That is true, it uninstalls nothing, just makes in brain dead easy to reassociate html links to a different broswer.
Note that "IE" is a fairly small program, almost nothing more than a GUI wrapper around the MSHTML rendering engine that is used within Windows in several places as well as many third party apps and even an app that I've written myself.
You probably could remove iexplore.exe with no real harm to the rest of your windows use, but you would not beding yourself a favor by uninstalling the MSHTML com object(s) from your system.
Actually it would be more like "Twice as useful". The.NET libraries are huge. It takes more space to describe all of it, but that's just because there is more for you to use in one place without having to write it yourself or drag in dozens of third party libs.
That editorial statement was completely false, there is no need to actually use it as a launching pad for more anti-MS FUD.
Could you please explain where the loss of control in Palladium is? You can't, because there is none. And in fact, as you intimated (albeit sarcasticly), it actually increases a users control over their own system.
This is something that Linux will have to copy sooner or later and at that point it will be hailed as the best security measure ever invented.
FYI (Or the 'I' of any other windows developers out there). On Windows the command to use to do this is "ShellExecute" from the shell api. The shell then makes the decision on what program to launch to take care of the file type or link type you give it. In the case of http:// URLs this becomes your preferred browser, whatever it is. This also works for mail URLs, ftp whatever...
AMD has been freq locking thier chips as much as they have been able for a VERY long time. A lot longer than Intel has been (Talking about multiplier locking here as actual freq locking is new).
Of course AMD will "copy" this, they are probably really bummed they didn't think of locking the actualy total freq first! (Well of course they "thought" about it, but I guess hand't found a practical solution yet)
Exact same thing happened after the invention of the moving picture projector and other viewing devices. Probably on hundreds of other inventions as well. It's the way the system works (or doesn't work).
It's amusing the way most people think that everything new to them is new to the history of mankind.
Ok, that was obviously a joke, but the earth being closer to the sun would cause it to pick up incrementally more radiation as the angular diameter of the earth within the sphere of solar radiation would increase. So yes being closer to the sun would make it hotter/on earth/.
Yeah, and Intel and MS have been 64 bit for years now as well. THEY KNOW that 64 bit is no big deal because they've already been there. They aren't shying away from it because they aren't ready. They are realisticly saying that it currently is useful on maybe.001% of desktops and maybe 1% of the servers, so there is no reason to get all insanely excited about it (Yet).
It's mainly (at least from Intel) to try and introduce some reason into AMDs simmering and sure to be big "64 bit is better" advertising blast that is imminent. It is better, sort of, maybe, but will anyone (more than the 0.001%) know the difference in the short term? No. It'll be a big marketing war in another year or so, the FUD will be flying like crazy...
I've found that while the core code on a single (usually the primary) platform becomes more stable due to well frankly more testing by more people. Overall you end up with MORE bugs total and of course the coding requirements are higher overall.
So is still may not be a good thing depending on your development schedual. Sometimes it may be good, other times it can impact you pretty hard...
Yeah, it might have some purpose if it were delivering tangable items like those CDs I bought on EBay yesterday that showed up in the mail room this morning.
Anything that could be done electronically at 10,000x the speed and 1/10,000th the resource cost would be pretty rediculous though.
(Reminds me of the unions in LV "Carrying" a tiny 2 lb box from the parking lot to our booth on a single fork of aforklift while a second guy has his hand on top of it to keep it from falling off)
that Michael update the article description with a very well worded retraction of the stupidity that is the current/. article description.
This single article description makes/. look stupider than almost anything I can remember in the last several months, daily duplicates included! And people complain about Microsoft FUD?
It is as long as the developer plays the game right. It prevents DLL hell for developers that are interested in defeating it for their own products.
This new system will prevent problems even when stupid developers actively try to hose your system by having little joe newbie write the install scripts for their software.
Maybe a little more can be said. Linus works for a proprietary tech company. Linux uses proprietary DVD decoding software and says "Nya Nya you can't have the source". Linus is no Jesus. On the other hand. Bill Gates has personally given away more money to charities than any individual person ever. In fact all rich people he's robbed to pay for all the poor he's helpd, well there was another peron of tale like that. And he was a hero.
Must be nice to live in a world with only two colors like you do. Nothing to think about ever, no decisions to make. Everyone does all that for you and you just belong. Probably like the way I imagine our cats live their lives...
