1. Who the hell are you to decide what I'm going to use? I like KDE and I'm using it right now, but I also use IceWM. And let me tell you that I'm pretty sure Debian will never remove it. If it did switch to one unique desktop then I'd change immediately to some less restrictive distribution, or start my own.
2. How would that happen? Do you seriously think that developers would be happy to stop working on their project just because you think a standard is needed? Also I don't want curses gone. What do you suggest I should use with 32MB boxes, KDE3? Or maybe readline?
3. Sure, go and tell them that. You could as well try convince the motorbike industry to switch to producing cars, since they're safer and more people have them.
Linux programs can have config files in/usr/local/etc too. And for a very simple reason. On pretty much any distribution programs go into/sbin,/bin, or/usr/bin. Those are the ones that come packaged. When you compile something most programs default to installing into/usr/local:/usr/local/bin,/usr/local/sbin, etc to avoid messing up your system.
It's actually a very good thing. If you ever say, compile Perl and install it in/usr/local then it won't interfer with anything vital (root doesn't have/usr/local/bin in $PATH), and if it doesn't work well you can quite safely nuke/usr/local because the distribution never installs anything there.
Logically,/usr/local/etc will have the config files for those programs. If squid was installed as a package but the config file was in/usr/local/etc then the package wasn't made correctly.
I see people talking about manufactures using those to test how old people would feel inside their cars or whatever. Okay, I understand somebody might try this thing out of curiosity, but car manufacturers? Wouldn't it be easier to pay a few old people?
True, but if you can't find it in Google then I doubt anybody will tell you to RTFM. If somebody asked me how to burn CDs in Linux, I'd tell him/her to RTFM because there's a lot of documentation available, and google returns plenty of it on the first results page.
Of course not every manual makes it easy, but there are some that are made exactly for that. For example, the Perl Cookbook. The whole book is just "How do I" questions and answers.
About the synonyms problem. Some books I've got here have a short introduction in the form of "foo is also known as bar and baz, but for consistency reasons we'll call it foo". If it's hard to find information in a book then it's just not worth buying. And anyway there's always Google.
The problem with that is that there are very few people who'd like to answer beginner questions. Most people who come to those channels to help have a good knowledge and want to feel useful. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't come to a mathematician to ask her how to compute the square root of something. Surely she's got something much better to do.
This is why things like FAQs exist, people are tired of answering the same questions over and over, when there are far more interesting things to do. #debian has the apt bot, for example.
Also, it depends on how you ask the question. If you think that people in support channel come there for answering every of your questions, you're mistaken and will be rightfully flamed.
BTW, manuals have an useful feature called "index". Maybe you could try using it.
Queue them. Don't know about you, but when I used a modem ads didn't take *that* long to load. The major annoyance was from ads that kept popping up and taking a lot to load bacause there were a lot of them.
But even with the modem my connection was unused while I was reading slashdot, for example. The browser could always remember the ads, wait until the connection is idle and then download them. If it doesn't become idle, then it could just not load them at all.
This wouldn't give so nice results on the short term, but on the long term it should be much better. If you just don't load the ads you don't hurt the advertiser. Why would s/he care if you block ads? If you do that chances are you're not going to buy anything anyway.
This is about the same idea as replying to spam. Yes, it costs you more. But if you swap the spammer with thousands of useless calls it'll be far more effective than just throwing out the spam you get.
The ad provider pays for bandwidth as well. If you started loading banners without showing them you'd really annoy advertisers. Now bandwidth is being used, the servers are under load, but they can't be certain the ad actually appeared anywhere.
If you have a connection like mine and don't pay for the bandwidth you use, this costs you nothing. The browser could delay loading ads until your connection is idle.
The result: you don't see ads, advertisers pay for the server bandwidth, but get to results. If you want them to go away, nothing better than costing them some money.
Heh, bloat seems to have reached incredible levels lately.
Win95 is capable of running with just 4 MB RAM, although there's no comparison with OS/2 that does it well. Windows swaps if you just boot and open the explorer window. Hell, with 4MB it's even possible to render stuff in 3D Studio 4.
Win95 is very usable with 16MB RAM, and with 24 it should work pretty well for most things. Excepting stuff like Mozilla, of course, that uses 30MB on my computer...
