I'm Dutch so I'm using euro's. In india they use rupees, and large amounts of Rupees are expressed in lakh rupees or crore rupees. A Lakh Rupee is one hundred thousand rupees and a crore rupee is ten million rupees.
For you ignorant fool the conversion gets you 1698 Euro for 1 lakh rupee.
You are probably a US'ian, so you probably think your dollar is the only valid currency in the world. The rest of the world doesn't think so:
Now, that the euro (a) exists, and (b) has already achieved a tremendous amount of penetration of the international currency markets and even central bank reserves to some extent, and (c) has not lost decisively in value but has gained back all "losses" to date, the stage is set for a slow, gradual, but complete takeover by the euro of the dollar's role as the international reserve currency.
This process will not be allowed to take place too suddenly, because a complete and rapid "crash" of the US economy would still hurt too many countries that are dependent on the US market for their exports. Their export routes will have to be shifted first.
Rather, the US economy will be allowed to slowly suffocate under its own dollar-weight, letting it go into a gradual recession, with gradual deflationary pressures exerting themselves at first a la Japan (now happening), which the Fed is presently proceeding to "fight" with mammoth inflation, and that will eventually help bring about hyper-inflation.
--
You know, I used to be rather fond of the US, I've travelled through 35 states, and know the country well. With your current government, the US is loosing goodwill at a tremendous rate, and your personal kind of stupidity doesn't help. But who cares, you're likely an adolescent male anyway.
I saw your 'too taboo' link to the Loose Change documentary. This compelling low budget documentary is probably very far of the mark, and I'd like to point people also to the following links
I had seen the mbox files in Mail directories, read about mbox format, and assumed that was the way it worked. Thanks to your post I had a look in the Mail directory, and you are 100% correct.
My apologies.
However; the address book data are in one file (~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Addresbook.data), and spotlight indexes that just fine, as individual records, which was the point of my rant.
I kind of thought it was common sense that radiation is harmful. I didn't think we still needed studies to prove this.
Your statement shows clearly your total lack of comprehension on the differences between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation. Maybe you'd like to consider the fact that without your precious body being continuously immersed in radiation, you'd be dead quickly. I leave it is an exercise for you to figure out why.
Bart
P.S. if you can't figure it out in half an hour, see here
>> For a thought experiment, it would be fun to force RMS to run a company producing some hardware for a while.
So what's the problem? Write your own software instead of trying to steal it from people who believe in the GPL ideas.
I have no problem whatsoever with writing closed source proprietary software, I've earned loads of money doing it. The GPL rule is extremely simple to understand: "either join the rules, or stay out of it". That's all there is to it. It's not communist or anything, it just means you get to build on other peoples work, provided you give back what you add.
There are plenty of closed source, non-free operating systems, compilers, editors out there. Some of them are really good (UltraEdit, QNX, CodeWarrrior,...) Nothing prevents you from using those exclusively. There is even the lesser GPL, which allows you to link with some libraries.
What is your complaint specifically, if I may ask ?
Interesting thread!
Your thoughts remind me of the SF book A voyage from yesteryear by James Patrick Hogan. In this book there is a planet with people on it that have never had any need for materially competing with each other, because they were raised by robots from a starship, and a robots provide everything they could possibly need. These people get their selfrespect from actually being able to do something well, it's their only measure. It doesn't really matter what they're good at, as long as it's something. Our "I've got more than you do" society meets their society, and the results are quite interesting.
Bart
Please mail your insightful comment to Steve Ballmer. I'm sure he'll implement your wise suggestion immediately. Imagine the joy the Microsoft shareholders would have from just telling us Europeans to go fly a kite. Imagine the sorrow on our European faces when we hear we'll no longer be privileged to use the magnificent software flowing from Redmond.
I love it. Now we enter the "formation" period! No new laws for a while! I've often wondered why we don't keep the government in this "formation" state forever. They have plenty of laws already; no need for any new ones. This way the people can get used to the rules they have to abide, and find workarounds for the ones they dislike.
I've never noticed any harm from this standstill period. It seems to me the government is now doing what it should be doing; executing the laws that exist already.
Maybe we should have a lawmaking period of 1 year every 10 years, and the rest of the time a moratorium, or a cleanup period for obsolete laws; that would be nice.
Without patents, things would surely be invented... just not as quickly.
