So you just assumed that they'd put terms in their contract they couldn't enforce?
No, but the terms of the contract should be specific enough so that I'm able to ensure that their "technical measures" do not have side-effects that allow my right to privacy to be abused.
If they're going to use GPS - tell me that. If the GPS sends signals so that they know whether my rental car is parked in front of a church or in front of the Atheist Bedwetting Bondage-Freak Communist Party headquarters, I want to know that too.
If they just had an infallible, big red light that starts blinking when I violate the terms of the contract, without giving them any further information regarding my whereabouts, that's different.
IOW - my problem is not with their terms per se, but that they intentionally make the contract clause so vague as to be meaningless.
And having used Budget before, I can say that there is a cause in their contract that says "We reserve the right to use technological measures to enforce limitations imposed within this contract".
This is WAY too vague. What if those measures include attaching alligator clips to your nutsack that become electrified if you go over 55mph?
What if you're a senator and you're taking the rental to the whore-house to avoid detection?
Point being, they should spell out what those "measures" are.
How's this for an idea: you wanna break the speed limits or travel tens of thousands of kilometers, you buy your own car, and quit using someone else's car.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Here's an idea for you: How about the rental car company fucking tells me they're going to do this so I can be an informed consumer and select one of their competitors?
It's not necessarily a big money loss. When NASA first threw everything they had at going into space, the creativity boom was something we've benefitted from for years. Ever use velcro? It came about because of NASA.
Gee, and all it took was a multi-billion dollar space program to get velcro?
The space program is nice, but that argument has always bothered me. If there is a need for something in the marketplace, usually supply and demand are better arbiters of whether or not a producct comes into existence.
It's strange that most usa people (which, btw, love to claim they're 'americans' by all means) think someone outside the usa care about the fake 4th july thing.
Whatever gave you the idea that we give a shit what you or anyone else thinks?
(bonus points - be sure to use the words "arrogant" and "cowboys" in your reply)
This is what they should have done in the first place- go after the people who are actually doing it instead of making P2P seemingly illegal.
Amen to that.
Yes, RIAA sucks ass.
Yes, RIAA "exploits" its "artists".
Yes, the typical RIAA lawyer has the cold, dead eyes of a killer.
But if they have a problem with the actions of fileswappers, then go after the fileswappers. Do your best. But KEEP YOUR FILTHY FUCKING UNPRINCIPLED MITTS off my consumer electronics and P2P software.
Nothing beats when they came to my college for a.Net dropoff. Total retail value of what each participant got was over $1,200 bucks. Everyone got a fully licensed version of XP Pro,.Net Pro, Office XP Pro, for starters. All the departments were given XP Server, and the school got XP Enterprise Server
Whas it the intravenous kind or the smokeable kind?
Yes, remember kids - always treat the megalo-corp that strives to destroy, continually insults, and generally shits all over your favorite operating system with the utmost deference and respect.
I would laugh until I passed out if a few of the more "childish" among us beat the living hell out of the MS reps, and then chased their tripping, crying, shirtless nose-bleeding-all-over-themselves asses into the streets.
Just like happened to me and my friend in that puerto rican bar that one time.
If it wasn't anonymous, I would say it was Larry Ellison. He's known for stunts like this, but usually he does everything he can to pull his name into it.
That was my immediate line of reasoning too:-)
Maybe he wants to wait for a success before trumpeting his name all over the place? After all, if the conditions of the challenge are met, it would be legal at that point.
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Even better - read it slowly while in line before signing :-)
No, but the terms of the contract should be specific enough so that I'm able to ensure that their "technical measures" do not have side-effects that allow my right to privacy to be abused.
If they're going to use GPS - tell me that. If the GPS sends signals so that they know whether my rental car is parked in front of a church or in front of the Atheist Bedwetting Bondage-Freak Communist Party headquarters, I want to know that too.
If they just had an infallible, big red light that starts blinking when I violate the terms of the contract, without giving them any further information regarding my whereabouts, that's different.
IOW - my problem is not with their terms per se, but that they intentionally make the contract clause so vague as to be meaningless.
This is WAY too vague. What if those measures include attaching alligator clips to your nutsack that become electrified if you go over 55mph?
What if you're a senator and you're taking the rental to the whore-house to avoid detection?
Point being, they should spell out what those "measures" are.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Here's an idea for you: How about the rental car company fucking tells me they're going to do this so I can be an informed consumer and select one of their competitors?
Just keep my favorites here on earth!
at least the female pop singers are sexy.
STILL not worth keeping around. At least in space no one can hear you sing.
Gee, and all it took was a multi-billion dollar space program to get velcro?
The space program is nice, but that argument has always bothered me. If there is a need for something in the marketplace, usually supply and demand are better arbiters of whether or not a producct comes into existence.
I'm with you on that one. But every nation has its rednecks...
We have a winner :-)
Whatever gave you the idea that we give a shit what you or anyone else thinks?
(bonus points - be sure to use the words "arrogant" and "cowboys" in your reply)
For example, will I be able to shoot myself in the foot and get off the front line if I get scared?
Amen to that.
Yes, RIAA sucks ass.
Yes, RIAA "exploits" its "artists".
Yes, the typical RIAA lawyer has the cold, dead eyes of a killer.
But if they have a problem with the actions of fileswappers, then go after the fileswappers. Do your best. But KEEP YOUR FILTHY FUCKING UNPRINCIPLED MITTS off my consumer electronics and P2P software.
Whas it the intravenous kind or the smokeable kind?
I would laugh until I passed out if a few of the more "childish" among us beat the living hell out of the MS reps, and then chased their tripping, crying, shirtless nose-bleeding-all-over-themselves asses into the streets.
Just like happened to me and my friend in that puerto rican bar that one time.
Forget about it, they just came to shit in the punch bowl and try to get a couple school-kids high.
Oh yeah, gang rape is fucking hilarious until you're faced with the prospect of spending a few nights in jail.
But the spectacle of watching MS pay ransom money to Linux coders would be well worth the price of admission.
That was my immediate line of reasoning too :-)
Maybe he wants to wait for a success before trumpeting his name all over the place? After all, if the conditions of the challenge are met, it would be legal at that point.
And this is different from the current state of sourceforge how?
Now, those inscrutible Japanese at Sony are another matter :-)
I've always thought that Gates is secretly hideously jealous of the whole Linux thing :-)
Well, enjoy watching 24 hours of pure static.
Oh yeah, that old nun hag too.
So YOU'RE the guy that keeps yelling out "Ren and Stimpy!" in the movie theater! Sit down and shut the hell up!
- Ren Hoek
ps - amazing JohnK trivia: he used to date the divine Eleanor Blake - a.k.a. April March.
Didn't MS buy OpenGL patents from SGI recently?
For the last time - it's BSD that's dead. Man, don't these guys read slashdot?