As is often said, wikipedia can be compared to a sausage... its all good as long as you don't look too closely into how it is made...
Anyway, wikipedia is a ridiculous place with a toxic, almost fascist, groupthink culture. In spite of that, by are large, it is a good thing, and a useful resource.
This decision is idiotic. At the end of the day the message for the students is "Don't think for yourself, don't develop critical thinking skills, just let someone else tell you what the truth is".
Someone said the like of "Nothing can do what PDF does". I pointed out that Latex more or less does. Someone else pointed out I was slightly wrong, when it fact it is the DVI files that do.
I am not much of a fanboi for Latex, because nearly everything I have ever published (magazines and newspapers, as well as innumerable business cards and letterheads, band posters and cd-covers) had been done in postscript or pdf.
I think that I perhaps should have made it understood that my the title of my orignianl post was supposed to be "heard" in a black and white movie gangster voice. Oh well...
Now, as for "toast". Don't you think your taking this just a *leeddle* bit too seriously?
The resident genius of a old business that I was involved in was enarmoured of Knuth and Tex. I never had much to do with it.
I am reliably informed that InDesign uses Knuth's justification algorithms. Me, I lovesss InDesign (having grown up with [the horror] PageMaker and then Quark).
When the guys at FreeSoftwareMagazine got their first issue out and I had a look at it I was impressed with the layout. Even more impressed when I was told it was done in Latex, which until then I had only heard about from uber-geeks.
I have seen a couple of cute monte-carlo simulations done as postscript graphs.
Everytime you printed them, the graph was different.
Coin-tossing experiments and the like.
Very cool.
Is it or isn't it a stack machine? I thought it was. Pushing and popping and that sort of thing.
I see now that it is described as "multi-paradigm"; "stack based" & "procedural", on our favourite online encyclopedia. Where does that leave the conversation?
This requirement: to make documents (including images, and in some cases 3D content) that will look the same on ANY platform. ?
Tex/Latex does not meet that requirement? Is that what you are saying?
Like I say, I never used it, but if I sent a latex file anywhere, won't it look the same? I thought that was one of its major features... that and sensible math symbols and stuff.
And it is free software, and there are implementations for most systems.
So, what is your argument again?
Also, pdf is an implementation of postscript in a way (fuck knows I have distilled enough eps and ps (and prn) files in the old days), and ps is a stack machine language, you can write it with a text editor if you are insane enough, so its like tex in that way, to some extent.
"Linux has commodotised the OS. MySQL and perhaps PostGRES are commodotising the Database.
All the money is upstream. Larry's customers are asking him why should they use Oracle, when MySQL et al does what they want. Larry want to sell them his other mojo, and that is where the money is. Why support the database when a bunch of other people will do it for you."
But, yeah. There was going to be one sooner or later. There were questions about Linux that this suit answers.
Yes, it really is free. Yes, you can use it legally, for free. Yes, it really was developed without pinching anybody elses code. No, you will not get sued for using it.
Find a Score:5 post that really doesn't deserve it but at first glance seems to.
This is a problem with capping moderation at 5, and regarding that as "the best".
A better system would be to allow open ended modding, and then have your filters set up for things like "Top 10%" of posts, "Top 20%" etc.
All posts are modded up till they reach 5. So, at 5, you get good posts and not so good posts. The really excellent posts are also in with the dross that a certain segment thinks are good, but not everyone thinks are good, and, as you say, you are spanked for modding down.
Just get rid of modding down, and remove the cap, and life it better.
Slashdot Mirror
Ha! Nice use of "Sherilyn" ...
One did some research - http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Tony_Sidaway
Wikia is a completely separate organization.
Yeah, Jimbo... yeah...
Remind me again, on whose servers was this first published?
"Come on people, move along, nothing to see here".
you left out YHL.
As is often said, wikipedia can be compared to a sausage... its all good as long as you don't look too closely into how it is made...
Anyway, wikipedia is a ridiculous place with a toxic, almost fascist, groupthink culture. In spite of that, by are large, it is a good thing, and a useful resource.
This decision is idiotic. At the end of the day the message for the students is "Don't think for yourself, don't develop critical thinking skills, just let someone else tell you what the truth is".
Work out the size of the keyspace.
When you have done that work out how long it would take if you used every computer in the world.
Express it in terms of billions of years, and compare it to the lifetime of the sun.
Then get the cluestick and hit yourself repeatedly on the head.
a $2000 appliance that runs them locally but keeps all the documents backed up off site
Yeah, I have one of those at my office, we call it the Server, and there is another component called Unison.
Black leather lounge suite, but thanx for playing.
