I absolutely agree. I was a big fan of Ubuntu until 10.10. 10.10 was amazing. Packages worked, Gnome worked, the proprietary Nvidia drivers worked and I could concentrate on installing pgAdmin, Java and other dev tools and just frigging work.
Then along came 11.04 which I tried first on a Netbook, and was wondering what the hell was happening. This was some braindead fuckface who had Mac OSX nerd envy. I'm a Mac system administrator, I own two Macs and if I want a Mac I'll use a Mac, not a fucking half-assed braindead clone by some idiot far removed from the mainstream Linux users (Yes, Shuttleworth, that's you). And peripherally I heard about Gnome 3. When I saw the first releases of Gnome 3 and that idiot presenting it, I burst out laughing. I actually did.
Who, in the name of all that's fucking holy, do these shitheads think are going to use their systems? Mac users? I find it hysterical that McCann even thinks that any casual computer using Mac user would even think of using Linux. Netbooks? Somebody ought to inform Shuttleworth and McCann that Netbooks are dead as a concept, killed by Apple's iPad, which bring us to Tablets and Smartphones. Do they honesty think that any major manufacturer is going to use any of these craptastic distros where Android fits the bill perfectly, is as open as they need it to be and satisfies almost all who use it (so much so, that Microsoft and Apple are fighting a huge legal war against it in terror).?
McCann babbles on about the cloud, because someone showed him an iPad and he came. Google has this down pat with ChromeOS. Native C/C++ code is coming to Chrome and will make ChromeOS the perfect cloud OS for anyone who wants that. I am willing to bet good money that ChromeOS with native code will have more apps written for it in its first month of existence than Gnome 3 will have had since it was released.
Who is going to write apps for Gnome3, or Ubuntu 11.10? Is someone going to port Blender, Inkscape and Gimp to either fit into Unity or Gnome 3's UI concepts? I seriously doubt that.
Don't they realise that the people who use Linux use it because of its flexibility? Here's a big hint for them: The Windows95 Windowing concept lived so long because it works. Microsoft will discover this when Windows 8 rolls round with its fucktastic HTML5 tiled interface and MS's user start complaining that although Windows Explorer was shit, at least they could find their fucking files.
Fuck them. I wish them good luck in their journey towards obscurity. Me, I'm on Mint with XFCE. Mint is switching its XFCE distro back to Debian and I'm very, very glad about that.
You're an ignorant cunt, but at least you're a slashdot faithful who didn't bother to RTFA. Of course they could develop apps for iOS in Africa, and in fact they do, but an iPhone costs a fuck of a lot more than a cheap Chinese Android device does. Developing for Android is also free.
As for how they pay for their phones, do a bit of reading. Google it.
I'm also a Mac admin and we're actively looking for replacements for Apple's gear two or three years down the road. We made the mistake, being a mostly Mac company (about 20% Windows) of letting ourselves be convinced into switching over to a Mac server based server infrastructure back in 2006, just around the time Apple killed the XRaid. I suppose the writing was on the wall back then already, but we didn't really want to look too closely. When Apple killed the XServer with two months notice at the end of last year, it became blindingly obvious, though. Anyone using Mac server software or gear in a larger than workgroup sized company should think carefully before using this tool.
I agree, the only way the patent suit business will ever die is if it gets so bad that only the huge developers can afford to produce products anymore. What is much more likely, though, is that people will stop selling products in the US market and that the US market will stagnate and slowly die. The Americans are extremely bad at implementing any legal reforms due to the immense amount of lobbying going on there. Frankly, given the state of the US economy, one would think that the Americans would see the need to implement reform, because all the patent nonsense does is isolate the US even more.
Had exactly the same experience. Running Mint seems to have solved that one, and I'm really appreciating the attention to detail paid by the Mint developers.
I'm a Mac sysadmin and even I think the problem is more with Ubuntu's culture of having Mark Shuttleworth make all the important decisions instead of people who are closer to the actual user base. The way Ubuntu has jumped around all over the place in recent UI developments, moving from a Windows-like UI to a Mac-like UI and now a clusterfuck iOS-like UI with Mac elements reminds me of Apple with its latest OS Lion, which effectively drops things like Expose and the Dashboard for a weird iOS-like UI.
I used to really like Ubuntu and was pretty happy with the 10.x series, even though I found moving the window controls to the left to be a poor attempt to ape the Mac. Then I tried the mobile version of 10 and even installed 11.04 for one day but it is so broken I simply cannot use it.
Thank god for the saner minds prevailing over at Linux Mint in their decision to stick with Gnome but not use the Gnome shell, which is as bad as Unity. The problem with both Gnome and Ubuntu is that they're behaving like headless chickens seeing their dreams of actual market relevance march away from their bright hopes of the Netbook days with Apple's iOS and Google's Android taking away all their market share in that space. And they're dumb as bricks because no manufacturer is ever going to install those two basket case UIs in place of Android.
They would have been better off keeping their focus on normal desktops and laptops, as the people who actually work with Linux need useful UIs, not broken attempts at passing trends.
