Ahhh, honey. Why did you just send me a photo of the mens room at your office. Doh
Actually, this is a fair point. How many people here have unknowningly made a call because they've knocked their phone or dropped it? You don't want to be firing off photos by mistake...
I don't agree with the poster you were replying to, but equally I am also getting a little jaded by misuse of the "First they came for..." quote.
All the groups in the 'First the came for' are just that - groups. Being a member of them is not intrinsically wrong, and hence it is right that you should speak up against their persecution.
However, in the case of the groups mentioned by the poster you replied to, it is intrinsically wrong to be a member of those groups. It is intrinsically wrong to be a murderer, for example.
Paraphrasing as "First they came for the murderers, and I didn't speak up because I was not a murderer", for example, rather loses the power of the original quote. You would expect people to 'come for the murderers'. You would not expect them to 'come for the Jews'.
When relying on the wisdom of others via quotation, please take time to understand the implications of that quote.
Rather than trying to get away from the desktop we should find ways to make it prettier, faster, more responsive, and more intuitive....
Err....we aren't doing anything. He is. He's found his way of making it faster, more responsive and more intuitive for him. That's one of the advantages of Linux - it can be set up more or less as you choose it to be.
For example, Linux is very heavily used in my house, yet both my desktop and laptop run XP. How is Linux used then? Well, in a co-lo Raq box that handles my web and email (web front-end), and also in a Tivo. Neither interface is 'standard' - the Raq has its own web front-end, and the Tivo's UI is totally geared around its PVR function. You'd expect nothing else.
What works for one may not work for another. With Linux, or more accurately OSs that seperate system management from GUI, everyone can be accomodated.
Datel, the makers of Freeloader for the Gamecube, are currently having problems getting the disc produced.
Their trouble is that Nintendo control the manufacturing process for the mini-DVDs, and Nintendo don't want Freeloader to exist. Consequently, they're blocking it.
There have been ads for Freeload for a while, but the release date constantly 'slips'. My opinion is that we'll never see a release at all.
Actually, in any field where you have enough specialization, there is a considerable amount of "targeted" speech.
Oh, I entirely agree. Interesting that you use an opthalmic example - my fiancee has been studying to be an optician for the past four years, and I've been learning some of the course along the way (in order to help with homework). Yes - the jargon can be quite dense, but it is used to describe information that cannot be put in an everyday sense.
Now, the language of Mr Jackson quite definitely can be phrased in standard English. He chooses not to do so - ex cathedra indeed, he's just talking about telling tales out of school.
So I agree that jargon has its uses. However, I would submit that plain English also has its uses, and that these have been sadly neglected by Jackson.
Agree with your post's facts, however we reach different conclusions.
The point RMS is trying to make in this case is, they wouldn't be forced into this choice if they'd used a Free tool in the first place.
...and the point Linus et. al. are making is that they wouldn't be 'forced' (choosing) to use BitKeeper if there was a free alternative available that was up to the task. Again - it works both ways. Your points are valid, as are mine.
And what is he, a scrabble champion or something? Do Judges REALLY talk like that?
In The Island of Doctor Moureau (the original book, not the film interpretations), there is a human/orang-utan cross which speaks in what he calls "Big Thinks". The Orang-utan's idea is that if he uses big enough words, he'll seem really intelligent.
When the book's protaganist flees home, he can't help noticing that most of the establishment (particularly his local vicar, as far as I recall), seems to be speaking purely in Big Thinks. I suspect our friend Mr Jackson is suffering from precisely the same syndrome.
I suspect that once off of the UK mainland our details can be used or abused unhindered.
But first they must leave the mainland, and that is where the breach of the Act would occur.
An analogous situation - I do work in London for a Swiss bank. Some of the processing involves trading counterparty data, but under Swiss law it is illegal to export this data to the UK. As a result, we get obfuscated data that is meaningless to us, but which the Swiss office can decode back into meaningful counterparties. In other words, the UK is complying with Swiss data laws.
Now, admittedly it's unlikely that the police are watching every internal FTP transfer. We could transfer real data. Doing so would be a crime however, so we don't. The same situation apply to India - whilst it's technically possible to transfer the data, doing so would be a breach of the law.
