Work with the Mozilla foundation (for Firefox), Sun (for Open Office) and the actually vendors. Often they will supply CD's if you tell them about the event and your group. Also try to work with a group, announce it on a website, publicize the event so it is well received and publicized so the foundations and organizations realize you are motivated and plan on following through. They are more likely to support you with materials so you don't have to do all the work yourself.
Also, contact local groups via Meetup.com like your PHP, Ruby,JAVA, Perl and Linux groups in the area and see if they want to help out. Make it one big fest outside Bestbuy, Walmart and the Apple store on a saturday.
I use Windows too and agree it has been MORE solid but I also use Mac and Debian Linux as well and in comparison, side-by-side... it's buggy, unstable, virus ridden and hackable. Sure props are due in them coming a long way in improving but they have a fundamentally flawed underlying design and need to fix that, the file system and several other core problems before they can stabilize the entire system.
Speaking as someone who uses all three platforms, there's a reason why Mac and Linux people make these complaints when talking about Windows. It's because it's fairly true.
If you put a stable platform on an unstable one, people who are unfamiliar will not realize that the new one is not the problem.
If you put a secure platform on one that is generally more insecure, people will still think it may have gotten a virus through it because they don't understand.
The only thing you are doing is getting people introduced to common applications like Open Office, Firefox and other more commonly used OO applications and there are far better ways to do this than with something that a common consumer will probably never use; if you want them to start using Open Office and Firefox, burn a bunch of Disks and nice labels and start a campaign on 'back to school' periods when everyone is shopping for their kids and college students and stand outside that Mac Store or the BestBuy handing out OpenOffice and Firefox CD's.
What are you, sexist ? Not voting for a woman is obviously sexist. Obama is a man, so they're giving him some leeway in politically-correct land.
But let's take a look at races, without prejudice :
-> Race A votes 91-9 for the candidate of the same gender (and 25% admit that they only did so because of gender)
-> Race B votes 58-42 for the candidate of the same gender (and only 2 guys admitted it had something to do with gender)
Who are the sexist voters ?
See how your silly argument works? It goes both directions. Now how about we talk about the issues and who makes the better candidate rather than who makes the better target for personal assassination because we can all be petty and belittling but it take a true american to rise above these things that would pull us down.
Are you sure you are looking for FOSS?? I think you would have a far easier time finding what you are looking for if you gave up on either the VISTA requirement or the FOSS requirement in this situation.
Oh man! I DO remember that! That's right. It's been so long but they lifted that after tons of people went 'WTF?'. But still they are like nazis with who can see their data stream and on what platforms it can run. Hell Mac is just another UNIX variant as well so what's the big deal. I use the command line on a regular basis on my Mac. But I think they realized that afterward and lifted the ban.
I sympathize on the 360. Microsoft decided to focus on games and put alot of time and money into it and it now shows. I think they could still do better because they are still getting shown up in several ways by Wii and in some ways even by Playstation (but developers aren't taking advantage of the cell yet so no one will really see anything for awhile). But they blew tons of profits trying to take over that market and now they are a dominant player... of course, at the cost of people playing on Windows. Which kind of is a dumb move. Because now that they pushed people onto their consoles, people play games on consoles and can purchase other operating systems now like Macs.
They should have kept people reliant on Windows as their gaming platform and the desktop as a gaming platform. I think the 360 is good but is pulls people away from one of their markets where they are dominant and puts them into another where they have to compete.
Really? I used to play City of Heroes and Wow via Cedega all the time. The framerate was faster than Windows but dependeing on the game, you may not have the best graphics; COH graphics sucked but WOW was EXCELLENT! I suggest giving Cedega a another shot. You may have had an old copy or something. I paid for my copy and received constant updates and never had an issue with WOW. Other games were sometimes iffy but you just had to tweak the Cedega settings usually and you were back online.
The other cool thing is it made it a helluva lot easier to hack the game and 'see through walls' and stuff. People have built some cool hacks for WINE supported games.
Well as you can see... for some reason, I got marked as a troll for even saying this. All factually based but for some reason people don't want to hear it. *shrug*
I dumped City of Heroes after I got my MAC. I was tired of having to log out of Linux to play COH and decided I was just going to dump it entirely and just install WOW on my Mac. I can also play it on Linux via Cedega/WINE really well. Yes this is maybe 10% of the desktop market total but WOW caters to it and as a result is the dominant MORPG for Linux and MAC players. Windows players have a million options to choose from for MORPG's and tons of people fighting for their dollars while 40% of college students are all purchasing Macs and nobody is fighting for this disposable income market.
