Ren and Stimpy (And John K) Returning?

An Anonymous reader writes "The comedy duo Ren and Stimpy will be returning to our TV screens on TNN. Seems John Kricfalusi, the creator of Ren and Stimpy, has inked a deal with TNN to show old episodes, new episodes and at least one never release episode which Nickelodeon squashed because it was too violent." Here's hoping that its true- I wonder if John K will reclaim Ren's voice from Billy West.

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Oh my god

[RTFA Man]

they killed John K.

Cool, but...

[sirsampson]

will it have the ticker at the bottom. Such an amazing *feature*

pah

[exedanni]

I hate Ren and Stimpy because of the disgusting toilet-humour. While I am not easily offended or sickened I think R&S really is pants, although it does cause a few laughs now and then.

Re:pah

[mad flyer]

I fully agree, I can barely call this piece of sh*t an anime, it's just bad drawn pictures with no story, no characters, no analysis of whatever... you can't always hide yourself by saying "this is 2nd level humor" yada yada... this is just sh*t

Re:pah

[Grieveq]

Wow someone who agrees with me on R&S. All my friends used to love that show and I just purely hated it for the reasons above.

Re:pah

[ebh]

Yeah, and it's not even in Japanese. Suck-u.

T
HI
SWI
LLHU
RTYOU

Re:pah

[dirvish]

I love Ren and Stimpy because of the disgusting toilet-humour.

Re:pah

[Codifex Maximus]

Ren and Stimpy broke new ground. Where do you think all those new cartoons got their inspiration? Before R&S, most cartoons were either Hannah Barbera, Warner Bros, Smurfish or Early Anime styles.

New Raw Cartoon Humor == Ren and Stimpy - oft imitated yet never surpassed.

I like the episode where there is this red button and Stimpy ain't supposed to push it. You can guess what happened.

Or the one where Ren is so hungry that Stimpy gives him his very last precious piece. Ren eats it. Then Stimpy says, "Yep that was my very last piece of kitty litter."

Yeah, come to think of it... it is toilet humor.

Imitators (*)
Two stupid dogs.
Cat Dog.
Cow and Chicken.
(*) Copywrited stuff... blah blah etc... etc.. ad infinitum.

Re:pah

[Anonymous Coward]

analysis?? give me a fucking break. its a stupid (and really funny) cartoon.

fucking jap-cartoon-porn anime snob. suck me.

Re:pah

[Anonymous Coward]

You forgot "Rockos modern life".

Re:pah

[Anonvmous Coward]

"it's just bad drawn pictures with no story, no characters, no analysis of whatever... "

Err Who was watching Ren and Stimpy looking for sophisticated drama? Heh. We should hunt them down and tell them their screensaver is an epic mini-series.

Re:pah

[Sj0]

fucking jap-cartoon-porn anime snob. suck me.

Hey. it's entirely possible to enjoy both genres. Anime because of the dramatic and artistic shit, and Ren & Stimpy because it's just fuckin' hilarious.

Re:pah

[Anonymous Coward]

dramatic and artistic shit

That description has three words too many. Anime is one of the biggest elite-hoaxes perpetrated by Caucasian geeks attempting to make themselves superior.

There is only ever one anime plot. It involves one midget with a funny head shouting at another midget with a funny head. Why do they always shout? Why can't they talk normally?

The midgets then end up fighting for a bit. This is achieved by the animation style of a flat drawing with lots of 'movement lines' surrounding the midgets.

Oh yes, and then there's lots of flashing lights to give children seizures.

Re:pah

[Sj0]

That description has three words too many. Anime is one of the biggest elite-hoaxes perpetrated by Caucasian geeks attempting to make themselves superior.

There is only ever one anime plot. It involves one midget with a funny head shouting at another midget with a funny head. Why do they always shout? Why can't they talk normally?

The midgets then end up fighting for a bit. This is achieved by the animation style of a flat drawing with lots of 'movement lines' surrounding the midgets.

Oh yes, and then there's lots of flashing lights to give children seizures.


Wrong.

I'm not even going to waste my precious time explaining why.

Cocaine?

[Anonymous Coward]

Wasn't this guy arrested for drug use? I don't want my children watching a show made by a coke fiend.

Re:Cocaine?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ever watch the West Wing? It's not suprising that the most "liberal" shows on TV are created by drug addicts. The "liberal-arts" agenda in our schools, which allow these degenerates to propogate their crazy ideas has been way too flexible for my liking.

Re:Cocaine?

[RobinH]

I don't want my children watching a show made by a coke fiend.

Then don't let them watch it! Besides, I still think it was aimed at the University age crowd... something to watch while you're drinking a few beers before you head out to the bar in first year.

Re:Cocaine?

[flacco]

Wasn't this guy arrested for drug use? I don't want my children watching a show made by a coke fiend.

Well, enjoy watching 24 hours of pure static.

Oh yeah, that old nun hag too.

Re:Cocaine?

[Death_Angel]

Some cartoons weren't ment for children. Most of the new cartoons I wouldn't let MY children watch. They are all full of sexual content and hidden meanings. However that does not make them unfunny for adults.

Re:Cocaine?

[xjerky]

I've never watched the West Wing at all. I saw about 5 minutes of it actually, but I can tell just from that that the show is riddled with left-wing brow-beating. So, I looked elsewhere.

Re:Cocaine?

[stor]

> Wasn't this guy arrested for drug use? I don't want my children watching a show made by a coke fiend

What a great idea! You better investigate every writer of every show they watch, just in case.

Also, make sure that they can't get access to R&S anywhere else. Perhaps you should make a law that states they can only watch TV:
1. At your house
2. When you're home.
They are not allowed to watch tv at other kid's places.

Next step, stop your children from listening to music created by drug users.

The only alternative to the above is to remove your head from your arse.

Cheers
Stor

Re:Cocaine?

[Anonymous Coward]

I still think it was aimed at the University age crowd

It's pathetic that the best and brightest of this fair nation have nothing better to do than sit around watching cartoons. Like children.

Abolish state funding for education establishments. Make the bastards WORK for their education.

But.. it's TNN. Arrgh.

[ZorinLynx]

Yes, the network that puts a nasty black bar on the bottom of the screen during programming. Why is it that TNN keeps getting all the good shows? Star Trek, and now Ren and Stimpy?

