I didn't buy any hype. I came up with that justification on my own since I don't buy the poor small-time farmer argument. The US probably pays farmers to kill more corn than necessary to feed the entire population... but I don't have numbers to back up that assertion.:-) My point is that while many fundamental industries (textiles, manufacturing, etc.) can and will move largely overseas where manual labor is cheaper, some of those industries are requisite for any serious long-term defense plan.
No, they don't need handholding. Frankly, many of these farmers are terrible businessmen, sold on the old rustic ideal of the independent farmer. There needs to be a lot more consolidation across the industry. Farming collectives are nice, but they don't quite get there in terms of ROI. Farming must ultimately succumb to market forces, just like anything else. However, that doesn't change the fact that we need to keep enough farming local... and today, I don't know how much that is.
Lastly, too much consolidation is a poor defense plan too. If all our food is grown in just Iowa or something, a few nukes could take out the entire supply. There just need to be some checks and balances.
Normally, I'm against economic supports and for sending manual labor overseas, but farming is essential to national defense. Of course, small-time farming isn't... I'm just saying I understand a reasonable amount of leeway.
Since corporations don't die naturally, poster wants to reinforce the expiration in other terms than years. My interpretation works thusly:
A copyright lasts so long as any individual who contributed to the work still lives. So, e.g., as long as one of Mickey's designers lives, the copyright remains in force. While a corporation can hold a copyright on behalf of the collective of individual contributors (essentially making it the owner), the true owners remain the contributors. Their deaths expire the copyright, period. Go go gadget Constitutional Amendment!
This still allows for the buying and selling of copyrights between _holders_, but also restricts the terms to something reasonable and not dependent on the whim of Congress, i.e., the lives of the _artists_.
Out of all the myriad articles I've read or listened to on Palestinian opinion, none has ever mentioned a Palestinian that wanted to be a citizen of Israel (in the parlance, a strict Right of Return to the land only). Now that could be a reflection on the articles I've read or on Palestinian opinion. Since I only have what I've read/heard to work with, I implicitly go on the assumption that the articles haven't sucked. Fine.
As far as the Israeli government being the problem, I'd like to see you deal with an organization and its allies that all deny your state's right to exist as a nation. Since Oslo, that provision has been abolished from the PLO constitution, but it sure puts years 1967 - 1994 into perspective.
The Knesset could be a problem in some sense. In fact, I'm sure a totalitarian dictator could get what she wanted pretty quickly and easily. But of course you lose that great quality of representation that the Knesset has. I doubt the US or British systems would have done substantially better if put in a similar situation. In any case, all democratic values are put to the test when life and limb are at risk.
Palestinians aren't citizens. They don't want to be citizens of Israel -- that'd kind of obviate their claim for their own nation, government, etc. don't you think?:)
I think it's great the Left and Right can't just go out and do whatever. Gridlock is a feature of working government, not a bug. It shows that "no, we can't satisfy everyone so instead of going with Plan A anyway, we won't do much if anything". Gridlock is of course stronger than what actually happens in the Knesset, but you get the idea: Minority opinion has a real role.
Israel embraces minority opinion through coalitions. The US suppresses minority opinion through majoritarianism in the extreme. What can I say? I'm a die hard proportional government fan.
For the most part, I agree, but I think Israel's Knesset is better. *gasp* Israel? Well aside from the Palestinians, internally, I think their coalition government system does a better job at gaining consensus from ALL perspectives since it is so freaking easy to start your own political party. In the US system, it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to support a non-dominant party since the system is set up for 2 parties. Consequently, the US government has much less diversity of opinion than it could have.
Now, some people hate the Knesset cause it's so damn slow to get anything done. This, again, is because of the coalition system and you have to get enough votes from a lot of varied interests to support your bill. Personally, I think this is a virtue in government -- less opportunity for capture by entrenched interests, more opportunity for diversity of support and consensus.
I'm not talking about Godel. All Godel showed is that in basing math on logic, you have to choose completeness or soundness. Can't have your cake and eat it, too, so to speak. I'm not talking about that.
I'm saying math is a language. Its linguistic goals are:
Communication. Communicating sets and properties is a useful thing for people.
Coherency. Math needs to be sound, systematically sound, to be useful. However, as a closed system, it inheres insularity and non-falsifiability.
Descriptiveness. To be useful to people and science, math needs to describe the universe. If it doesn't, it's just a clever, coherent fiction.
So, when you say "well it doesn't matter what the universe does, math will always be true". Joe Alien replies "well, I'm happy that your fiction is coherent, but the problem is my universe doesn't fit your fiction. How about a language that does fit my universe?"
And you see why I say it belongs in the philosophy department. "true in and of itself" doesn't get you any further than "Luke Skywalker is from Tatooine".
