I don't want to speak for the guy you are arguing with but really what makes you think that Adobe owns the word illustrator and that nobody else can use the illustrator in their product names from this day on?
Anyone can use the name as long as the product isn't a drawing program.
First of all is the word "Illustrator" a registered trademark of Adobe or the is phrase "Adobe Illustrator" the trademark. If the latter then what makes you think any body would confuse the word "killustrator" with the phrase "adobe illustrator"?
Well, I looked it up, Adobe has a trademark on both "Illustrator" ('97) and "Adobe Illustrator" ('87). There are plenty of other people that use Illustrator too, but its not a similar product to Adobe's.
If we were talking about Adobe calling their product "Megadraw", and KDE "KMegadraw", or "Lines123" and "KLines123", then you might have a point. But Adobe have chosen a descriptive name for their product, one that is completely generic and was already used for that purpose when Adobe used it. What would you describe a vector drawing program as if you wanted to sum it up in one word? It is nonsense to suggest that the name is not equally applicable to other products simply because Adobe used it first. That's abuse of language.
How is Megadraw any less descriptive than Illustrator. Both of the names say that this program is used for graphic work and that's it. Adobe put a lot of effort associating Illustrator with VECTOR drawing. KDE's KIllustrator is simply stealing Adobe's work.
There are plenty of words that could be use such as:
Artist
Painter (although that one is taken too)
Vector
Drawer
Plus a word could be made up like Vectorizer. So the fact that KIllustrator was choose as the name means only one thing, that the author(s) wanted to ride Adobe's coattails.
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A) Intel never has problems with yields
That's why AMD yields 12x as many GHz Athlons as Intel does for its GHz P3s.
B) Essentially (given the fact that they have 14 fabs or so) they ARE omnipotant.
Only 5 of which have been upgraded to.18 micron process. Now they want to go to.13 ahead of schedule with copper. They should be taking smaller steps.
I would also like to point out thay AMD has MEGAfabs.
C) RDRAM could be a problem, but Intel seems to have gotten that figured out, and besides, they could always use SDRAM.
They cant. They have a contract with RAMBUS saying they cant switch back. This is why VIA is more important to Intel then they like to admit.
The late betas of the OpenGL rewrite are extremely fast. I'm not sure if the port is just faster or if Be has really great OpenGL guys. It's probably a combo.
Bedepot, Be's online store, says BeOS R5 PRO has a PPC edition, but there is no Personnel Edition. However, since its an image it may be possible to boot to it using a third party tool. Macs probably have something like that.
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BeOS R5 Pro has a PPC edition, at least thats what bedepot says, so they're still work on that platform just not with computers using the new chipsets that came along with the G3s, G4s and the soon to be announced G4es.
The filesystem does support unix style file permissions, but Be doesn't have any real type of security because its only meant to be used by a single person.
Its not totally closed source. Besides using some GNU tools Be has opened Tracker and Deskbar, thevery heart of the UI under a BSD-like license. It actually has quite a few good applications. Gobe is good from what I heard, have to try it one day. Its got a few games and hardware support from people how make professional sound and video editing cards. There are several features that didn't make it in for launch too. A total network rewrite (BONE) , full OpenGL support and personnel Java just to name a few. They should come out as an update later on in the year.
Its not like Be charged a lot to begin with. Hell, I went to CompUSA the other day and Be costed the same as the deluxe edition.
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I believe it open at 8 and it went down to nearly 6, for it all time low, but now its hovering near 20. It's still has doubled. Yes, it has followed the Linux hype, but it isn't Linux.
This reminds me of a suvery, probably fake but who knows, thats says BeOS developers get more sex than other developers. I think it was on Be's web site which made it even funnier. Gotta luv those be folks.
Games can only increase accuracy if you have a pointing deivce that works like a gun. There are very few of those for computer and finding them is the main difficulty\ly. Arcades on the other hand have tons of games with guns. At the local arcade about 1/3 of the games have gun like controllers, 1/2 of those are force feedback.
Earlier milestones of Mozilla did allow websites to change the XUL, but that was becuase the security model wasn't in place. Now only local content, stuff on your hard drive, can effect Mozillia's UI. There have been a coupl comments in the Mozilla newgroups about allowing website to change the XUL way down the road, but currently its not a high priority.
Mail and News are applications built from Navigator. Most of the code is just XUL (XML), CSS, RDF (again XML) with a few backends to the network library. Mail and News hasn't taken up a lot of time. In fact the people working on it have helped make the tree widget work way better as well as drag-n-drop.
Instant Messaging isnt being done by the core Mozilla team, or anyone I think.
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I don't want to speak for the guy you are arguing with but really what makes you think that Adobe owns the word illustrator and that nobody else can use the illustrator in their product names from this day on?
Anyone can use the name as long as the product isn't a drawing program.
First of all is the word "Illustrator" a registered trademark of Adobe or the is phrase "Adobe Illustrator" the trademark. If the latter then what makes you think any body would confuse the word "killustrator" with the phrase "adobe illustrator"?