It's kinda hard to concentrate on typing and still get the subtitles of "The Seven Samurai", but I do what I can.
In the mean time, try this: http://www.getafirstlife.com/
There seems to be some confusion.
Someone said the like of "Nothing can do what PDF does". I pointed out that Latex more or less does. Someone else pointed out I was slightly wrong, when it fact it is the DVI files that do.
I am not much of a fanboi for Latex, because nearly everything I have ever published (magazines and newspapers, as well as innumerable business cards and letterheads, band posters and cd-covers) had been done in postscript or pdf.
I think that I perhaps should have made it understood that my the title of my orignianl post was supposed to be "heard" in a black and white movie gangster voice. Oh well...
Now, as for "toast". Don't you think your taking this just a *leeddle* bit too seriously?
Cheers for that.
The resident genius of a old business that I was involved in was enarmoured of Knuth and Tex. I never had much to do with it.
I am reliably informed that InDesign uses Knuth's justification algorithms. Me, I lovesss InDesign (having grown up with [the horror] PageMaker and then Quark).
When the guys at FreeSoftwareMagazine got their first issue out and I had a look at it I was impressed with the layout. Even more impressed when I was told it was done in Latex, which until then I had only heard about from uber-geeks.
I have seen a couple of cute monte-carlo simulations done as postscript graphs.
Everytime you printed them, the graph was different.
Coin-tossing experiments and the like.
Very cool.
Is it or isn't it a stack machine? I thought it was. Pushing and popping and that sort of thing.
I see now that it is described as "multi-paradigm"; "stack based" & "procedural", on our favourite online encyclopedia. Where does that leave the conversation?
This requirement: to make documents (including images, and in some cases 3D content) that will look the same on ANY platform. ?
Tex/Latex does not meet that requirement? Is that what you are saying?
Like I say, I never used it, but if I sent a latex file anywhere, won't it look the same? I thought that was one of its major features... that and sensible math symbols and stuff.
And it is free software, and there are implementations for most systems.
So, what is your argument again?
Also, pdf is an implementation of postscript in a way (fuck knows I have distilled enough eps and ps (and prn) files in the old days), and ps is a stack machine language, you can write it with a text editor if you are insane enough, so its like tex in that way, to some extent.
I never said dick about PDF. I lovesss it, my preciousss...
Just that it ain't the only one.
ever seen a program written in Postscript?
Stack machine, ain't it?
And the difference is?
To my knowledge, there is no other document format that is intended to work this way.
Errrr.... Tex?
http://www.latex-project.org/
And I ain't ever used it, but my friends here do their entire print magazine in it.
From 2005:
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http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=165697&ci
"Linux has commodotised the OS. MySQL and perhaps PostGRES are commodotising the Database.
All the money is upstream. Larry's customers are asking him why should they use Oracle, when MySQL et al does what they want. Larry want to sell them his other mojo, and that is where the money is. Why support the database when a bunch of other people will do it for you."
Will wonders never cease to exist! An truly insightful /. post.
I just wish I could beat gnugo... thats how crap a Go player I am. But I have nice magnetic goban!
Yeah, point taken. I don't know what I was doing... I forgot where I was.
Jesus titty-fucking H Christ on a bike fucking me sideways with a chainsaw THAT WAS A DUMB ARTICLE.
I am stupider for having read it.
As will you be. Don't do it.
Time goes by so fast.
[Aussies will get the ref above]
But, yeah. There was going to be one sooner or later. There were questions about Linux that this suit answers.
Yes, it really is free. Yes, you can use it legally, for free. Yes, it really was developed without pinching anybody elses code. No, you will not get sued for using it.
Thanx SCO!
I've twice deposited more than I thought I had into an ATM and had the bank credit my account with the full amount
And how many times have you deposited more than you thought and had some slimebag steal it?
If you are a fucking moron, and your story seems to prove it, there is a good chance you have done this more often than 2wice.
Occams razor and all that.
Non-story.
If you want breaking news go to CNN or whatever.
What this moron describes is the process of getting the article right. And it's done in public, warts and all.
Silly story. There are much bigger probs at WP. This is not really one of them.
Find a Score:5 post that really doesn't deserve it but at first glance seems to.
This is a problem with capping moderation at 5, and regarding that as "the best".
A better system would be to allow open ended modding, and then have your filters set up for things like "Top 10%" of posts, "Top 20%" etc.
All posts are modded up till they reach 5. So, at 5, you get good posts and not so good posts. The really excellent posts are also in with the dross that a certain segment thinks are good, but not everyone thinks are good, and, as you say, you are spanked for modding down.
Just get rid of modding down, and remove the cap, and life it better.