I always liked empiricism. One of my favorite results is that math is unprovable since in general it's not testable. So, any results based on math alone are not science. Then again, I am one of those wackos who thinks the math department belongs as a subdiscipline of the philosophy department, not natural sciences.;)
right. If I didn't run services off of my computer as part of a learning process, I wouldn't keep it on. But I can't afford hosting at this point, so I keep it on. And no, using my ISP's http://www.foo.reallylong.url.com/users/~username/ is not acceptable!:-)
If you're in the mood to groan, check out Mac & Me, a really lame ET knock-off. My favorite part is when the wheelchair kid falls off a cliff into a lake.
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Or better drivers. Myself, I'm pretty pissed off at the proprietary Nvidia drivers for Linux. I want to get a newer video card (TNT1 right now) but I don't have the cash. Anyway, the point of this comment is that shitty drivers can lock up Linux just as much as anything else. Yes, I mean *hard lock*! No ssh! No nothing!
I deleted mine as well, but made sure to change my info before deletion since deletion can "take up to 90 days" and I only have 60 days.:-)
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What would a manned mission to Mars give us? Well, some kewl tech, quite a lot of resources into research, and probably also a positive long-term effect following from the increased attention given to science.
But it is not likely to be of fundamental importance to our world-view. It is not likely to do anything to give us understanding that is going to be used in that kind of technology you can't even imagine today.
From a philosophical perspective, sending people to Mars probably would change our long-term philosophies, if not so much our every day philosophies of life. Sending people to Mars is part of acclimating the human race to the idea that Earth may not be here forever and we have to make preparations for expanding our eggs to the next basket. No, not everyone has the luxury to consider, plan, and fund these matters that will never change. However, it is still something that needs to be done if we want to be around longer than another millennium or so.
3) Messing with your FAFSA (and thereby awards & grants) due to #1.
At the time, in 1996/1997, the FAFSA language read something like "If your parents can claim you, check here". They didn't care whether or not I was/would be actually claimed. They didn't care whether or not I was claimed the year before!
Check this: I had one year of independence because I was married at the time, but next year I was divorced (long story. email me if you want it.), and since I was divorced, I went back to being claimable and lost my FAFSA-based grants.
Anyway, after enough whining, mom convinced dad to pick up the cost of the loans for that year and now work is paying for my state college tuition. woot.
If you're under 25 and single, you can be claimed by your parents if you go to college even if you don't live with them and they don't pay a dime for college, rent, bills, etc.
That, my friend, is a real pain. Been there, done that, got teensy refund, and crappy FAFSA review. Just b/c mom & dad make a combined 100k doesn't mean they're giving any of it to me, dammit.
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Yeah, they might use some of that commie Linux software! 8)
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I didn't buy any hype. I came up with that justification on my own since I don't buy the poor small-time farmer argument. The US probably pays farmers to kill more corn than necessary to feed the entire population... but I don't have numbers to back up that assertion. :-) My point is that while many fundamental industries (textiles, manufacturing, etc.) can and will move largely overseas where manual labor is cheaper, some of those industries are requisite for any serious long-term defense plan.
No, they don't need handholding. Frankly, many of these farmers are terrible businessmen, sold on the old rustic ideal of the independent farmer. There needs to be a lot more consolidation across the industry. Farming collectives are nice, but they don't quite get there in terms of ROI. Farming must ultimately succumb to market forces, just like anything else. However, that doesn't change the fact that we need to keep enough farming local... and today, I don't know how much that is.
Lastly, too much consolidation is a poor defense plan too. If all our food is grown in just Iowa or something, a few nukes could take out the entire supply. There just need to be some checks and balances.
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Normally, I'm against economic supports and for sending manual labor overseas, but farming is essential to national defense. Of course, small-time farming isn't... I'm just saying I understand a reasonable amount of leeway.
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You should try it in Dvorak. :)
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...which is why there is the other provision of a specific year-based term. I like having multiple criteria in my WHERE clauses, don't you? :^)
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Since corporations don't die naturally, poster wants to reinforce the expiration in other terms than years. My interpretation works thusly:
A copyright lasts so long as any individual who contributed to the work still lives. So, e.g., as long as one of Mickey's designers lives, the copyright remains in force. While a corporation can hold a copyright on behalf of the collective of individual contributors (essentially making it the owner), the true owners remain the contributors. Their deaths expire the copyright, period. Go go gadget Constitutional Amendment!
This still allows for the buying and selling of copyrights between _holders_, but also restricts the terms to something reasonable and not dependent on the whim of Congress, i.e., the lives of the _artists_.
$0.02USD,
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with the microscope turned off, we're all "deaf dumb blind kid[s]"... but _Who_ can play "a mean pinball"?
Puns you say?!
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Marvin: "I've seen it --- it's rubbish."
Out of all the myriad articles I've read or listened to on Palestinian opinion, none has ever mentioned a Palestinian that wanted to be a citizen of Israel (in the parlance, a strict Right of Return to the land only). Now that could be a reflection on the articles I've read or on Palestinian opinion. Since I only have what I've read/heard to work with, I implicitly go on the assumption that the articles haven't sucked. Fine.
As far as the Israeli government being the problem, I'd like to see you deal with an organization and its allies that all deny your state's right to exist as a nation. Since Oslo, that provision has been abolished from the PLO constitution, but it sure puts years 1967 - 1994 into perspective.