Well, I looked it up, Adobe has a trademark on both "Illustrator" ('97) and "Adobe Illustrator" ('87). There are plenty of other people that use Illustrator too, but its not a similar product to Adobe's.
If we were talking about Adobe calling their product "Megadraw", and KDE "KMegadraw", or "Lines123" and "KLines123", then you might have a point. But Adobe have chosen a descriptive name for their product, one that is completely generic and was already used for that purpose when Adobe used it. What would you describe a vector drawing program as if you wanted to sum it up in one word? It is nonsense to suggest that the name is not equally applicable to other products simply because Adobe used it first. That's abuse of language.
How is Megadraw any less descriptive than Illustrator. Both of the names say that this program is used for graphic work and that's it. Adobe put a lot of effort associating Illustrator with VECTOR drawing. KDE's KIllustrator is simply stealing Adobe's work.
There are plenty of words that could be use such as:
Plus a word could be made up like Vectorizer. So the fact that KIllustrator was choose as the name means only one thing, that the author(s) wanted to ride Adobe's coattails.
A) Intel never has problems with yields
.18 micron process. Now they want to go to .13 ahead of schedule with copper. They should be taking smaller steps.
That's why AMD yields 12x as many GHz Athlons as Intel does for its GHz P3s.
B) Essentially (given the fact that they have 14 fabs or so) they ARE omnipotant.
Only 5 of which have been upgraded to
I would also like to point out thay AMD has MEGAfabs.
C) RDRAM could be a problem, but Intel seems to have gotten that figured out, and besides, they could always use SDRAM.
They cant. They have a contract with RAMBUS saying they cant switch back. This is why VIA is more important to Intel then they like to admit.
The late betas of the OpenGL rewrite are extremely fast. I'm not sure if the port is just faster or if Be has really great OpenGL guys. It's probably a combo.
The Linux area wasn't that impressive. However, the Corel zone was kicking.
MathML isnt even compiled by default. The master plan is to have MathML and other features as options.
Side note someone checked in a ver good foundation for SVG yesterday.
Bedepot, Be's online store, says BeOS R5 PRO has a PPC edition, but there is no Personnel Edition. However, since its an image it may be possible to boot to it using a third party tool. Macs probably have something like that.
BeOS R5 Pro has a PPC edition, at least thats what bedepot says, so they're still work on that platform just not with computers using the new chipsets that came along with the G3s, G4s and the soon to be announced G4es.
The filesystem does support unix style file permissions, but Be doesn't have any real type of security because its only meant to be used by a single person.
Its not totally closed source. Besides using some GNU tools Be has opened Tracker and Deskbar, thevery heart of the UI under a BSD-like license. It actually has quite a few good applications. Gobe is good from what I heard, have to try it one day. Its got a few games and hardware support from people how make professional sound and video editing cards. There are several features that didn't make it in for launch too. A total network rewrite (BONE) , full OpenGL support and personnel Java just to name a few. They should come out as an update later on in the year.
Well, at work I use PII 350's and Office seems kinda of slow for me. Espcially when it draws the toolbars. I'm glad I don't use it at home.
Because its being hyped by everybody. Same thing happens in politics those who control the media win.
Its not like Be charged a lot to begin with. Hell, I went to CompUSA the other day and Be costed the same as the deluxe edition.
I believe it open at 8 and it went down to nearly 6, for it all time low, but now its hovering near 20. It's still has doubled. Yes, it has followed the Linux hype, but it isn't Linux.
This reminds me of a suvery, probably fake but who knows, thats says BeOS developers get more sex than other developers. I think it was on Be's web site which made it even funnier. Gotta luv those be folks.
I never really liked Macs, but I do like the fact that Apple has the balls to do something different.
Not food but color chalk. It over stimulates the students causing them to go crazy.
If we do this then we have to boycott ever company that has a stupid patent, which is just about all of them.
Games can only increase accuracy if you have a pointing deivce that works like a gun. There are very few of those for computer and finding them is the main difficulty\ly. Arcades on the other hand have tons of games with guns. At the local arcade about 1/3 of the games have gun like controllers, 1/2 of those are force feedback.
Earlier milestones of Mozilla did allow websites to change the XUL, but that was becuase the security model wasn't in place. Now only local content, stuff on your hard drive, can effect Mozillia's UI. There have been a coupl comments in the Mozilla newgroups about allowing website to change the XUL way down the road, but currently its not a high priority.
I misread it, sorry.
Actually it used to be video, but they changed it when "they" releazied it could be used for more than video.
I hate disc, why not just use disk
BeOS is not Unix. It is a unique OS that supports most if not all of the POSIX standard.
I thought that was a mini disc. Like the ones sony uses.
Mail and News are applications built from Navigator. Most of the code is just XUL (XML), CSS, RDF (again XML) with a few backends to the network library. Mail and News hasn't taken up a lot of time. In fact the people working on it have helped make the tree widget work way better as well as drag-n-drop.
Instant Messaging isnt being done by the core Mozilla team, or anyone I think.