would you need such a beast? No one has yet explained this to me.
I've worked on dual pII systems, and they're nice'n'fast. A dual celeron hack is a thing of beauty. But my understanding was always that more than 2-processors was not really a speedup on Intel architecture, which has too many memory access hangups to get it right.
The exception to this _may_ be AMI, since I seem to remember them having crazy in-house designed memory config hacks that made things much more reasonable.
In any case, you are much _much_ better off with a dual-pII 450 machine than with quad ppro's -- the pII's are faster and access memory better (can you say 100mHz FSB?). Why anyone would still buy a ppro is beyond me.
If your requirements still aren't met, you need to stop the train and find another architecture. Alpha and SPARC are both civilized architectures that run civilized os's (like linux:) and do SMP _beautifully_. Alpha systems are _very_ cost effective on a per-performance basis, and Sun has some new low end workstations that are also quite reasonable.
Or we could all wait for SGI to bring out the SMP Visual Workstation, with SGI-designed memory architecture. Mmmmmmm.....visual workstations....soylent green.....
a) Linux has lovely logs. Read 'em daily. Much better than the tripe you read on MSNBC. Lots of fun tools around too for gathering stats from your logs. Actually, many of the logs are maintained by separate programs. We should really say that _linux_ has a good log for kernel activity, and _wuftpd_ has a good log, and _apache_ has a good log. But all the data is there about everything your processes do. Most importantly, about connections and transfers via your services.
b) Linux runs beautifully SMP (2.1.x and above). I worked on a dual system in school last year, and my friend has one. It's very clean. And it's amusing to watch linux switch tasks back and forth between processors when it's not doing anything, looking for better load balancing. Alan Cox says Linux runs equally beautifully on up to 16 or 32 processors, and I trust him.
c) Linux does _not_ have a journalling FS that tracks everything that happens on the disk, guaranteeing your recovery of lost data, say after a hardware crash. NT doesn't have one either. Some big commercial UNICES do (AIX, what else?). I beleive Linus said it's a priority for linux 2.3.x, so maybe _maybe_ initial implementation by the end of this year.
Speaking as a game developer, 16 bit color on a 3dfx is a bit different than on other boards, due to the filtering the hardware does before it displays. Filtering so insidious and crafty that the combined wits of Dave Rosenthal & Dave Scherer, our resident graphics hackers here at Singularity Software, gave up and politely asked 3dfx how on earth they do it.
BTW the dithering on a V3 or SLI'd V2's in 1024x768 is pretty sweet.
It is debatable whether nVidia's TNT boards come close to 3dfx (speed penalty due to D3D tho). Nothing else on the market today even competes.
Why in _hell_ should the widget set be forced upon applications by the OS? What on _earth_ should one have to do with the other?
I love Linux, and firmly believe it's the HolyOS. But lets face it, not everything in Linux is beautiful. It can be pretty downright complicated and difficult to deal with at times. All these little components with their own little configurations to get right.
But the problem is just on an order of complexity less than that of the Windows System Registry, where everything gets screwed up at the same time in the same place. Linux is _modular_, which means we can make one thing work right at a time. No wonder the Windoze flavors are so poor. Wouldn't your baby OS be unhappy if someone hacked a ring3 UI from a completely unstable OS in on top of your ring0 kernel (can you say WinNT 4?).
I think it's pretty impressive when we moved my friend's HD to his new 450a, and spent 7 hours getting Win95 to work right. See, it needed drivers for the new IDE controller (BX chipset). Which were on the CD that came with the motherboard. But Win95 couldn't talk to the CDROM since it was using the realmode disk drivers since it couldn't talk to the IDE controller...and after we fixed that we had to fiddle with ever _bloody_ one of his interrupts. And all this in 640x480 since untill the interrupts were right we couldn't install proper vidcard drivers. Yuck.
By contrast, when I moved my old HD to my 450a, Linux worked perfectly and flawlessly with no effort. I was up in 30 seconds, and had X reconfigured for the new video board in 30 more.
Don't even _talk_ to me about MacOS. The last time I used a Mac, I got a window open with no little close box on the title bar. The program provided a "quit" button in the interior of the window, but it didn't work -- just restarted the app. I had to shut off the frikkin computer. Now that's _sad_.
