This is probably a horrible idea. I'm not a Debian developer, but I use it and enjoy the idea that I can add non-free to my sources. If non-free were to go away, I would probably not recommend Debian to a newcomer. I believe that Debian should support its users wishes(not the developers), and noone is forcing anyone to use non-free.
its part of a settlement of some sort. Intel gets access to AMDs work. Somewhere on cnet i think i saw that. I read it on the internet.. it must be true
The Debian XSF is a little anal retentive when it comes to the quality of the packages. That said, they do fantastic work and I wouldn't have it any other way. Much better than some of the other debian package managers who constantly have major bugs filed against thier packages. Honestly, I'm surprised they let it in without working DRI. I've been using the experimental X4.3 and have working DRI.
Last I knew, the.NET framework was only available for Win32 and FreeBSD. Has this changed recently? I dont really see a problem with Mono. If they can make it so that System.Forms works with GTK/Qt, that would be rather nice. I would imagine this would lead to tons of portable apps. Of course.. Maybe i dont understand.NET
Debian is a great choice. Everyone complains about the old software, but the advantage for enterprise is the long release cycles. This is exactly what RH is shooting for with RH AS/ES. At my company we have a mix of RH and Debian. The Debian servers don't crash for no apparent reason(seems to be a kernel oops related to swapping, dumb on a www server with way more ram than it uses).
Using debian for commercial stuff isn't as easy as it should be. Many companies don't support debian and seemingly have no desire to. One of those is Oracle. Oracle can be installed on Debian, and there are tons of docs out there to do it. In the end, if you really want debian, stick to your guns until you run out of bullets.
Another option, tell these companies you're gonna buy X dollars of thier stuff, but only if they make it run on debian on your hardware. If you're willing to spend a few million on Oracle, I'm sure oracle will make it work. The same goes for IBM. I know IBM does tons of software sales, and says they support RH/Suse, but theres no reason they can't make it run on debian.
I really dont understand why companies dont support debian(please no RPM vs. DEB), in spite of the long release cycles. IMO, it makes it the perfect candidate. Once something is released as stable, it will generally stay that release for at least a year, sometimes two. Oracle could begin to certify Debian/sarge now, and when its released they would have a deployment platform for quite a while. Hell.. They could even setup thier own apt repository with Oracle specific software/patches.
I dont have the source code and im really not interested, but how does one build the source for windows.. does it have Makefiles.. visual studio build files. I'm fairly curious how the build actually happens.
when i was a kid we learned apple pogo or whatever it was called and did small programs in basic. Is there any language that is even really comprable today? My console was 320x200 or something lke that.. Now.. its 1024x768. And honestly I dont think any kid is going to be that excited by drawing a box when they have games like half-life to blow up GL-creatures.
That said, look at libsdl.org and some of the toolkits that go with it.. perhaps pygame
what about the software certified to run on united linux(like oracle)? Does it still run on Suse/TurboLinux/conectiva? The way that UnitedLinux was supposed to work always confused me a bit.
These companies will be the only ones developing software if they actually choose to enforce the patents. IBM has more patents every year than any other company(like the last 5 years running i think), but I haven't seen a high-profile case where IBM went after Joe's Software Shack for IP infringement(doesn't mean it hasn't happened).
Yes, patents are evil, but mostly only when they are enforced, otherwise it's more of a "Hey, look what we thought of".
Isn't that what managers are for? It's not your job to inform CxOs that there are problems. Alternatively.. if you're looking to get into management, this could be your chance.
Make the first cirriculum more general. Discuss how things like SMTP,NTP,DNS, etc. work. Then make the intro for Linux/Windows mandatory and the rest for each should be optional. You shouldn't force a person into running an exchange server. Perhaps offer a class in "Alternatives" where you would show Exchage,Notes,OCS,Postfix, sendmail, etc. and compare each and thier benefits. This could pertain to many things such as web servers, smtp servers, database servers. perhaps switch the order of 203 and 303. Learn the basics of a network design before actually implementing one.
