Dang it, I hit submit too quickly. Dang first post instincts.
Another thing: this is a really good reason to host only open source/open content data. And host as much of it as possible. Mirror Debian, GNU, FreeBSD, etc, just so it takes their spiders that much longer to go through all 9 TERABYTES of your server. Then maybe add a filter to IPtables and traffic shaper to allow only one connection from them at a time, with a top connection speed of 10 bytes / sec.
. . . as to how this will have the same exact problems as the new face recognition software? And along those same lines, how long do you think it will be before people start "faking" files with the same signatures just to piss them off? I know it's hard to do, but it can be done.
One thing that I'm fairly sure will happen is that most of the "smart" pirates will just block access from these people's clients and servers. If they don't appear to be even running a web server, how can they be distributing illegal copyrighted content on the web?
Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. The sooner people accept this, and build business models that take this into account, the sooner people will start making money again.
-- Bruce Schneier
This is probably going to come as a shock to some of you, but there are girls out there who run linux [gentoo.org] and like mozilla.
Really? Where are they? Oh, wait I forgot, I'm not dating anymore . ..
Seriously, I'm glad to hear this. And not for me personally. Any system that is homogeneous (or close to homogeneity) is in serious danger of dying. Genetically engineered food that is all the same will cause a food shortage when the right virus comes around. Software that is not tested and used by a representative sampling of the user base will fail to meet users' needs. Since open source software is for everyone, this means we need women testing, using, and (hopefully) programming it as well as men.
JWZ resigned in a very public manner from the Mozilla project and now the official release party is at the DNALounge, the club that JWZ started? Irony abounds..
Did it ever occurr to you that maybe Jamie doesn't harbor any ill-will towards the makers of Mozilla? That maybe he just resigned because he wanted a change and was sick of coding 24/7 on a project that (to him) appeared to be going nowhere? I mean, for crying out loud, the world isn't all black and white, friends and foes (slashdot user system to the contrary . ..).
However, if you and Napster both used your respective devices, you'd kick yourself up to a charge of murder one and Napster would kick themselves from common carrier into somewhat participant.
But, what if some users of Napster only traded files that are freely available. Let's say a couple of college student Linux junkies competed to see who had the latest version of the kernel first (don't laugh, me and my friends used to do this). What if the way they proved they had the kernel first was by sharing it on Napster?
What if made that hammer to kill you, but then someone else used it to build a house for the homeless? Surely you're not going to say they should go to prison for using an implement designed to kill someone if they didn't kill someone with it.
Eminem is not the problem. He is merely a messenger
Messenger? Hah! Eminem is just a spoiled, overrated brat. He's not a cause, he's one of the symptoms. If you want to hear some really accurate social commentary, listen very closely to the lyrics from songs by The Offspring sometime.
With Napster, they created a service that was intended, from day 1, for heavy trafficking in copyrighted material.
So? If I create a hammer with the intent, from day 1, of using it to kill you, does that make that hammer illegal? Of course not! This is the thing that people need to get over: tools do not have intent, they are inanimate objects.
The ultimate game controller for me has always been a keyboard. Admittedly, I haven't bought a joystick in a long time, but the same argument could be made for controllers on a desktop computer. Joystick? Why buy that when it will only let you control a few programs? BTW, I know of joystick drivers for controlling other things, ie XMMS; I'm just making a point that a joystick doesn't work with every piece of software on a computer.
And yes, I used to play Mechwarrior 2 and Descent keyboard only; adding a mouse sometimes helped, sometimes not. With the mouse it's the same argument: it works with most every piece of software while a joystick/special controller doesn't.
Then again, I used to be very big on the fact that a computer (equipped properly) could whoop the ass of any console system in terms of performance. That and you can do a lot more with a computer. But then, you didn't always have the selection, quality, cheapness, or ease of use of console games.
Maybe because it appears in practically every story on slashdot???
*sigh* I know I should probably just ignore the Anonymous cowards and write them off as luserish, but the truth is that I've had this same complaint against other memes that pop up on slashdot quite a bit. So let's take a look at this "practically every story", shall we?