Jesus, you Americans are a bunch of insular, retarded fucks on occasion and that goes for the reviewer as well. Using the google search in any browser would have shown you the use of the word Natty. It means neat, as in cool or elegant. Mark Shuttleworth is South African, and fortunately, American beer is not available there.
Kudos for your post. His will to work is simply amazing, and I respect him a lot for that. I wish him the best, but I feel he might not be around much longer.
What won't change will be arrogant, clueless Mac users lecturing users of other platforms on how superior Mac users are to the rest of the human race, and I say that as a Mac user myself.
When someone from China stands on the moon and Americans are frothing at the mouth in rage because it's not them is why America needs a manned space programme.
I'm also willing to wager that both China and Russia will have long term moon base programmes running when they get their. Having the moon as a manufacturing launchpad for exploration of the rest of the solar system will be ideal in the long term.
Ahmen! Went to Mint myself. Willprobably stay with Mint because they actually seem to care about the user experience and less about Mark fucking Shuttleworth's fucking ego.
This is so true it isn't funny. Shuttleworth lost the plot somewhere with his benevolent dictator crap. He's still after marketshare, not aware that the marketshare of Linux will never, repeat never equal that of Mac or Windows. He used to be trying to catch up with Windows and then he discovered Macs, which meant that Ubuntu had to suffer the move of the window controls to the left hand side of the screen like Mac. Now he's discovered iOS and is crazily mixing iOS, OSX and Windows features in a way that confuses the shit out of most people trying to use Unity. The guy's an obstinate cunt, too, because the massive amount of bad PR Unity has got (thousands of people, like me, installing then rapidly looking for something else, in my case Mint) should have told him he was messing up.
Already switched to Mint on my laptop, and it's beautiful in a way no other Linux has ever been and shows what you can do with plain old Gnome 2 if you care enough. I pity the Mint people, though, because although their base for the Gnome release has always been Ubuntu, they're going to have to look elsewhere in future. Their Debian based distro has been rapidly gaining in popularity, though as people clamour for breaking the ties with Ubuntu.
I'll switch to XFCE, give Gnome.org three or four years to realise that no one is using their software anymore and to bring back window lists, a dock and proper window controls and then I'll consider switching back.
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I absolutely agree. I was a big fan of Ubuntu until 10.10. 10.10 was amazing. Packages worked, Gnome worked, the proprietary Nvidia drivers worked and I could concentrate on installing pgAdmin, Java and other dev tools and just frigging work.
Then along came 11.04 which I tried first on a Netbook, and was wondering what the hell was happening. This was some braindead fuckface who had Mac OSX nerd envy. I'm a Mac system administrator, I own two Macs and if I want a Mac I'll use a Mac, not a fucking half-assed braindead clone by some idiot far removed from the mainstream Linux users (Yes, Shuttleworth, that's you). And peripherally I heard about Gnome 3. When I saw the first releases of Gnome 3 and that idiot presenting it, I burst out laughing. I actually did.
Who, in the name of all that's fucking holy, do these shitheads think are going to use their systems? Mac users? I find it hysterical that McCann even thinks that any casual computer using Mac user would even think of using Linux. Netbooks? Somebody ought to inform Shuttleworth and McCann that Netbooks are dead as a concept, killed by Apple's iPad, which bring us to Tablets and Smartphones. Do they honesty think that any major manufacturer is going to use any of these craptastic distros where Android fits the bill perfectly, is as open as they need it to be and satisfies almost all who use it (so much so, that Microsoft and Apple are fighting a huge legal war against it in terror).?
McCann babbles on about the cloud, because someone showed him an iPad and he came. Google has this down pat with ChromeOS. Native C/C++ code is coming to Chrome and will make ChromeOS the perfect cloud OS for anyone who wants that. I am willing to bet good money that ChromeOS with native code will have more apps written for it in its first month of existence than Gnome 3 will have had since it was released.
Who is going to write apps for Gnome3, or Ubuntu 11.10? Is someone going to port Blender, Inkscape and Gimp to either fit into Unity or Gnome 3's UI concepts? I seriously doubt that.
Don't they realise that the people who use Linux use it because of its flexibility? Here's a big hint for them: The Windows95 Windowing concept lived so long because it works. Microsoft will discover this when Windows 8 rolls round with its fucktastic HTML5 tiled interface and MS's user start complaining that although Windows Explorer was shit, at least they could find their fucking files.
Fuck them. I wish them good luck in their journey towards obscurity. Me, I'm on Mint with XFCE. Mint is switching its XFCE distro back to Debian and I'm very, very glad about that.
You're an ignorant cunt, but at least you're a slashdot faithful who didn't bother to RTFA. Of course they could develop apps for iOS in Africa, and in fact they do, but an iPhone costs a fuck of a lot more than a cheap Chinese Android device does. Developing for Android is also free.
As for how they pay for their phones, do a bit of reading. Google it.
:D
Did you actually read the article?
I'm also a Mac admin and we're actively looking for replacements for Apple's gear two or three years down the road. We made the mistake, being a mostly Mac company (about 20% Windows) of letting ourselves be convinced into switching over to a Mac server based server infrastructure back in 2006, just around the time Apple killed the XRaid. I suppose the writing was on the wall back then already, but we didn't really want to look too closely. When Apple killed the XServer with two months notice at the end of last year, it became blindingly obvious, though. Anyone using Mac server software or gear in a larger than workgroup sized company should think carefully before using this tool.
