Perl or similar launguage scripts that get run to parse the old file, and copy out customized settings...and reslove changes, deprecations, and additions that have occured.
And Perl is supposed to know exactly what the format and options are for each config file, what's changed, what's legal and illegal now, what the default settings are, how the various options interact with each other, and what the systems administrator intended to do with them?
Copying a copyrighted work without permission from the copyright owner is illegal. Period.
NO, IT MOST CERTAINLY IS _NOT_.
I regularly take CD's I have at home, and make mixes to play in my car (as I have 400+ CDs, and my car CD player only holds 4.)
The CDs are copyrighted works. I do not have permission of the copyright holder to make the mix CDs.
IT IS MOST DEFINITELY _NOT_ ILLEGAL FOR ME TO DO THIS, as it's covered under FAIR USE.
The *only* caveat that comes into play is with regards to geography, since people in one country are not typically subject to the laws of another.
If this is true, then how can fair use exist? How can someone in California legally copy a newspaper article from a California newspaper, and not be infringing copyright?
There are many instances were it's not illegal to make a copy of a copyrighted work without the owner's permission.
But aren't most of the programs identified part of most distributions' standard ISO image
No. You listed 8 notices. "Most" means at least 5 of them must be present - there are 2 apps there that would be included as part of a standard distro.
which in most cases get installed by default?
No. Unzip may be installed as part of standard system utilities in most distros, but the rest of them (including NFS) won't get installed "by default". You have to explicitly install it. It may come on the CD, but it doesn't get installed unless you want it there.
Please take your troll somewhere else. If you're going to attempt to do this, you should at least learn a LITTLE about Linux - otherwise you just look like a moron.
You have a pretty strange definition of "reasonable".
Hmm, let's play the Sesame Street game:
Kidnapping. Rape. Assault with a deadly weapon. Grand theft auto. Uploading a file on a P2P network.
One of these things is not like the others. Can you tell me which one?
Hmm, you upload a file to a P2P network, and you are now a felon. Think about that - federal jail time, a fine of $250,000, and a permanent black mark that will prevent you from working anywhere but McDonalds.
I think you need to re-evaluate your definition of "reasonable".
I really couldn't find a direct link between the extension and harm on innovation. It's one thing to show it did not help, and another to show it did harm.
Whether is "harms" innovation is moot - it's more important that it doesn't help.
The thing is that copyright extensions are always touted as encouraging innovation - copyright is a balance between encouraging innovation (by allowing creators to profit more from their craft), and encouraging culture for the public good; when you strengthen copyrights, the public loses, but the creator gains (theoretically, encouraging more innovation.)
What this shows is that extending copyrights causes harm to the public, but does nothing to encourage innovation. And THAT is the key.
Tron was a simple program, written only to destroy the MCP
No, actually, Tron was written to shut down programs that perform illegal operations. When he wrote TRON, Allan Bradley didn't even know that MCP was performing illegal operations.
although American schools have the best technology and computer equipment available to students, we still rank pretty much dead last in terms of math and science education
Can you provide a reference to American schools having the "best technology and computer equipment"?
I work closely with a couple of school districts in Canada (who ranks in the top 10 WTR science and math), and they have a very LARGE contingent of computer and technology equipment - new computers, networks, etc - including wireless access, high-speed internet, and more (the Alberta SuperNet project - due to be completed by the beginning of next year - will provide a minimum of 10Mb access to every school in the province, including ones in rural areas.)
What is it, exactly, that American schools have that these schools don't? What magic straw camel's-back-breaking technology do you possess that's causing your problem?
Perhaps it's not the technology that's causing your problem (as you imply), but administrative policy instead?
The only metric worth tracking is number of tickets sold. Yet no one ever tracks them.
While I agree with you and realize that it's a better metric, even # of tickets sold is misleading, because of population growth/increased number of screens.
There are more movie screens in existance now than 20 years ago (due to large single-screen theatres being replaced by multiplexes, and because of developing nations gaining theatres), so therefore there are more people available to buy tickets..
Remember to boycott the matrix [boycottthematrix.com]
Interesting - I thought that Tank was written out because the Watchkowskis came to their sense and realized that the guy who played him had the acting skills of a four-year-old suffering from ADD after drinking 10 litres of Jolt Cola.
I had no idea the guy was such a boob.
From the site: "In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Chong claims he crashed a press junket, took food from WB production offices and verbally harrassed the Wachowskis via phone."
So, let me get this straight - a no-talent hack asked for too much money - after they tell him they're not interested, he made verbal threats against the Watchkowskis, harrasses them, admits it on national television, then files a lawsuit against them for not giving in, and now he's looking for my sympathy?!?!?!