I wrote to them a few times explaining how annoying that black bar is, but never got replies. There was even a campaign on usenet to send them emails but that apparently didn't work either.

Until they stop with the freaking black bars, don't count on me watching their channel. Sorry.

Re:But.. it's TNN. Arrgh.

[wolfgang_spangler]

huh, that black bar bothered me for about 5 minutes when they unvieled the "new TNN" (and had that week long 24 hours a day STNG...drooooool) but I haven't even noticed it since then.

I wasn't even aware that it bothered people, it's not like it is blinking all of the time or something...

Re:But.. it's TNN. Arrgh.

[yuri benjamin]

If they do start using this bar for banner ads, why not just stick something over it?
Stick a few bits of velcro on either side of the sceen and have a peice of cardboard with the bits that stick to velcro. Then you can remove it easily when watching channels with no banner ads.

Cable is only available in some suburbs in two cities in New Zealand - Wellington and Christchurch. You would have thought they would set up in Auckland first.

Re:But.. it's TNN. Arrgh.

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm pretty sure that velcro would violate the DMCA

Re:But.. it's TNN. Arrgh.

[yuri benjamin]

LOL

You can see it already on cable or DSS

[User 956]

Ren & Stimpy can be seen via cable TV or satellite. It airs on Nickelodeon (aka SNICK on Saturday nights) Saturday evening at 9 PM (Pacific/Eastern). It also airs Sunday mornings at 11 AM (Pacific/Eastern), though it appears that this time slot will continue with reruns. MTV is also airing the second season, apparently, but no hard information has reached this author. MTV showings are inferior to the showing on Nick, since they stick the MTV logo on the lower right corner and have more commercials. (By the way, SNICK has also started adding their own logos to each cartoon.) MTV also compresses the audio badly and doesn't start the show on time. Incidentally, MTV Networks, Inc., owns Nick. Apparently MTV is owned in large part by Viacom. On the marathon of January 1993, MTV didn't have the logo but edited the music of "Svën Höek" and most show's order of cartoons.

MTV has random airings of the show (see your local television book for times if any), and Nick had "Nick-Mania" weekend with 8 of the best Ren And Stimpys during the afternoon. Nick Mania for the weekend of May 8 and 9 had "SNICK Mania" so that R&S will be played two times, once for each SNICK. No more mass airings have been planned, but R&S were participants in the Slime Time Sweepstakes.

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[puppet10]

Don't bother. Nick butchered the origninal episodes and neutered the new ones they made to fit into their kiddie vision. You can read about the whole story of how it happened here (at least as long as the bandwidth holds out). Or you can try to find the same story in pages of links (or cached) from Google

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[Anonymous Coward]

It's about new (I hope Kricfalusi-) episodes, not only about existing ones.

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[theRhinoceros]

Viacom also owns TNN, which describes itself as "part of the MTV Networks family".

Funny thing is, this sorta looks like just another notch in TNN's "let's rebroadcast shows which were really popular in the early/mid 90's" belt, viz. ST: TNG, Miami Vice, etc.

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[Trinity-Infinity]

Well, I wouldn't say Miami Vice was popular in the 90s, were they? I was too busy watching ST:TNG and Quantum Leap to notice.

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[Anonymous Coward]

EVERY single time i am able to catch R&S on nickelodeon, it is ALWAYS THE SAME EPISODE.

im sure you know which one too, space madness -sigh-

dont get me wrong, its excellent stuff, but cant they show another episode every now & then?

Re:You can see it already on cable or DSS

[Anonymous Coward]

Even if it does suck, at least we still have the wonderful phrase:

"YOU EEDIOT!"

:-D

[mqduck]

Thank you, god almighty, for this, after so many years. *Sniff* I'm beginning to tear up. And maybe now it'll do stuff even "worse" than John K. tried before, seeing as it won't be on a "kids" channel.

-Jeff

P.S. Go watch the music video to "Fuck Her Gently" by Tenacious D.

YUO = FAG

[Anonymous Coward]

Get a mac.

Re:YUO = FAG

[Anonymous Coward]

That's true. If you want to be a fag, get a mac.

Ren and Stimpy on Cable

[Anonymous Coward]

Our digital cable system, Charter Digital get Nicktoons TV, which show Ren & Stimpy all the time, usually during the later hours. Usually all of the episodes, but I highly doubt Nicktoons TV will get the new ones.

-sponge

What about Rocko?

[xenoweeno]

Now if only they'd bring back Rocko's Modern Life, fixing the censored parts, too.

Re:What about Rocko?

[tinrobot]

Wow... I actually wrote both of those episodes. Well, co-wrote the first (Bedfellows.) Didn't even know they were censored later on... I remember pitching the milking machine scene. They loved it at the time.

The Ren & Stimpy people were always mad at us because we could get away with stuff they couldn't. it was because Rocko always played innocent, while Ren was so over the top.

Anyways - sad to say, Rocko will probably never come back. Nickelodeon never really saw it as a huge success. Interestingly, a bunch of Rocko crew members worked on Spongebob, their biggest hit.

Re:What about Rocko?

[xenoweeno]

Hey, neat. Thanks for your contributions to a great cartoon (when it was on)! :D

Could you drop me an email at your convenience (click my URL, see the "contact" page)?

OMFG!!!!!!!

[jaymz168]

I have been waiting for years, in vain thought i, for this event. What the hell ever possessed MTV to get rid of this show?!?! It's one of the best cartoons ever, it has creativity, style, and content. I'm sure that Ren & Stimpy will get massive ratings since all the kids that grew up on it are coming home from their 9ta5s and watching all the horrible bs that passes for entertainment these days. Well, MTV, in the immortal words of Ween "You Fncked Up!!! You Bitch!!! You really fncked up!!!!!!"

jaymz168

Re:OMFG!!!!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

You know that TNN is an MTV Network, right?

Re:OMFG!!!!!!!

[heptapod]

John K. was the reason why Ren and Stimpy was no longer aired on television. Halfway through Ren and Stimpy's run he started to butt heads with Nickelodeon management because of the content of the cartoon and more importantly the fact he was taking forever to create new episodes. That's why he no longer did Ren's voice and was only listed as a creator in the credits.
Ren and Stimpy was funny for the first few episodes but one would realize that John K. only had a few good ideas. The only shows I've seen that "ripped off" Ren and Stimpy have been Nickelodeon cartoons. Like the neanderthal, Ren and Stimpy were a dead-end.

