"Your ignorance is astounding and complete" Thank you for the kind complement. You must be a really fun guy to be around.
"If these kinds of issues make them give up then they aren't tech fiddlers. Just common every day dime a dozen users who like to think they're tech inclinced. ie point and click monkeys."
Maybe they just have a life and have better things to do that spend hours and hours trawling the Internet downloading source, searching bug lists etc. for really simple basic problems that shouldn't exist anyway. When your installer tells you you don't have any hard disks you have a problem.
When I was installing it 2.10 wasn't out and the bug wasn't resolved. I had to revert to the deprecated driver to get it working. Later I had to edit the Kernel source, which got the SATA_NV driver working (now that would really really scare a point and click monkey) before finally 2.10 came out, which worked!
Point and click monkeys would also give up when their system just freezes up on booting as with my rhgb problem. At least with doze there is safe mode, and you can even revert to the 'last known good configuration' which I have seen get a system working again (once, I know it can leave your system in a bad way though)
"Next time you post make sure you have at least an hour of experience beyond the trained monkey stage and try to at least pretend you have half a clue. I doubt you'll fool anyone though."
Woa thats a good resource. rhgb really needs to be fixed though, just freezing up is inexcusable.
It wouldn't help me with my biggest problem, with the hard disk though!
It's a pitty you don't get instructions like that as part of the release notes.
I don't see why the kernel NTFS driver would have legal problems (captive-ntfs is another matter.) It can only read but it's better than nothing. There is suppost to be limited write support available if you write to existing files and dn't change their size, but I'm not sure I would trust it.
Err, no the problem is with arts, quick search reveals (analog real-time synthesizer) not the sound system which works perfectly. arts seems to have it's own sound level.
Looking at the updates directory of core 3 there are gigs of updates in there. It didn't even install on my nVidia nForce system because of bugs in the SATA drivers in the 2.9 kernel. (It's fixed in 2.10 I believe.)
Installing the nVidia drivers (because shock horror I wanted 3D) froze then system on boot because of the rhgb red hat graphical boot thingy. The switch to udev caught me out here. Luckily I figured out what was happening and sorted it.
I also had weird sound corruption in some programs which I tracked down to arts. Turning the sound down in that sorted it but I can't find any kind of a config file, let alone a GUI application that sets a sound level which survives a reboot. I sorted it my adding an entry in rs.local.
Also why on earth don't they compile NTFS reading into the Kernel. (Captive NTFS would also be nice as an option...)
Sadly your average tech fiddler on the street would have given up with this pallava and installed Windows.
XP Installation went without a hitch and worked perfectly first time. It can even play MP3's out of the box;)
So for all you Slashdotters out there who think a Linux install is easier than I Windows install, well it can be. Provided nothing goes wrong. Which is unlikely.
Probably because he actually uses a tablespoon to measure it.
He might be from the UK where we are still very confused over or measurements. If they try to swap a pint of beer for a 500ml glass for example there would be hell to pay (and yes, they undoubtedly would use the smaller measurement).
I've seen all of the data on my UK bank cards, and to be honest it's not all the interesting or unexpected. What I'd relly like to know is what's stored in the chip.
Trouble is the majority of non geeks are idiots when it comes to security. Even some geeks can be lazy. The result is the inevitable "my computer is slow on the Internet" phone call, scumbags making money off dialler scams, spam zombies etc. inflicted on the rest of us.
Its the same principle as when driving. Consider everyone else as an idiot. That way when you come across one you're more likely to survive.
Sure provided you are on broadband. But if you are on a modem you are going to get pissed off very quickly when you have to download tens of megabytes every time you want to install some software. It's not like they can get someone to download the setup.exe and send it to them.
Even then you will be in trouble if the software you need isn't in a repository. They won't be too impressed either when their system becomes screwed because they have been downloading RPM's from here there and everywhere and their package manager is screaming at them about failed dependancies (typical non linux type response "WTF is a dependancy")./configure and make are laughable. You can almost guarantee they won't have all the required libraries installed or other software they must have installed to run the application. They wouldn't even know where to start.
Linux really, really needs someone to come up with a package format that includes everything they might need in one package. Proper simpleton documentation (that is actually finished) would help too.
It's death by 1000 cuts. Each transistor takes a miniscule amount of power to switch, but transistor numbers and clock frequency just keep on increasing exponentionally.
You end up with oodles of transistors operating in the GHz range so all those tiny switching currents add up to one big whole.
They may have them, but one wonders if passengers will have to pay a premium to use them (20 pound fee for entry to the 'premium' areas). I can't see all of economy class being allowed to crowd into the bar as soon as the seat belt sign is turned off.
I can blame rhgb for freezing up just because it can't start an X server. If it just failed and booting continued I wouldn't be complaining.
"Your ignorance is astounding and complete" Thank you for the kind complement. You must be a really fun guy to be around.
"If these kinds of issues make them give up then they aren't tech fiddlers. Just common every day dime a dozen users who like to think they're tech inclinced. ie point and click monkeys."
Maybe they just have a life and have better things to do that spend hours and hours trawling the Internet downloading source, searching bug lists etc. for really simple basic problems that shouldn't exist anyway. When your installer tells you you don't have any hard disks you have a problem.