Can you please give a description of the word "piracy"?
In Canada, the copyright board is conducting a review for the addition of DMCA-like clauses to copyright law. The initial stage was a request from the public for papers on the implications of this (as it affects the public at large.)
In the second stage, public meetings were held, and in their notes available before the meetings, they commented about the common (in the submitted papers) misuse of the terms "piracy" and "copyright infringement." Specifically, they spelled out that "copyright infringement" meant someone making unlawful copies, and "piracy" meant someone making unlawful copies for the express motive of selling the copies for profit.
The common use of the word "piracy" by the media lobby groups (and the usage by in the blurb preceeding this interview) implies that this distinction has been lost in the US.
Do you believe that people doing casual copying/file sharing, and large-scale illegal businesses who deliberately break the law for profit should be painted with the same brush?
I personally think the NYTimes wants Google to continue to cache their stories.
Considering that NYT sells (it _is_ selling - you buy it with your personal information) access to it's site, I think they might have a problem with having a freely-available mirror available. Unless these "talks" are asking Google to deny access to people who don't have a NYT login.
If they use robots.txt, no NYT articles will come up in Google.
Not true - read the link.. Google has a mechanism that will allow your site to be indexed, but not cached.
The First Amendment has been interpreted by the US courts to me the protection of personal expression... E-mail could be considered to be therefore protected.
While the text of an email can be considered "speech", it's irrelevant - it can still (and should) be regulated, as the first amendment only guarantees that you have the right to speech, it doesn't guarantee that you have the right to any and every method of expressing that speech - especially when it's the receiver, or some other third party, which is paying for it.
Think about it - should you be able to walk into a TV station and demand to be given airtime to talk about your "100% natural penis enhancment" product? Of course not! Why should email be any different?
The first amendment gives you the right to say what you want. It does NOT guarantee you the right to force people to listen, nor the right to force someone else to pay for your speech.
While I understand your logic, there's a HUGE hole in your reasoning (besides the ones already commented upon.)
Binary packages are a great boon to any sysadmin that manages more than one box..
I admin a few dozen Linux boxes (all slackware:o) and binary packages save me a TON of time and effort - the result of which makes my boxes more secure than compiling from source.
For example, not too long ago I updated Squid (due to a security hole), which was running on 20 or so of my servers.. can you imagine HOW MUCH TIME it would take to compile from source for EACH one (considering they are Pentium 1's)? And that I'd have to have a working dev environment on each one!
Instead, I compile the software on an offline server, and check to make sure it works (another imporant step - Squid changed it's config file between versions, so I had to modify the config file).. then turn it into a package, which gets scp'ed to each of the servers, and installed.
Package management allows me to keep track of each file, so upgrades are painless.. and if one of the servers goes down, I can have a new one up and running in 20 minutes, using the same packages I used to upgrade the other systems.
By using binary packages in this way, my systems are MORE secure, because I'm able to minimize the window of vulnerability, and because I don't have to maintain extra software on the boxes (from a security standpoint, anything you don't need should be removed - on a production server, this would include a compiler.)
Remember - not every binary package is untrusted. The ones you make yourself are as trustworthy as the source you used to create them.
Maybe they didn't come out and say Windows for legal reasons.
No, there is no legal reason they'd need to not say "windows is affected" if it really is.
More probably, they're worried about upsetting Bill, like the rewrite of Steve Wozniak's editorial (Steve wrote an article for them about the MS trial, and when they sent it back to him after proofing, they'd changed every instance of "Microsoft is a monopoly" into "Microsoft is innovative".. Woz refused to let them run the modified version.)
Getting a lawyer? Gee, that's a great way to stay employed. What employer wouldn't love for his employees to start threatening legal action, instead of simply taking 10 seconds to simply ask for a raise?
Find another job? How does that solve his problem? If he sucks at negotiation, then he'll just find himself in the same boat at another company (if the company is honest, he may start at market wages, but that sure won't last long.)
If he sucks at negotiation, then the only way he has to fix his problem is to learn negotiation. Yes, it can be done (social skills are just like any other). And the best place to start is to simply go ask his boss (nicely) for a raise. It's that simple.
eventually SCOTUS will kill anti-spam laws as unconstitutional
What? Can you please list the part of the constitution that states that you have the right to steal from people? Where exactly does it say that you are entitled to harrass people you've never met?
Also, please list your address, so I can come by your house when you're sleeping and scream in your window with a bullhorn. After all, if an anti-spam law is unconstitutional, then so must every harrassment or disturbing the peace law.