The Knesset could be a problem in some sense. In fact, I'm sure a totalitarian dictator could get what she wanted pretty quickly and easily. But of course you lose that great quality of representation that the Knesset has. I doubt the US or British systems would have done substantially better if put in a similar situation. In any case, all democratic values are put to the test when life and limb are at risk.
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Palestinians aren't citizens. They don't want to be citizens of Israel -- that'd kind of obviate their claim for their own nation, government, etc. don't you think? :)
I think it's great the Left and Right can't just go out and do whatever. Gridlock is a feature of working government, not a bug. It shows that "no, we can't satisfy everyone so instead of going with Plan A anyway, we won't do much if anything". Gridlock is of course stronger than what actually happens in the Knesset, but you get the idea: Minority opinion has a real role.
Israel embraces minority opinion through coalitions. The US suppresses minority opinion through majoritarianism in the extreme. What can I say? I'm a die hard proportional government fan.
Cheers,
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For the most part, I agree, but I think Israel's Knesset is better. *gasp* Israel? Well aside from the Palestinians, internally, I think their coalition government system does a better job at gaining consensus from ALL perspectives since it is so freaking easy to start your own political party. In the US system, it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to support a non-dominant party since the system is set up for 2 parties. Consequently, the US government has much less diversity of opinion than it could have.
Now, some people hate the Knesset cause it's so damn slow to get anything done. This, again, is because of the coalition system and you have to get enough votes from a lot of varied interests to support your bill. Personally, I think this is a virtue in government -- less opportunity for capture by entrenched interests, more opportunity for diversity of support and consensus.
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I'm not talking about Godel. All Godel showed is that in basing math on logic, you have to choose completeness or soundness. Can't have your cake and eat it, too, so to speak. I'm not talking about that.
I'm saying math is a language. Its linguistic goals are:
So, when you say "well it doesn't matter what the universe does, math will always be true". Joe Alien replies "well, I'm happy that your fiction is coherent, but the problem is my universe doesn't fit your fiction. How about a language that does fit my universe?"
And you see why I say it belongs in the philosophy department. "true in and of itself" doesn't get you any further than "Luke Skywalker is from Tatooine".
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I always liked empiricism. One of my favorite results is that math is unprovable since in general it's not testable. So, any results based on math alone are not science. Then again, I am one of those wackos who thinks the math department belongs as a subdiscipline of the philosophy department, not natural sciences. ;)
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Having seen the egyptological treatment in The Real Scorpion King on the History Channel, I'm totally gonna see that movie.
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right. If I didn't run services off of my computer as part of a learning process, I wouldn't keep it on. But I can't afford hosting at this point, so I keep it on. And no, using my ISP's http://www.foo.reallylong.url.com/users/~username/ :-)
is not acceptable!
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well, the SETI people may be fronting 500k but how much are we volunteers paying in electricity? :-)
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Or better drivers. Myself, I'm pretty pissed off at the proprietary Nvidia drivers for Linux. I want to get a newer video card (TNT1 right now) but I don't have the cash. Anyway, the point of this comment is that shitty drivers can lock up Linux just as much as anything else. Yes, I mean *hard lock*! No ssh! No nothing!
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Who is saving up for a Radeon, he thinks.
But, if you send him the message once with your return address, he'll know you're for real and when he replies you can use your regular mailer.
$0.02USD,
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I deleted mine as well, but made sure to change my info before deletion since deletion can "take up to 90 days" and I only have 60 days. :-)
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From a philosophical perspective, sending people to Mars probably would change our long-term philosophies, if not so much our every day philosophies of life. Sending people to Mars is part of acclimating the human race to the idea that Earth may not be here forever and we have to make preparations for expanding our eggs to the next basket. No, not everyone has the luxury to consider, plan, and fund these matters that will never change. However, it is still something that needs to be done if we want to be around longer than another millennium or so.
$0.02USD
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Sure sure... "privacy", but I don't want my letter to Congress to be private. :-)
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3) Messing with your FAFSA (and thereby awards & grants) due to #1.
At the time, in 1996/1997, the FAFSA language read something like "If your parents can claim you, check here". They didn't care whether or not I was/would be actually claimed. They didn't care whether or not I was claimed the year before!
Check this: I had one year of independence because I was married at the time, but next year I was divorced (long story. email me if you want it.), and since I was divorced, I went back to being claimable and lost my FAFSA-based grants.
Anyway, after enough whining, mom convinced dad to pick up the cost of the loans for that year and now work is paying for my state college tuition. woot.
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If you're under 25 and single, you can be claimed by your parents if you go to college even if you don't live with them and they don't pay a dime for college, rent, bills, etc.
That, my friend, is a real pain. Been there, done that, got teensy refund, and crappy FAFSA review. Just b/c mom & dad make a combined 100k doesn't mean they're giving any of it to me, dammit.
a little bitter,
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Also, see Dorothy Sayers' "The Lost Tools of Learning".
http://www.trinityschoolnc.org/sayers.htm
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