal will only work through a third party, even if you just wanted to direct-dial*. Of course, this is the most likely scenario anyway. Though, if you're a Syrian family member who wants to direct connect to a remote computer to a family member in another
country, you may not want to go through a third party.
-l
*(Technically, you could poke a hole in your firewall and point it at your box, but then it's only your box, not your wife's, kid's, IPad, whatever...)
Until NAT is dead (long live IPv6) this thing is not going to be as big as it could be.
Secondly, with regard to port 80, I recall when RoadRunner (TimeWarner Cable) shut off all inbound traffic to port 80 for its residential network. It started when the Code Red virus was making the rounds. Supposedly it was temporary, but if you called to complain, they'd recommend you upgrade to "business class" which was (and is) a ton more expensive.
A friend says they eventually lifted the block but I have never forgiven them.
All I'm saying is: let's not pin our hopes and dreams on the most managed port in the world.
$0.02USD,
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/Seriously doubt they'd use port 80 anyway as your local webserver would be listening on that port. :)
//You don't have a local webserver on your machine?
Thanks. I was also thinking of the time he quit TTY development... thankless job that it is.
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Well, they have been expanding in the services realm. Qwest, MessageOne, etc. It's all part of their IBM-ization.
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Here's your official counterexample: Brainfuck.
It's the exception that proves the rule, right? :)
Cheers,
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Ha! Thanks. The letter c appears to be getting scare.
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Heh, they should just route a garden hose from Venus to Mars to transfer the atmosphere...
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His criticism makes more sense if you understand that "fittest" is intended for a species, not an individual. This is, for example, almost certainly why homosexuality exists as a frequent phenotype. It helps the *species* out, even if it's not particularly fit for the individual (i.e., can't reproduce). Having more caregivers in a social species gives the species an edge as long as the non-reproducing members don't take away too many scare resources from the reproducing ones.
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Nah, but 64-bit gets work done twice as fast as 32-bit! Didn't you know? ;)
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If you look at the erstwhile libertarian ideas of today, they lead directly to aristocracy, corporatism, and plutocracy. So, I would say "L" is not a valid option either.
$0.02USD,
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Indeed. The planny bits end up on systems called ODS and EDW, Operational Data Store and Enterprise Data Warehouse, respectively. These are useless without good reporting tools to supplement them. In higher education, IBM Cognos and Evisions Argos are two biggies.
Other than that, I bet Excel, Word, and email are about the most important planning software in the world for all businesses.
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I've seen you post in random threads over the years, including in some recent ones.
Why do you still visit (and comment on) Slashdot after all these years?
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Tinky Winky: I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I choose Dos Equis.
/the most interesting toddler space alien in the galaxy
Hrm, and here I was thinking it was a marketing strategy for getting your post seen. Controversy first, then the message.
Perhaps for April Fools Day 2013, Slashdot should have a mod that prepends the phrase to every post.
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I would like to note that it is available on Netflix!
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Bulk popcorn + paper bag + microwave = done deal.
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like vinyl vs CD, people will adapt and wonder how they lived without it looking back in retrospect ... it called progress and we all need to adapt (me included!)
Or clamor for tape hiss. [shudder]
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How about an entire flight simulator easter egg?
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I think most other educational systems recognize that not all students are university-bound and attempt to focus those students elsewhere. The American system forces all students into college prep. This does make a little sense because earnings with a degree far, far outpace earnings without.
However, the reality is that many of those kids will end up in positions not really requiring a degree (admin asst, service staff, low-level medical service, etc.). If they did go to college, it will take a very, very long time to pay off the debt (to creditors and/or to society).
It would make more sense to target those students early. E.g., you don't really need 4 years of high school English, social studies, etc. to draw blood, give pills, and move patients at a nursing home. Put interested 15/16-year olds into a low-level medical service track. Or hospitality. Or mechanic school. Or electrician school. Or whatever.
Our local school district does this with electives, but they are all career tracks that require university education. I think that's short-sighted and short-changes the bottom quintile.
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OK, I'll bite. WTH could you possibly do for work that requires this? :)
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Goes well with your handle, too, CreatureComfort!
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Or maybe it was the Chinese synchronized divers. I don't remember, but whoever it was, was repeatedly snubbed.
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