For the second, why are people doing development learning Exchange? Also, if i were designing a programming ciricculum, I would start them with C/C++, then perhaps Java, then C#. All the way attempting to avoid using something tied to a platform(ie Mono for C#). Another thing would be to swap Oracle and MySQL,PostgreSQL. Oracle is quite a bit more DB than most people need. Postgres is very ANSI SQL compliant. And honestly, who the hell uses ColdFusion anymore. And I could be mistaken but I imagine ASP will die also as more people pick up C# for web stuff. And PLEASE dont forget about PHP and Perl. PHP seems to be growing in popularity, and Perl is an old standby that can be used almost anywhere(including sysadmin work).
But hey... these are just my thoughts. I am not a professor. Also look at theory just as much as practice. The idea of how to make a Web script(PHP,etc) work correctly is just as important as the actual knowledge of doing it.
Why doesn't MS just have an archive.. a place where someone who needs a Win95 box(for some damned reason) can get IE5.5 or WMP7 etc. If debian can keep all thier archives.. MS sure should be able to. I still occasionally fix older system(for a friend who does foster care work) and it would be nice to still be able to get patches, even if they do not patch all the issues, it would at least patch the older issues for which many exploits may exist.
One thing i wonder about.. Will MS even tell us if Win95/98fe/98SE are vulnerable by a certain exploit?
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Should we be predicting the death of Unix or the death of the (normally) expensive hardware that it runs on. IIRC, owning SPARC hardware grants you a license to run Solaris, which last i checked could be downloaded for free. But its the SPARC hardware thats expensive. Sure you can get a SunBlade150 for like $2000, but you can get a really nice PC/average Mac for that much. If i could run Tru64 on my PC, I would(i know about x86 solaris and last i tried.. it sucked bad). For me, it is the cost of the hardware that will kill off AIX/Solaris/Tru64/IRIX/HP-UX/etc. I guess you can always ebay for older stuff, but its just not the same as that spiffy new box.
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This is probably a horrible idea. I'm not a Debian developer, but I use it and enjoy the idea that I can add non-free to my sources. If non-free were to go away, I would probably not recommend Debian to a newcomer. I believe that Debian should support its users wishes(not the developers), and noone is forcing anyone to use non-free.
its part of a settlement of some sort. Intel gets access to AMDs work. Somewhere on cnet i think i saw that. I read it on the internet .. it must be true
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Debian XFS
The Debian XSF is a little anal retentive when it comes to the quality of the packages. That said, they do fantastic work and I wouldn't have it any other way. Much better than some of the other debian package managers who constantly have major bugs filed against thier packages. Honestly, I'm surprised they let it in without working DRI. I've been using the experimental X4.3 and have working DRI.
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.. there was a story on slashdot a while ago about it i think
i think thats it
Last I knew, the .NET framework was only available for Win32 and FreeBSD. Has this changed recently? I dont really see a problem with Mono. If they can make it so that System.Forms works with GTK/Qt, that would be rather nice. I would imagine this would lead to tons of portable apps. Of course .. Maybe i dont understand .NET
Debian is a great choice. Everyone complains about the old software, but the advantage for enterprise is the long release cycles. This is exactly what RH is shooting for with RH AS/ES. At my company we have a mix of RH and Debian. The Debian servers don't crash for no apparent reason(seems to be a kernel oops related to swapping, dumb on a www server with way more ram than it uses).
.. They could even setup thier own apt repository with Oracle specific software/patches.
Using debian for commercial stuff isn't as easy as it should be. Many companies don't support debian and seemingly have no desire to. One of those is Oracle. Oracle can be installed on Debian, and there are tons of docs out there to do it. In the end, if you really want debian, stick to your guns until you run out of bullets.
Another option, tell these companies you're gonna buy X dollars of thier stuff, but only if they make it run on debian on your hardware. If you're willing to spend a few million on Oracle, I'm sure oracle will make it work. The same goes for IBM. I know IBM does tons of software sales, and says they support RH/Suse, but theres no reason they can't make it run on debian.