A search in comments (at threshold -1) for "chewbacca" returns 47 hits (and not all of those are "chewbacca defense" posts).
A search in comments (at threshold -1) for "wookie" returns 22 hits, none of which are "chewbacca defense" posts.
So, going with a rough estimate, there are probably at least a million comments posted to slashdot by now.
47 / 1 million = really really small
I don't know what your definition of "practically every story on slashdot" is, but 47 out of 1 million is certainly not mine.
Some advice: do what I do and stop whining, suck it up and just ignore posts that are annoying to you, even if they do get repeated a lot. If you get mod points, well great, you might actually "help" others not have to see this drivel.
Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, Microsoft would certainly want you to believe my client is wrong in suing them, and they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself. But Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk who carried a gun and ran from the mob. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense. Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks. That does not make sense.
But more important, you have to ask yourself what does this have to do with this case. Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case. It does not make sense. Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a poor, victimized woman and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and Gentlemen I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.
And so you have to remember when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No. Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must award my client lots of money.
I know it seems wrong. But ladies and gentlemen this is Chewbacca. Now think about that for one minute. That does not make sense. Why am I talking about Chewbacca when a woman's dignity is on the line? Why? I'll tell you why. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. If Chewbacca does not make sense you must find in our favor. Here look at the monkey , look at the silly monkey.
. . . if we get lucky they'll shoot themselves in the foot and piss off the artists and labels too.
They already have. Well, at least the artists have a valid gripe against them. As far as I'm concerned, the labels are the RIAA. It should really read "Recording Industry Middlemen of America".
I think its because most people here are programmers, and think that because video games involve programming, they are inherently worth more.
No, it's because the majority of people who post here are spoiled, greedy, lazy, incompetent losers who think that everything in life ought to be free. If you had been listening to the real free speech/free software advocates, you would realize that:
They are espousing the idea that all information wants to be free (this includes software).
They are mostly upset that the majority of the money that is paid for music goes to greedy middle men who add nothing of real value.
The same point could be stretched (a bit) to be applied to software.
They still think that the artist and the programmer should get some compensation for creating music or a program, respectively.
I'm not for or against MS, I'm just calling it as I see it.
If that's not a dead giveaway that this is a pro-Microsoft post, I don't know what is. See, this troll is smart, though, because he doesn't say "but I'm impartial!" till the end.
. . . when it's functionality stretches . . .
That should read if it's functionality stretches. Microsoft is already losing money on this baby; do you really think they're going to dump more hardware into it just so they can lose more money? Also, any product that tries to compete with the already established market leaders on features will lose. Didn't you get that memo? One last thing is that I think I'll trust a trulyunbiased source with years of experience in the industry before I trust what is obviously an end user in this market.
Looks like it's time to switch to GNU Privacy Guard if you haven't already. Does anyone know if it will be immune to this attack?
And for those that haven't found it yet, enigmail should allow you to use GNU Privacy Guard with Mozilla, even under Windows. Haven't tried it myself yet.
Rumor has it that John was employed by Apple and that as part of the employment contract he's no longer allowed to develop sawfish.
When are people going to learn that Apple is just as bad as Microsoft? I can hear all the Apple zealots out there now, getting ready to hit the reply button and refute my "madness". Don't bother. I've heard it all before. I AM a Mac admin. I wouldn't be surprised at all that Apple is quashing efforts that are trying to compete with their market. I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't done something similar, considering all the cash they have in the bank.
Oh, and this might be something to think about the next time someone says that macs have the best or most intuitive GUI around: even Apple knew that there existed something better and it had to be stopped quick.
I patched this hole on all my boxes a long time ago. It's really easy too. I have to warn you, though, the patch is really quite large. About a CD's worth. There are also different versions depending on what your needs are. Go here to download the fix now. Have fun, and happy computing!
So, the new rule is: nothing on Slashdot is funny. Gotcha.