There was a recent study done that shows that the light from LEds and lasers do the same damage to the eye at the same energy levels (Duh). (Poor rhesus monkeys...)
LEDs are extremely powerful these days (Green/blue "diode" lasers use a bright IR led to "pump" the laser cavity) So just saying they use LEds, which are obviously powerful enough and columnated enough to travel distances through weather, doesn't mean they are any less dangerous (Even if there really are no current gov. regulations to worry about).
LED == Laser for this application and the same common sense precautions would apply.
And I don't personally know anyone or heard of anyone in my "network" who has, we are professionals. Doing such a thing is beyond comtempt. Nothing less than a typical skiddie virus/trojan writer.
Well here's a little trick you can play RIGHT NOW in the current unprotected document system on Windows OR Linux.
Hee hee, as admin find grep for e-mails going from person a to person b and change occurrances of the work "do" with "don't" or vice versa!
There are so many ways for the end user or man in the middle to fsck over documents at source or in transit it's not funny. A little DRM could actually go a LONG way twards preventing the very kinds of shenanigans you cite from happening in today's systems!
Not to mention the dozens of other torches to your non-argument provided by others. If Linux were doing this it would be hailed as the greatest security benefit for document users ever conceived! (Not that it is, but it would be hails as such)
"What Microsoft® Windows applications will LindowsOS(TM) run?"
"The quick answer is that LindowsOS(TM) will not run Microsoft Windows applications at a level of quality we're satisfied with."
Somehow I doubt it'll meet the satisfaction of many Windows users either...
Apparently the "dows" in Lindows is just a marketing trick to get people talking about it. No publicity is bad publicity.
In reality is is just a subscription based Linux OS that will end up costing more and being less useful to real Linux users than Red Hat and cost more and be less useful than a preloaded Windows install (With software) for the non-Linux geek.
But they sure do try hard! That notebook does look nice and most of the comments here seem to be "Can I put on that?" or "Can I put Windows on that"? Almost XBox like, since they hope to make their real money on the subscriptions. Hopefully they are making money on the laptop at least:)
But I'd bet that the real reason (Well the only sane reason I can think of) for putting Linux on an Xbox is to turn it into a router, or print server or firewall or little webserver or something like that. No one is going to be playing Madden on those Xboxes:)
I think Office Space probably is the most accurate portrayal of the life of a programmer there is in any "Movie". Well except for the part about slipping into felony hacking:P But before and up to them getting fired, it was dead on!
I happen to know, through a long history with this subject, that as long as something is easily stolen, people will steal it. (I'm not talking about fair use, I'm talking about ripping a CD and placing it on Usenet)
This is the sad truth about humanity and we ALL suffer for it:( It'd be a great world if there were no computer viruses too! We'd not need all this "Security" crap!:) But alas...
Was that a defeatist reply? Well as soon as people do actually stop stealing software, music, movies etc in wholesale mass quantities. Then I will change my position on DRM.
I also know that part of this can be accomplished by making said things cheaper. A lot of companies are finally realizing that. Microsoft included. People used to pirate office for home just to get a real word processor (Word). Now They sell a $79 (-$20 rebate frequently) package that includes a full version of Word in it. People pirate Photoshop constantly just to have quality photo editing software (Sorry GIMP, You don't cut it yet). Now Adobe sells Photoshop Elements for $99 (-$30 rebate frequently) and it is 100% of Photoshop without CMYK or professional paper compensation curves.
As long as we see more of that, and as long as people relieve themselves of the "Everything has to be free" mentality, there is some hope...
What you and nearly everyone else here seem to be missing is that "DRM Technology" also contains the ability to define NO restrictions! Just like on DVDs where there is a "Regeon Free" bit that can (and is) set by the publishers of the material.
So Indie musicians (Like myself) have NOTHING to fear about this. In fact, maybe for the first time if an Indie musician decides that they WANT to control their music (About 1 in 20 do) they now have the power to do so, while the others will have the power to grant unlimited lisence so you know you are copying legally.
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Really, aren't there at least 46,000 people on /. alone? Or more like 250,000?
That is true, it uninstalls nothing, just makes in brain dead easy to reassociate html links to a different broswer.