Maybe they start hijacking machines overseas, or using Trojans to spam from others machines.
And the fact is they're still spamming, and would still be affected by the law.
The answer is a technical one.
Why, exactly? Spam is a social problem, just like any other type of fraud. Please list one social problem that had a technological solution.
The systems we use for email were designed without any regard for trust.
Why is this an issue? I've seen dozens of papers outlining a "spam-free" email system, and in every one of them, there are two outcomes: email becomes useless, or spamming is no more difficult than it is today.
To use your own words, all that will happen is that the people making spam will change their methods.
Anti-spam laws are a good start, because they send a clear message that it's unacceptable. The average computer user finds spam annoying, but doesn't do anything about it, because it's not illegal. Some stupid people even say "well, people do it, and it's not illegal, so I might as well do it too."
I'd demand that the source repositories for both AIX and UnixWare be made available for examination during discovery.
The thing is, this has nothing to do with AIX..
The claims that SCO has against IBM have nothing to do with stolen code - they have to do with (nebulous) "IP" infringement.. (Read the lawsuit docs - they're not making any claims that IBM put the alleged infringing code in Linux, they're claiming that IBM used SCO's "IP" to make Linux better.)
If the IBM lawsuit was about simple cut-and-dried copyright infringement, then your argument would have some relevance, but (right now, at least) the IBM and the "stolen code" claims are two separate issues.
Slashdot Mirror
Do you have permission from SCO to use their FTP servers?
/. to post your drivel?
Yes. Why wouldn't I? Do you have "permission" from
Here is what is says on their official website:
And WHAT DOES IT SAY ON THEIR FTP SERVER?
The sale of this SCO Linux product to new customers is currently suspended
I'm not buying SCO Linux - they don't charge for access to their FTP server, you know.
SCO does not actually offer the Linux kernel in any form
Really? If you look here I think you'll find that they offer it in MANY forms (3 different patch levels, including source and binaries.) If you're lazy, try downloading this file and taking a look inside it.
Unless they accept the GPL, they have NO RIGHT to distribute the program.
Again, who said they were?
Well, HOW ABOUT THEIR FTP SITE, FOR ONE?
How hard is this to understand? Terribly, according to you.
Perl or similar launguage scripts that get run to parse the old file, and copy out customized settings...and reslove changes, deprecations, and additions that have occured.
And Perl is supposed to know exactly what the format and options are for each config file, what's changed, what's legal and illegal now, what the default settings are, how the various options interact with each other, and what the systems administrator intended to do with them?
Copying a copyrighted work without permission from the copyright owner is illegal. Period.
.
NO, IT MOST CERTAINLY IS _NOT_
I regularly take CD's I have at home, and make mixes to play in my car (as I have 400+ CDs, and my car CD player only holds 4.)
The CDs are copyrighted works.
I do not have permission of the copyright holder to make the mix CDs.
IT IS MOST DEFINITELY _NOT_ ILLEGAL FOR ME TO DO THIS , as it's covered under FAIR USE.
The *only* caveat that comes into play is with regards to geography, since people in one country are not typically subject to the laws of another.
If this is true, then how can fair use exist? How can someone in California legally copy a newspaper article from a California newspaper, and not be infringing copyright?
There are many instances were it's not illegal to make a copy of a copyrighted work without the owner's permission.
But aren't most of the programs identified part of most distributions' standard ISO image
No. You listed 8 notices. "Most" means at least 5 of them must be present - there are 2 apps there that would be included as part of a standard distro.
which in most cases get installed by default?
No. Unzip may be installed as part of standard system utilities in most distros, but the rest of them (including NFS) won't get installed "by default". You have to explicitly install it. It may come on the CD, but it doesn't get installed unless you want it there.
Please take your troll somewhere else. If you're going to attempt to do this, you should at least learn a LITTLE about Linux - otherwise you just look like a moron.
It's perfectly reasonable
You have a pretty strange definition of "reasonable".
Hmm, let's play the Sesame Street game:
Kidnapping.
Rape.
Assault with a deadly weapon.
Grand theft auto.
Uploading a file on a P2P network.
One of these things is not like the others. Can you tell me which one?
Hmm, you upload a file to a P2P network, and you are now a felon. Think about that - federal jail time, a fine of $250,000, and a permanent black mark that will prevent you from working anywhere but McDonalds.
I think you need to re-evaluate your definition of "reasonable".
I really couldn't find a direct link between the extension and harm on innovation. It's one thing to show it did not help, and another to show it did harm.
Whether is "harms" innovation is moot - it's more important that it doesn't help.