That's not what I said. Then again, maybe I should have phrased it this way: some things are only funny the first couple of times. After that, it gets real annoying real quick. Mayhap you would be happy if I told you you aren't funny because you are unoriginal?
You know, I find this statement rather ironic, since I've pointed out this very fact to others. I don't consider/. as a whole hypocritical, just annoying.
Yes, the original point was to the original poster. I knew you recognized the ridiculousness of calling a group of the most diverse individuals on this planet hypocrites for not all being the same. I also find slashdot as a whole annoying, but I believe that's mainly because the most vocal (ie the ones who comment) are the most rabid about their opinions, and therefore are annoying. I guess since I am a poster, I qualify in that group too. As for why I keep coming back even though it is annoying, well it's better than most other sh*t out there.
You, Sir or Madam, need to lighten up.
Perhaps. It is something I've been working on. However, might I make a suggestion that you should try being more original, as I said originally?
There have been a lot of posts lately like this, which generally say, "Oh! I didn't know/. was supposed to like the MPAA today." Here's a handy little guide for future reference.
There have been a lot of posts lately like this, which generally make fun of both the original poster pointing out the hypocrisy and the hypocrisy itself. They are no longer funny.
Oh, and I've got other news for you. Slashdot is made up of MORE THAN ONE PERSON. That means , that unless they are special brainwashed clones, they will have different opinions. Hypocrisy is a quality of an individual, therefore calling slashdot hypocritical is a falsehood by definition.
Simple question. Why? America has done more than any other to usher in the era of glabal markets and global business.
This is something that really annoys me. People (Americans included) seem to have this attitude that all Americans are the same. I've seen this same attitude from posters who call slashdot hypocritical, even when two opposing stories that are posted are clearly posted by different people.
Now, don't get me wrong. I think that "globalism" in the sense of an open, competitive global market is a good thing. And I'd be the last person to deny anyone the right to do a job as long as they can do it. If they can do it better, they should get it, no matter where they are from.
However, this is not the way things work in America. Companies in America only look at the bottom line. Do you really think that they are hiring off shore because of better quality workers? No, they are doing it plain and simply to cut costs and get slave labor.
Now, what I'd like to see is that ALL jobs were open to this form of global competition. Including managment, CEOs, etc. Like another poster said, you can get CEOs from Europe for $300k-$400k. Think of the money THAT would save a company.
come on, wake up. Science fiction, at least in it's cinematic form, has nothing at all to do with science. Never has, in all likelyhood, never will.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. I haven't watched TV for a long time (don't have TV anymore) and don't go to very many movies any more either. I have found decent enough sci-fi in good authors, and I suppose now that my worst fears have been confirmed, I will continue to do so.
I'm surprised no one's thought of this yet, especially with the reference's to Mace Windu and "mine's the lightsaber that says 'bad motherfucker' on it". Hope you like it:)
Choose the force. Choose a lightsaber. Choose a career as a Jedi. Choose no family. Choose a fucking big space cruiser. Choose washing droids, speeders, death star plans and blasters..... Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting in that cantina watching mind numbing, spirit crushing cantina bands, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last on miserable Tattoine, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked-up Anakin you trained to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose to defend the Republic..... But why would I want to do a thing like that?
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Dang it, I hit submit too quickly. Dang first post instincts.
Another thing: this is a really good reason to host only open source/open content data. And host as much of it as possible. Mirror Debian, GNU, FreeBSD, etc, just so it takes their spiders that much longer to go through all 9 TERABYTES of your server. Then maybe add a filter to IPtables and traffic shaper to allow only one connection from them at a time, with a top connection speed of 10 bytes / sec.
. . . as to how this will have the same exact problems as the new face recognition software? And along those same lines, how long do you think it will be before people start "faking" files with the same signatures just to piss them off? I know it's hard to do, but it can be done.
One thing that I'm fairly sure will happen is that most of the "smart" pirates will just block access from these people's clients and servers. If they don't appear to be even running a web server, how can they be distributing illegal copyrighted content on the web?