You want a consistent look and feel? Use the same widget set (GTK+, Qt) in a suite of applications (KDE,GNOME). I'm not impressed by interoperation except between _MS_ apps. Which is the same as saying the KDE and GNOME apps work right with other apps in their respective suites. No biggie. But the GNOME and KDE developers are working towards a common ORB that will bring true interoperability to the desktop. Users will be able to mix and match at will.
Honestly this is pretty sad. If you're not happy in your current job to this extent, perhaps you need to consider trading off some pay for a job you really enjoy.
There are a lot of elementary schools out there that could use some dedicated people. Does your system need an experienced technology person to set up Internet access in schools (and spread a little Free OS lovin' along the way)?
Even if you're not ready to quit your job, you might find yourself a little happier if you do something worthwhile.
In the end it's not really your PHB's fault you don't quit and leave his ass in the dust.
Granted I am not familiar with Mozilla, but the impression I had was it was going decently well. Certainly when you combine the state of the Gecko engine and the features (eg. "What's Related, etc) that NetscapeComm proper has been adding in the 4.5x navigator series, it's debatable whether IE is really ahead (they're on an unstable beta of ver5 as well). As b'sides which, IE always pisses the hell out of me -- never can tell what it's doing or what progress it's made.
But the issues Mozilla.org has had seem to be core ones to software projects, especially commercial ones, and issues i've thought about a bit. The mistake was releasing the previous Navigator4 codebase at all. It was too crufty. A million lines they tell me. Gee whiz, that's amazing. No wonder it sucks.
Let me tell you something -- Microsoft doesn't write bad software 'cos they don't have good programmers, or intentionally. They do it for beaurocratic reasons. It's pretty much impossible to manage something that big in that environment, where individual teams write small chunks without considering the rest of the project. The result is slow, impenetrable cruft.
Projects like GNOME and KDE avoid this -- people work on individual modules _based_ around a core design, and with that Invisible Hand of massive public testing and fixes that keeps things more-or-less in line.
Mozilla was reaching that point.
I think it's really a shame JWZ gave up.
It may be a lesson on the wisdom of releasing commercial products as OS projects: don't bother if they suck.
I work for a 6 person company on a 40-50k line project, which is rewritten piece by piece relatively frequently. I didn't realize how lucky I am.
Also here at CMU -- Dr. Veloso demonstrated one to the freshman class last semester. The reason they play with the orange ball is they're trying to play robotic soccer (CMU is the world champion in most classes of robotic soccer, that's Dr. Veloso's specialty).
You'll have to trust me, they're _absolutely adorable_. They look around and follow the ball with their heads, then walk towards it and kick it with their front legs.
Apparantly debugging the things was a real pain (no good data out). Dr. Veloso says they wagged the tail to do debugging output:)
I'll add to Ian's comment above by quoting our FAQ:
"If you send us enough money, we might send you a full alpha. Or we might just keep the money. It would be a tough call."
So you're welcome to try it, but caveat emptor:)
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I'm going to make a recommendation here.
Support the free (speech not beer) office suites. Support gnumeric. Support the KDE spreadsheet whatever the hell it's called. Support the KDE wordprocessor and the gnome one, whatever the hell they're called too. Support LyX especially 'cos it rules and it's the best and Matthias Ettrich invented it for us.
Don't support them because you have a philosophical objection to the commercial ones. Support them 'cos the commercial ones _bite_. Why is it that my version of wordperfect from 1993 is an amazingly tight word processor and has every function I need and runs like _lightning_ on a slow low mem pentium, and my current computer (k6-200) can't run word97 well?
All the new office programs are crashy, poorly done bloatware. They add "features" in such a way to destroy the core ease-of-use and functionality of the programs. Have you ever _seen_ how many incomprehensible little buttons the latest ver of Word clutters your screen with? I swear the symbols are in Vulcan (klingon?).
Exert some pressure for clean, stable, well-designed, functional, elegant, fast-as-nuts word processors. Ensure the survival of the best code. Sure, demand compatibility. It's necessary. But support the free office.
Send your free (speech) office development teams some free beer today to let them know you care.
And stick it to the man who wants to give you annoying office suites that just exist to piss you off. He _personally_ came up with the damn paper clip. With _malicious intent_. Really.
On rare occasions I'm forced to use Word. It drives me absolutely _insane_. It keeps trying to _guess_ what I'm doing. So I'll do some clever formatting. The next paragraph, it'll do the formatting for me, and I'll say, "Wow! clever!". But then I'll want to _stop_ or change the formatting and I have to fight it. So total work contributed is 0.
