there's no "sneaking" to it. Perl is not an arm of Christianity. I guess you've never read any of Larry's speeches? read the old Camel book (circa 1992)? He uses examples straight from biblical text. Also, the idea of Larry's Apocalypses and Damien's subsequent Exegeses is gleaned straight from his study of religious texts. Here's a direct quote:
The funny thing is, [cultural relativism's] almost right. It's very close to what I do, in fact, believe. I'd go so far as to call myself a strong postmodernist. Strong postmodernism says that all truth is created. But this really isn't a problem for anyone who believes in a Creator. All truths are created relative, but some are more relative than others. A universal truth only has to be true about our particular universe, so to speak. It doesn't much matter whether the universe itself is true or false, just as long as it makes a good story. And I think our universe does make a good story. I happen to like the Author.
--Larry Wall: Perl, the first postmodern computer language, LinuxWorld Spring 1999 http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html
Now, whether you accept that Jesus Christ is the greatest of all cosmic artists, or merely a very good B.S. artist, you have to admit that it really puts an interesting spin on theology to view God as an artist. Permit me to state the obvious and point out that I view my relationship to the Perl community the same way. This is why I sometimes behave as your revered prophet and cult leader. It's also why I explicitly reject that role periodically. As the artist in charge of Perl Culture, I reserve the right to choose where to exercise control, and where not to. Sometimes I preach love and harmony, and other times I preach nature red in tooth and claw.
--Larry Wall, 1st State of the Onion, 1997 Perl Conference http://www.wall.org/~larry/keynote/keynote.html
It means that Lang made a movie that was complex compared to silly morality plays... you know, plays/films meant to "teach a lesson". Not that Lang doesn't have any themes -- far from it. He just refuses to tell a trite, formulaic story to get his point[s] across.
Speaking of Perl, it's sort of like Larry Wall's postmodern Christianity thing. He doesn't beat Perl coders over the head with Bibles or nothing, but certainly elements of his religion visibly influence his work.
Incidently, Sybase has undocumented support for this format... I tend to use / instead of - for dates on my checks, but still -- same idea. Also, have some little programs that take dates as arguments in YYYYMMDD format... also supplements nicely with: YYYYMMDDHHmmSS
right... here in Austin, most of the DSL ISP/resellers have gone out of business because SWBell charged an arm and a leg to them for their service. BUT interestingly, _not_ DirecTV. Which makes me think that SWBell is giving them a deal so they can together compete with Time Warner (satellite + phone + DSL vs. cable + cablemodem).
man, your post made my day. Story of my experience with Time Warner Austin... GAH!
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p.s. we switched to DirecTV DSL so I could get port 80 back and not hide my services. TWTC told me over the phone that running a game that listened on a port constituted infringement, too, even though it probably would not be enforced!!
The address book is in their contacts folder in the Exchange server
Egad! You want me to buy Exchange just so I don't have to remember 25 some-odd personal email addy's at home?! Oh wait, you didn't realize that there are a number of mailers that support LDAP for such information. Sure, I can't access LDAP from the commandline 'mail' program when I'm ssh'ing into my box at work to copy/paste some code to work on at home. One of these days we'll have IMAP set up here which I can use under umpteen different Unix mailers, most of which have the aforementioned LDAP support.
Linux can't deal properly with my printer, sound card and scanner... nvidia drivers
that's a pretty broad statement. most proprietary, binary-only drivers are difficult to make work with Linux. I mean come on, it's a basic violation of the openness philosophy. I'm dumping my old Nvidia TNT1 for Radeon cause I know Nvidia could care less about my old K6-3 on VIA chipset (I'm seriously tired of the lockups). Since the Radeon drivers are open source I can report the bugs and chances are, they'll be fixed. Furthermore, they _come_ with X. I don't have to dig around in some website and download them from some untrusted source. Instead, it's integrated in my O/S upgrade utilities.
which brings up another point: Why the FUCK are there so many ways to install software on Windows? With my O/S, most software is available through one source using one packaging system that works consistently and thoroughly. Whether I want to get the free Microsoft TTF fonts or a security update for Apache or armagetron or the Flash plugin or a new kernel, it all works through the same, consistent, stable interface.
While I have the option of compiling, installing a tarball, whatever, I rarely need to with over 10,000 precompiled packages at my disposal.
I find Windows Update once a week much more convenient (and intuitive) than recompiling things frequently.
weekly? I upgrade every day.
In Linux, I have KDE installed, but some apps need Gnome... wtf?
In Windows I have Word installed, but I need Acrobat Reader to read PDF... wtf? Before you cry "foul" note that Adobe products among others typically have vastly different GUIs anyway. It's no different than installing various families of products under Windows.
lack of easy Flash installation
Really...? My package manager says it's installed just fine.
