That's EXACTLY what I meant! It means nothing and yet it's being reported everywhere that it kicks the p4's ass and everyone is beliving it. No one else in this thread has bothered to look at the test objectively and say "Wait a minute, why were these two things even compared?". But I did and got knocked down to 0 for it.
An as for what is says about "my" p4 is that yes, last years first gen P4 wasn't so hot. But this is NEW tech, it should have at least been compared to the latest p4 tech if it was going to be compared at all.
Great. Compare the latest generation AMD processor with a first generation P4.
Let's see the the thing benchmarked against at least the latest p4 2.53/512/533/1066 system. (Available TODAY) and then lets benchmark it against the latest Intel system when the thing actually ships which by then may be a p4 3.0/512/600/1200 system.
This is pure smoke and mirrors by a few AMD zealots. The Mac benchmarks that "prove" that a PPC chip is 4x faster than a p4 have continuously been shot down by anyone actually taking a look at the results with a little perspective. Now here we go with AMD...
Heh, that's pretty much true. The OMD version of XP PRO sells for $120 if bought with a machine and $299 if bought over the counter. Lots of profit for all that way! Home is something like $80 OEM and $199 retail. (All FULL versions, not upgrades)
True, though in defense of not reading the article and misunderstanding it's contents. Using terms like "Unbreakable" can be very misleading. Absolute terms like "Unbreakable" should not be used lightly. Especially since unless the system is also "Unhackable" then it can surely be "Broken" no matter how many failover nodes you have. We just went through all this, these people should have learned something from the Oracle debacle of just a couple months ago.
It's even better than DSL on DL speeds. Though maybe more expensive in total for all the houses. But to say they had no choice other than 28.8 is probably a bit of hyperbole...
And if you write a TIFF parser that is 100% TIFF spec compliant, guess what? You can't view about 50% of the TIFF files you run across. Ideallism only gets in the way of actually getting work done. Mozilla needs to know it's place, and that place is last. If it wants to gain a foot-hold it needs to play ball, and that means supporting the most popular non-spec tags! Until Moz can render EVERY page I use regularly it cannot be my main browser. Simple as that.
And that is the saddest thing I've heard anyone utter on/. ever.
It's especially sad because it's true.
Is it any wonder why the MPAA and RIAA are out to fuck everyone over? Who's more immoral? Everyone is! It's a mobius strip of immorality! The only sure thing is that it will all end worse for everyone.
Course then with the STL why the hell would you? Hash tables and linked lists are wheels that have been invented so many times by so many people, there's no reason to ever write them again. Now of course every programmer should know HOW and WHEN to USE them, but that's another topic...
$40 a month is a steal itself! Some amount of money goes for paying for the infrastructure. It's probably a lot. Ever look at your electric bill? 1/2 goes for installing and maintainging the electric distribution system. The other half for the actual power. Guess which part of the cable modem is equal to the power? Right, the bandwidth that Cox or whoever have to pay to get their traffic actoss other people's networks.
I've had every kind of connection under the sun, frequently multiple types at the same time at our place, and by far, the cable modem's DL speed vs price is the best deal going. UL speed/price is about on par with everything else unfortunately though.
As a matter of fact. "intent" plays a HUGE role in US law. That's the difference between murder and manslaughter. Napsters "intent" was to give away commercial music for free. That was their advertising slogan and they even wrote a theme song about it! They bragged that you wouldn't have to wade through tons of indie and unknown trash to find the good stuff.
Napster was special in that they intended to distribute other people's copyrighted works for free. They were no Morpheous or Kazaa. They were guilty as hell from day one.
More or less it is a moral issue. But not that people are becoming more immoral so much. It's more like pirating music is seen as less and less immoral every day. After a while, when every person and their grandmother is doing it. It really stops seeming to be immoral. It of course IS still VERY immoral. But the perception of that immorality is fading as time goes on.
Actually after a time the epson heads DO fail. Then your SOL. WIth the HP carts. You use them till they fail then buy a new "head" for cheap. I've had both and the epson solution is the inferior one for long term printer use.