Seems like someone other than Blizzard would see the wisdom in supporting OpenGL and this expanding market
This actually is a very good observation believe it or not. Most MVC frameworks use XML to load the structure for the site and PHP's XML parser is extraordinariraly subpar so I created an MVC framework whose structure was loaded and cached from MySQL; as a result, it scales better, has a faster page load and blows Zend and others out of the water for speed as a result.
Its not the best approach for all intents and purposes (only 95% SEO compliant) but it has also enable a siwplistic approach for adding an all in one ajax approach and XUL compatibility really easily. Still I wish they would focus on improving XML parsing.
I don't know where you are looking because it's entirely the opposite on Amazon.uk. One of equivalent VALUE is more expensive. Check the specs on the machine before opening your mouth.
Richer? It costs less than a Dell? Elitist? Why does one have to be elitist to own a Mac? 48% of college students are purchasing Macs as their first computer. Are they all elitists because they own a Mac or because they're seeking a higher education? In which case, you imply it is better to not be educated and own Windows.
They patched Diablo for OpenGL and are building Starcraft MMORPG in OpenGL as well. Also ID Software's John Carmack uses OpenGL and has publicly bashed DirectX. Alot of game developers and studios are moving towards OpenGL these days not just because of the popularity of the Mac as a platform and because more college aged people are getting Macs but because they are disatisfied with Windows and DirectX. And OS X just updated OpenGL in Leopard as well so this doesn't seem to be as far fetched as you would think.
They are taking advantage of the current disatisfaction within the gaming industry with only having one option for a platform and are giving people a second option and an aditional market. Don't expect people to abandon the original Windows markt but expect them to develop products that are cross platform.
Well this time it would go over better because this time game developers are 'pissed' at Microsoft and have been moving to OpenGL from DirectX. That was one of the reasons why Blizzard chose OpenGL rather than DirectX; It wasn't because they had a big huggy fest for Macs and Linx, it was because they were pissed at Microsoft and hated DirectX. So they started developing on OpenGL and as a result have HUGE market!!! No one else can natively play on Macs and Linux and though people may scoff, this has greatly extended their market.
I paid $300 for my touch iPod and it depends on what you mean by low capacity. I can stream media over the internet to the device from Youtube or from a Slingbox. I no longer use the device as the main storage medium and now use it mainly as a second stage storage device. So what do I need all that capacity for? So I guess you are right... the touch iPod isn't in the same market; it's redefined it and left Zune in the dust yet again.
I worked with a guy who was 'pro-microsoft' and swallowed every word that cme out of Redmond (we live in Seattle). He got the Zune the second they came out and they looked like crap but had a full color screen. He had it crash a few times on him and had trouble with it from the start but he always said 'works great!' with a smile no matter how many times I saw him having problems with it.
And now with the touch iPods having wireless connectivity to the internet, touch screens, video and applications, the ZUNE is even more a brick.
Finally I don't have to launch X11 to open Open Office on Mac anymore. I look forward to the final release so that I can finally get everyone I know on Macs off Microsoft Office once and for all.
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Work with the Mozilla foundation (for Firefox), Sun (for Open Office) and the actually vendors. Often they will supply CD's if you tell them about the event and your group. Also try to work with a group, announce it on a website, publicize the event so it is well received and publicized so the foundations and organizations realize you are motivated and plan on following through. They are more likely to support you with materials so you don't have to do all the work yourself.
Also, contact local groups via Meetup.com like your PHP, Ruby,JAVA, Perl and Linux groups in the area and see if they want to help out. Make it one big fest outside Bestbuy, Walmart and the Apple store on a saturday.
I use Windows too and agree it has been MORE solid but I also use Mac and Debian Linux as well and in comparison, side-by-side... it's buggy, unstable, virus ridden and hackable. Sure props are due in them coming a long way in improving but they have a fundamentally flawed underlying design and need to fix that, the file system and several other core problems before they can stabilize the entire system.
Speaking as someone who uses all three platforms, there's a reason why Mac and Linux people make these complaints when talking about Windows. It's because it's fairly true.
Really points out some solid arguments about syntax and others things that alot of people have been saying for awhile.
If you put a stable platform on an unstable one, people who are unfamiliar will not realize that the new one is not the problem.
If you put a secure platform on one that is generally more insecure, people will still think it may have gotten a virus through it because they don't understand.
