This is not the original Netscape code that is being open sourced, it is the current Sun Web server that has its roots in the Netscape Web server. I doubt there is much of the original code left.
what is not clear is that this is just part of Sun's strategy of outsourcing ALL their code. For example the Sun Application server is outsourced as Glassfish, Directory server is OpenDirectory and the SeeBeyond stuff is going into open source components of JavaCAPS.
Interesting the way the licensing is going, earlier outsource efforts were CDDL, then GPL, now BSD. If this keeps up slashdotters are going to have to find another company to bitch about.
Except that Sun DOES sell Java. Maybe not the client JRE, but the server side application server, Java validation and licenses and patent protection for OEM's - like IBM.
The webcam in my Acer Extensa works just fine with Solaris 11(nv104). As does wifi, suspend, sound and everything else. Out of the box. Win XP and Vista does not do that.
Wordpad is like Notepad, only it can't make up its mind whether to be richtext or plaintext
What do you expect? Wordpad is 13 years old now. Things can be very confusing at that age.
I would have expected a degree of maturity with age, rather than confustion. Like Linux and Solaris, both a little older than Wordpad and a damn sight more mature.
Try a recent version. Telnetd is off, and it install and runs nicely on my new Acer 5620 laptop, with NO extra drivers. It just works, including wireless and web cam (that surprised me, actually). Not even vista or xp work properly without extra drivers.
For example in Italy near the famous Vesuvius, Campi Flegreii, a couple of wells were drilled (between 1200 and 2000 m. deep) and the natural aquifers produced successfully.
The problem that eventually killed the project was that this superheated water and steam (250-350 degC) carried lots of very nasty impurities like sulphurous compounds and Arsenic.
Of the typical 25-35 mega Watts produced only 5 were actually available after proper disposal of the pollutants.
There is a significant difference between the media reports and reality. There is no evidence he has been offered a job with the police or anyone else. Police have explicitly said they would not employ him.
A grand daughter is an ex premmie baby that is now "doing it" once a week. I can assure you that when it has been "baked" for near a week it is a lot more ripe than daily motions.
Maybe because they were trying to make sure they beat Microsoft?
Or maybe they are just trying to deliver what users want? If so, that approach has been a recipe for success for just about every organisation that has tried it.
OS X is not linux, OS X is a heavily modified version of Unix(well BSD). To be pedantic, OS X is based on FreeBSD, which is a UNIX derivative. And I would not consider that it is a heavily modified version.
Yes both systems are based on POSIX, Mac OS X is POSIX Compliant. FreeBSD and most Linux distros are partly POSIX compliant.
My stock response to that sort of remark is "Oh, which versions of Linux are you familiar with?" Then gently lead into the idea that one needs roughly equivalent exposure to an OS (or App, whatever) before committing to the best one.
If the victim has half a brain you can usually make some traction. Otherwise best to just move on ASAP.
Try the Oracle and Sun Collaborations suites. Both have neat web front ends, and can serve to Outlook seamlessly. And the Sun product is no cost to use.
While it's much better than close sourcing the whole thing it's still really bad. To quote my previous post from the MySQL thread
Those using the community version won't be able to take advantage of features that could be essential for future applications. The problem is that we don't know what features will become essential in the future.
Here's a hypothetical. Imagine if a hugely popular DB closed the source on any new developments years ago before any ACID features were available. Then ACID features were developed as closed source and only available in the commercial version. Almost any large scale application would require the commercial version. What I'm curious about is why such different stances between the two products. One is heading towards openness while the other is adding more closed features. Because the stance is not about two products, it is about two companies. MySQL management has made it quite clear that the partial closed source has been their decision. Sun management has made it clear that they are committed to Open Sourcing everything, that they will not screw with the MySQL culture, but have hinted that the partial MySQL closed source may change.
Sun thought that Java was going to be the Next Big Thing, and so kept the language under their tight control to prevent it being forked by competitors or used in manners that they didn't approve of. That's the official story, and it's true as far as it goes. But it's not the whole truth.
The big problem has been Sun's corporate mindset. Until recently, key decision makers at Sun, both on the business side and the R&D site, seriously believed that they were smarter than everybody else, and had no need to listen to anybody else's ideas. That's why Sun stuck with SPARC processors so very long after it became obvious that commodity processors were the future — Rigghhht, this suggests they have moved on from SPARC (to commodity processors). I don't think so, SPARC processors appear to be returning all the net revenue so far, based on the high margins those systems appear to be returning.
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Sun's new 7000 series storage arrays use them, and that series runs OpenSolaris. So I guess Solaris has at least some SSD optimisatioons... http://www.infostor.com/article_display.content.global.en-us.articles.infostor.top-news.sun_s-ssd_arrays_hit.1.html
This is not the original Netscape code that is being open sourced, it is the current Sun Web server that has its roots in the Netscape Web server. I doubt there is much of the original code left.
what is not clear is that this is just part of Sun's strategy of outsourcing ALL their code. For example the Sun Application server is outsourced as Glassfish, Directory server is OpenDirectory and the SeeBeyond stuff is going into open source components of JavaCAPS.