Your happy meal example is the perfect anology to TOTALLY DISPROVE your inane theories. The happy meal DOES NOT COST MORE because it contains a toy!!! In fact it ususally costs a LOT LESS that a regular meal.
Are you saying that McD now has to sell the happy meal without the toy for 50 cents less? That's EXACTLY what you are asking Microsft to do!
Win98/XP Home IS the happy meal of the microsoft OSes! Cutting out 3 cents worth of plastic does not mean that 50% of the cost should be refunded. And of course you have completely overlooked the the problems caused by undoing the integration which has HELPED many many small developers bring fully featured apps to windows. Myself included. Spoken like the true laywer that you are. All twisted logic and a complete lack of common sense.
Ah, that wasn't apparent from looking at the site. Course I could burn my own cds of my music and sell them for free and $4.95 shipping cost and I don't have to split the cost with anyone! All this while using one or more of the free or almost free OMD sites. And I'd love to see a sample of the work. I've been involved with other OMDs with CD sales and for about 5-6 bucks a pop you can get a piece of quality work. But what they must be shipping out for the 50 cents or so they're spending on CD creation, it's going to be pretty sad.
And the funny thing is that will only take on professional grade work. Well for those people that are professionals there are many many more options. This would be better suited to the garage band types.
And, movies are "used" once or twice whereas cds are generally "used" dozens of times. Therefore the "usefulness" of the CD is probably much higher. It should cost several times what a DVD costs!
Isn't rationalization great! You can say anything in the total absence of facts!:)
It does not appear that they actually manufacture the CDs for the artists. It looks like the artists have to ship them the CDs to sell. So the artist makes $1 and some change on the CDs that FightCloud sells, meanwhile the making of the CDs costs roughly twice that for small run "Professional packages". Not to mention the money the artist has to spend on their own promotion.
Doesn't sound like anyone is making any money other than fight cloud. Yet again. The artist is always the last to make any money at all!
One reason that that can happen is because there are VERY few SQL engines out there. It's pretty easy to show up on the radar. There are millions of bands and CDs. It takes a LOT of money to stand out. Even if the music is the greatest ever heard. How will anyone hear it against the backdrop of a billion other songs? That's right, promotion, and good promotion costs money... LOTS OF MONEY.
It's true and it has nothing to do with "Enron accounting" forward or reverse. A lot of money is put into each CD. But the truth is NO ONE knowns WHICH cd will make tons of money and which ones will tank! (Well there are odds, but billion $ cds come out of nowhere all the time and frequently Sure bvets fail miserably) So they have to market them all so that 1 in 10 actually ends up selling.
Music companies are in the buisness to make money off of music. Why is that so hard to understand or accept? Music is only slightly less of a gamble than... well gambling!
If you are actually interested, then go read a bit more about it. Buy a book on how the music industry actually works. Then come back and make an informed post.
Well first, it's 10 Mb not 10 MB. But that is of course just the WIFI communication speed. Then it goes to a central server, then to the internet. So whatever the internet connection point speed is, it would probably be shared with every single user on the network (Maybe as it grows they'll add a second, third internet access point). Who knows what the actual internet access speed would be for the end user. This is much the way the cable modem works. You CAN get phenominal speeds (DL anyway) on a cable modem, as long as all your neighbors aren't all trying to do the same. But it all averages out to $40 charge for everyone even though you (I) can get 3x t-1 DL speeds.
A development tool does not an OS make. It's just a tool. Every piece of software ever made was compiled by some tool, using some library somewhere. Yet NO OTHER tool maker requires you to name your product after the tool that created it! That's a completely absurd notion. INSANE even.
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That's EXACTLY what I meant! It means nothing and yet it's being reported everywhere that it kicks the p4's ass and everyone is beliving it. No one else in this thread has bothered to look at the test objectively and say "Wait a minute, why were these two things even compared?". But I did and got knocked down to 0 for it.