So...do you trust the company you're doing business with? If you do, then I would suggest that you have nothing to worry about. If you don't, well...
I agree with the general thrust of your post, however...
Mathematica, MatLab and the like should all be independently verifable simply by the inputs and results and also by the inclusion of results of those programs in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Ask me what 2/2 is. I'll say 1. Ask me what 36/12 is. I'll say 3. Ask me what 2048/16 is. I'll say 128.
Does that mean I'm verified for division? No - it means I have successfully passed certain questions. You don't know whether the methodology I used is correct or not. Now, if you were able see my working, you could tell whether I used the right method or not.
Same with open/closed source. I have no religious attachment to either, but it is true that the open source program lends itself to analysis of method better than the closed source version does.
Your friend Winky did the right thing, in my opinion.
Since becoming parents, cinema is the one thing that we (my fiancee and I) have had to give up. It's utterly unfair on everybody else, and it's also unfair on the baby. Everywhere else we can still go - even restaurants, because if our daughter becomes upset one of us can just go outside for a while and settle her back down again. But cinema? Nope.
However I think most network professionals are more concerned with keeping their network secure than "beautiful interfaces."
The point is that the two are not mutually incompatible. Grunge interfaces for the sake of is just pure posturing - and I speak as someone who does the majority of my work in vi running on xterms.
Cheers,
Ian
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Because they're idiots....This quote:
"It needs a beautiful user interface," he said. proves it
Why? Why on earth would wanting a good user interface make you an idiot? You'd prefer a bad user interface?
It also seems that you still get WAY too much *in the menus* which isn't useful for most people - it just overwhelms you when you're trying to find stuff.
To my mind, this is something Microsoft have got right. Not only is there not that much in the default install, but even after that under W2K/XP the items you don't use will be hidden.
I'd love that feature to come over to KDE and Gnome, subject to user preference of course.
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Actually, this is a fair point. How many people here have unknowningly made a call because they've knocked their phone or dropped it? You don't want to be firing off photos by mistake...
Cheers,
Ian
And yet still they don't release Quicken for OS X in the UK. And so still this British wannabee Mac fanatic can't bring himself to buy one...
Please Intuit. Please release it. Please...
Cheers,
Ian
All the groups in the 'First the came for' are just that - groups. Being a member of them is not intrinsically wrong, and hence it is right that you should speak up against their persecution.
However, in the case of the groups mentioned by the poster you replied to, it is intrinsically wrong to be a member of those groups. It is intrinsically wrong to be a murderer, for example.
Paraphrasing as "First they came for the murderers, and I didn't speak up because I was not a murderer", for example, rather loses the power of the original quote. You would expect people to 'come for the murderers'. You would not expect them to 'come for the Jews'.
When relying on the wisdom of others via quotation, please take time to understand the implications of that quote.
Cheers,
Ian
Depends....where do you want to go today?
Cheers,
Ian
Err....we aren't doing anything. He is. He's found his way of making it faster, more responsive and more intuitive for him. That's one of the advantages of Linux - it can be set up more or less as you choose it to be.
For example, Linux is very heavily used in my house, yet both my desktop and laptop run XP. How is Linux used then? Well, in a co-lo Raq box that handles my web and email (web front-end), and also in a Tivo. Neither interface is 'standard' - the Raq has its own web front-end, and the Tivo's UI is totally geared around its PVR function. You'd expect nothing else.
What works for one may not work for another. With Linux, or more accurately OSs that seperate system management from GUI, everyone can be accomodated.
Cheers,
Ian
Do not taunt Antidesktop...
Cheers,
Ian
Their trouble is that Nintendo control the manufacturing process for the mini-DVDs, and Nintendo don't want Freeloader to exist. Consequently, they're blocking it.
There have been ads for Freeload for a while, but the release date constantly 'slips'. My opinion is that we'll never see a release at all.
Cheers,
Ian
Oh, I entirely agree. Interesting that you use an opthalmic example - my fiancee has been studying to be an optician for the past four years, and I've been learning some of the course along the way (in order to help with homework). Yes - the jargon can be quite dense, but it is used to describe information that cannot be put in an everyday sense.