I really dont understand why companies dont support debian(please no RPM vs. DEB), in spite of the long release cycles. IMO, it makes it the perfect candidate. Once something is released as stable, it will generally stay that release for at least a year, sometimes two. Oracle could begin to certify Debian/sarge now, and when its released they would have a deployment platform for quite a while. Hell
I dont have the source code and im really not interested, but how does one build the source for windows.. does it have Makefiles .. visual studio build files. I'm fairly curious how the build actually happens.
when i was a kid we learned apple pogo or whatever it was called and did small programs in basic. Is there any language that is even really comprable today? My console was 320x200 or something lke that .. Now .. its 1024x768. And honestly I dont think any kid is going to be that excited by drawing a box when they have games like half-life to blow up GL-creatures.
.. perhaps pygame
That said, look at libsdl.org and some of the toolkits that go with it
what about the software certified to run on united linux(like oracle)? Does it still run on Suse/TurboLinux/conectiva? The way that UnitedLinux was supposed to work always confused me a bit.
Maybe Oracle will certify Debian.
These companies will be the only ones developing software if they actually choose to enforce the patents. IBM has more patents every year than any other company(like the last 5 years running i think), but I haven't seen a high-profile case where IBM went after Joe's Software Shack for IP infringement(doesn't mean it hasn't happened).
Yes, patents are evil, but mostly only when they are enforced, otherwise it's more of a "Hey, look what we thought of".
Has anyone seen a bluetooth trackball? I'd like to find one if i can and haven't seen any(dont need a seperate reciever though).
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.. but i like the selection
ive never bought
Isn't that what managers are for? It's not your job to inform CxOs that there are problems. Alternatively .. if you're looking to get into management, this could be your chance.
Make the first cirriculum more general. Discuss how things like SMTP,NTP,DNS, etc. work. Then make the intro for Linux/Windows mandatory and the rest for each should be optional. You shouldn't force a person into running an exchange server. Perhaps offer a class in "Alternatives" where you would show Exchage,Notes,OCS,Postfix, sendmail, etc. and compare each and thier benefits. This could pertain to many things such as web servers, smtp servers, database servers. perhaps switch the order of 203 and 303. Learn the basics of a network design before actually implementing one.
For the second, why are people doing development learning Exchange? Also, if i were designing a programming ciricculum, I would start them with C/C++, then perhaps Java, then C#. All the way attempting to avoid using something tied to a platform(ie Mono for C#). Another thing would be to swap Oracle and MySQL,PostgreSQL. Oracle is quite a bit more DB than most people need. Postgres is very ANSI SQL compliant. And honestly, who the hell uses ColdFusion anymore. And I could be mistaken but I imagine ASP will die also as more people pick up C# for web stuff. And PLEASE dont forget about PHP and Perl. PHP seems to be growing in popularity, and Perl is an old standby that can be used almost anywhere(including sysadmin work).
But hey... these are just my thoughts. I am not a professor. Also look at theory just as much as practice. The idea of how to make a Web script(PHP,etc) work correctly is just as important as the actual knowledge of doing it.
take that and shove it Darl!
Why settle for doom3 when you can continue to wait for the next duke nukem ... that should be out by the time my AARP kicks in
Why doesn't MS just have an archive .. a place where someone who needs a Win95 box(for some damned reason) can get IE5.5 or WMP7 etc. If debian can keep all thier archives .. MS sure should be able to. I still occasionally fix older system(for a friend who does foster care work) and it would be nice to still be able to get patches, even if they do not patch all the issues, it would at least patch the older issues for which many exploits may exist.
.. Will MS even tell us if Win95/98fe/98SE are vulnerable by a certain exploit?
One thing i wonder about
Should we be predicting the death of Unix or the death of the (normally) expensive hardware that it runs on. IIRC, owning SPARC hardware grants you a license to run Solaris, which last i checked could be downloaded for free. But its the SPARC hardware thats expensive. Sure you can get a SunBlade150 for like $2000, but you can get a really nice PC/average Mac for that much. If i could run Tru64 on my PC, I would(i know about x86 solaris and last i tried .. it sucked bad). For me, it is the cost of the hardware that will kill off AIX/Solaris/Tru64/IRIX/HP-UX/etc. I guess you can always ebay for older stuff, but its just not the same as that spiffy new box.