An as for what is says about "my" p4 is that yes, last years first gen P4 wasn't so hot. But this is NEW tech, it should have at least been compared to the latest p4 tech if it was going to be compared at all.
Great. Compare the latest generation AMD processor with a first generation P4.
Let's see the the thing benchmarked against at least the latest p4 2.53/512/533/1066 system. (Available TODAY) and then lets benchmark it against the latest Intel system when the thing actually ships which by then may be a p4 3.0/512/600/1200 system.
This is pure smoke and mirrors by a few AMD zealots. The Mac benchmarks that "prove" that a PPC chip is 4x faster than a p4 have continuously been shot down by anyone actually taking a look at the results with a little perspective. Now here we go with AMD...
Heh, that's pretty much true. The OMD version of XP PRO sells for $120 if bought with a machine and $299 if bought over the counter. Lots of profit for all that way! Home is something like $80 OEM and $199 retail. (All FULL versions, not upgrades)
True, though in defense of not reading the article and misunderstanding it's contents. Using terms like "Unbreakable" can be very misleading. Absolute terms like "Unbreakable" should not be used lightly. Especially since unless the system is also "Unhackable" then it can surely be "Broken" no matter how many failover nodes you have. We just went through all this, these people should have learned something from the Oracle debacle of just a couple months ago.
It's even better than DSL on DL speeds. Though maybe more expensive in total for all the houses. But to say they had no choice other than 28.8 is probably a bit of hyperbole...
And if you write a TIFF parser that is 100% TIFF spec compliant, guess what? You can't view about 50% of the TIFF files you run across. Ideallism only gets in the way of actually getting work done. Mozilla needs to know it's place, and that place is last. If it wants to gain a foot-hold it needs to play ball, and that means supporting the most popular non-spec tags! Until Moz can render EVERY page I use regularly it cannot be my main browser. Simple as that.
And that is the saddest thing I've heard anyone utter on /. ever.
It's especially sad because it's true.
Is it any wonder why the MPAA and RIAA are out to fuck everyone over? Who's more immoral? Everyone is! It's a mobius strip of immorality! The only sure thing is that it will all end worse for everyone.
Course then with the STL why the hell would you? Hash tables and linked lists are wheels that have been invented so many times by so many people, there's no reason to ever write them again. Now of course every programmer should know HOW and WHEN to USE them, but that's another topic...
Heh, :) well even as jest, maybe we should wait to see if a single game even gets created. (And not another F'ing port of nethack!)
$40 a month is a steal itself! Some amount of money goes for paying for the infrastructure. It's probably a lot. Ever look at your electric bill? 1/2 goes for installing and maintainging the electric distribution system. The other half for the actual power. Guess which part of the cable modem is equal to the power? Right, the bandwidth that Cox or whoever have to pay to get their traffic actoss other people's networks.
I've had every kind of connection under the sun, frequently multiple types at the same time at our place, and by far, the cable modem's DL speed vs price is the best deal going. UL speed/price is about on par with everything else unfortunately though.
As a matter of fact. "intent" plays a HUGE role in US law. That's the difference between murder and manslaughter. Napsters "intent" was to give away commercial music for free. That was their advertising slogan and they even wrote a theme song about it! They bragged that you wouldn't have to wade through tons of indie and unknown trash to find the good stuff.
Napster was special in that they intended to distribute other people's copyrighted works for free. They were no Morpheous or Kazaa. They were guilty as hell from day one.
Well that and traditionally UNIX itself has always been a per-seat liscensed OS. Long before DOS or windows ever existed and even today!
More or less it is a moral issue. But not that people are becoming more immoral so much. It's more like pirating music is seen as less and less immoral every day. After a while, when every person and their grandmother is doing it. It really stops seeming to be immoral. It of course IS still VERY immoral. But the perception of that immorality is fading as time goes on.
That's not why the foam is there and it doesn't in any way stop refilling (You just have to refill a little slower).