TNN gets them because they have cash.

[User 956]

TNN gets shows like Ren & Stimpy & Star Trek because they have shitloads of money.

The network forked out a reported fee of at least $364 million for the cable rights to three "Star Trek" TV series from the 1980s and '90s, as well as five Trek movies.

Re:TNN gets them because they have cash.

[Rasta Prefect]

The network forked out a reported fee of at least $364 million for the cable rights to three "Star Trek" TV series from the 1980s and '90s, as well as five Trek movies.

The level of disbelief here when I heard that Sci Fi had been outbid by TNN for Star Trek was pretty high. I went out and confirmed the story in a couple of places - I couldn't believe Star Trek would be shown by the same channel that was showing Arena Football and Secrets of the Hunt....

Re:TNN gets them because they have cash.

[User 956]

TNN is attempting to broaden their audience (and fatten their wallets). It was created as "The Nashville Network," but changed its name to "The National Network", and started picking up more mainstream shows like Trek and Ren & Stimpy in an effort to broaden its appeal without completely obliterating its brand identity:

The changes come four months after Viacom Co., parent of MTV Networks, formalized its purchase of TNN's parent, CBS Inc., for roughly $50 billion.

Yesterday, Scannell made his first-ever trip to Nashville, meeting with employees for about an hour and 45 minutes. Hall began the meeting with an emotional farewell.

"There's people there I've been with for over 30 years," Hall said afterward. "It's like a big family. ... There should be a lot of pride in what they've done."

Nickelodeon veteran Diane Robina was named general manager and will run TNN's day-to-day operations from New York. Brian Hughes, senior vice president for programming, will remain in Nashville.

Since May, CMT, TNN's all-country-music sibling, has been run from New York by VH-1 executives. CMT will see no changes and will not pick up programming TNN discards, officials said yesterday.

TNN will unveil new, original programs next year, including movies and reality-based shows. By 2005, Scannell said, 50% of TNN content will be original.

TNN also will increase its ties to CBS, the only major broadcast network without a news or sports cable companion. In March, TNN may broadcast some NCAA tournament games, Robina said.

Some changes at TNN will be instant. A new logo will make its debut next week. And one of cable's highest rated programs -- the World Wrestling Federation's Raw Is War -- will switch to TNN, beginning Monday at 8 p.m. A show that will not be renewed is "Crashed", a sitcom one about the travails of bearded computer nerds who live in their parents' basements and pine over their imaginary girlfriends.

While many things will change, especially on weekdays, TNN will retain a few weekend local favorites, including the weekly live broadcast of the Grand Ole Opry and popular outdoor programs. Arena football games will return next year as well.

Re:TNN gets them because they have cash.

[XBoyAdv]

TNN is owned by Viacom, the owners of cable networks like Nickeldeon, MTV/VH1, and CBS. Star Trek is owned by Paramount, which is a subsidary of Viacom. You guess it, Viacom is a media giant like AOL Time Warner and News Corp.

wait, only expected?

[GersonK]

From the article:
TNN is expected to bring back series creator John Kricfalusi

It sounds like they may do new shows without him. Ouch. And if he does return, I'd be surprised if he didn't do Ren's voice. I'd be more worried that he wouldn't ask Billy West back to do the voice of Stimpy, on account of West sticking with Nick.

SPUMCO on icebox.com, that's it.

[User 956]

Last year Icebox.com signed a three-year deal with John Kricfalusi (creator of Ren & Stimpy). It was for three new series by John K, that term (until 2003!) Icebox will be the exclusive Web home for content generated by Spumco (www.spumco.com), John K's animation studio.

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!

[Qui-Gon]

Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!

Re:HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!

[slickwillie]

This gives me reason to continue living.

Mr. Horse

[KlippoKlondike]

No sir, I don't like it...err, actually i do, i like it very much.

dvdvdvdvdvdvd

[gralem]

pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!

---gralem

Boo

[SimplexO]

Boo. Hiss. I didn't like that show, and I don't like my little brother watching that show. It's too bad too, because I was just getting to like TNN, with their TNG Marathons and less and less wrestling. It dissapoints me that they would put this (IMHO) show back on the air.

Re:Boo

[Anonymous Coward]

Less and less wrestling? It's stayed the same since WWF moved there. Monday night 9-11ish, and Saturday night from 10pm-Midnight, with the occasional special thrown in. And, wrestling brings them their highest ratings, and among the highest in all of cable, so get used to it being there.

Re:Boo

[stor]

Yeah, R&S is so damn low-brow compared to the wrestling.

Cheers
Stor

Re:Boo

[jub]

boo hiss to the wrestling... it's all fake, man... not flesh and blood like WE!!!!

Beavis & Butthead

[PhilipChapman]

Now all TNN needs is to get Beavis and Butthead, get rid of that annoying black bar and it would be the only channel I'd watch.

Re:Beavis & Butthead

[Peyna]

Does TNN play anything besides star trek marathons?

Re:Beavis & Butthead

[Servo5678]

Does TNN play anything besides star trek marathons?

Now, I know that it seems like all TNN airs are Star Trek: TNG marathons, but take heart! The future is bringing major changes as TNN acquires the rights to other programming.

Stay tuned next year for marathons of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and in 2006 be ready for marathons of Star Trek: Voyager.

So don't worry - TNN's not all Star Trek: TNG ;-)

Re:Beavis & Butthead

[KingoftheEvilDead]

Yeah, cut versions of movies, the A-Team, Miami Vice and of course, Wrassling by Vince McMahon. Now you know you're dealing with a classy channel.

Re:Beavis & Butthead

[MsGeek]

Beavis & Butt-Head IS coming to TNN.

Also, the Spumco R&S episodes TNN will be showing will be restored to "director's cut" status. And "Man's Best Friend," the legendary "lost R&S episode" will get its broadcast premiere when R&S returns to the air on TNN.

Spumco has been tapped for 9 new episodes. They will probably be produced in Canada.

This is really kick-ass news, because September will mark the 10th anniversary of when Nickelodeon basically removed the creators of R&S from their creation.

Justice, man...justice.

Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[GdoL]

I really never saw the value on this serie? What is that kicks you? The design? The dialog? The "violence"? The nonsense?

Is there any originality on this serie?Where?

