You say Mac OS X would not be there today if not for Linux and BSD - you are right.
This is the one thing that bugs me about Apple. They don't acknowledge these communities even though they are built upon them. For instance, they give out a free iTunes player for Windows but not Linux. That could simply be a market share decision. So too could be the reasons behind the lack of an "approved" quicktime player for Linux.
I often am tempted to buy a PowerBook and live part of my digital day in a Mac world, but this seemingly minor approach by Apple always turns me off and dampens my enthusiasm.
I often appears that on good way for Apple to get the OSS community on board would be to acknowledge that community.
Sir, We have for the past 6 years, been using RedHat on our web servers with great sucess. One of the big benefits was the low cost install base using the free RedHat line.
Even without the current change in your business plan, we had been seeing the benefit of the longer release cycle, etc of the Enterprise product. However our understanding is that we would now have to purchase a licence for *each* server we would like to install the Enterprise product on. Adding up these costs, it quickly becomes ridiculous and a non-option for us.
This strikes me as a strange approach. Why has RedHat not offered a more palatable migration path for companies like ours using your OSS? For instance, you could limit the tech support levels and charge a nominal fee for up2date on additional machines, but still keep this under single unit pricing. If there is not a good "middle ground", the jump in costs for us is too great to consider.
I would suggest they are *not* worth it. My wife and I discussed this in great length before getting married and we were both very comfortable not buying a diamond.
The reasons why we avoided them: 1. DeBeers created the "Diamond Engagement Ring" story. There's *no* other reason it exists. We wanted something with a more solid tie to our culture and history. 2. Its value is artificially controlled through the diamond cartels. This is less than it used to be, but none the less it still plays out in the price. 3. Their procurement has historically meant pain and suffering for may of the world's poor. Many have killed and enslaved under motivated by the greed for diamonds.
The idea that "If you really love her, you'll buy one" repulsed us both. No one could answer when we asked "why?"
As a result we decided we would do something that was meaningful for us - that tied us to our cultures and had a symbolic value that did not come from a marketing department. We bought each other beautiful gold rings - custom made with the elements we wanted.
With the money left over we traveled (Asia & Europe) to tie us closer to the world in a more productive way.
Sure, my wife has had some people give the surprise look when she shows her wedding ring, but that hasn't happened in a long time. In fact, most people admired our bravery. Since that time, we've come across tons of people without diamonds for engagement rings.
This makes no sense! The manufacturing of parts will most likely stay at roughly the same volume and rates of increase while car/truck emissions could potentially dissapear.
Remind me again how making incremental steps towards a cleaner enviromnent is bad?
Apart from finding some exotic tree in the amazon from which we can *grow* a car, I think we're stuck with incremental automotive innovation for now.
I agree with those stating that I should be able to run softward as long as I like un-inhibited - particularly when it's Open Source.
However, I would not mind if on install, a application asked if this was a security sensative box and would I like the software to update/time-bomb after a certain period.
There would be some machines where this would be nice....
Then again, the RedHat Network can do this for me as well...
But you can open Excel, Word & Powerpoint Docs in OpenOffice. With the new versions it has become very mature and frankly it seems like trying to continue to develop a disparate range of products when resources are limited is foolish.
I reiterate - Gnome should focus on the core of what it adds the Linux desktop. Those that were contributing to office apps should rather consider contributing the a leader in office apps like open office.
Gnome should stick to the GUI and System Tools
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Personally, it feels like Gnome is waisting a bunch of time on apps like Gnumeric when there are very well developed apps that do this available already. If gnome would focus on the GUI and creating great GUI system management tools, that would help it's desktop much more than a *very* light version of Excell!
OpenOffice opens and creates powerpoint files already.
Rather than develop a myriad of different open source office product, it seems to me like we should focus on a couple of the well developed ones and help them gain more momemntum.
Note: I have never used AOL; all their cds go in my recycling and hopefully get turned into something useful... however...
If AOL would implement the Mozilla rendering engine across all it's products, it is possible we may still be able to have a web free from browser dependent coding! It's the only way I can see this tide turning from the current state: "Please download IE 5.0 to view our site".
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You say Mac OS X would not be there today if not for Linux and BSD - you are right.