Software is apparently excluded from this, considering the amazing pace of innovation for the last 20 years or so. The EU specifically blocked software patents early on in order to make sure this innovation would not be hindered by patents.
Bart
> I honestly don't know what people are recording. I watch about 3 shows, and if I miss them, I miss them - whooptie doo. I just can't really justify the cost of a DVR. But then again, I don't understand why people spend $1200+ on a television
Amen brother! 250 is about my max budget when my current 10 year old TV dies; but fortunately it's still going strong (except that the videotext overlay brightness is too low:-) I really don't see understand the compulsion to actually put an effort into watching the idiotbox; it's only purpose is to induce alphawaves into the brain when you are tired.
So what's that supposed to mean, mr. pipingguy. Are we supposed to check the credentials of anyone we date? Maybe she told him some lies, maybe their time was spent in more interesting ways than talking about the job. You seem to blame this guy for not knowing she was involved in a criminal activity. Sounds to me you'd do really nice in a witch hunt.
when the software patents fight was heating up, I hacked the NoSoftwarePatents image into my site. That's probably the image that's flowing into the text. I removed that now. I've also removed the "Valid HTML" link. I don't see any other problems, but if so, I wouldn't mind an email.
I'm from Holland, so legally it's a piece of cake to move to France.
We love the French attitude to life, and are also impressed with their being involved in the state/country/politics. Especially during the EU 'constitution' referendum we've had heated discussions while being at the foot of a rockclimbing cliff:-)
The french are a lot more polite than us Dutch which is another thing I like about them.
En moment je prends un course a l'Alliance Française en Hollande pour mieux apprendre la langue. Çe n'est pas une langue tres difficile, mais je ne suis pas sure:-).
Holland consists of two of the provinces of the Netherlands. These two contain Amsterdam and Rotterdam plus the majority of the economic activity of the Netherlands, but the country is really called 'Nederland' (the Netherlands).
Bart
lived in Amsterdam for 40 years, and has now happily moved to a town in the province:-)
in/Library you'll find the Apple shared libraries, that will NOT be duplicated in memory. Apple decided rightly to strong discourage non-Apple developers from creating shared libraries, since they're generally not shared anyway. Discouraged is the word. Some companies (Adobe for instance) do create system wide shared libraries, that all Adobe apps use. Apple takes great care to make sure nothing breaks when they're modifying system dynamic libraries.
So most but not all applications are single packages, which vastly dimishes the complexity of installing, uninstalling and copying applications.
I am Dutch, used to like the U.S., used to admire the core values that it stood for. I've spent more than a year in the States (in the late eighties), travelled through 35 states, and generally loved it, and its people. There is (used to be?) some kind of optimism, and absence of cynism with Americans, that you don't find in the Netherlands.
I don't go to the States much anymore, so the only thing I see is the news and sites such as this, but it seems to me that the U.S. has changed terribly for the worse. It seems to be a fear based society by now.
The terrorist attacks on 9/11 seem to have given the Bush government the excuse they needed (lets not talk about the conspiracies), but you Americans let Bush get away with it!
You have no more job security it seems, which is why you are working way more than pretty much everyone else in the first world.
The lawsuit mania makes people scared about taking any risk whatsoever.
The corporations get away with breaking the law, and f**ing over their customers.
The U.S. used to be some kind of example to a lot of Europeans, but these days, not many think that way anymore. Anyway, I'm just rambling all over the place, but I really do hope that Americans change the course their society is heading, because right now the direction seems scary (Heinlein, "if this goes on?")
good luck, you'll need it
P.S. I hope Bush leaves at the next elections, but the way he's amending the Constitution, I'm not even sure about that:-(
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You generate a new install CD every month. Poor you. Shows exactly the kind of reliability people expect from Windows, even you, an experienced user.
I've been a Mac user and developer for 15 years, and I only backup my data, and maybe once (I can't remember when actually) backed up my Applications. I don't think I've ever reinstalled a Mac because I had problems with it, not since System 7. When I buy a new one, I typically just copy the applications to the new machine, and ocassionally have to type in a serial number, that's it. No registry, no trouble.
Your attitude is actually what drives people that are comfortable in multiple operating systems nuts. The assumption that Operating Systems should be treated with silk gloves because otherwise they get ill is what's wrong with you people. No you don't hear me say that XP crashes a lot. I doesn't, at least not on the computers I use. It's just that its whole handling of Applications and Application preferences sucks unbelievably. One of the other posters mentioned the old ini files. Those were heaven compared to the disaster that's called the Registry.