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[ebh]

That animation style (if not the content) was the prototype for half the cartoons on TV today, including SpongeBob. (The first time I stumbled onto SpongeBob, my instant reaction was, "Is John K. doing another series?")

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[lungofish]

You do realize that this show is 10 years old, right?

It was very original when it came out, for the first season, anyway.

After John K. was fired/left the show it went downhill very, very quickly. It didn't so much go downhill as it just dropped off a cliff, actually.

I suspect a lot of the people here complaining about it saw later episodes, from the time when the new writers realized they couldn't be funny, so they just went for the five year old gross out humor (which the good episodes had, but they didn't rely on it).

However, if you can watch "Space Madness" and not laugh your ass off, there is something horribly wrong with your brain and you should probably have it removed.

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[wolfgang_spangler]

I've gotta agree, The only thing I've ever seen that I liked of Ren/Stimpy was the log song.

Other than that I think it's a pretty stupid cartoon show, I'd much rather they brought back D&D

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[BitwizeGHC]

"Yit's de funnest game in de yole vide yorld!"

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

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Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[slickwillie]

If you don't get it then you don't get it. Move along, nothing for you here. Try the Disney channel.

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[GdoL]

Yep. Probably the worse things stay in memory so I probably don't remember seen the best or actually never saw them.

Re:Ren & Stimpy? Why?

[GdoL]

Have you seem Disney last movies? Great techniques are born there and some big computer related stuff too.

If you want to see real good animation stuff, rent a movies and see the last European stuff. Just great!!

So don't watch it -- problem solved.

[ZorinLynx]

If you don't like something, don't watch it. It's as simple as that.

Don't deny other people the pleasure of watching it just because YOU don't like it. Change the channel, that's what that "remote control" thing is for.

ZIM!

[Anonymous Coward]

But what about INVADER ZIM!?!? R&S being revived gives me hope that somebody will pick Zim up again.

Zim, of course, was trashed partly for being "too violent" in the wake of Sept 11th. It is similar in nature to R&S, but more obsure. And it's from Jhonen V's crazy good mind.

As for R&S: I just hope they pick R&S season 1 as the benchmark and model any new material after that - 'cos it went seriously downhill after the first season.

*Grumbles*

[Anonvmous Coward]

The guy who does the voices of Ren and Stimpy (Billy West?) is also the voice for Fry in Futurama.

Part of me wonders if we messed up our petition to get Futurama back and got Ren and Stimpy back instead. You eeeeeeeeeeeeediots!

Re:*Grumbles*

[goldfndr]

He does lots of other shows too.

Re:*Grumbles*

[MsGeek]

John K. did the voice of Ren Hoek.
Billy West did the voice of Stimpy.

That is, John K. did the voice of Ren Hoek up until Nickelodeon seized R&S from Spumco and set up a company-controlled production team, Games Animation, to churn out fake R&S episodes. Billy West originally promised Spumco he'd stand with them against Nickelodeon, then basically stabbed his co-workers in the back when he was lured to Games Animation.

If you've ever seen a Games Animation Ren & Stimpy episode, you know how badly Billy West did Ren.

God

[Anonymous Coward]

that show sucked. Shows what "taste" cmdrtaco has...

When approached for comment

[sam_handelman]

We talked to two other retired members of MTV's production team, who insisted on anonymity.

Man #1: Yeah, it was great, they'd be all like [wren voice] "Space Madness," and then, all the chicks watching would go crazy and they'd flash their boobs. I'd totally score! Heh heh, heh heh.
Man #2: Shut up, fart knocker, that's not what happened. [Smacks other interviewee in the back of the head.] Cause, like, it's on Kid's TV and kids don't have boobs. Heh heh, heh heh.
Man #1: Oh yeah. [Joins in laughter.]

Don't you know

[yellowstone]

cartoons will ruin your mind?

Look what it's done to your brain!

Re:Don't you know

[Anonymous Coward]

"Image hosed by tripod"

What eeeeeeeis it man?!!!

Re:Don't you know

[Anonymous Coward]

...and cyclists... they seem to be everywhere....

...right here in neurotica... so loooong...

...great sig!

thank god ...

[siliconwafer]

I saw the title of this story and thought that it was a John Katz article ... whew ;)

Re:thank god ...

[jcoy42]

I saw the title of this story and thought that it was a John Katz article ...

(You can block John Katz via preferences)

When I saw this article, my first thought was "Hey- maybe Mr. Katz is going away!"

For one fleeting moment, I was filled with glee..

John K's lost it

[nornradd]

Has anybody seen Boo Boo Runs Wild or the Jetsons that were on adult swim? I loved George Liquor and Jimmy the Idiotboy but his cartoon network hannah barbara shorts are truly unfunny. I haven't had a chance to see The Ripping Friends but I hope if he does commit to newer episodes he actually injects some humor into them.

The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen

[grendelkhan]

IMHO, without a doubt the best animated and written episode ever, beating even Space Madness and The Happy Helmet. The final shot of the musical number with all the woodland creatures singing, and a disembodied large intestine flying up into the air with a turd shooting out of one end had me clutching my stomach in pain from the laughter.

Re:The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah! Nothing's as funny as ca-ca jokes!

ca-ca!

Re:The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen

[fiftyfly]

*sniff* one Canada Day 'eve too, isn't it just *sniff* beautifull?

Re:The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen

[SparkyMartin]

Oh I forgot about those episodes until I read this, by crikey! Happy Happy Joy Joy!

HOLY JEEZ YES!

[Anonymous Coward]

Ren and Stimpy are like the red-headed stepchildren of Cartoons. I once read an interview where Kricfalusi described working on the Heathcliff animated cartoon series in his early days of animation. He said "It was the worst years of my life...Bad pay, shitty animation...No wonder they moved these things to korea where the sweatshop labor could actually be done in a suitable location." or something to that effect. It's no wonder Kricfalusi is so disenfranchised with TV animation. Look what Nick did to him.

Yes this is true...

[Kalgash]

And in the process John K will be opening SpumCo North in Ottawa, Ontario. We have a goodly number of animators up here and one of my buddy has already worked with John K on the Ripping Friends and will be working on the new R&S.

Re:Yes this is true...

[MsGeek]

John K. is Canadian, and grew up in Ontario. This is not a "runaway production" because John is actually coming home to do this.

Hopefully people like Bob Jaques and Karen Armstrong will be working on the new R&S episodes...they rock.