Note that "IE" is a fairly small program, almost nothing more than a GUI wrapper around the MSHTML rendering engine that is used within Windows in several places as well as many third party apps and even an app that I've written myself.
You probably could remove iexplore.exe with no real harm to the rest of your windows use, but you would not beding yourself a favor by uninstalling the MSHTML com object(s) from your system.
Wavelab is very nice. $600 full or $300 upgrade which is still the full version but without the manuals. Look it up in google for details.
Shadow warrior?
Actually it would be more like "Twice as useful". The .NET libraries are huge. It takes more space to describe all of it, but that's just because there is more for you to use in one place without having to write it yourself or drag in dozens of third party libs.
That editorial statement was completely false, there is no need to actually use it as a launching pad for more anti-MS FUD.
Could you please explain where the loss of control in Palladium is? You can't, because there is none. And in fact, as you intimated (albeit sarcasticly), it actually increases a users control over their own system.
This is something that Linux will have to copy sooner or later and at that point it will be hailed as the best security measure ever invented.
FYI (Or the 'I' of any other windows developers out there). On Windows the command to use to do this is "ShellExecute" from the shell api. The shell then makes the decision on what program to launch to take care of the file type or link type you give it. In the case of http:// URLs this becomes your preferred browser, whatever it is. This also works for mail URLs, ftp whatever...
AMD has been freq locking thier chips as much as they have been able for a VERY long time. A lot longer than Intel has been (Talking about multiplier locking here as actual freq locking is new).
Of course AMD will "copy" this, they are probably really bummed they didn't think of locking the actualy total freq first! (Well of course they "thought" about it, but I guess hand't found a practical solution yet)
Exact same thing happened after the invention of the moving picture projector and other viewing devices. Probably on hundreds of other inventions as well. It's the way the system works (or doesn't work).
It's amusing the way most people think that everything new to them is new to the history of mankind.
Ok, that was obviously a joke, but the earth being closer to the sun would cause it to pick up incrementally more radiation as the angular diameter of the earth within the sphere of solar radiation would increase. So yes being closer to the sun would make it hotter /on earth/.
Yeah, and Intel and MS have been 64 bit for years now as well. THEY KNOW that 64 bit is no big deal because they've already been there. They aren't shying away from it because they aren't ready. They are realisticly saying that it currently is useful on maybe .001% of desktops and maybe 1% of the servers, so there is no reason to get all insanely excited about it (Yet).
It's mainly (at least from Intel) to try and introduce some reason into AMDs simmering and sure to be big "64 bit is better" advertising blast that is imminent. It is better, sort of, maybe, but will anyone (more than the 0.001%) know the difference in the short term? No. It'll be a big marketing war in another year or so, the FUD will be flying like crazy...
Not exactly...
I've found that while the core code on a single (usually the primary) platform becomes more stable due to well frankly more testing by more people. Overall you end up with MORE bugs total and of course the coding requirements are higher overall.
So is still may not be a good thing depending on your development schedual. Sometimes it may be good, other times it can impact you pretty hard...
Yeah, it might have some purpose if it were delivering tangable items like those CDs I bought on EBay yesterday that showed up in the mail room this morning.
Anything that could be done electronically at 10,000x the speed and 1/10,000th the resource cost would be pretty rediculous though.
(Reminds me of the unions in LV "Carrying" a tiny 2 lb box from the parking lot to our booth on a single fork of aforklift while a second guy has his hand on top of it to keep it from falling off)
Uh, you can turn it off in IE.
that Michael update the article description with a very well worded retraction of the stupidity that is the current /. article description.
/. look stupider than almost anything I can remember in the last several months, daily duplicates included! And people complain about Microsoft FUD?
This single article description makes
It is as long as the developer plays the game right. It prevents DLL hell for developers that are interested in defeating it for their own products.
This new system will prevent problems even when stupid developers actively try to hose your system by having little joe newbie write the install scripts for their software.
"Linus good. Gates bad. 'Nuff said."
Maybe a little more can be said. Linus works for a proprietary tech company. Linux uses proprietary DVD decoding software and says "Nya Nya you can't have the source". Linus is no Jesus. On the other hand. Bill Gates has personally given away more money to charities than any individual person ever. In fact all rich people he's robbed to pay for all the poor he's helpd, well there was another peron of tale like that. And he was a hero.