I prefer LyX or LaTeX. I _tell_ it what I'm doing and it formats it. No thought involved. Just type:) Much more efficient, and everything comes out in beautiful TeX. Everyone at CMU already uses TeX anyhow -- math, science, CS, you name it. To the point where no one notices or comments when I sit and type papers in a cluster on an ultrasparc. Hehe.
Excel is pretty good (I like it anyhow, and I've had to do some decently hefty data analysis w/it). But according to Ian the GNOME Games Maintainer "gnumeric does everything and is excel compatible. The only thing it can't hack yet are charts." The solution? Keep a windoze box around for the occasional chart.
Actually, that's a feature I miss. I have wp8 personal (tho I never use it) and it has the charts stripped out. I generally have to use chart stuff in WP6.1, which is the last word processor I paid for. Sure it's for windoze, and it's 16bit code, but it's a great wordprocessor (I kinda prefer it to wp[7,8]:) and it runs nicely on a 486/33 (my little brother's computer) and I've _never_ in my life needed a bit of functionality that wasn't in there.
I hope the nice gnumeric people (or the nice KDE people for that matter) get us a beautiful, excel compatible chart program to link into the spreadsheet stuff soon, then we'll be complete:)
The Linux desktop kicks the tail off windoze any day of the week ending in y (note that linux goes on vacation {d elem days | d does not end in y} while windoze takes off {d elem days | d ends in y}) hehe too much 15-251.
Everybody on the frikkin _planet_ will want to see the trailer. That's why Lucas can make so bloody much money with these films. If it was only a couple of hundred dweebs, he'd be a poor man.
"You soon will be" "I feel fine!" "You're not fooling anyone!"
hehehe.
Seriously folks I am getting 50 kps internally here. I should be okay for a while. CMU has a better cnnection than this but I only get 10mit to the dorms....
Up at 7:10 am and the frikkin fileserver "206.251.0.167" is/.'d! It responds to pings, and there's a service listning on port 80. but I can't get _anywhere_ with it.
If someone can tell me where/how to get a copy I can mirror it 10mbit...
No, you don't get the same power you would from a single chip (even if the chips are clock per clock speed equivalent), since both must share the same already limitted memory bus. Actually you get much better benafits from multiprocessing on other architectures (eg. sparc, alpha) which have less pathetic memory access.
If you're running Linux, you should always be able to get plenty of CPU power to kill runaway processes. Now granted, you won't have 50% available to kill a single runaway process, but on the other hand you will be able to run a process at 100% CPU time. In any case, the UNIX model for processes downgrades the priority of processes that take too much CPU time, so that other much smaller processes tend to run in near-realtime. In theory you could limit any process to 50% processor power on a single-processor machine and have all the benafits you talked about w/none of the disadvantages. But you wouldn't because you might as well let processes run at full CPU potential. Note that an OS w/a more modern kernel architecture such as Be (or HURD i guess) will give you absolutely flawless user interface even when the system is massively loaded down.
In addition, a dual PII-300 will perform _much_ better than a dual P5-200. The PII is quite a bit better than the Pentium clock per clock, and you're getting many more clocks than a single pII-450 would.
Oh, and the best dual slot-I MB is the Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 -- onboard audio, fast ethernet, UW SCSI, up to 1gig RAM.
The "extra chip" does NOT "make the workstation unstoppable" it just makes it that much faster than one chip of that type at that clock speed. But looking at the same chip, with the same total CPU Hz available, a single chip machine will be faster for a particular process and have greater aggregate CPU power.
15-212 in Java is history. ML only. And we code in C++ freshman year, unlike the poor bastards at MIT in Scheme (a LISP for those not familiar). My friend at MIT ported his raytracer to Scheme to win the freshman programming contest.
Very little I've seen yet matches the rigor of the freshman courses 15-129 and 15-251 (as I'm sure all the/.'ers who were in 129 and are in 251 with me will agree:).
If you wanna visit give me a wire kenshiroc@hotmail.com... unless it's during _our_ spring break (last week of march) in which case you should come back when we're in session. And we have interesting speakers just about every day of the week if you're interested.
Alan won't agree with us 'cos he's a Brit and over here in the USA we're all cowboy-radicals as far as he's concerned, but the GNU movement is very heavily Libertarian.