Do you have any idea how Application Preferences work on a Mac. Let me tell you; Each application tries to find its preferences file in the 'Preferences' folder. If it is not found it will create a sensible default file. The file is nowadays xml, but that's really up to the application. Want to copy an application: just copy the application to another computer, and optionally copy the preferences file. Some applications store shared libraries in the apropriate directory, but fortunately not many; shared libraries are discouraged by Apple, that rightly says that applications should be selfcontained.
You Windows people should try to look outside your own world, and see if there might be something better. Often there is.
having been an Apple developer and user for about 15 years, I say you have no idea what you're talking about. Very simply put, the reason Apple and third party hardware has always worked together has been
Apple provides very well documented, very futureproof interfaces to the OS. This has always been the case, for any Apple OS. I'm not saying that the interface won't change over time, I'm just saying that there has been some serious thought put into the API.
Apple strongly encourages everyone to talk to the hardware via the O.S, instead of trying to figure out direct paths to the hardware. A very strong proof of this is the capability to switch processors, recently even a different endian type, without much hassle.
Apple users refuse to buy halfbaked hardware. Many a company that came from Windows found out about this to their sorrow. Apple users are much more demanding of their computer and want it to just work! They are generally willing to pay a premium for this.
Oh i know a compiler like that!
It's from Softools, and is meant for Rabbit microcontrollers. It'll say stuff like.
"blabla, assuming blaba".
I don't have the compiler here at hand, but it really assumes stuff about your code and will actually try to continue the compile because you forgot a semicolon, or braceclose or whatever. The most horrible compiler I have ever used.
bar none!!!
did you know that "low fat yoghurt" in the U.S. has the fat content of regular yoghurt in the Netherlands. Our "low fat" yoghurt has about half. When we were touring the U.S. and Canada my wife was shocked how fat and sugary all the foodstuffs in the supermarkets over there are. She's very aware of food caloric and fat content because she's an athlete. It was hard to find good quality food.
Another thing. Did you ever think about the significance of having a "health food" section in a supermarket. Makes you think what they're selling in the other aisles.
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I'm Dutch so I'm using euro's. In india they use rupees, and large amounts of Rupees are expressed in lakh rupees or crore rupees. A Lakh Rupee is one hundred thousand rupees and a crore rupee is ten million rupees.
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For you ignorant fool the conversion gets you 1698 Euro for 1 lakh rupee.
You are probably a US'ian, so you probably think your dollar is the only valid currency in the world. The rest of the world doesn't think so:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_03/wallenwei
Now, that the euro (a) exists, and (b) has already achieved a tremendous amount of penetration of the international currency markets and even central bank reserves to some extent, and (c) has not lost decisively in value but has gained back all "losses" to date, the stage is set for a slow, gradual, but complete takeover by the euro of the dollar's role as the international reserve currency.
This process will not be allowed to take place too suddenly, because a complete and rapid "crash" of the US economy would still hurt too many countries that are dependent on the US market for their exports. Their export routes will have to be shifted first.
Rather, the US economy will be allowed to slowly suffocate under its own dollar-weight, letting it go into a gradual recession, with gradual deflationary pressures exerting themselves at first a la Japan (now happening), which the Fed is presently proceeding to "fight" with mammoth inflation, and that will eventually help bring about hyper-inflation.
--
You know, I used to be rather fond of the US, I've travelled through 35 states, and know the country well. With your current government, the US is loosing goodwill at a tremendous rate, and your personal kind of stupidity doesn't help. But who cares, you're likely an adolescent male anyway.
Bart
Wow,
I've never heard of them, but this is poetry!
I had seen the mbox files in Mail directories, read about mbox format, and assumed that was the way it worked. Thanks to your post I had a look in the Mail directory, and you are 100% correct.
My apologies.
However; the address book data are in one file (~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/Addresbook.data), and spotlight indexes that just fine, as individual records, which was the point of my rant.
Bart
nonsense, you have no idea what you're talking about.
apple's Mail program stores its mails in mbox format, i.e. one file per mailbox. spotlight finds your mails perfectly. Same for addressbook records.