The Needs of the One outweigh all else!?

[ZooB]

SARCASM=ON

We should definitely all campaign to fight the corporate tyranny of the EVIL TNN empire! Get rid of Ren and Stimpy forever!!! Burn the footage in the vaults! Burn the books while we're at it! Let us all make a conserted effort to abolish everything in life that offends even one person...

SARCASM=OFF

Seriously, if you don't like the program, then perhaps you should not watch the program. This, of course, would be the decision a rational person would make instead of rallying the "ignorant" brigade to come and protest at a moments notice. It's just a cartoon. Not legalized murder! Sheesh...

its amazing

[BenTheDewpendent]

that nick' played the show in the 1st place.

but thats not to say im not gald its gonna be back on cause i am.

Re:its amazing

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, they have a lot of gall.

Yet again...

[Ubi_UK]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

When a post concerns something that is only applicable to the US it should:
a) be filed under 'US'
b) at least *mention* the topic concerns only the US.

Now mod me down as anti-american flamebait or whatever. I've got karma to burn for this.

Re:Yet again...

[Anonymous Coward]

But, of course, you don't believe this should happen to stories that concern the 'UK'.

Move along, troll. I bet you think you're at the center of the fucking universe, too.

Re:Yet again...

[daeley]

When a post concerns something that is only applicable to the US it should:
a) be filed under 'US'
b) at least *mention* the topic concerns only the US.

To quote Ren: "Get outside! It's too nice a day to be stupid indoors!!"

Re:Yet again...

[Anonymous Coward]

Please, did you really have to waste the time to click the link of this topic and come on here to post? If it dosn't concern you, then don't look. God or whoever you believe in gave you moveable eyes and CMDRtaco or whoever the hell runs this website gave you checkboxes to change what pops up. Just don't look.

Re:Yet again...

[Anonymous Coward]

blow it out your bloody bum

Re: Be Thankful

[unixfd0]

Up here in igloo land (Canada), if TNN doesn't have the rights/permission (money/incentive) to broadcast up here...all we get is the local cable/satellite blackout screen.

You guys think you have it bad...look into Canada's CRTC (our local government oppression office :P). I'd be really happy to see that black bar...

Get used to the 'black bars'

[nurb432]

Its just a prelude to future banner ads, since we all fastforward thru commercials.

Its not going away, in time all tv will have it, so best get used to it now and quit your bitchin..

Lately other cable channels are trying it too, ive noticed...

Re:Get used to the 'black bars'

[Anonymous Coward]

Great... as soon as they all start doing it, I can cover that part of my screen up with a black piece of tape.

Re:Get used to the 'black bars'

[Dimensio]

Great...so in order to increase ad revenue they will distort and deform the TV picture. It won't be so bad when everything is filmed wide (and I can just hit "zoom" on my TV), but Star Trek looks awful with everything so squashed.

Welcome back Ren and Stimpy

[totallygeek]

I loved Ren and Stimpy "back in the day". One of their episodes was the basis for naming my website, Missing Left Socks. As for the people that won't watch it because of the black bar at the bottom of the screen -- why is it they have no problem watching letterbox movies? It is just rediculous.

Re:Welcome back Ren and Stimpy

[Mark J Tilford]

The difference is simple:

In the case of letterbox movies, the black bars are there because there was nothing there in the original film.

In the case of TNN's showings, it appears from other comments (I've never watched that channel myself) that it covers up picture that was in the original broadcast.

Re:Welcome back Ren and Stimpy

[wils0n]

The problem with the black bar is that they squeeze the picture rather than just layering the bar over the frame (at least on ST:TNG). When I have to watch captain picard this way it becomes unbearable and I would just rather get out the DVD.

Re:Welcome back Ren and Stimpy

[Anonymous Coward]

No, the picture is slightly squashed with the black bar. Means everybody looks a bit chunkier. Personally, I don't notice it much, except on Deanna Troi when in the lavender jump suit.

Re:Welcome back Ren and Stimpy

[ImaLamer]

I say fsck the people who won't watch TNN because of the bar.

They have some great shows, of course TNG.. but other ones I hate to admit like Kate & Alley.

I thought it was cool that on an episode talking about college they were giving the acceptance rates at the bottom...

...knowledge is cool.

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woogida!

[KanSer]

"The little critters of nature, they don't know that they're ugly. That's
very funny. A fly marrying a bumblebee. I told you I'd shoot. But you
didn't believe me! Why didn't you believe me?!"
--Stinky Wizzleteeth

-

It's so great to see one of my favorite shows of all time come back. They were pure genius and few things make me laugh as hard.

Incidentally, I like the blackbar on TNN, but I'm a big news junkie so I'm completely used to my "Tickers" and such. It's not so bad to go to that channel and know EXACTLY what is happening. I like that, and as long as people like me continue to like it, it isn't leaving.

... As for people worrying about TNN being an "evil empire", you are just nucking futs. TNN has ditched it's souther redneck programming because it realises what we want to watch. It's programming is just getting better and better and it is simply poising itself to kick some ass simply because they listen to people and not fucking retarded focus groups. If anything, Nickelodeon are the assholes who fired John K, and continued to try and ruin the show. Look at the shit they run now, think back 5 years and remember how cool the station used to be.

TNN is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. If only they would ditch Wrestling for some gaming news like that latenight TBS show. (Pacific time zone rules, its on at 11:00 :D)

Re:woogida!

[BitwizeGHC]

It's Stinky Wizzleteats.

"I don't think you're happy enough! I'll teach you to be happy! I'll teach yur grandmother to suck eggs! Now, boys and girls, let's try it again!"

Re:woogida!

[Cuthalion]

Nickelodeon is showing Invader Zim, however. That redeems them significantly, IMO.

Re:woogida!

[Anonymous Coward]

Mmmm, I'm pretty neutral on TNN for the most part. Every so often I'm by that channel and notice them playing ST:TNG reruns, which is cool since my locals have dropped all ST programming since Voyager went off like the stinkbomb that it was. Hasn't been enough to make me want to tune to it, but...

The change from The Nashville Network to the new TNN (aka USA network clone) had little to do with them ditching their programming. No, seriously. The change followed their acquisition by Viacom, which owns MTV, Nick, Paramount, Showtime, The Movie Channel, Simon & Schuster, (most) Six Flags theme parks, CBS, and god knows what else they've acquired while I was typing that out.