That's wonderful if you're military, but how about everybody else? Remember, money doesn't come out of thin air. If Bush gives you money that means that less is available for somebody else.
IMHO it'd be much better if Bush stopped wasting so much money on war and gave all that to education. It seems America seriously lacks people who can see farther than their nose.
Are you joking? I know two people who run IRC servers just to have a place for a few people to talk without problems. And the big IRC networks aren't anywhere near dead.
Myself, I'm trying to write yet another replacement, but oriented to small groups who want to talk without being bothered. It doesn't scale to the amount of people IRC accepts, or at least not yet. But even though I and probably a hundred of other people are trying to write the "ultimate chat server" IRC still haven't been defeated. Curious, isn't it?
I think the solution to that would be short range communication, bluetooth for example. Sure some moron could spam you this way, but if you're not connected to a big global network and just make connection with everybody near this shouldn't be a big problem. I doubt spamming would be effective this way, mostly due to the temptation of punching somebody who's spamming you.
Almost anybody can do something new. Not necessarily something awesome and groundbreaking like the O(1) scheduler, but pretty much anybody with some skill can make their little contribution in the form of a Perl module for example.
I also like that in programming it's fairly easy to reinvent things. For example I'm pretty sure a few people reinvented bubble sort or linked lists while playing with a programming language without having read anything but the manual for that language. Gives you a nice feeling to find that you were able to come up with useful things on your own.
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With so many of them it's time we make a full section for them. Since after so much complaining they don't seem to be going away any time soon maybe the solution would be just to make a section so that editors could move duplicated articles there.
I think Konqueror is mostly a container. It doesn't really render HTML or anything like that, it just serves as a container for KHTML, PDF viewers or anything else. I guess it'd be possible to port Konqueror + KHTML to Qt only, but then you'd miss the rest of the functionality, as installing new programs in KDE may make Konqueror able to load those file types.
1. You can use the binary they compiled. 2. You can compile the source, but not use it. 3. Source is provided to verify lack of backdoors. 4. That means that the source should produce the binary you get on their site. 5. Therefore, both binaries are identical so different use restrictions are nonsense. 7. Somebody mentioned here that while they provided information about the build environment attempts to get an identical binary weren't successful. 8. All this seems to indicate there's a quite strong possibility of PGP being backdoored.
That's just 9 of those 100 files. And it doesn't even make sense. My bandwidth is 256 kbps. To allow some margin for web browsing and a less than ideal connection I'd like to choose for example a 230 kbps file, but your system won't let me. I have to choose a 128 kbps file, and I'm not happy with that. And probably few people will, since people with 128 kbps ADSL will have to use the 64kbps one, and modem users will also get a worse quality than they could.
To adjust ideally to the available bandwidth you'd have to store files with a much smaller bitrate difference, for example every file could be 5 kbps lower. But that's now going to require quite a lot of space, isn't it?
Where have you seen software that requires a newer kernel? Okay, maybe some things require 2.4, but I've never seen a program that says I have to have kernel 2.4.19, or any new version of it.
Somehow I managed to read only the name and the Linux reference, so I was thinking "Cool, another game to play on Linux", and then found it has nothing to do with Jazz Jackrabbit. For those who don't know it's an old and fun platform game.
I wonder why there are so many people who are in some band that distributes their music over P2P but they never tell the name. Heck, you're complaining about having to compete with famous bands and don't use this opportunity to promote your band a bit?
No stealing at all IMO. Just like downloading MP3. I've never in my life bought a music CD. And probably never will. If I download MP3 is irrelevant, if I couldn't I'd just not listen to music at all. The same way, if nobody posted this I wouldn't have bothered to read it. So no money lost.
I had this idea a while ago but never got around implementing it. Take a list of ads, and make a Perl script to load banners invisibly, of course faking the referer.
I see it as less "evil" than blocking ads, because if I just block them the site doesn't get anything from the advertiser, but the advertiser doesn't really lose anything. This way the advertiser should have it pretty hard to figure out which ads are seen and which are not, and the site should be paid at least a bit.
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1. Who the hell are you to decide what I'm going to use? I like KDE and I'm using it right now, but I also use IceWM. And let me tell you that I'm pretty sure Debian will never remove it. If it did switch to one unique desktop then I'd change immediately to some less restrictive distribution, or start my own.