When I was installing it 2.10 wasn't out and the bug wasn't resolved. I had to revert to the deprecated driver to get it working. Later I had to edit the Kernel source, which got the SATA_NV driver working (now that would really really scare a point and click monkey) before finally 2.10 came out, which worked!
Point and click monkeys would also give up when their system just freezes up on booting as with my rhgb problem. At least with doze there is safe mode, and you can even revert to the 'last known good configuration' which I have seen get a system working again (once, I know it can leave your system in a bad way though)
"Next time you post make sure you have at least an hour of experience beyond the trained monkey stage and try to at least pretend you have half a clue. I doubt you'll fool anyone though."
Not even worth bothering to reply to this one.
Woa thats a good resource. rhgb really needs to be fixed though, just freezing up is inexcusable.
It wouldn't help me with my biggest problem, with the hard disk though!
It's a pitty you don't get instructions like that as part of the release notes.
I don't see why the kernel NTFS driver would have legal problems (captive-ntfs is another matter.) It can only read but it's better than nothing. There is suppost to be limited write support available if you write to existing files and dn't change their size, but I'm not sure I would trust it.
Maybe he uses a portable MP3 player, not many support vorbis and the ones that do are not cheap.
Err no. These are my Core 3 experiences. I expect Core 4 will at least recognise my SATA drives, but I doubt any of the other problems will be fixed.
I didn't need one. Mind you my windows install CD had service pack 2, maybe that make sa difference.
Err, no the problem is with arts, quick search reveals (analog real-time synthesizer) not the sound system which works perfectly. arts seems to have it's own sound level.
Looking at the updates directory of core 3 there are gigs of updates in there. It didn't even install on my nVidia nForce system because of bugs in the SATA drivers in the 2.9 kernel. (It's fixed in 2.10 I believe.)
;)
Installing the nVidia drivers (because shock horror I wanted 3D) froze then system on boot because of the rhgb red hat graphical boot thingy. The switch to udev caught me out here. Luckily I figured out what was happening and sorted it.
I also had weird sound corruption in some programs which I tracked down to arts. Turning the sound down in that sorted it but I can't find any kind of a config file, let alone a GUI application that sets a sound level which survives a reboot. I sorted it my adding an entry in rs.local.
Also why on earth don't they compile NTFS reading into the Kernel. (Captive NTFS would also be nice as an option...)
Sadly your average tech fiddler on the street would have given up with this pallava and installed Windows.
XP Installation went without a hitch and worked perfectly first time. It can even play MP3's out of the box
So for all you Slashdotters out there who think a Linux install is easier than I Windows install, well it can be. Provided nothing goes wrong. Which is unlikely.
Well I don't know, but being the army they do have access to machine guns ;)
Naa, we all know Microsofts testing strategy is to release it to the public and see what happens.
:)
You save on the software testers wages that way
Probably because he actually uses a tablespoon to measure it.
He might be from the UK where we are still very confused over or measurements. If they try to swap a pint of beer for a 500ml glass for example there would be hell to pay (and yes, they undoubtedly would use the smaller measurement).
I've seen all of the data on my UK bank cards, and to be honest it's not all the interesting or unexpected. What I'd relly like to know is what's stored in the chip.
Maybe I should post it up on b3ta ;)
Yes, but bigfoot and aliens actually exist ;)
This isn't snake oil. They have pictures up here.
Mmmmm 11KV in a Petrol station. Mmmmm big arc's. Mmmmm big fireworks.
Trouble is the majority of non geeks are idiots when it comes to security. Even some geeks can be lazy. The result is the inevitable "my computer is slow on the Internet" phone call, scumbags making money off dialler scams, spam zombies etc. inflicted on the rest of us.
Its the same principle as when driving. Consider everyone else as an idiot. That way when you come across one you're more likely to survive.
I can go one better. I'll believe it when I see it in Oxfam.
Cut to overhead closup Khan style shot:
Noooooooooooooooooooo!
No wonder they couldn't find the star in the Jedi archives
Sure provided you are on broadband. But if you are on a modem you are going to get pissed off very quickly when you have to download tens of megabytes every time you want to install some software. It's not like they can get someone to download the setup.exe and send it to them.
./configure and make are laughable. You can almost guarantee they won't have all the required libraries installed or other software they must have installed to run the application. They wouldn't even know where to start.
Even then you will be in trouble if the software you need isn't in a repository. They won't be too impressed either when their system becomes screwed because they have been downloading RPM's from here there and everywhere and their package manager is screaming at them about failed dependancies (typical non linux type response "WTF is a dependancy")
Linux really, really needs someone to come up with a package format that includes everything they might need in one package. Proper simpleton documentation (that is actually finished) would help too.
Pits they didn't ban the sale and distribution of these games:
Freecell
Minesweeper
3D Pinball
Solitare
It's death by 1000 cuts. Each transistor takes a miniscule amount of power to switch, but transistor numbers and clock frequency just keep on increasing exponentionally.
You end up with oodles of transistors operating in the GHz range so all those tiny switching currents add up to one big whole.
It's suppost to get 95 miles per gallon PER seat (assuming perfect conditions obviously). Which to me is just staggering.
They may have them, but one wonders if passengers will have to pay a premium to use them (20 pound fee for entry to the 'premium' areas). I can't see all of economy class being allowed to crowd into the bar as soon as the seat belt sign is turned off.