Viacom simply shifted all their "hit" (cough) shows over to their country channel (the name of which escapes me, but I just woke up and haven't had coffee, so forgive me), which left them with a whole channel to populate with Viacom-owned media.

So TNN is owned by an evil empire (one that's controlled with an iron fist by "Unkie Sumner" - Sumner Redstone to non-ex-employees), and a growing one at that. Certainly not as evil as the Redmond empire, but a media conglomerate nonetheless.

Also keep in mind that the idiots who ruined Nick are most likely still employed within Viacom, promoted even (politics there are the worst I've ever seen), and may yet start meddling with TNN - it's still young enough in the Viacom realm that the nogoodniks want nothing to do with it (might result in failure, much like Nick was before it got established - then they latched on).

BTW, Viacom lives and dies by focus group tested. Everything, on every level, gets focus group testing. We got acquired and suddenly everything had to go in front of focus groups - kids, eating sugary snacks, and sugary soda, getting wired off their gourds, suddendly became the arbitrators of our software's existance. Scary, scary shit...

Re:woogida!

[The G Man]

OTOH, they have canceled the show, i.e. no more new episodes, which pisses me off royally...

Re:Mozilla Needs to be Fixed!

[Anonymous Coward]

linux is free as in SOFTWARE

Whew (John K returning)

[anthony_dipierro]

I thought for a minute that JonKatz was returning!

Well

[AnimeFreak]

If you're Canadian and you have cable or sattelite you can watch it at 12 AM weekdays on Teletoon.

If you're like me and have a dish, you can watch it at 9 PM then again at 12 AM (Gotta love getting both Teletoon West and Teletoon East).

Does anyone know if these uncensored or new episodes made it to Teletoon?

Memories

[Trekie8472]

Ren and Stimpy provided fodder for an entire age demographic's elementary school dirty jokes. I count myself as one of those few. I still think back to the days of "Don't Pee on the Electric Fence" and "You iideot!" follwed by a violent slap. I'm suprised Nickelodeon allowed the show to even air. Godspeed Ren and Stimpy.

left sock

[dirvish]

Damn! Where did my left sock go?

Some Opinions

[Shant3030]

hmm....
hmm....
No Sir, I didnt like it.

TNN, Nickeldeon, Star Trek, and MTV are owned by..

[XBoyAdv]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that TNN is also owned by Viacom which is a key thing I missed on my previous post.

agreed

[Gizzmonic]

Ren and Stimpy just isn't that great. The creator (John Kric) can't stop calling himself a genius, and even accused Trey Parker and Matt Stone of stealing the idea for Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo from him.

Face it, Ren and Stimpy never had any characters...it was just these ugly animals in "funny" situations...nothing really happened besides Ren picking his nose and Stimpy using the catbox. How can you watch one 30 minute episode of that, let alone 8?

Re:agreed

[BitwizeGHC]

John K. is a genius. It takes a certain level of genius to create a cartoon show that is irresistibly hilarious, heartwarming, and disturbing all at once. A lot of the humor is very subtle: cartoons during the 80's tended to have a stock of certain, standard sound effects for various events; kids knew and recognized them deep in their subconscious. Ren & Stimpy tended to use the same sound effects for entirely different events, and even added some of their own. I busted a gut laughing the first time I heard the sound of sloshing water for a character shaking his head, or the sound of a young woman shrieking when Stimpy was suddenly struck with the right words to add to his Gritty Kitty poem.

As for Mr. Hankey, well, considering that Ren & Stimpy aired a Christmas episode in which Stimpy went off in search of his lost fart, Mr. Hankey seems very much in that same vein of humor, and if it weren't for R&S, Southpark probably would not exist. The Shaven Yak is much cooler, anyway. :)

Re:agreed

[Anonymous Coward]

It takes a certain level of genius to create a cartoon show that is irresistibly hilarious, heartwarming, and disturbing all at once.

You let me know when he makes such a cartoon.
That show was the same crap over nad over and over again.

MOVIE! MOVIE!

[jelle]

I call for Ren and Stimpy in the movie theater.

Who's in?

Re:MOVIE! MOVIE!

[flacco]

I call for Ren and Stimpy in the movie theater.

So YOU'RE the guy that keeps yelling out "Ren and Stimpy!" in the movie theater! Sit down and shut the hell up!

Re:MOVIE! MOVIE!

[jelle]

Did I say that out loud? My bad. ;-)

Re:MOVIE! MOVIE!

[MsGeek]

There will be an R&S TV Movie as part of the package TNN has ordered.

Yaaaaaay!

[flacco]

"You Seeck little monkey!"

- Ren Hoek

ps - amazing JohnK trivia: he used to date the divine Eleanor Blake - a.k.a. April March.

John K does ....

[RebelTycoon]

more then write lame movie reviews for slashdot?

What is this world coming to?

What you mean its not our beloved JonKatz, you mean there are more then 2 John Ks?

Damnit be more clear in the message summary.

Banned?

[Cramer]

VH1 showed "Ren's Evil Half" (or whatever) but they won't show "Man's Best Friend"?

VH1 was showing episodes for a few months but then just stopped. NIK was showing them, but they never aired a single episode when they said they were going to.

TNN in Hostile Corporate Takeover!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

In a bold move by Black Entertainment Television (BET) they have purchased TNN and will drastically change that network's programming without changing the famous TNN initials.

John K's Re-emergence

[E-Rock-23]

Well well. Nice to see that John K is moving back on the scene. Cartoon Network viewers will remember his takes on the Jetsons and Flintstones, which were insane. Yep, he's still got it. And now that TNN wants to be racy and outlandish (thank the maker, the country theme sucked), it'd be nice to see it back on TV. New episodes, anyone?

Nick's demographic is the kiddies. TNN wants the X-ers and older teens. Ren and Stimpy was kids TV from a very different (Pre-Politically Correct) era. Now it's considered in the "Adult Swim" vein, almost Robert Smeigel-ish in nature. Perfect for TNN, since the audience that grew up laughing at John K's sick humor is now their target demographic.

Now all they need to do is pull GI Joe and Transformers (pre movie) out of mothballs and run those bad boys. I don't care what network, what time slot. Thems was some bad ass cartoons, and they never once made me want to pick up a gun...

Re:John K's Re-emergence

[Anonymous Coward]

Bumblebee made me want to pick up a gun, every single episode.

black bars? banner ad space or wide screen?