2. How would that happen? Do you seriously think that developers would be happy to stop working on their project just because you think a standard is needed? Also I don't want curses gone. What do you suggest I should use with 32MB boxes, KDE3? Or maybe readline?
3. Sure, go and tell them that. You could as well try convince the motorbike industry to switch to producing cars, since they're safer and more people have them.
Linux programs can have config files in /usr/local/etc too. And for a very simple reason. On pretty much any distribution programs go into /sbin, /bin, or /usr/bin. Those are the ones that come packaged. When you compile something most programs default to installing into /usr/local: /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, etc to avoid messing up your system.
/usr/local then it won't interfer with anything vital (root doesn't have /usr/local/bin in $PATH), and if it doesn't work well you can quite safely nuke /usr/local because the distribution never installs anything there.
/usr/local/etc will have the config files for those programs. If squid was installed as a package but the config file was in /usr/local/etc then the package wasn't made correctly.
It's actually a very good thing. If you ever say, compile Perl and install it in
Logically,
I see people talking about manufactures using those to test how old people would feel inside their cars or whatever. Okay, I understand somebody might try this thing out of curiosity, but car manufacturers? Wouldn't it be easier to pay a few old people?
True, but if you can't find it in Google then I doubt anybody will tell you to RTFM. If somebody asked me how to burn CDs in Linux, I'd tell him/her to RTFM because there's a lot of documentation available, and google returns plenty of it on the first results page.
Of course not every manual makes it easy, but there are some that are made exactly for that. For example, the Perl Cookbook. The whole book is just "How do I" questions and answers.
About the synonyms problem. Some books I've got here have a short introduction in the form of "foo is also known as bar and baz, but for consistency reasons we'll call it foo". If it's hard to find information in a book then it's just not worth buying. And anyway there's always Google.
The problem with that is that there are very few people who'd like to answer beginner questions. Most people who come to those channels to help have a good knowledge and want to feel useful. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't come to a mathematician to ask her how to compute the square root of something. Surely she's got something much better to do.
This is why things like FAQs exist, people are tired of answering the same questions over and over, when there are far more interesting things to do. #debian has the apt bot, for example.
Also, it depends on how you ask the question. If you think that people in support channel come there for answering every of your questions, you're mistaken and will be rightfully flamed.
BTW, manuals have an useful feature called "index". Maybe you could try using it.
Queue them. Don't know about you, but when I used a modem ads didn't take *that* long to load. The major annoyance was from ads that kept popping up and taking a lot to load bacause there were a lot of them.
But even with the modem my connection was unused while I was reading slashdot, for example. The browser could always remember the ads, wait until the connection is idle and then download them. If it doesn't become idle, then it could just not load them at all.
This wouldn't give so nice results on the short term, but on the long term it should be much better. If you just don't load the ads you don't hurt the advertiser. Why would s/he care if you block ads? If you do that chances are you're not going to buy anything anyway.
This is about the same idea as replying to spam. Yes, it costs you more. But if you swap the spammer with thousands of useless calls it'll be far more effective than just throwing out the spam you get.
No, it doesn't!
The ad provider pays for bandwidth as well. If you started loading banners without showing them you'd really annoy advertisers. Now bandwidth is being used, the servers are under load, but they can't be certain the ad actually appeared anywhere.
If you have a connection like mine and don't pay for the bandwidth you use, this costs you nothing. The browser could delay loading ads until your connection is idle.
The result: you don't see ads, advertisers pay for the server bandwidth, but get to results. If you want them to go away, nothing better than costing them some money.
Heh, bloat seems to have reached incredible levels lately.
Win95 is capable of running with just 4 MB RAM, although there's no comparison with OS/2 that does it well. Windows swaps if you just boot and open the explorer window. Hell, with 4MB it's even possible to render stuff in 3D Studio 4.
Win95 is very usable with 16MB RAM, and with 24 it should work pretty well for most things. Excepting stuff like Mozilla, of course, that uses 30MB on my computer...
That's wonderful if you're military, but how about everybody else? Remember, money doesn't come out of thin air. If Bush gives you money that means that less is available for somebody else.