My son's a young girl? Damn, it's so hard to keep up with kids these days. Oh, wait, I don't have any kids . .
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist
Really? Where are they? Oh, wait I forgot, I'm not dating anymore . .
Seriously, I'm glad to hear this. And not for me personally. Any system that is homogeneous (or close to homogeneity) is in serious danger of dying. Genetically engineered food that is all the same will cause a food shortage when the right virus comes around. Software that is not tested and used by a representative sampling of the user base will fail to meet users' needs. Since open source software is for everyone, this means we need women testing, using, and (hopefully) programming it as well as men.
Did it ever occurr to you that maybe Jamie doesn't harbor any ill-will towards the makers of Mozilla? That maybe he just resigned because he wanted a change and was sick of coding 24/7 on a project that (to him) appeared to be going nowhere? I mean, for crying out loud, the world isn't all black and white, friends and foes (slashdot user system to the contrary . .
But, what if some users of Napster only traded files that are freely available. Let's say a couple of college student Linux junkies competed to see who had the latest version of the kernel first (don't laugh, me and my friends used to do this). What if the way they proved they had the kernel first was by sharing it on Napster?
What if made that hammer to kill you, but then someone else used it to build a house for the homeless? Surely you're not going to say they should go to prison for using an implement designed to kill someone if they didn't kill someone with it.
Messenger? Hah! Eminem is just a spoiled, overrated brat. He's not a cause, he's one of the symptoms. If you want to hear some really accurate social commentary, listen very closely to the lyrics from songs by The Offspring sometime.
So? If I create a hammer with the intent, from day 1, of using it to kill you, does that make that hammer illegal? Of course not! This is the thing that people need to get over: tools do not have intent, they are inanimate objects.
Not always. Besides, this case was held in Germany.
And yes, I used to play Mechwarrior 2 and Descent keyboard only; adding a mouse sometimes helped, sometimes not. With the mouse it's the same argument: it works with most every piece of software while a joystick/special controller doesn't.
Then again, I used to be very big on the fact that a computer (equipped properly) could whoop the ass of any console system in terms of performance. That and you can do a lot more with a computer. But then, you didn't always have the selection, quality, cheapness, or ease of use of console games.
*sigh* I know I should probably just ignore the Anonymous cowards and write them off as luserish, but the truth is that I've had this same complaint against other memes that pop up on slashdot quite a bit. So let's take a look at this "practically every story", shall we?
A search in comments (at threshold -1) for "chewbacca" returns 47 hits (and not all of those are "chewbacca defense" posts).
A search in comments (at threshold -1) for "wookie" returns 22 hits, none of which are "chewbacca defense" posts.
So, going with a rough estimate, there are probably at least a million comments posted to slashdot by now.
I don't know what your definition of "practically every story on slashdot" is, but 47 out of 1 million is certainly not mine.
Some advice: do what I do and stop whining, suck it up and just ignore posts that are annoying to you, even if they do get repeated a lot. If you get mod points, well great, you might actually "help" others not have to see this drivel.
Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, Microsoft would certainly want you to believe my client is wrong in suing them, and they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself. But Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk who carried a gun and ran from the mob. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense. Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks. That does not make sense.
But more important, you have to ask yourself what does this have to do with this case. Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case. It does not make sense. Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a poor, victimized woman and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and Gentlemen I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.
And so you have to remember when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No. Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must award my client lots of money.
I know it seems wrong. But ladies and gentlemen this is Chewbacca. Now think about that for one minute. That does not make sense. Why am I talking about Chewbacca when a woman's dignity is on the line? Why? I'll tell you why. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. If Chewbacca does not make sense you must find in our favor. Here look at the monkey , look at the silly monkey.
The defense rests.
They already have. Well, at least the artists have a valid gripe against them. As far as I'm concerned, the labels are the RIAA. It should really read "Recording Industry Middlemen of America".