Interesting the way the licensing is going, earlier outsource efforts were CDDL, then GPL, now BSD. If this keeps up slashdotters are going to have to find another company to bitch about.
Except that Sun DOES sell Java. Maybe not the client JRE, but the server side application server, Java validation and licenses and patent protection for OEM's - like IBM.
The webcam in my Acer Extensa works just fine with Solaris 11(nv104). As does wifi, suspend, sound and everything else. Out of the box. Win XP and Vista does not do that.
You make the assumption that the mime type in the email header will always match the content. What was your email address??
Wordpad is like Notepad, only it can't make up its mind whether to be richtext or plaintext
What do you expect? Wordpad is 13 years old now. Things can be very confusing at that age.
I would have expected a degree of maturity with age, rather than confustion. Like Linux and Solaris, both a little older than Wordpad and a damn sight more mature.
1 - Install recent release of Solaris /usr/sfw/bin
2 - Look in
export PATH=/usr/sfw/bin:$PATH does it for me.
Try a recent version. Telnetd is off, and it install and runs nicely on my new Acer 5620 laptop, with NO extra drivers. It just works, including wireless and web cam (that surprised me, actually). Not even vista or xp work properly without extra drivers.
For example in Italy near the famous Vesuvius, Campi Flegreii, a couple of wells were drilled (between 1200 and 2000 m. deep) and the natural aquifers produced successfully.
The problem that eventually killed the project was that this superheated water and steam (250-350 degC) carried lots of very nasty impurities like sulphurous compounds and Arsenic.
Of the typical 25-35 mega Watts produced only 5 were actually available after proper disposal of the pollutants.
It can/has been done. NZ has several successful geothermal power generation systems... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wairakei
Do the snapshots on top of zfs, and use the zfs snapshot capability. Works great.
There is a significant difference between the media reports and reality. There is no evidence he has been offered a job with the police or anyone else. Police have explicitly said they would not employ him.
A grand daughter is an ex premmie baby that is now "doing it" once a week. I can assure you that when it has been "baked" for near a week it is a lot more ripe than daily motions.
Ahhh, but there is a great deal less back pressure on a jet engine. Only about .25 psi, I think.
So the potatoe up the tail WOULD work!
Well they just might have been running a modern OS.
Or maybe they are just trying to deliver what users want? If so, that approach has been a recipe for success for just about every organisation that has tried it.Maybe because they were trying to make sure they beat Microsoft?
Oh, I think most of the participants here are very familiar with using self join or whatever.
And you think that no US Agency has the ability to trawl through Amazon's data repositories?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posix#Fully_POSIX-compliant
My stock response to that sort of remark is "Oh, which versions of Linux are you familiar with?" Then gently lead into the idea that one needs roughly equivalent exposure to an OS (or App, whatever) before committing to the best one.
If the victim has half a brain you can usually make some traction. Otherwise best to just move on ASAP.
Looks fairly clear to me that Sun will Open Source all of MySQL......
http://blogs.sun.com/tpenta/entry/jonathan_on_closed_mysql_extensions
Have you actually tried anything else? The Oracle scheduling engine rocks, as does the fat client. But it will fully support Outlook if needed.
Try the Oracle and Sun Collaborations suites. Both have neat web front ends, and can serve to Outlook seamlessly. And the Sun product is no cost to use.
But is it really ubiquitous?
This study (from Microsoft, even) suggests that open source rules, based on the numbers of "others" mail boxes and the lack of revenue for others..
http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/8/a/e8a154bf-cc35-4340-bd26-6265cdb06b6e/market_share_March06.pdf
Here's a hypothetical. Imagine if a hugely popular DB closed the source on any new developments years ago before any ACID features were available. Then ACID features were developed as closed source and only available in the commercial version. Almost any large scale application would require the commercial version. What I'm curious about is why such different stances between the two products. One is heading towards openness while the other is adding more closed features. Because the stance is not about two products, it is about two companies. MySQL management has made it quite clear that the partial closed source has been their decision. Sun management has made it clear that they are committed to Open Sourcing everything, that they will not screw with the MySQL culture, but have hinted that the partial MySQL closed source may change.
The big problem has been Sun's corporate mindset. Until recently, key decision makers at Sun, both on the business side and the R&D site, seriously believed that they were smarter than everybody else, and had no need to listen to anybody else's ideas. That's why Sun stuck with SPARC processors so very long after it became obvious that commodity processors were the future — Rigghhht, this suggests they have moved on from SPARC (to commodity processors). I don't think so, SPARC processors appear to be returning all the net revenue so far, based on the high margins those systems appear to be returning.