The thing is that copyright extensions are always touted as encouraging innovation - copyright is a balance between encouraging innovation (by allowing creators to profit more from their craft), and encouraging culture for the public good; when you strengthen copyrights, the public loses, but the creator gains (theoretically, encouraging more innovation.)
What this shows is that extending copyrights causes harm to the public, but does nothing to encourage innovation. And THAT is the key.
Tron was a simple program, written only to destroy the MCP
No, actually, Tron was written to shut down programs that perform illegal operations. When he wrote TRON, Allan Bradley didn't even know that MCP was performing illegal operations.
although American schools have the best technology and computer equipment available to students, we still rank pretty much dead last in terms of math and science education
Can you provide a reference to American schools having the "best technology and computer equipment"?
I work closely with a couple of school districts in Canada (who ranks in the top 10 WTR science and math), and they have a very LARGE contingent of computer and technology equipment - new computers, networks, etc - including wireless access, high-speed internet, and more (the Alberta SuperNet project - due to be completed by the beginning of next year - will provide a minimum of 10Mb access to every school in the province, including ones in rural areas.)
What is it, exactly, that American schools have that these schools don't? What magic straw camel's-back-breaking technology do you possess that's causing your problem?
Perhaps it's not the technology that's causing your problem (as you imply), but administrative policy instead?
The only metric worth tracking is number of tickets sold. Yet no one ever tracks them.
While I agree with you and realize that it's a better metric, even # of tickets sold is misleading, because of population growth/increased number of screens.
There are more movie screens in existance now than 20 years ago (due to large single-screen theatres being replaced by multiplexes, and because of developing nations gaining theatres), so therefore there are more people available to buy tickets..
Remember to boycott the matrix [boycottthematrix.com]
Interesting - I thought that Tank was written out because the Watchkowskis came to their sense and realized that the guy who played him had the acting skills of a four-year-old suffering from ADD after drinking 10 litres of Jolt Cola.
I had no idea the guy was such a boob.
From the site:
"In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Chong claims he crashed a press junket, took food from WB production offices and verbally harrassed the Wachowskis via phone."
So, let me get this straight - a no-talent hack asked for too much money - after they tell him they're not interested, he made verbal threats against the Watchkowskis, harrasses them, admits it on national television, then files a lawsuit against them for not giving in, and now he's looking for my sympathy?!?!?!
Jebus, what color is the sky in this guy's world?
Spam is a cost effective, if obnoxious, solution for advertising
And burglary is a cost effective, if obnoxious, alternative to working.
Even though theft is illegal, it won't stop people from doing it. Does this mean that we should simply throw all of the theft laws?
Spam is not "cost effective", it's theft - and no legitimate business would engage in the process of stealing from people it wants to sell things to.
We need to start somewhere, and this is as good a place as any.
What is the one thing that people usually don't understand about you
:o)
Man - that's gotta be right up there with "If you wewe a twee, what kind of twee would you be?"
Can you please give a description of the word "piracy"?
In Canada, the copyright board is conducting a review for the addition of DMCA-like clauses to copyright law. The initial stage was a request from the public for papers on the implications of this (as it affects the public at large.)
In the second stage, public meetings were held, and in their notes available before the meetings, they commented about the common (in the submitted papers) misuse of the terms "piracy" and "copyright infringement." Specifically, they spelled out that "copyright infringement" meant someone making unlawful copies, and "piracy" meant someone making unlawful copies for the express motive of selling the copies for profit.
The common use of the word "piracy" by the media lobby groups (and the usage by in the blurb preceeding this interview) implies that this distinction has been lost in the US.
Do you believe that people doing casual copying/file sharing, and large-scale illegal businesses who deliberately break the law for profit should be painted with the same brush?
I personally think the NYTimes wants Google to continue to cache their stories.
Considering that NYT sells (it _is_ selling - you buy it with your personal information) access to it's site, I think they might have a problem with having a freely-available mirror available. Unless these "talks" are asking Google to deny access to people who don't have a NYT login.
If they use robots.txt, no NYT articles will come up in Google.
Not true - read the link.. Google has a mechanism that will allow your site to be indexed, but not cached.
The First Amendment has been interpreted by the US courts to me the protection of personal expression. .. E-mail could be considered to be therefore protected.
While the text of an email can be considered "speech", it's irrelevant - it can still (and should) be regulated, as the first amendment only guarantees that you have the right to speech, it doesn't guarantee that you have the right to any and every method of expressing that speech - especially when it's the receiver, or some other third party, which is paying for it.
Think about it - should you be able to walk into a TV station and demand to be given airtime to talk about your "100% natural penis enhancment" product? Of course not! Why should email be any different?