Bart
Your statement shows clearly your total lack of comprehension on the differences between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation. Maybe you'd like to consider the fact that without your precious body being continuously immersed in radiation, you'd be dead quickly. I leave it is an exercise for you to figure out why.
Bart
P.S. if you can't figure it out in half an hour, see here
>> For a thought experiment, it would be fun to force RMS to run a company producing some hardware for a while.
...) Nothing prevents you from using those exclusively. There is even the lesser GPL, which allows you to link with some libraries.
So what's the problem? Write your own software instead of trying to steal it from people who believe in the GPL ideas.
I have no problem whatsoever with writing closed source proprietary software, I've earned loads of money doing it. The GPL rule is extremely simple to understand: "either join the rules, or stay out of it". That's all there is to it. It's not communist or anything, it just means you get to build on other peoples work, provided you give back what you add.
There are plenty of closed source, non-free operating systems, compilers, editors out there. Some of them are really good (UltraEdit, QNX, CodeWarrrior,
What is your complaint specifically, if I may ask ?
Bart
Interesting thread!
Your thoughts remind me of the SF book A voyage from yesteryear by James Patrick Hogan. In this book there is a planet with people on it that have never had any need for materially competing with each other, because they were raised by robots from a starship, and a robots provide everything they could possibly need. These people get their selfrespect from actually being able to do something well, it's their only measure. It doesn't really matter what they're good at, as long as it's something. Our "I've got more than you do" society meets their society, and the results are quite interesting.
Bart
Please mail your insightful comment to Steve Ballmer. I'm sure he'll implement your wise suggestion immediately. Imagine the joy the Microsoft shareholders would have from just telling us Europeans to go fly a kite. Imagine the sorrow on our European faces when we hear we'll no longer be privileged to use the magnificent software flowing from Redmond.
Thanks
Hi all
:-)
I love it. Now we enter the "formation" period! No new laws for a while! I've often wondered why we don't keep the government in this "formation" state forever. They have plenty of laws already; no need for any new ones. This way the people can get used to the rules they have to abide, and find workarounds for the ones they dislike.
I've never noticed any harm from this standstill period. It seems to me the government is now doing what it should be doing; executing the laws that exist already.
Maybe we should have a lawmaking period of 1 year every 10 years, and the rest of the time a moratorium, or a cleanup period for obsolete laws; that would be nice.
Just my somewhat libertarian point of view
> I honestly don't know what people are recording. I watch about 3 shows, and if I miss them, I miss them - whooptie doo. I just can't really justify the cost of a DVR. But then again, I don't understand why people spend $1200+ on a television
:-)
Amen brother! 250 is about my max budget when my current 10 year old TV dies; but fortunately it's still going strong (except that the videotext overlay brightness is too low
I really don't see understand the compulsion to actually put an effort into watching the idiotbox; it's only purpose is to induce alphawaves into the brain when you are tired.
Bart
So what's that supposed to mean, mr. pipingguy. Are we supposed to check the credentials of anyone we date? Maybe she told him some lies, maybe their time was spent in more interesting ways than talking about the job. You seem to blame this guy for not knowing she was involved in a criminal activity. Sounds to me you'd do really nice in a witch hunt.
Bye
Hi Willem,
when the software patents fight was heating up, I hacked the NoSoftwarePatents image into my site. That's probably the image that's flowing into the text. I removed that now. I've also removed the "Valid HTML" link. I don't see any other problems, but if so, I wouldn't mind an email.
Thanks
Bart
What a load of utter crap, calling a bug that crashes an application a "Denial of Service'. Morons!
Bart
Merci beaucoup!
I agree!
:-)
:-).
I'm from Holland, so legally it's a piece of cake to move to France.
We love the French attitude to life, and are also impressed with their being involved in the state/country/politics. Especially during the EU 'constitution' referendum we've had heated discussions while being at the foot of a rockclimbing cliff
The french are a lot more polite than us Dutch which is another thing I like about them.
En moment je prends un course a l'Alliance Française en Hollande pour mieux apprendre la langue. Çe n'est pas une langue tres difficile, mais je ne suis pas sure
Au revoir
Monsieur Bart
Holland consists of two of the provinces of the Netherlands. These two contain Amsterdam and Rotterdam plus the majority of the economic activity of the Netherlands, but the country is really called 'Nederland' (the Netherlands).