ESR describes himself as a "gonzo libertarian." What does this mean? That the FSF group as a whole thinks that leaving software in the hands of big, proprietary business is as bad as leaving it in the hands of goverment. It's pretty clear MS has enough power to screw over anyone who uses or resells their software.
Being a Libertarian does _not_ mean being against capitalism. Libertarians are usually the most free-market minded people around. Not that commercial software should be illegal -- rather that you are sacraficing your freedom when you put the control of your computers into the hands of someone else, be it a corporation or the government. It's in your own interest to use Free (freedom, not beer:) software -- as Linux and *BSD show, it's better. Period. And that's market forces at work. If IBM, Compaq, et al. feel they can make money off this, fine. As Alan says, any "freedom deducted" product they sell can be redone Free.
You're right tho. It's software, not religion. It means _nothing_ if we spend our time having religious flamewars and never _write_ the free software. RMS will use free software on the principle, but businesses who rely on their software won't use the Free stuff till its better -- capitalism again.
Oh, and once a business is comitted to Free software (which it can never make unFree if it's GPL) that business has a simple vested interest in improving the software -- it's good for the bottom line to employ people like Don Becker, Alan and Linus.
I don't see at all how it's controlled by those "making money from it". Anyone who wants can modify the Linux kernel or GNU OS. Even if you don't get your changes accepted by Linus, you're welcome to them as long as you abide by GPL. If a company needs functionality, it can add it, but control remains Free. No one can screw the user over. And that's the point.
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would you need such a beast? No one has yet explained this to me.
:) and do SMP _beautifully_. Alpha systems are _very_ cost effective on a per-performance basis, and Sun has some new low end workstations that are also quite reasonable.
I've worked on dual pII systems, and they're nice'n'fast. A dual celeron hack is a thing of beauty. But my understanding was always that more than 2-processors was not really a speedup on Intel architecture, which has too many memory access hangups to get it right.
The exception to this _may_ be AMI, since I seem to remember them having crazy in-house designed memory config hacks that made things much more reasonable.
In any case, you are much _much_ better off with a dual-pII 450 machine than with quad ppro's -- the pII's are faster and access memory better (can you say 100mHz FSB?). Why anyone would still buy a ppro is beyond me.
If your requirements still aren't met, you need to stop the train and find another architecture. Alpha and SPARC are both civilized architectures that run civilized os's (like linux
Or we could all wait for SGI to bring out the SMP Visual Workstation, with SGI-designed memory architecture. Mmmmmmm.....visual workstations....soylent green.....
Some of you all just don't get a good April 1 joke.
Sure it's a bit late, but this puts Segfault/UF
to shame...
We bought a pile of nice fast Seagate Barracuda's to replace the rather full hd's in our set of Indys.
So there we were, HD in one hand, massive pile of IRIX cd's in the other. And our Indys w/o cdrom drives.
Oops.
Never did get around that one.
Put the drives in the webserver.
a) Linux has lovely logs. Read 'em daily. Much better than the tripe you read on MSNBC. Lots of fun tools around too for gathering stats from your logs. Actually, many of the logs are maintained by separate programs. We should really say that _linux_ has a good log for kernel activity, and _wuftpd_ has a good log, and _apache_ has a good log. But all the data is there about everything your processes do. Most importantly, about connections and transfers via your services.
b) Linux runs beautifully SMP (2.1.x and above). I worked on a dual system in school last year, and my friend has one. It's very clean. And it's amusing to watch linux switch tasks back and forth between processors when it's not doing anything, looking for better load balancing. Alan Cox says Linux runs equally beautifully on up to 16 or 32 processors, and I trust him.
c) Linux does _not_ have a journalling FS that tracks everything that happens on the disk, guaranteeing your recovery of lost data, say after a hardware crash. NT doesn't have one either. Some big commercial UNICES do (AIX, what else?). I beleive Linus said it's a priority for linux 2.3.x, so maybe _maybe_ initial implementation by the end of this year.
In November '98 when the report came out (AFAICT)?
Wow.
They're wasting their time, they should be in fortunetelling or stocks...
Speaking as a game developer, 16 bit color on a 3dfx is a bit different than on other boards, due to the filtering the hardware does before it displays. Filtering so insidious and crafty that the combined wits of Dave Rosenthal & Dave Scherer, our resident graphics hackers here at Singularity Software, gave up and politely asked 3dfx how on earth they do it.