The first amendment gives you the right to say what you want. It does NOT guarantee you the right to force people to listen, nor the right to force someone else to pay for your speech.
While I understand your logic, there's a HUGE hole in your reasoning (besides the ones already commented upon.)
:o) and binary packages save me a TON of time and effort - the result of which makes my boxes more secure than compiling from source.
Binary packages are a great boon to any sysadmin that manages more than one box..
I admin a few dozen Linux boxes (all slackware
For example, not too long ago I updated Squid (due to a security hole), which was running on 20 or so of my servers.. can you imagine HOW MUCH TIME it would take to compile from source for EACH one (considering they are Pentium 1's)? And that I'd have to have a working dev environment on each one!
Instead, I compile the software on an offline server, and check to make sure it works (another imporant step - Squid changed it's config file between versions, so I had to modify the config file).. then turn it into a package, which gets scp'ed to each of the servers, and installed.
Package management allows me to keep track of each file, so upgrades are painless.. and if one of the servers goes down, I can have a new one up and running in 20 minutes, using the same packages I used to upgrade the other systems.
By using binary packages in this way, my systems are MORE secure, because I'm able to minimize the window of vulnerability, and because I don't have to maintain extra software on the boxes (from a security standpoint, anything you don't need should be removed - on a production server, this would include a compiler.)
Remember - not every binary package is untrusted. The ones you make yourself are as trustworthy as the source you used to create them.
The code in contention is Unix System V.
Is that a fact?.
I suppose someone ought to tell the guys at SCO that, because they seem blissfully unaware.
Maybe they didn't come out and say Windows for legal reasons.
No, there is no legal reason they'd need to not say "windows is affected" if it really is.
More probably, they're worried about upsetting Bill, like the rewrite of Steve Wozniak's editorial (Steve wrote an article for them about the MS trial, and when they sent it back to him after proofing, they'd changed every instance of "Microsoft is a monopoly" into "Microsoft is innovative".. Woz refused to let them run the modified version.)
What is it with the mass media not wanting to say that a given worm or trojan affects only systems running Microsoft Windows?
Well, this explains the NYT article (they don't want to piss off Gates), and I suppose you could assume something similar for the other media outlets.
Maybe he's just not good at negotiation?
So what's the solution?
Getting a lawyer? Gee, that's a great way to stay employed. What employer wouldn't love for his employees to start threatening legal action, instead of simply taking 10 seconds to simply ask for a raise?
Find another job? How does that solve his problem? If he sucks at negotiation, then he'll just find himself in the same boat at another company (if the company is honest, he may start at market wages, but that sure won't last long.)
If he sucks at negotiation, then the only way he has to fix his problem is to learn negotiation. Yes, it can be done (social skills are just like any other). And the best place to start is to simply go ask his boss (nicely) for a raise. It's that simple.
eventually SCOTUS will kill anti-spam laws as unconstitutional
What? Can you please list the part of the constitution that states that you have the right to steal from people? Where exactly does it say that you are entitled to harrass people you've never met?
Also, please list your address, so I can come by your house when you're sleeping and scream in your window with a bullhorn. After all, if an anti-spam law is unconstitutional, then so must every harrassment or disturbing the peace law.
Maybe they start hijacking machines overseas, or using Trojans to spam from others machines.
And the fact is they're still spamming, and would still be affected by the law.
The answer is a technical one.
Why, exactly? Spam is a social problem, just like any other type of fraud. Please list one social problem that had a technological solution.
The systems we use for email were designed without any regard for trust.
Why is this an issue? I've seen dozens of papers outlining a "spam-free" email system, and in every one of them, there are two outcomes: email becomes useless, or spamming is no more difficult than it is today.
To use your own words, all that will happen is that the people making spam will change their methods.
Anti-spam laws are a good start, because they send a clear message that it's unacceptable. The average computer user finds spam annoying, but doesn't do anything about it, because it's not illegal. Some stupid people even say "well, people do it, and it's not illegal, so I might as well do it too."
I'd demand that the source repositories for both AIX and UnixWare be made available for examination during discovery.
The thing is, this has nothing to do with AIX..
The claims that SCO has against IBM have nothing to do with stolen code - they have to do with (nebulous) "IP" infringement.. (Read the lawsuit docs - they're not making any claims that IBM put the alleged infringing code in Linux, they're claiming that IBM used SCO's "IP" to make Linux better.)
If the IBM lawsuit was about simple cut-and-dried copyright infringement, then your argument would have some relevance, but (right now, at least) the IBM and the "stolen code" claims are two separate issues.