Regarding scanners and PDAs, I've never used them so I don't know. I'm sorry to hear about the soundcard but after ALSA is integrated (kernel 2.6), most of these problems should be a thing of the past unless you use some proprietary driver POS. At work, I have an Aureal and had to dig up their crap drivers to get it to work.
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who has to call UPS and bitch their asses out now.
I did google for those. I also bothered to read the project statuses for each one. PostgreSQL-R critically lacks:
support for replicated DDL
support for version 7.2.x
Whether they support a Master-Master configuration or not (which, you'll note, is not even mentioned on the site), it's not near finished enough to compete with Sybase et al. in this particular, but important area.
Recently they've discovered Social Security benefits and cheap prescription drugs -- hedging their greyed future on the backs of their children. Sickening, really. I love my parents and I'm going to care for them, but I'd rather not fork out cash for a bunch of lazy slobs and Congressional pork.
We didn't so much invent Mathematics as we discovered it.
That's your belief.
Math works because it describes the Universe.
No, math works because it is intended to model the universe just like a spoon feeds your mouth because that's what it was designed to do or a compiler compiles code or English assists communication or...
Mathematics is a developing language used to roughly model some aspects of observed behavior in the universe. Math isn't what the universe does --- math is a tool through which we understand a collection of observations about the universe.
Yeah, I know a lot of people who think that way. While I'll grant that we invented math as an useful abstraction roughly approximating how one aspect of the universe works, the abstraction is still not the universe. As in any abstraction, detailed content is lost in the hopes of formalization. Unfortunately, such detail is algorithmically necessary for being the universe... it's not just a matter of setting a few constants and pressing "enter" in the math box.
You can sell GPL'd software -- FSF did it for years. It's all smoke and mirrors. They can't sue you if you install all the libre bits on 20 different machines. However, if you use their proprietary installer (or whathaveyou), they can sue you for that.
Huh, I've never had Evolution corrupt my mbox unalterably or keep me from ssh'ing into the box and grepping some text out that I needed from elsewhere. I do this fairly regularly and I get a decent amount of mail. An old alpha version of Evolution _did_ crash on me while trying to import some crappy Netscape mail, but they fixed that bug.
If libcamel really corrupted your mbox files, you need to file a bug.
Slashdot Mirror
there's no "sneaking" to it. Perl is not an arm of Christianity. I guess you've never read any of Larry's speeches? read the old Camel book (circa 1992)? He uses examples straight from biblical text. Also, the idea of Larry's Apocalypses and Damien's subsequent Exegeses is gleaned straight from his study of religious texts. Here's a direct quote:
--Larry Wall: Perl, the first postmodern computer language, LinuxWorld Spring 1999http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html --Larry Wall, 1st State of the Onion, 1997 Perl Conference
http://www.wall.org/~larry/keynote/keynote.html
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Right... there's something like 200 lines of dialogue in the whole film. It's what Kubrick was best at, post-Dr.Strangelove: imagery.
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It means that Lang made a movie that was complex compared to silly morality plays... you know, plays/films meant to "teach a lesson". Not that Lang doesn't have any themes -- far from it. He just refuses to tell a trite, formulaic story to get his point[s] across.
Speaking of Perl, it's sort of like Larry Wall's postmodern Christianity thing. He doesn't beat Perl coders over the head with Bibles or nothing, but certainly elements of his religion visibly influence his work.
$0.02USD,
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Worries you? Why? What does seeing a film have to do with building and riding a rocket?
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Incidently, Sybase has undocumented support for this format... I tend to use / instead of - for dates on my checks, but still -- same idea. Also, have some little programs that take dates as arguments in YYYYMMDD format... also supplements nicely with: YYYYMMDDHHmmSS
tired,
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186,000
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as an Austinite, it's my duty to profess the truth: Round Rock donuts are better.
And now, back to your regularly scheduled surfing...
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Slashdot lite
Wouldn't that present a namespace conflict with the current Slashdot 'lite' mode?
eh...
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Because they want to use the VPN usage to justify charging you for "business class service" whatever the hell that means.
:)
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p.s.- not that their argument is in any way, shape, or form logical.
right... here in Austin, most of the DSL ISP/resellers have gone out of business because SWBell charged an arm and a leg to them for their service. BUT interestingly, _not_ DirecTV. Which makes me think that SWBell is giving them a deal so they can together compete with Time Warner (satellite + phone + DSL vs. cable + cablemodem).
???
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man, your post made my day. Story of my experience with Time Warner Austin... GAH!
-l
p.s. we switched to DirecTV DSL so I could get port 80 back and not hide my services. TWTC told me over the phone that running a game that listened on a port constituted infringement, too, even though it probably would not be enforced!!