I agree, the only way the patent suit business will ever die is if it gets so bad that only the huge developers can afford to produce products anymore. What is much more likely, though, is that people will stop selling products in the US market and that the US market will stagnate and slowly die. The Americans are extremely bad at implementing any legal reforms due to the immense amount of lobbying going on there. Frankly, given the state of the US economy, one would think that the Americans would see the need to implement reform, because all the patent nonsense does is isolate the US even more.
Seriously, get that aspergers treated. There are lots of reasons to dislike Apple and Mac OSX, but desktop backgrounds is not one of them.
Had exactly the same experience. Running Mint seems to have solved that one, and I'm really appreciating the attention to detail paid by the Mint developers.
I'm a Mac sysadmin and even I think the problem is more with Ubuntu's culture of having Mark Shuttleworth make all the important decisions instead of people who are closer to the actual user base. The way Ubuntu has jumped around all over the place in recent UI developments, moving from a Windows-like UI to a Mac-like UI and now a clusterfuck iOS-like UI with Mac elements reminds me of Apple with its latest OS Lion, which effectively drops things like Expose and the Dashboard for a weird iOS-like UI.
I used to really like Ubuntu and was pretty happy with the 10.x series, even though I found moving the window controls to the left to be a poor attempt to ape the Mac. Then I tried the mobile version of 10 and even installed 11.04 for one day but it is so broken I simply cannot use it.
Thank god for the saner minds prevailing over at Linux Mint in their decision to stick with Gnome but not use the Gnome shell, which is as bad as Unity. The problem with both Gnome and Ubuntu is that they're behaving like headless chickens seeing their dreams of actual market relevance march away from their bright hopes of the Netbook days with Apple's iOS and Google's Android taking away all their market share in that space. And they're dumb as bricks because no manufacturer is ever going to install those two basket case UIs in place of Android.
They would have been better off keeping their focus on normal desktops and laptops, as the people who actually work with Linux need useful UIs, not broken attempts at passing trends.
Jesus, you Americans are a bunch of insular, retarded fucks on occasion and that goes for the reviewer as well. Using the google search in any browser would have shown you the use of the word Natty. It means neat, as in cool or elegant. Mark Shuttleworth is South African, and fortunately, American beer is not available there.
Kudos for your post. His will to work is simply amazing, and I respect him a lot for that. I wish him the best, but I feel he might not be around much longer.
The ironic thing about that page is that it's about 90% more legible than the crap that web 2.0 and html 5 brought us.
What won't change will be arrogant, clueless Mac users lecturing users of other platforms on how superior Mac users are to the rest of the human race, and I say that as a Mac user myself.
Then they should subpoena the emails of the individuals involved, don't you think?
FTT: "Neither Fedora nor Ubuntu have any students this year."
Seems like Google thinks Unity sucks as well. :P
Terminal Services? Citrix? I think the need for the apps to run locally is overrated.
It is, however, another chip off the monolith of the Dollar.Enough chips and it is no longer a monolith, but a garden gnome.
When someone from China stands on the moon and Americans are frothing at the mouth in rage because it's not them is why America needs a manned space programme.
I'm also willing to wager that both China and Russia will have long term moon base programmes running when they get their. Having the moon as a manufacturing launchpad for exploration of the rest of the solar system will be ideal in the long term.
Ahmen! Went to Mint myself. Willprobably stay with Mint because they actually seem to care about the user experience and less about Mark fucking Shuttleworth's fucking ego.
This is so true it isn't funny. Shuttleworth lost the plot somewhere with his benevolent dictator crap. He's still after marketshare, not aware that the marketshare of Linux will never, repeat never equal that of Mac or Windows. He used to be trying to catch up with Windows and then he discovered Macs, which meant that Ubuntu had to suffer the move of the window controls to the left hand side of the screen like Mac. Now he's discovered iOS and is crazily mixing iOS, OSX and Windows features in a way that confuses the shit out of most people trying to use Unity. The guy's an obstinate cunt, too, because the massive amount of bad PR Unity has got (thousands of people, like me, installing then rapidly looking for something else, in my case Mint) should have told him he was messing up.
Already switched to Mint on my laptop, and it's beautiful in a way no other Linux has ever been and shows what you can do with plain old Gnome 2 if you care enough. I pity the Mint people, though, because although their base for the Gnome release has always been Ubuntu, they're going to have to look elsewhere in future. Their Debian based distro has been rapidly gaining in popularity, though as people clamour for breaking the ties with Ubuntu.
But what about vowel harmony? No theory on Korean/Japanese relationships is complete without a discussion of their relationship with Altaic etc. :D
That must be the understatement of the year amongst Linux users.
Apparently you can: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28733.html
I'll switch to XFCE, give Gnome.org three or four years to realise that no one is using their software anymore and to bring back window lists, a dock and proper window controls and then I'll consider switching back.
Ciao.