[johnpaul191]

my digital cable co doesnt give use TNN (though we have every available channel).....

let me get this straight.... this is not letterboxing for widescreen format movies/tv show (a few TV shows are widescreen now, but only to HDTV feeds) . wow that's insane. i think i would rather they frame the whole screen and keep the proper aspect ratio. banner ads on tv shows is going to be really crazy. i have a feeling they wont do it to eliminate TV commercials either, eh? wait.... what if there is a Sprint commercial and an AT&T banner ad? this sounds like a nightmare. every thing we watch will be like headline news. AGH! it's one thing to underline news with other news, stocks and weather, but to banner Hogan's Heroes with soap ads.... strange, really strange.

REPEAT ARTICLE LAME!!!

[andymoe]

Wow this was already posted. so die.

Get Invader Zim too while you are at it

[evilned]

Ok, I think TNN is trying to setup a competitor to Cartoon Networks Adult Swim, and have unedited Ren and Stimpy be the showcase piece for it. Great, but dont forget that Viacom already has another great cartoon on Nickelodeon that sorely needs a switch to a more adult audience, and more freedom for its creators, Invader Zim. Take it off of Nick's hands, and let TNN have its shot with it, please.

Moderator Totals for this Artical

[Lord Bitman]

Informative: +2 Overated: -1 Underrated: +3 Flamebait: -1 Off-Topic: -237

When john K left

[CrazyJim0]

Ren and stimpy turned into a pile of just trying to be disgusting when John left, before that the episodes were actually humourous.

Its sad to see all the shows in the genre and I'll never watch because they wanna be gross and stupid, but have nothin cool in em.

If ren and stimpy come back, they need episodes of quality that can stand to par with stayput socks(happy happy joy joy), and the robin hood one.

Random slop may get you some money before your show dies off, like the last 6-10 episodes.... But if you want to make a show, try and make everyone the best you can, or you're not doing yourself or the audience justice.

Why not a DVD release?

[GregGardner]

Why don't the content owners of Ren & Stimpy take a page from Sex and the City, The Sopranos, and The Simpsons and start releasing Ren & Stimpy seasons on DVD? Hell, they even released The Transformers Season 1 on DVD and it seemed to be selling pretty well on Amazon.

Like a lot of people here on Slashdot, I watched Ren & Stimpy as a young teenager and it was the first show that I really enjoyed that I couldn't explain. It was sort of the modern art of Nickelodeon cartoons. There is something there you like and you're not completely sure why because you don't completely get it. But you end up laughing yourself off the couch.

Re:Why not a DVD release?

[Byteme]

I hope they read this and see the potential. I will buy it (single or set) on the day of release. I have been waiting for quite a while.

Man-o-man

[Anonymous Coward]

you're a little whinger today.

Make michael jackson visit your family.

Oh beautiful Icecream Bar........

[wizbot]

Space madness ....mmmmmmmm......

Re: Be Thankful

[bic2k]

I get TNN with the black bar in Canada. I'm even on a local cable provider, Shaw. Try looking around a bit more, TNN is definatly in Canada.

happy happy

[stmpynode]

joy joy

hehehe

[thedbp]

man, i LOVE ren and stimpy. when i was younger, i couldn't believe that it actually made it to television! it was like this shining gold nugget in the middle of a gigantic pile of fetid wombat poo. i'm sure glad i taped all the original episodes when they were still in 1st and 2nd run! now that i'm older and have the hardware, i'm in the process of putting together VCDs. won't be as nice quality as a DVD box set, and I'll probably buy it if it does come about just to support John K., but hell, maknig the VCDs is a great excuse to watch them all over again. and its a cheap way to hook somebody after you find out they've never seen ren and stimpy!

Mr. Horse

[Anonymous Coward]

"No Sir, I don't like it!"

Nice...

[KamuZ]

Well, after seeing all the strange and stupid show seen in Nickelodeon and MTV (not all ofcourse) i have to say Ren & Stimpy are the best, i still watch them in "Locomotion" (DTV from Mexico channel)

This is good...

Title of episode?

[wampus]

Anyone know the title to the episode where Ren gets commited to the mental hospital, and they make him the president? I've always loved that one, and have no idea what its called.

That's pretty much badass, but....

[jiminy]

they still need to bring back "aeon flux" *coolest*show*ever*

Re:That's pretty much badass, but....

[Anonymous Coward]

Bah! Aeon flux was like a contest to see "Who can draw the most ridiculous plot and the biggest spandex boobs at the same time." Trying to be wierd and arty doesn't = entertainment.

Re:That's pretty much badass, but....

[jiminy]

yeah, but it was entertaining if you were faded enough :) also, *SPANDEX BOOBS RULE*

Slightly off-topic but...(Log song and Eudora)

[Franky Hollywood]

Which came first? The 'Log' Song or Eudora's mail chime!? Maybe it came from somewhere else!? Who knows!!???!

Re:Slightly off-topic but...(Log song and Eudora)

[Anonymous Coward]

The Log song is a direct parody of the jingle used to sell Slinkies.

What walks down stairs
Alone or in pairs
And makes a slinkety sound?
A spring, a spring
A wonderful thing
Everyone knows it's Slinky.

What rolls down stairs
Alone or in pairs
And rolls over the neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack
and fits on your back?
It's Log, Log, Log.

Those are different Eps!!

[DinZy]

I thought that too once untill I actually watched it. They did the same 3 minute intro again and again but had many different episodes that were different.

Log!

[hndrcks]

It's better than bad... It's good!

Nickelodeon is a KIDS network

[Gorimek]

Think back 5 years and remember how young you used to be.

So what you're saying is...

[BluBrick]

Hmmm
.
.
.
.
.
No Sir, I don't like it!

If you don't like R&S...

[kayakgreg]

..then you're an eediot, a worm, a bloated sack!

Oh yeah and to the eediot who said Ren picks his nose, that's Stimpy that picks his nose, you eediot!

What rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs, over your neighbor's dog? What's good for a snack and fits on your back? It's log, log, log!

"Nothing but Shorts"

[Sebastopol]

I rented "Nothing but Shorts" (50 minutes of R&S short spots) the other night and had a laugh, and it was so blindingly obvious which footage was "new" and what was "original". Not just the voices (which were obvious), but the content and affectations were all wrong in the "new" footage. Stimpy had so much more odd facial expression, really out of place kinda stuff. And Ren's actions were far more strange.