The address book is in their contacts folder in the Exchange server
Egad! You want me to buy Exchange just so I don't have to remember 25 some-odd personal email addy's at home?! Oh wait, you didn't realize that there are a number of mailers that support LDAP for such information. Sure, I can't access LDAP from the commandline 'mail' program when I'm ssh'ing into my box at work to copy/paste some code to work on at home. One of these days we'll have IMAP set up here which I can use under umpteen different Unix mailers, most of which have the aforementioned LDAP support.
Linux can't deal properly with my printer, sound card and scanner ... nvidia drivers
that's a pretty broad statement. most proprietary, binary-only drivers are difficult to make work with Linux. I mean come on, it's a basic violation of the openness philosophy. I'm dumping my old Nvidia TNT1 for Radeon cause I know Nvidia could care less about my old K6-3 on VIA chipset (I'm seriously tired of the lockups). Since the Radeon drivers are open source I can report the bugs and chances are, they'll be fixed. Furthermore, they _come_ with X. I don't have to dig around in some website and download them from some untrusted source. Instead, it's integrated in my O/S upgrade utilities.
which brings up another point: Why the FUCK are there so many ways to install software on Windows? With my O/S, most software is available through one source using one packaging system that works consistently and thoroughly. Whether I want to get the free Microsoft TTF fonts or a security update for Apache or armagetron or the Flash plugin or a new kernel, it all works through the same, consistent, stable interface.
While I have the option of compiling, installing a tarball, whatever, I rarely need to with over 10,000 precompiled packages at my disposal.
I find Windows Update once a week much more convenient (and intuitive) than recompiling things frequently.
weekly? I upgrade every day.
In Linux, I have KDE installed, but some apps need Gnome... wtf?
In Windows I have Word installed, but I need Acrobat Reader to read PDF... wtf? Before you cry "foul" note that Adobe products among others typically have vastly different GUIs anyway. It's no different than installing various families of products under Windows.
lack of easy Flash installation
Really...? My package manager says it's installed just fine.
Regarding scanners and PDAs, I've never used them so I don't know. I'm sorry to hear about the soundcard but after ALSA is integrated (kernel 2.6), most of these problems should be a thing of the past unless you use some proprietary driver POS. At work, I have an Aureal and had to dig up their crap drivers to get it to work.
-l
who has to call UPS and bitch their asses out now.
Hands off the KB!
that's awesome
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I did google for those. I also bothered to read the project statuses for each one. PostgreSQL-R critically lacks:
Whether they support a Master-Master configuration or not (which, you'll note, is not even mentioned on the site), it's not near finished enough to compete with Sybase et al. in this particular, but important area.
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you mean like:s tg reSQL/Replication/g /oresources.php#repl ication
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Databases/Po
http://techdocs.postgresql.or
None of these appear to have Master-Master replication support.
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Recently they've discovered Social Security benefits and cheap prescription drugs -- hedging their greyed future on the backs of their children. Sickening, really. I love my parents and I'm going to care for them, but I'd rather not fork out cash for a bunch of lazy slobs and Congressional pork.
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so he could irradiate all those little brats? :)
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We didn't so much invent Mathematics as we discovered it.
That's your belief.
Math works because it describes the Universe.
No, math works because it is intended to model the universe just like a spoon feeds your mouth because that's what it was designed to do or a compiler compiles code or English assists communication or ...
Mathematics is a developing language used to roughly model some aspects of observed behavior in the universe. Math isn't what the universe does --- math is a tool through which we understand a collection of observations about the universe.
Do not confuse the microscope with the microbes.
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Yeah, I know a lot of people who think that way. While I'll grant that we invented math as an useful abstraction roughly approximating how one aspect of the universe works, the abstraction is still not the universe. As in any abstraction, detailed content is lost in the hopes of formalization. Unfortunately, such detail is algorithmically necessary for being the universe... it's not just a matter of setting a few constants and pressing "enter" in the math box.
Math is not a natural science.
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Zeno's Paradox is proof that math doesn't have anything to do with the universe.
Yeah, they found the instructions on slashdot.
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Yeah... some of us are idiots and have to learn the hard way, though.
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(who plugged a vacuum cleaner into a surge protector once. oops.)
Huh, I've never had Evolution corrupt my mbox unalterably or keep me from ssh'ing into the box and grepping some text out that I needed from elsewhere. I do this fairly regularly and I get a decent amount of mail. An old alpha version of Evolution _did_ crash on me while trying to import some crappy Netscape mail, but they fixed that bug.
If libcamel really corrupted your mbox files, you need to file a bug.
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Of course, if life is actually found there, the chances of them sending a manned mission anytime soon are zero. :/
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