BTW the dithering on a V3 or SLI'd V2's in 1024x768 is pretty sweet.
It is debatable whether nVidia's TNT boards come close to 3dfx (speed penalty due to D3D tho). Nothing else on the market today even competes.
No, really.
Why in _hell_ should the widget set be forced upon applications by the OS? What on _earth_ should one have to do with the other?
I love Linux, and firmly believe it's the HolyOS. But lets face it, not everything in Linux is beautiful. It can be pretty downright complicated and difficult to deal with at times. All these little components with their own little configurations to get right.
But the problem is just on an order of complexity less than that of the Windows System Registry, where everything gets screwed up at the same time in the same place. Linux is _modular_, which means we can make one thing work right at a time. No wonder the Windoze flavors are so poor. Wouldn't your baby OS be unhappy if someone hacked a ring3 UI from a completely unstable OS in on top of your ring0 kernel (can you say WinNT 4?).
I think it's pretty impressive when we moved my friend's HD to his new 450a, and spent 7 hours getting Win95 to work right. See, it needed drivers for the new IDE controller (BX chipset). Which were on the CD that came with the motherboard. But Win95 couldn't talk to the CDROM since it was using the realmode disk drivers since it couldn't talk to the IDE controller...and after we fixed that we had to fiddle with ever _bloody_ one of his interrupts. And all this in 640x480 since untill the interrupts were right we couldn't install proper vidcard drivers. Yuck.
By contrast, when I moved my old HD to my 450a, Linux worked perfectly and flawlessly with no effort. I was up in 30 seconds, and had X reconfigured for the new video board in 30 more.
Don't even _talk_ to me about MacOS. The last time I used a Mac, I got a window open with no little close box on the title bar. The program provided a "quit" button in the interior of the window, but it didn't work -- just restarted the app. I had to shut off the frikkin computer. Now that's _sad_.
You want a consistent look and feel? Use the same widget set (GTK+, Qt) in a suite of applications (KDE,GNOME). I'm not impressed by interoperation except between _MS_ apps. Which is the same as saying the KDE and GNOME apps work right with other apps in their respective suites. No biggie.
But the GNOME and KDE developers are working towards a common ORB that will bring true interoperability to the desktop. Users will be able to mix and match at will.
Now _that's_ cool.
The Dilmom rolls her own. And has been maintaining the same machine (via the occassional dd HD copy) since 0.3!
She is also a regular contributor to the GNOME team, and is the GNOME Recipe Agent project maintainer.
Anarchy gets in the way of me getting rich.
Honestly this is pretty sad. If you're not happy in your current job to this extent, perhaps you need to consider trading off some pay for a job you really enjoy.
There are a lot of elementary schools out there that could use some dedicated people. Does your system need an experienced technology person to set up Internet access in schools (and spread a little Free OS lovin' along the way)?
Even if you're not ready to quit your job, you might find yourself a little happier if you do something worthwhile.
In the end it's not really your PHB's fault you don't quit and leave his ass in the dust.
Granted I am not familiar with Mozilla, but the impression I had was it was going decently well. Certainly when you combine the state of the Gecko engine and the features (eg. "What's Related, etc) that NetscapeComm proper has been adding in the 4.5x navigator series, it's debatable whether IE is really ahead (they're on an unstable beta of ver5 as well). As b'sides which, IE always pisses the hell out of me -- never can tell what it's doing or what progress it's made.
But the issues Mozilla.org has had seem to be core ones to software projects, especially commercial ones, and issues i've thought about a bit. The mistake was releasing the previous Navigator4 codebase at all. It was too crufty. A million lines they tell me. Gee whiz, that's amazing. No wonder it sucks.
Let me tell you something -- Microsoft doesn't write bad software 'cos they don't have good programmers, or intentionally. They do it for beaurocratic reasons. It's pretty much impossible to manage something that big in that environment, where individual teams write small chunks without considering the rest of the project. The result is slow, impenetrable cruft.
Projects like GNOME and KDE avoid this -- people work on individual modules _based_ around a core design, and with that Invisible Hand of massive public testing and fixes that keeps things more-or-less in line.
Mozilla was reaching that point.
I think it's really a shame JWZ gave up.
It may be a lesson on the wisdom of releasing commercial products as OS projects: don't bother if they suck.