No, it's because the majority of people who post here are spoiled, greedy, lazy, incompetent losers who think that everything in life ought to be free. If you had been listening to the real free speech/free software advocates, you would realize that:
If that's not a dead giveaway that this is a pro-Microsoft post, I don't know what is. See, this troll is smart, though, because he doesn't say "but I'm impartial!" till the end.
. . . when it's functionality stretches . . .
That should read if it's functionality stretches. Microsoft is already losing money on this baby; do you really think they're going to dump more hardware into it just so they can lose more money? Also, any product that tries to compete with the already established market leaders on features will lose. Didn't you get that memo? One last thing is that I think I'll trust a truly unbiased source with years of experience in the industry before I trust what is obviously an end user in this market.
And for those that haven't found it yet, enigmail should allow you to use GNU Privacy Guard with Mozilla, even under Windows. Haven't tried it myself yet.
When are people going to learn that Apple is just as bad as Microsoft? I can hear all the Apple zealots out there now, getting ready to hit the reply button and refute my "madness". Don't bother. I've heard it all before. I AM a Mac admin. I wouldn't be surprised at all that Apple is quashing efforts that are trying to compete with their market. I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't done something similar, considering all the cash they have in the bank.
Oh, and this might be something to think about the next time someone says that macs have the best or most intuitive GUI around: even Apple knew that there existed something better and it had to be stopped quick.
Odd, isn't that what many people said about sawfish when it first came out and they were comparing it to Enlightenment?
I patched this hole on all my boxes a long time ago. It's really easy too. I have to warn you, though, the patch is really quite large. About a CD's worth. There are also different versions depending on what your needs are. Go here to download the fix now. Have fun, and happy computing!
That's not what I said. Then again, maybe I should have phrased it this way: some things are only funny the first couple of times. After that, it gets real annoying real quick. Mayhap you would be happy if I told you you aren't funny because you are unoriginal?
You know, I find this statement rather ironic, since I've pointed out this very fact to others. I don't consider
Yes, the original point was to the original poster. I knew you recognized the ridiculousness of calling a group of the most diverse individuals on this planet hypocrites for not all being the same. I also find slashdot as a whole annoying, but I believe that's mainly because the most vocal (ie the ones who comment) are the most rabid about their opinions, and therefore are annoying. I guess since I am a poster, I qualify in that group too. As for why I keep coming back even though it is annoying, well it's better than most other sh*t out there.
You, Sir or Madam, need to lighten up.
Perhaps. It is something I've been working on. However, might I make a suggestion that you should try being more original, as I said originally?
There have been a lot of posts lately like this, which generally make fun of both the original poster pointing out the hypocrisy and the hypocrisy itself. They are no longer funny.
Oh, and I've got other news for you. Slashdot is made up of MORE THAN ONE PERSON. That means , that unless they are special brainwashed clones, they will have different opinions. Hypocrisy is a quality of an individual, therefore calling slashdot hypocritical is a falsehood by definition.
This is something that really annoys me. People (Americans included) seem to have this attitude that all Americans are the same. I've seen this same attitude from posters who call slashdot hypocritical, even when two opposing stories that are posted are clearly posted by different people.
Now, don't get me wrong. I think that "globalism" in the sense of an open, competitive global market is a good thing. And I'd be the last person to deny anyone the right to do a job as long as they can do it. If they can do it better, they should get it, no matter where they are from.
However, this is not the way things work in America. Companies in America only look at the bottom line. Do you really think that they are hiring off shore because of better quality workers? No, they are doing it plain and simply to cut costs and get slave labor.
Now, what I'd like to see is that ALL jobs were open to this form of global competition. Including managment, CEOs, etc. Like another poster said, you can get CEOs from Europe for $300k-$400k. Think of the money THAT would save a company.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. I haven't watched TV for a long time (don't have TV anymore) and don't go to very many movies any more either. I have found decent enough sci-fi in good authors, and I suppose now that my worst fears have been confirmed, I will continue to do so.
Choose the force. Choose a lightsaber. Choose a career as a Jedi. Choose no family. Choose a fucking big space cruiser. Choose washing droids, speeders, death star plans and blasters