Eh, hopefully the "NEW new" series will be more like the old stuff.

old news

[Anonymous Coward]

this story is over a month old

What happened to R&S was a farce.

[AyeRoxor!]

I remember being outraged when I read what happened to this man and his show. It was groundbreaking and hilarious, bold and daring, and I was impressed with Nick for airing it. then the duo (not being a troll, being serious) start acting almost homosexual. Stimpy would dress up like a housewife, etc. this crap really creeped me out. Only later did I learn that these changes happened after Nick ripped the show from the hands of its very creator, for being to gross. I remember nose goblins being one of the complaints. This is nickelodeon for God's sake. and they're decrying body humor? The whole fiasco ultimately turned me off of Nick for good, and I haven't watched it since.

John K, I wish you nothing but prosperity out of the hands of Nick. Keep up the good work!

BTW, where is Spumco.com? (Link is dead but still surfaces in google, unfortunately uncached)

Well, I hope that brings some of you up to date :)

Out
[a]

Yes, it is true.

[Anonymous Coward]

I have been to the anonymous building in North Hollywood that is Spümcø, and have seen storyboards in progress.

John will be doing Ren's voice, of course. I don't know if they'll get Billy in to do Stimpy; there may be just too much bad blood between them for that to happen.

Some of the old crew is back, mixed with younger blood - boards and rough layout are being done by Vince Waller and Eddie Fitzgerald; Richard Pursell is doing a lot of the scripting along with John. The show will be as anarchic and taboo-breaking as you remember it being; TNN seems to be a bit looser in what they'll let John get away with, as it's bound for prime-time instead of kiddie cartoon zone.

As to the person who mentioned the old deal with Icebox, I believe that disintegrated when Icebox went belly-up.

There's no issue with the rights - TNN is owned by Viacom, as is MTV and Nick.

John K?

[panic911]

I could be wrong, but according to this imdb page, John K isn't the writer for Ren and Stimpy - he's just Ren's voice.

Re:John K?

[tinrobot]

Duh... click on the 'more' button to see all the credits...

John wrote/co-wrote & directed many of the first 10-20 or so -- until Nickelodeon pulled the plug on him and installed Bob Camp for the rest of the run.

DWOTEF

[Tokerat]

That's "Don't Whiz On The Electric Fence" you eediot!

Re:DWOTEF

[dpreviti]

I used that as a breaker all the time in college on the campus radio station. One of the funniest things on tv. And it always got a laugh from people who hadn't heard it before.

It's LOG!

[invid]

It's log! It's log! It's big, it's heavy, it's wood!

Seriously, from the 1960s up until Ren and Stimpy, the cartoon short was dead. Nothing like the classic cartoon shorts were being made, only half-hour cartoons that were usually tied in with toy products. Ren and Stimpy opened the door for Invader Zim and The Power Puff Girls.

yea good idea dooode!!

[jck9626]

Abolish state funding for education establishments. Make the bastards WORK for their education.

In that case we could nock off a couple of those damm coasters who we support w/ our god blessed tax dollars, which could be much better spent welfare or SS anyway!!!

It's pathetic that the best and brightest of this fair nation have nothing better to do than sit around watching cartoons. Like children.

Yea, cause no one should act like children... not even ummm errrr children?

MTV Versions of Ren & Stimpy

[ackthpt]

I was lucky enough to catch wind of the "airing" of Son of Stimpy, when MTV put it on late at night. To my knowledge they has shown it twice and then it was pretty much stowed. I still have it, and most other episodes on tapes, though the quality is only fair, due to gain problems over cable (areas of Nick's bright orange would have snow and create a buzz in the sound.) MTV at least carried mostly original, though I've never seen the scene in Big House Blues where Ren drinks from the toilet (though it's in the show opening sequence.)

Viacom blew it when they let Nick have control over R & S, which really didn't belong there in the first place. Ren & Stimpy belonged in a late night slot, like Bevis and Butthead, as their appeal was more late-teens, and older, particularly those episodes (Space Madness, Marooned) which parody old space serials from the 50's (which little kids wouldn't have any idea what's being parodied.)

The full, uneditted R&S would be instantly a part of my DVD collection, if it were available (not chopped up versions suitable to pea-brained Nick execs.) Cartoons after the departure of John K. are only marginally funny, often sophomoric and dull.

John's really a pretty cool guy, I had the pleasure to meet him and get a sketch several years ago (Ren screaming at Stimpy, "Get back to woork, you eediot!") I've tried to keep up with what's going on at Spumco, but their site seems to be down, or unaccessible from where I am. They did a pretty decent F*** Her Gently, which was in the last Spike and Mike's Sick and Twisted.

Re:MTV Versions of Ren & Stimpy

[rikkards]

I used to watch it when it was originally on in the mid 90's on Much Music in Canada. I thought it was funny then and was quite excited to watch it again when one of the channels here (YTV I think) decided to start showing it again.

The first one they showed was Son of Stimpy which I remember enjoying. I guess my tastes have changed because it was exactly how I remembered but it wasn't funny anymore. I could almost hear the crickets chirping.

Duct Tape...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is there anything it CAN'T do...?

Re: Be Thankful

[Anonymous Coward]

What's wrong with you. It's definite that you can't spell.

Ticker putz!

[Anonymous Coward]

"I like that, and as long as people like me continue to like it, it isn't leaving."

No, it because of attention addled twits like you that the world is full of annoying idiots!

Dammit man, I'd like to enjoy a soothing R&S episode without some frigg'n banner telling me across the bottom for millionth time that some kids in the Middle East got their heads blown off or that Britney Spears is still alive.

What do you do with all that instant news anyway? Does it change how you live or even make you get off the couch? NO! It is just mind candy so don't act like you need it!

Star Trek

[Hoi Polloi]

So we'll be seeing lots more aliens with weird things glued to their foreheads?

Rocko rulez dood

[Hoi Polloi]

I loved Rocko. Many times I have hidden by the shower door as my wife came out going (in my best Heffer voice) "Naaaakeeeddd!"

(Ref: The episode where Heffer makes a home art film)

Re:Rocko rulez dood

[xenoweeno]

"We?"

"We. *WE*. Wee-wee!"

(Heffer and Filbert)