I work for a 6 person company on a 40-50k line project, which is rewritten piece by piece relatively frequently. I didn't realize how lucky I am.
Also here at CMU -- Dr. Veloso demonstrated one to the freshman class last semester. The reason they play with the orange ball is they're trying to play robotic soccer (CMU is the world champion in most classes of robotic soccer, that's Dr. Veloso's specialty).
:)
You'll have to trust me, they're _absolutely adorable_. They look around and follow the ball with their heads, then walk towards it and kick it with their front legs.
Apparantly debugging the things was a real pain (no good data out). Dr. Veloso says they wagged the tail to do debugging output
"Butter side up or butter side down?"
Death to the butter-side-downers!
Death to the big-endians!
We're 500% smarter on average than the rest of the world!
I always knew it.
Wait for Voodoo3 to come out, then buy yourself a Voodoo2. They're already down to a bit more than $100. And they'll get cheaper.
I'll add to Ian's comment above by quoting our FAQ:
:)
"If you send us enough money, we might send you a full alpha. Or we might just keep the money. It would be a tough call."
So you're welcome to try it, but caveat emptor
I'm going to make a recommendation here.
Support the free (speech not beer) office suites. Support gnumeric. Support the KDE spreadsheet whatever the hell it's called. Support the KDE wordprocessor and the gnome one, whatever the hell they're called too. Support LyX especially 'cos it rules and it's the best and Matthias Ettrich invented it for us.
Don't support them because you have a philosophical objection to the commercial ones. Support them 'cos the commercial ones _bite_. Why is it that my version of wordperfect from 1993 is an amazingly tight word processor and has every function I need and runs like _lightning_ on a slow low mem pentium, and my current computer (k6-200) can't run word97 well?
All the new office programs are crashy, poorly done bloatware. They add "features" in such a way to destroy the core ease-of-use and functionality of the programs. Have you ever _seen_ how many incomprehensible little buttons the latest ver of Word clutters your screen with? I swear the symbols are in Vulcan (klingon?).
Exert some pressure for clean, stable, well-designed, functional, elegant, fast-as-nuts word processors. Ensure the survival of the best code. Sure, demand compatibility. It's necessary. But support the free office.
Send your free (speech) office development teams some free beer today to let them know you care.
And stick it to the man who wants to give you annoying office suites that just exist to piss you off. He _personally_ came up with the damn paper clip. With _malicious intent_. Really.
On rare occasions I'm forced to use Word. It drives me absolutely _insane_. It keeps trying to _guess_ what I'm doing. So I'll do some clever formatting. The next paragraph, it'll do the formatting for me, and I'll say, "Wow! clever!". But then I'll want to _stop_ or change the formatting and I have to fight it. So total work contributed is 0.
:) Much more efficient, and everything comes out in beautiful TeX. Everyone at CMU already uses TeX anyhow -- math, science, CS, you name it. To the point where no one notices or comments when I sit and type papers in a cluster on an ultrasparc. Hehe.
:) and it runs nicely on a 486/33 (my little brother's computer) and I've _never_ in my life needed a bit of functionality that wasn't in there.
:)
I prefer LyX or LaTeX. I _tell_ it what I'm doing and it formats it. No thought involved. Just type
Excel is pretty good (I like it anyhow, and I've had to do some decently hefty data analysis w/it). But according to Ian the GNOME Games Maintainer "gnumeric does everything and is excel compatible. The only thing it can't hack yet are charts." The solution? Keep a windoze box around for the occasional chart.
Actually, that's a feature I miss. I have wp8 personal (tho I never use it) and it has the charts stripped out. I generally have to use chart stuff in WP6.1, which is the last word processor I paid for. Sure it's for windoze, and it's 16bit code, but it's a great wordprocessor (I kinda prefer it to wp[7,8]
I hope the nice gnumeric people (or the nice KDE people for that matter) get us a beautiful, excel compatible chart program to link into the spreadsheet stuff soon, then we'll be complete
The Linux desktop kicks the tail off windoze any day of the week ending in y (note that linux goes on vacation {d elem days | d does not end in y} while windoze takes off {d elem days | d ends in y}) hehe too much 15-251.
That you're the minority of 1 in this.
Everybody on the frikkin _planet_ will want to see the trailer. That's why Lucas can make so bloody much money with these films. If it was only a couple of hundred dweebs, he'd be a poor man.