The only thing you are doing is getting people introduced to common applications like Open Office, Firefox and other more commonly used OO applications and there are far better ways to do this than with something that a common consumer will probably never use; if you want them to start using Open Office and Firefox, burn a bunch of Disks and nice labels and start a campaign on 'back to school' periods when everyone is shopping for their kids and college students and stand outside that Mac Store or the BestBuy handing out OpenOffice and Firefox CD's.
Yeah, Chelsea's going to kick my butt. Now we're both going to hell. ;)
What are you, sexist ? Not voting for a woman is obviously sexist. Obama is a man, so they're giving him some leeway in politically-correct land. But let's take a look at races, without prejudice : -> Race A votes 91-9 for the candidate of the same gender (and 25% admit that they only did so because of gender) -> Race B votes 58-42 for the candidate of the same gender (and only 2 guys admitted it had something to do with gender) Who are the sexist voters ? See how your silly argument works? It goes both directions. Now how about we talk about the issues and who makes the better candidate rather than who makes the better target for personal assassination because we can all be petty and belittling but it take a true american to rise above these things that would pull us down.
Are you sure you are looking for FOSS?? I think you would have a far easier time finding what you are looking for if you gave up on either the VISTA requirement or the FOSS requirement in this situation.
I sympathize on the 360. Microsoft decided to focus on games and put alot of time and money into it and it now shows. I think they could still do better because they are still getting shown up in several ways by Wii and in some ways even by Playstation (but developers aren't taking advantage of the cell yet so no one will really see anything for awhile). But they blew tons of profits trying to take over that market and now they are a dominant player... of course, at the cost of people playing on Windows. Which kind of is a dumb move. Because now that they pushed people onto their consoles, people play games on consoles and can purchase other operating systems now like Macs.
They should have kept people reliant on Windows as their gaming platform and the desktop as a gaming platform. I think the 360 is good but is pulls people away from one of their markets where they are dominant and puts them into another where they have to compete.
The other cool thing is it made it a helluva lot easier to hack the game and 'see through walls' and stuff. People have built some cool hacks for WINE supported games.
Well as you can see... for some reason, I got marked as a troll for even saying this. All factually based but for some reason people don't want to hear it. *shrug*
Seems like someone other than Blizzard would see the wisdom in supporting OpenGL and this expanding market
Its not the best approach for all intents and purposes (only 95% SEO compliant) but it has also enable a siwplistic approach for adding an all in one ajax approach and XUL compatibility really easily. Still I wish they would focus on improving XML parsing.
I don't know where you are looking because it's entirely the opposite on Amazon.uk. One of equivalent VALUE is more expensive. Check the specs on the machine before opening your mouth.
Maybe this was a stupid way of getting people to buy a Mac.
Richer? It costs less than a Dell? Elitist? Why does one have to be elitist to own a Mac? 48% of college students are purchasing Macs as their first computer. Are they all elitists because they own a Mac or because they're seeking a higher education? In which case, you imply it is better to not be educated and own Windows.
They are taking advantage of the current disatisfaction within the gaming industry with only having one option for a platform and are giving people a second option and an aditional market. Don't expect people to abandon the original Windows markt but expect them to develop products that are cross platform.
Well this time it would go over better because this time game developers are 'pissed' at Microsoft and have been moving to OpenGL from DirectX. That was one of the reasons why Blizzard chose OpenGL rather than DirectX; It wasn't because they had a big huggy fest for Macs and Linx, it was because they were pissed at Microsoft and hated DirectX. So they started developing on OpenGL and as a result have HUGE market!!! No one else can natively play on Macs and Linux and though people may scoff, this has greatly extended their market.
I paid $300 for my touch iPod and it depends on what you mean by low capacity. I can stream media over the internet to the device from Youtube or from a Slingbox. I no longer use the device as the main storage medium and now use it mainly as a second stage storage device. So what do I need all that capacity for? So I guess you are right... the touch iPod isn't in the same market; it's redefined it and left Zune in the dust yet again.
And now with the touch iPods having wireless connectivity to the internet, touch screens, video and applications, the ZUNE is even more a brick.
Yep. Problematic. Has alot of issues. Openoffice is at least stable even if I have to open X11.
Finally I don't have to launch X11 to open Open Office on Mac anymore. I look forward to the final release so that I can finally get everyone I know on Macs off Microsoft Office once and for all.
Regardless, I hope they shock the monkey that did this...
And I was trying to point out that my original point still stands.
Welcome to the 21st century where their sales mean nothing anymore.