:-)
Bart
lived in Amsterdam for 40 years, and has now happily moved to a town in the province
No you are wrong.
/Library you'll find the Apple shared libraries, that will NOT be duplicated in memory. Apple decided rightly to strong discourage non-Apple developers from creating shared libraries, since they're generally not shared anyway. Discouraged is the word. Some companies (Adobe for instance) do create system wide shared libraries, that all Adobe apps use. Apple takes great care to make sure nothing breaks when they're modifying system dynamic libraries.
in
So most but not all applications are single packages, which vastly dimishes the complexity of installing, uninstalling and copying applications.
Bye
I am Dutch, used to like the U.S., used to admire the core values that it stood for. I've spent more than a year in the States (in the late eighties), travelled through 35 states, and generally loved it, and its people. There is (used to be?) some kind of optimism, and absence of cynism with Americans, that you don't find in the Netherlands.
I don't go to the States much anymore, so the only thing I see is the news and sites such as this, but it seems to me that the U.S. has changed terribly for the worse. It seems to be a fear based society by now.
The U.S. used to be some kind of example to a lot of Europeans, but these days, not many think that way anymore. Anyway, I'm just rambling all over the place, but I really do hope that Americans change the course their society is heading, because right now the direction seems scary (Heinlein, "if this goes on?")
good luck, you'll need it
P.S. I hope Bush leaves at the next elections, but the way he's amending the Constitution, I'm not even sure about that :-(
Maybe give the guy a friendly call :
m in
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I've been a Mac user and developer for 15 years, and I only backup my data, and maybe once (I can't remember when actually) backed up my Applications. I don't think I've ever reinstalled a Mac because I had problems with it, not since System 7. When I buy a new one, I typically just copy the applications to the new machine, and ocassionally have to type in a serial number, that's it. No registry, no trouble.
Your attitude is actually what drives people that are comfortable in multiple operating systems nuts. The assumption that Operating Systems should be treated with silk gloves because otherwise they get ill is what's wrong with you people. No you don't hear me say that XP crashes a lot. I doesn't, at least not on the computers I use. It's just that its whole handling of Applications and Application preferences sucks unbelievably. One of the other posters mentioned the old ini files. Those were heaven compared to the disaster that's called the Registry.
Do you have any idea how Application Preferences work on a Mac. Let me tell you; Each application tries to find its preferences file in the 'Preferences' folder. If it is not found it will create a sensible default file. The file is nowadays xml, but that's really up to the application. Want to copy an application: just copy the application to another computer, and optionally copy the preferences file. Some applications store shared libraries in the apropriate directory, but fortunately not many; shared libraries are discouraged by Apple, that rightly says that applications should be selfcontained.
You Windows people should try to look outside your own world, and see if there might be something better. Often there is.
Bye
having been an Apple developer and user for about 15 years, I say you have no idea what you're talking about. Very simply put, the reason Apple and third party hardware has always worked together has been
- Apple provides very well documented, very futureproof interfaces to the OS. This has always been the case, for any Apple OS. I'm not saying that the interface won't change over time, I'm just saying that there has been some serious thought put into the API.
- Apple strongly encourages everyone to talk to the hardware via the O.S, instead of trying to figure out direct paths to the hardware. A very strong proof of this is the capability to switch processors, recently even a different endian type, without much hassle.
- Apple users refuse to buy halfbaked hardware. Many a company that came from Windows found out about this to their sorrow. Apple users are much more demanding of their computer and want it to just work! They are generally willing to pay a premium for this.
That's about it. ByeIt's from Softools, and is meant for Rabbit microcontrollers. It'll say stuff like. "blabla, assuming blaba".
I don't have the compiler here at hand, but it really assumes stuff about your code and will actually try to continue the compile because you forgot a semicolon, or braceclose or whatever.
The most horrible compiler I have ever used. bar none!!!
Bart
Hi
did you know that "low fat yoghurt" in the U.S. has the fat content of regular yoghurt in the Netherlands. Our "low fat" yoghurt has about half. When we were touring the U.S. and Canada my wife was shocked how fat and sugary all the foodstuffs in the supermarkets over there are. She's very aware of food caloric and fat content because she's an athlete. It was hard to find good quality food.
Another thing. Did you ever think about the significance of having a "health food" section in a supermarket. Makes you think what they're selling in the other aisles.
Bart