"You soon will be"
"I feel fine!"
"You're not fooling anyone!"
hehehe.
Seriously folks I am getting 50 kps internally here. I should be okay for a while. CMU has a better cnnection than this but I only get 10mit to the dorms....
ftp://templestowe.res.cmu.edu/pub/swtrailer/menace _480.mov
Pittsburgh, 10mbit.
I'm here in Pittsburgh :)
I got it from countingdown.com at ~500 kps (not kilobit) and am about to post a mirror.
Up at 7:10 am and the frikkin fileserver "206.251.0.167" is /.'d! It responds to pings, and there's a service listning on port 80. but I can't get _anywhere_ with it.
If someone can tell me where/how to get a copy I can mirror it 10mbit...
No, you don't get the same power you would from a single chip (even if the chips are clock per clock speed equivalent), since both must share the same already limitted memory bus. Actually you get much better benafits from multiprocessing on other architectures (eg. sparc, alpha) which have less pathetic memory access.
If you're running Linux, you should always be able to get plenty of CPU power to kill runaway processes. Now granted, you won't have 50% available to kill a single runaway process, but on the other hand you will be able to run a process at 100% CPU time. In any case, the UNIX model for processes downgrades the priority of processes that take too much CPU time, so that other much smaller processes tend to run in near-realtime. In theory you could limit any process to 50% processor power on a single-processor machine and have all the benafits you talked about w/none of the disadvantages. But you wouldn't because you might as well let processes run at full CPU potential. Note that an OS w/a more modern kernel architecture such as Be (or HURD i guess) will give you absolutely flawless user interface even when the system is massively loaded down.
In addition, a dual PII-300 will perform _much_ better than a dual P5-200. The PII is quite a bit better than the Pentium clock per clock, and you're getting many more clocks than a single pII-450 would.
Oh, and the best dual slot-I MB is the Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 -- onboard audio, fast ethernet, UW SCSI, up to 1gig RAM.
The "extra chip" does NOT "make the workstation unstoppable" it just makes it that much faster than one chip of that type at that clock speed. But looking at the same chip, with the same total CPU Hz available, a single chip machine will be faster for a particular process and have greater aggregate CPU power.
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/.'ers who were in 129 and are in 251 with me will agree :).
... unless it's during _our_ spring break (last week of march) in which case you should come back when we're in session. And we have interesting speakers just about every day of the week if you're interested.
15-212 in Java is history. ML only. And we code in C++ freshman year, unlike the poor bastards at MIT in Scheme (a LISP for those not familiar). My friend at MIT ported his raytracer to Scheme to win the freshman programming contest.
Very little I've seen yet matches the rigor of the freshman courses 15-129 and 15-251 (as I'm sure all the
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Alan won't agree with us 'cos he's a Brit and over here in the USA we're all cowboy-radicals as far as he's concerned, but the GNU movement is very heavily Libertarian.
:) software -- as Linux and *BSD show, it's better. Period. And that's market forces at work. If IBM, Compaq, et al. feel they can make money off this, fine. As Alan says, any "freedom deducted" product they sell can be redone Free.
ESR describes himself as a "gonzo libertarian." What does this mean? That the FSF group as a whole thinks that leaving software in the hands of big, proprietary business is as bad as leaving it in the hands of goverment. It's pretty clear MS has enough power to screw over anyone who uses or resells their software.
Being a Libertarian does _not_ mean being against capitalism. Libertarians are usually the most free-market minded people around. Not that commercial software should be illegal -- rather that you are sacraficing your freedom when you put the control of your computers into the hands of someone else, be it a corporation or the government. It's in your own interest to use Free (freedom, not beer
You're right tho. It's software, not religion. It means _nothing_ if we spend our time having religious flamewars and never _write_ the free software. RMS will use free software on the principle, but businesses who rely on their software won't use the Free stuff till its better -- capitalism again.
Oh, and once a business is comitted to Free software (which it can never make unFree if it's GPL) that business has a simple vested interest in improving the software -- it's good for the bottom line to employ people like Don Becker, Alan and Linus.
I don't see at all how it's controlled by those "making money from it". Anyone who wants can modify the Linux kernel or GNU OS. Even if you don't get your changes accepted by Linus, you're welcome to them as long as you abide by GPL. If a company needs functionality, it can add it, but control remains Free. No one can screw the user over. And that's the point.