IMHO it'd be much better if Bush stopped wasting so much money on war and gave all that to education. It seems America seriously lacks people who can see farther than their nose.
Are you joking? I know two people who run IRC servers just to have a place for a few people to talk without problems. And the big IRC networks aren't anywhere near dead.
Myself, I'm trying to write yet another replacement, but oriented to small groups who want to talk without being bothered. It doesn't scale to the amount of people IRC accepts, or at least not yet. But even though I and probably a hundred of other people are trying to write the "ultimate chat server" IRC still haven't been defeated. Curious, isn't it?
I think the solution to that would be short range communication, bluetooth for example. Sure some moron could spam you this way, but if you're not connected to a big global network and just make connection with everybody near this shouldn't be a big problem. I doubt spamming would be effective this way, mostly due to the temptation of punching somebody who's spamming you.
Almost anybody can do something new. Not necessarily something awesome and groundbreaking like the O(1) scheduler, but pretty much anybody with some skill can make their little contribution in the form of a Perl module for example.
I also like that in programming it's fairly easy to reinvent things. For example I'm pretty sure a few people reinvented bubble sort or linked lists while playing with a programming language without having read anything but the manual for that language. Gives you a nice feeling to find that you were able to come up with useful things on your own.
With so many of them it's time we make a full section for them. Since after so much complaining they don't seem to be going away any time soon maybe the solution would be just to make a section so that editors could move duplicated articles there.
I think Konqueror is mostly a container. It doesn't really render HTML or anything like that, it just serves as a container for KHTML, PDF viewers or anything else. I guess it'd be possible to port Konqueror + KHTML to Qt only, but then you'd miss the rest of the functionality, as installing new programs in KDE may make Konqueror able to load those file types.
I know that, as I said somebody mentioned that the build environment required was described. However the binary still didn't match.
If the binary does match, then why the license? Both would be exactly the same thing.
That license doesn't make sense. Let's see:
1. You can use the binary they compiled.
2. You can compile the source, but not use it.
3. Source is provided to verify lack of backdoors.
4. That means that the source should produce the binary you get on their site.
5. Therefore, both binaries are identical so different use restrictions are nonsense.
7. Somebody mentioned here that while they provided information about the build environment attempts to get an identical binary weren't successful.
8. All this seems to indicate there's a quite strong possibility of PGP being backdoored.
A hundred files? Wow.
Let's see: 256, 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1.
That's just 9 of those 100 files. And it doesn't even make sense. My bandwidth is 256 kbps. To allow some margin for web browsing and a less than ideal connection I'd like to choose for example a 230 kbps file, but your system won't let me. I have to choose a 128 kbps file, and I'm not happy with that. And probably few people will, since people with 128 kbps ADSL will have to use the 64kbps one, and modem users will also get a worse quality than they could.
To adjust ideally to the available bandwidth you'd have to store files with a much smaller bitrate difference, for example every file could be 5 kbps lower. But that's now going to require quite a lot of space, isn't it?
Well, for routers I'd say Netfilter could be a good thing. Although I guess it depends on your needs.
(Insert obvious joke about market penetration)
Where have you seen software that requires a newer kernel? Okay, maybe some things require 2.4, but I've never seen a program that says I have to have kernel 2.4.19, or any new version of it.
Somehow I managed to read only the name and the Linux reference, so I was thinking "Cool, another game to play on Linux", and then found it has nothing to do with Jazz Jackrabbit. For those who don't know it's an old and fun platform game.
So what's your band's name?
I wonder why there are so many people who are in some band that distributes their music over P2P but they never tell the name. Heck, you're complaining about having to compete with famous bands and don't use this opportunity to promote your band a bit?
No stealing at all IMO. Just like downloading MP3. I've never in my life bought a music CD. And probably never will. If I download MP3 is irrelevant, if I couldn't I'd just not listen to music at all. The same way, if nobody posted this I wouldn't have bothered to read it. So no money lost.
I had this idea a while ago but never got around implementing it. Take a list of ads, and make a Perl script to load banners invisibly, of course faking the referer.
I see it as less "evil" than blocking ads, because if I just block them the site doesn't get anything from the advertiser, but the advertiser doesn't really lose anything. This way the advertiser should have it pretty hard to figure out which ads are seen and which are not, and the site should be paid at least a bit.