Must be nice to live in a world with only two colors like you do. Nothing to think about ever, no decisions to make. Everyone does all that for you and you just belong. Probably like the way I imagine our cats live their lives...
There was a recent study done that shows that the light from LEds and lasers do the same damage to the eye at the same energy levels (Duh). (Poor rhesus monkeys...)
LEDs are extremely powerful these days (Green/blue "diode" lasers use a bright IR led to "pump" the laser cavity) So just saying they use LEds, which are obviously powerful enough and columnated enough to travel distances through weather, doesn't mean they are any less dangerous (Even if there really are no current gov. regulations to worry about).
LED == Laser for this application and the same common sense precautions would apply.
And I don't personally know anyone or heard of anyone in my "network" who has, we are professionals. Doing such a thing is beyond comtempt. Nothing less than a typical skiddie virus/trojan writer.
This is the most flamable straw-man ever.
Well here's a little trick you can play RIGHT NOW in the current unprotected document system on Windows OR Linux.
Hee hee, as admin find grep for e-mails going from person a to person b and change occurrances of the work "do" with "don't" or vice versa!
There are so many ways for the end user or man in the middle to fsck over documents at source or in transit it's not funny. A little DRM could actually go a LONG way twards preventing the very kinds of shenanigans you cite from happening in today's systems!
Not to mention the dozens of other torches to your non-argument provided by others. If Linux were doing this it would be hailed as the greatest security benefit for document users ever conceived! (Not that it is, but it would be hails as such)
"What Microsoft® Windows applications will LindowsOS(TM) run?"
:)
"The quick answer is that LindowsOS(TM) will not run Microsoft Windows applications at a level of quality we're satisfied with."
Somehow I doubt it'll meet the satisfaction of many Windows users either...
Apparently the "dows" in Lindows is just a marketing trick to get people talking about it. No publicity is bad publicity.
In reality is is just a subscription based Linux OS that will end up costing more and being less useful to real Linux users than Red Hat and cost more and be less useful than a preloaded Windows install (With software) for the non-Linux geek.
But they sure do try hard! That notebook does look nice and most of the comments here seem to be "Can I put on that?" or "Can I put Windows on that"? Almost XBox like, since they hope to make their real money on the subscriptions. Hopefully they are making money on the laptop at least
Maybe...
:)
But I'd bet that the real reason (Well the only sane reason I can think of) for putting Linux on an Xbox is to turn it into a router, or print server or firewall or little webserver or something like that. No one is going to be playing Madden on those Xboxes
I think Office Space probably is the most accurate portrayal of the life of a programmer there is in any "Movie". Well except for the part about slipping into felony hacking :P But before and up to them getting fired, it was dead on!
Actually I totally agree!
:( It'd be a great world if there were no computer viruses too! We'd not need all this "Security" crap! :) But alas...
I happen to know, through a long history with this subject, that as long as something is easily stolen, people will steal it. (I'm not talking about fair use, I'm talking about ripping a CD and placing it on Usenet)
This is the sad truth about humanity and we ALL suffer for it
Was that a defeatist reply? Well as soon as people do actually stop stealing software, music, movies etc in wholesale mass quantities. Then I will change my position on DRM.
I also know that part of this can be accomplished by making said things cheaper. A lot of companies are finally realizing that. Microsoft included. People used to pirate office for home just to get a real word processor (Word). Now They sell a $79 (-$20 rebate frequently) package that includes a full version of Word in it. People pirate Photoshop constantly just to have quality photo editing software (Sorry GIMP, You don't cut it yet). Now Adobe sells Photoshop Elements for $99 (-$30 rebate frequently) and it is 100% of Photoshop without CMYK or professional paper compensation curves.
As long as we see more of that, and as long as people relieve themselves of the "Everything has to be free" mentality, there is some hope...
What you and nearly everyone else here seem to be missing is that "DRM Technology" also contains the ability to define NO restrictions! Just like on DVDs where there is a "Regeon Free" bit that can (and is) set by the publishers of the material.
So Indie musicians (Like myself) have NOTHING to fear about this. In fact, maybe for the first time if an Indie musician decides that they WANT to control their music (About 1 in 20 do) they now have the power to do so, while the others will have the power to grant unlimited lisence so you know you are copying legally.