Actually after a time the epson heads DO fail. Then your SOL. WIth the HP carts. You use them till they fail then buy a new "head" for cheap. I've had both and the epson solution is the inferior one for long term printer use.
Your happy meal example is the perfect anology to TOTALLY DISPROVE your inane theories. The happy meal DOES NOT COST MORE because it contains a toy!!! In fact it ususally costs a LOT LESS that a regular meal.
Are you saying that McD now has to sell the happy meal without the toy for 50 cents less? That's EXACTLY what you are asking Microsft to do!
Win98/XP Home IS the happy meal of the microsoft OSes! Cutting out 3 cents worth of plastic does not mean that 50% of the cost should be refunded. And of course you have completely overlooked the the problems caused by undoing the integration which has HELPED many many small developers bring fully featured apps to windows. Myself included. Spoken like the true laywer that you are. All twisted logic and a complete lack of common sense.
LAWYERS GET OUT OF SOFTWARE DESIGN NOW!
Ah, that wasn't apparent from looking at the site. Course I could burn my own cds of my music and sell them for free and $4.95 shipping cost and I don't have to split the cost with anyone! All this while using one or more of the free or almost free OMD sites. And I'd love to see a sample of the work. I've been involved with other OMDs with CD sales and for about 5-6 bucks a pop you can get a piece of quality work. But what they must be shipping out for the 50 cents or so they're spending on CD creation, it's going to be pretty sad.
And the funny thing is that will only take on professional grade work. Well for those people that are professionals there are many many more options. This would be better suited to the garage band types.
(As long as we are armchair philosophizing)
:)
And, movies are "used" once or twice whereas cds are generally "used" dozens of times. Therefore the "usefulness" of the CD is probably much higher. It should cost several times what a DVD costs!
Isn't rationalization great! You can say anything in the total absence of facts!
It does not appear that they actually manufacture the CDs for the artists. It looks like the artists have to ship them the CDs to sell. So the artist makes $1 and some change on the CDs that FightCloud sells, meanwhile the making of the CDs costs roughly twice that for small run "Professional packages". Not to mention the money the artist has to spend on their own promotion.
Doesn't sound like anyone is making any money other than fight cloud. Yet again. The artist is always the last to make any money at all!
One reason that that can happen is because there are VERY few SQL engines out there. It's pretty easy to show up on the radar. There are millions of bands and CDs. It takes a LOT of money to stand out. Even if the music is the greatest ever heard. How will anyone hear it against the backdrop of a billion other songs? That's right, promotion, and good promotion costs money... LOTS OF MONEY.
It's true and it has nothing to do with "Enron accounting" forward or reverse. A lot of money is put into each CD. But the truth is NO ONE knowns WHICH cd will make tons of money and which ones will tank! (Well there are odds, but billion $ cds come out of nowhere all the time and frequently Sure bvets fail miserably) So they have to market them all so that 1 in 10 actually ends up selling.
Music companies are in the buisness to make money off of music. Why is that so hard to understand or accept? Music is only slightly less of a gamble than... well gambling!
If you are actually interested, then go read a bit more about it. Buy a book on how the music industry actually works. Then come back and make an informed post.
Well first, it's 10 Mb not 10 MB. But that is of course just the WIFI communication speed. Then it goes to a central server, then to the internet. So whatever the internet connection point speed is, it would probably be shared with every single user on the network (Maybe as it grows they'll add a second, third internet access point). Who knows what the actual internet access speed would be for the end user. This is much the way the cable modem works. You CAN get phenominal speeds (DL anyway) on a cable modem, as long as all your neighbors aren't all trying to do the same. But it all averages out to $40 charge for everyone even though you (I) can get 3x t-1 DL speeds.
A development tool does not an OS make. It's just a tool. Every piece of software ever made was compiled by some tool, using some library somewhere. Yet NO OTHER tool maker requires you to name your product after the tool that created it! That's a completely absurd notion. INSANE even.
So much for freedom.
Er, though not better spelling :)