This is the one thing that bugs me about Apple. They don't acknowledge these communities even though they are built upon them. For instance, they give out a free iTunes player for Windows but not Linux. That could simply be a market share decision. So too could be the reasons behind the lack of an "approved" quicktime player for Linux.
I often am tempted to buy a PowerBook and live part of my digital day in a Mac world, but this seemingly minor approach by Apple always turns me off and dampens my enthusiasm.
I often appears that on good way for Apple to get the OSS community on board would be to acknowledge that community.
Sir, We have for the past 6 years, been using RedHat on our web servers with great sucess. One of the big benefits was the low cost install base using the free RedHat line.
Even without the current change in your business plan, we had been seeing the benefit of the longer release cycle, etc of the Enterprise product. However our understanding is that we would now have to purchase a licence for *each* server we would like to install the Enterprise product on. Adding up these costs, it quickly becomes ridiculous and a non-option for us.
This strikes me as a strange approach. Why has RedHat not offered a more palatable migration path for companies like ours using your OSS? For instance, you could limit the tech support levels and charge a nominal fee for up2date on additional machines, but still keep this under single unit pricing. If there is not a good "middle ground", the jump in costs for us is too great to consider.
I would suggest they are *not* worth it. My wife and I discussed this in great length before getting married and we were both very comfortable not buying a diamond.
The reasons why we avoided them:
1. DeBeers created the "Diamond Engagement Ring" story. There's *no* other reason it exists. We wanted something with a more solid tie to our culture and history.
2. Its value is artificially controlled through the diamond cartels. This is less than it used to be, but none the less it still plays out in the price.
3. Their procurement has historically meant pain and suffering for may of the world's poor. Many have killed and enslaved under motivated by the greed for diamonds.
The idea that "If you really love her, you'll buy one" repulsed us both. No one could answer when we asked "why?"
As a result we decided we would do something that was meaningful for us - that tied us to our cultures and had a symbolic value that did not come from a marketing department. We bought each other beautiful gold rings - custom made with the elements we wanted.
With the money left over we traveled (Asia & Europe) to tie us closer to the world in a more productive way.
Sure, my wife has had some people give the surprise look when she shows her wedding ring, but that hasn't happened in a long time. In fact, most people admired our bravery. Since that time, we've come across tons of people without diamonds for engagement rings.
Here's to competition in the engagement business!
This makes no sense! The manufacturing of parts will most likely stay at roughly the same volume and rates of increase while car/truck emissions could potentially dissapear.
Remind me again how making incremental steps towards a cleaner enviromnent is bad?
Apart from finding some exotic tree in the amazon from which we can *grow* a car, I think we're stuck with incremental automotive innovation for now.
I agree with those stating that I should be able to run softward as long as I like un-inhibited - particularly when it's Open Source.
However, I would not mind if on install, a application asked if this was a security sensative box and would I like the software to update/time-bomb after a certain period.
There would be some machines where this would be nice....
Then again, the RedHat Network can do this for me as well...
Actually, I believe a fix has been checked in and will be in 1.0. See: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40867 It's always good to check the latest status before passing judgement.
But you can open Excel, Word & Powerpoint Docs in OpenOffice. With the new versions it has become very mature and frankly it seems like trying to continue to develop a disparate range of products when resources are limited is foolish.
I reiterate - Gnome should focus on the core of what it adds the Linux desktop. Those that were contributing to office apps should rather consider contributing the a leader in office apps like open office.
Personally, it feels like Gnome is waisting a bunch of time on apps like Gnumeric when there are very well developed apps that do this available already. If gnome would focus on the GUI and creating great GUI system management tools, that would help it's desktop much more than a *very* light version of Excell!
OpenOffice opens and creates powerpoint files already.
Rather than develop a myriad of different open source office product, it seems to me like we should focus on a couple of the well developed ones and help them gain more momemntum.
Why do we need a calendaring SERVER? Why doesn't someone make a P2P Calendaring App for collaboration?
Note: I have never used AOL; all their cds go in my recycling and hopefully get turned into something useful... however... If AOL would implement the Mozilla rendering engine across all it's products, it is possible we may still be able to have a web free from browser dependent coding! It's the only way I can see this tide turning from the current state: "Please download IE 5.0 to view our site".