Now, the language of Mr Jackson quite definitely can be phrased in standard English. He chooses not to do so - ex cathedra indeed, he's just talking about telling tales out of school.
So I agree that jargon has its uses. However, I would submit that plain English also has its uses, and that these have been sadly neglected by Jackson.
Cheers,
Ian
The point RMS is trying to make in this case is, they wouldn't be forced into this choice if they'd used a Free tool in the first place.
Cheers,
Ian
In The Island of Doctor Moureau (the original book, not the film interpretations), there is a human/orang-utan cross which speaks in what he calls "Big Thinks". The Orang-utan's idea is that if he uses big enough words, he'll seem really intelligent.
When the book's protaganist flees home, he can't help noticing that most of the establishment (particularly his local vicar, as far as I recall), seems to be speaking purely in Big Thinks. I suspect our friend Mr Jackson is suffering from precisely the same syndrome.
Cheers,
Ian
Works both ways. Choice you see.
Cheers,
Ian
But first they must leave the mainland, and that is where the breach of the Act would occur.
An analogous situation - I do work in London for a Swiss bank. Some of the processing involves trading counterparty data, but under Swiss law it is illegal to export this data to the UK. As a result, we get obfuscated data that is meaningless to us, but which the Swiss office can decode back into meaningful counterparties. In other words, the UK is complying with Swiss data laws.
Now, admittedly it's unlikely that the police are watching every internal FTP transfer. We could transfer real data. Doing so would be a crime however, so we don't. The same situation apply to India - whilst it's technically possible to transfer the data, doing so would be a breach of the law.
So...do you trust the company you're doing business with? If you do, then I would suggest that you have nothing to worry about. If you don't, well...
Cheers,
Ian
(I don't, by the way...)
Mathematica, MatLab and the like should all be independently verifable simply by the inputs and results and also by the inclusion of results of those programs in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Ask me what 2/2 is. I'll say 1. Ask me what 36/12 is. I'll say 3. Ask me what 2048/16 is. I'll say 128.
Does that mean I'm verified for division? No - it means I have successfully passed certain questions. You don't know whether the methodology I used is correct or not. Now, if you were able see my working, you could tell whether I used the right method or not.
Same with open/closed source. I have no religious attachment to either, but it is true that the open source program lends itself to analysis of method better than the closed source version does.
Cheers,
Ian
Shuttle.
Cheers,
Ian
Since becoming parents, cinema is the one thing that we (my fiancee and I) have had to give up. It's utterly unfair on everybody else, and it's also unfair on the baby. Everywhere else we can still go - even restaurants, because if our daughter becomes upset one of us can just go outside for a while and settle her back down again. But cinema? Nope.
Cheers,
Ian
You're kidding - people bring babies into the cinema where you are?
I'd have 'em thrown out as quickly as possible. And I have an eight-month old daughter...
Cheers,
Ian
The point is that the two are not mutually incompatible. Grunge interfaces for the sake of is just pure posturing - and I speak as someone who does the majority of my work in vi running on xterms.
Cheers,
Ian
Why? Why on earth would wanting a good user interface make you an idiot? You'd prefer a bad user interface?
Cheers,
Ian
Yep - an excellent summary...
Cheers,
Ian (not anti-US, just anti-daft cheerleading in the face of overwhelming reality)
Cheers,
Ian
To my mind, this is something Microsoft have got right. Not only is there not that much in the default install, but even after that under W2K/XP the items you don't use will be hidden.
I'd love that feature to come over to KDE and Gnome, subject to user preference of course.
Cheers,
Ian
Oh yes...
Cheers,
Ian
Err...the ignorant poster before you, ie. me, is British. I meant that the British use the term CV where the US uses the term resume.
'British' is not a language, even if you use a small b...
Cheers,
Ian
I thought the phrases were interchangeable, with resume being a US term and CV being British.
Cheers,
Ian
Probably referring to 'the economy speeding up', ie. a faster and faster rate at which everything is getting cut back...
Cheers,
Ian